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NEW CDMA/LTE Radios Leacked

I don't if it has been posted or not but there it is the new radios that got leaked today for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. I hope it fixes my 4G issue
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So far for me it isn't any better (though I've only had it flashed for about 15 minutes). Signal level is still -120 and it is going in and out of 4g. My thunderbolt never dropped from 4g in this same spot.

skaforey said:
So far for me it isn't any better (though I've only had it flashed for about 15 minutes). Signal level is still -120 and it is going in and out of 4g. My thunderbolt never dropped from 4g in this same spot.
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chances are that your thunderbolt was lying to you
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue

godsfilth said:
chances are that your thunderbolt was lying to you
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue
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This is bull. Regardless of how the signal is displayed on the phone, the Nexus is not lying when it drops down to 3G in a 4G zone. That is the issue. Not how many "bars" are showing. No one gives a **** about bars. They do however, give lots of ****s about the G's.

LexusBrian400 said:
This is bull. Regardless of how the signal is displayed on the phone, the Nexus is not lying when it drops down to 3G in a 4G zone. That is the issue. Not how many "bars" are showing. No one gives a **** about bars. They do however, give lots of ****s about the G's.
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Well there could be some truth to it. The placebo effect aka iPhone
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer

Already posted
New Leaked Radios CDMA, LTE & Bootloader

LexusBrian400 said:
This is bull. Regardless of how the signal is displayed on the phone, the Nexus is not lying when it drops down to 3G in a 4G zone. That is the issue. Not how many "bars" are showing. No one gives a **** about bars. They do however, give lots of ****s about the G's.
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The Truth.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
I don't if it has been posted or not but there it is the new radios that got leaked today for the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. I hope it fixes my 4G issue
New Radios
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This post does not belong in the development forum. And beyond that, it's a crappy dupe of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403133

New Radios most certainly DO belong in the development section. It can be argued that nothing is more important. Without new/updated radios.. do you know what you'd have? Junk.
Thanks for the post OP. Appreciate you making me aware of this.

I'm glad it's here. I wouldn't have seen this otherwise.
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perdurabo2 said:
This post does not belong in the development forum. And beyond that, it's a crappy dupe of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403133
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We don't need forum police. This does belong here. We should spend more time working together and less time policing each other.
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Worth dumping LTE for this?

I've been wanting the Galaxy Nexus since the announcement but never got around to getting it. I ended up getting a GS2 Skyrocket and have fallen in love with LTE.
Do you think it's worth dumping my skyrocket for the GN? What's the current state of ROM development?

I dumped the skyrocket but I don't live in lte market. And I don't load roms. Stock gnex ics > skyrocket touchwiz
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This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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navymoss35 said:
This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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Coming out in a few months
I kind of miss the stock Google experience.. once a new version of Android is announced, you're the first to get it Kinda wish the GN is $529 like the N1 was

No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.

Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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LTE has a huge battery drain.
GSM variant of Galaxy Nexus has better battery life and less mAh

Lots of good roms. switch to verizon and get lte too. To be honest if verizon had a GSII I would think twice about my purchase. I love ICS but the camera on this phone drives me nuts. Plus I don't hate Touch Wiz.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).

havent experienced the sg2 myself so i doont know how good it is, but i got the nexus last saturday and i love it more and more everyday. AWESOME PHONE!

zephiK said:
LTE has a huge battery drain.
GSM variant of Galaxy Nexus has better battery life and less mAh
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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
martonikaj said:
For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).
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OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.

If budget permits, I would say yes, go for the GN. But if I were you at a time like this, I would wait for MWC (Mobile World Congress) where Samsung is allegedly announcing the Galaxy S3 and see what they have to offer in that aspect.

I'm pretty much stuck to AT&T because I get a huge discount off my monthly bill through work
I totally forgot about the Galaxy S3.. hummm

Buff McBigstuff said:
Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps.
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Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Willieumm said:
Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Ummmm... Mobile Hot Spot! Verizon has yet to throttle me on 4G... I use atleast 12-15 GB's / month. That is where it pays off to have Verizon LTE and unlimited data...

Lol again, Verizon is not an option for me. I pay close to $100 a month right now for 4 lines + unlimited data on 3 lines. With Verizon, I'd be paying over $200

Honestly HSPA+ speed are good enough for me in a mobile device. I browse, stream a lot and speeds are good enough. Average around 5Mbps is good for me. Sure I will take lte if there is an option, but it's not a big deal. Finally it comes down personal choice, if you are teethering may be lte speeds are good but for normal usage no big deal.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.
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Fair enough, but the only ones I've seen complaining about their Galaxy Nexus are the ones getting the US carrier-Nexuses. On overall GSM owners seems happier.
Which may or may not be relevant to OP, so it's worth getting out there.
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To OP: I don't have LTE, so I have no idea what I would be dumping, but this is my general take on the Galaxy Nexus (from another thread)
Seriously though: I think this phone is the best phone I've ever had. For those returning it, it probably wasn't.
This phone was hyped like nothing I have ever seen, and lots of people probably bought it on the wrong premises. Some people probably bought this phone thinking this would be the Android Jesus-device who would save the souls of Apple-users en-masse by its presence alone. A device which could slay iStore employees by simply taking it out of your pocket. A gadget so shiny, the sun would feel its competition. Etc.
To those people, this device probably didn't deliver. They probably returned it.
To me though this phone is a godsend. Not only is the HW pretty good, it is also 100% open. It's a device whose openness is unprecedented in other types of phones.
I can compile Android from source and flash on this device. Using open tools which I've also built from source. It's not just something I say that you "can" do. I've built the source and deployed on my phone. No hacking or closed drivers or protocols required. Why? Just because I can. It gives you a feeling of actual ownership which is hard to describe or match.
If I want to run nothing but stock but rooted, I can do that without any need to meddle deeply with the phone. In fact, if all I want is a custom recovery to do nandroid backups, I can do that without flashing or modifying the phone in any way.
How? It's easy. I can boot my phone off a boot-image (and hence recovery-image too) hosted outside the phone. I can boot my phone from code hosted outside it. No hacking required. Absolutely none.
This is what a Nexus device is all about. It's all fully open. It does what you ask it. Even if it is retarded. Even if it is singing the Hello Kitty theme song while in the bootloader. Because the device is open. It's yours. It's yours to do exactly what you want with it.
The openness of this thing is amazing. For me, there is absolutely no other phone I would consider. Others might land at some other choice and that is perfectly fine too.
People returning this phone are probably doing it because they followed internet-hype and didn't research what they were actually buying.
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If you think that sounds awesome, LTE is probably worth dumping. If you think "that sounds... like something I dont care about at all", then probably not.

Had the Verizon GN. Was surprised to find that I actually had 4g where I lived. Got ~35mbps down and ~7mbps up. With mild use, was finding it difficult to get the battery to last through the day.
Returned it, bought the unlocked GSM version, popped an at&t similar in, and now my battery lasts all day with almost twice as much use and 30% left at night. Pages load at roughly the same speed. Call quality is better (maybe just where I live, but the Verizon version was always a little "glitchy").
Just my experience with LTE and the nexus.
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I have both phones and love both, skyrocket gives me 2 days in one charge easily, gnex only about 10-14 hours with extended battery but love stock ics.
If you already have the skyrocket then stick with it, its a great phone, if you dont have neither, get the Gnex gsm.

For now, LTE is the future. I carry a spare battery if and when needed. Battery technology will always be playing catch up.

Is Sprint Nexus as bad as Verizon's?

I have the Verizon Nexus and have had tons of problems with data drops, the in-call audio bug, screen issues and a few other random problems. My mom is with Sprint and was wanting to get one for herself, but before she goes and buys one I wanted to ask around and see if these problems are as rampant on the Sprint Nexus.

I don't have any of those issues on my Verizon Nexus.

Nope but then again it was rooted as soon as it hit my doorstep
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adrynalyne said:
I don't have any of those issues on my Verizon Nexus.
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I get the data drop but besides that I'm diggin my LTE Gnex OP

They are the same phone. Sprint's nexus does not get LTE because there is really not much LTE.
But of course it will if you are in an LTE area.
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Sup Adrynalyne, I unfortunately have had terrible luck with the nexus, but you know I like to follow you around from phone to phone so I guess I'm stuck til you get something new, gotta have my bamf. But really though, I do love the device, which is why I have stuck with it, but since launch day I've had nothing but issues, and I'm definitely not the only one. I've had several replacements, 2 new SIM cards, nothing seems to help. This last replacement seems to handle calls better, but constantly drops data and signal, and the screen looks terrible, but I'm just tired of them sending me replacements so I'm dealing with it.
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earthtodigi said:
Sup Adrynalyne, I unfortunately have had terrible luck with the nexus, but you know I like to follow you around from phone to phone so I guess I'm stuck til you get something new, gotta have my bamf. But really though, I do love the device, which is why I have stuck with it, but since launch day I've had nothing but issues, and I'm definitely not the only one. I've had several replacements, 2 new SIM cards, nothing seems to help. This last replacement seems to handle calls better, but constantly drops data and signal, and the screen looks terrible, but I'm just tired of them sending me replacements so I'm dealing with it.
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Well, whatever you decide, we have Sprint covered too for BAMF on the Nexus. I may get a GS3 on Verizon and work on bringing BAMF to that, but I don't want to commit and say that is a definite yet.
I understand the frustrations too. My wife's gnex has the crappiest screen ever.

Well, since this will be for my mom, she has an evo shift right now, so I think I'm gonna get her an evo LTE.
As for myself, I've been trying to decide what's next. Verizon has already offered to let me change to a different phone. My wife has the Rezound and she loves it, and I myself have always preferred HTC so I've considered taking one of those, even though it may be considered a step backwards, but the part of me that lives for the bleeding edge is wanting to see if they will go so far as to switch me to a GS3. Without a doubt though, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on you and ihtfp69 because I've always loved the work you guys do.
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ÜBER™ said:
Nope but then again it was rooted as soon as it hit my doorstep
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LOL me too. :highfive:

Myth or Reality: GNex Problems

Ok, so the ongoing "on my third replacement" discussions baffle me. Personal experience is nothing but good - bought VZW GNex at launch, upgraded wife's Fascinate a few months ago to a GNex (only 1 sort of valid issue, but not worth a return), and still loving the device. [Side note - not loving Verizon's delay in rolling out JB]
Popular issues that makes folks say this phone is crap:
1. My signal is weak. Welll...check your local network, and try a signal in the open air. Problems inside your home or at work? It's called a building folks, and those wall thingies? Yeah, they tend to block radiowaves with all of that electric, water pipes, and insulation running through them. I had both Nexi side by side recently in the open air, and indeed hardware version 10 had a 6dB worse signal...until I set down my version 9 GNex, and moving the v.10 device 1 inch to the right suddenly shot the signal to a BETTER dB reading than the v.09. AIRWAVES - they move, and phones sitting side by side may have a different dB value simply because of AIRWAVES.
2. I can't hold a 4G signal. Check the threads and the Google issue trackers - it's regional, which implies that it's Verizon's issue, not the phone's.
3. Phone randomly reboots. Valid issue, but software related that was corrected with 4.0.4.
4. Screen has a purple tint. Somewhat valid (only complaint about wife's GNex), however appears software driven as increasing brightness to maximum cures the issue.
5. "I'm suddenly having [name the issue] problems. Oh by the way, I just flashed a custom ROM, didn't follow any directions on the XDA threads, and really didn't know what the heck I was doing." That's not a phone problem, that's a YOU problem.
5 examples, none actually related to bad hardware. The GNex is the best device I've ever owned and is a reliable performer. What many should do is lower their expectations - the Nexus is not the "perfect solution", but a Google Experience Device that gives the user the experience that Google intended without a bunch of manufacturer skins and carrier bloat ware. For those 2 reasons, the Galaxy Nexus is spectacular.
Discuss.
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Aside from crappy screen (grainy and hosting issue) I have no problems with my GSM Nexus. I already got used to this screen though.....Best phone I have used so far, but I haven't played with SG3 yet

Bravo... *slowly claps*
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Wow, weak signal and bad 4G radio solved all by you in this thread.
Sorry, this thread ='s FAIL!
My 3rd replacement GNEX with a fully working radio just told me so........I will take his word over yours.

[email protected] said:
Wow, weak signal and bad 4G radio solved all by you in this thread.
Sorry, this thread ='s FAIL!
My 3rd replacement GNEX with a fully working radio just told me so........I will take his word over yours.
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Your phone talks to you... you sir have problems
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Google talks to me now. I mean Google Now talks to me.
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Phones are massed produced. There are bound to be some bad eggs. No device is 100% perfect. I get the frustration as its a pricey piece of equipment, but this is the harsh reality of things. I've had this phone for a week and I absolutely love it. Hell, my Nexus S was a bad egg and I'm glad I'm not using it anymore. And I have also noticed a lot of these network issues only seem to crop up with the CDMA versions.

#4 seems to be the fault of amoled screens. Had it on the 1st gen sgs at low brightness levels too.
good day.

I have not experienced any of those issues with my Verizon nexus. Although I'm rooted and am not running stock.
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chopper the dog said:
#4 seems to be the fault of amoled screens. Had it on the 1st gen sgs at low brightness levels too.
good day.
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? Never saw it nor do i see it now on my epic 4G. But yeah they have actually eliminated it in the new one in the gs3. We just happen to get poor quality control by Samsung..
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Winesnob said:
2. I can't hold a 4G signal. Check the threads and the Google issue trackers - it's regional, which implies that it's Verizon's issue, not the phone's..
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I've narrowed my 4g signal issues to a specific city in my area that has problems with all the carriers but T-Mobile funny enough
Also never had any of the other issues with my GNex
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If you're having phone issues i feel bad for you son
i got 99 problems but my Gnex aint one.

Besides my provided terrible reception at my home my nexus is almost perfect, only complaint is it creaks around the camera area(back panel don't appear to be completely secure).
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Only problem I've had is a couple weeks after purchase it wouldn't take a charge, icon and everything would show up bit no power. Sent it off and it came back works great they had to replace the microusb port according to the work order. Others have had this problem also. Crap happens and it was fixed promptly under warranty so I'm satisfied.
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ÜBER™ said:
Your phone talks to you... you sir have problems
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Um, yeah my phone talks to me. If it didn't I would have to send it back for another warranty exchange!!!
Anyway, it is when my scrambled eggs start talking to me I have a problem. The other day they yelled at me for adding to much pepper on them. The waitress agreed with the eggs. I told her she should seek professional help if she though it was normal for my eggs to talk to me. :silly:

S3 Service

Thinking of getting rid of my S2 and getting S3 wanted to find out how is the 3G service on S3 in the NY/NJ area . S2 I get Wimax which is ok . I had gps issues with my S2 but got solved after Sprint replaced it .
Any issues with S3 I need to be aware off.

smartguy10 said:
Thinking of getting rid of my S2 and getting S3 wanted to find out how is the 3G service on S3 in the NY/NJ area . S2 I get Wimax which is ok . I had gps issues with my S2 but got solved after Sprint replaced it .
Any issues with S3 I need to be aware off.
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Data connectivity/signal is a very one sided thing. It's 99% tower.
Meaning... no matter what phone you have, you'll likely get the same speeds using the same protocols. With that in mind, you'll not get WiMax of course, so you won't get that speed.
But at least on the S3, you'll be on the LTE technology, which is being actively deployed all over the country, and off of the WiMax, which is no longer being implemented or improved upon, and will be decommissioned in the next couple of years.
But honestly at this point, I would just wait till May to see what they come out with.
The S3 is great and all, but you're at a turning point where if you wait just a little longer, it will be better I think.
Since you're already on the S2 and WiMax is available in your area and LTE isn't, there's no reason to move to another device really...

I cannt wait and sold my phone already . Need a new phone so either s3 or evo lte
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smartguy10 said:
I cannt wait and sold my phone already . Need a new phone so either s3 or evo lte
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I came from an Evo lte. I kinda regret switching to an s3 but don't. Only reason I switched was because of the speaker and call quality is horrible. The rest on the Evo I loved but the call quality made me switch.

So s3 has much better call quality then evo lte
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Ive owned both phones. But overall decided the gs3 because of development
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smartguy10 said:
So s3 has much better call quality then evo lte
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Idk if it was my Evo but call quality was horrible on it and speaker was no where near as the gs3. That's the reason I got the s3. Good speaker. Good call quality.

smartguy10 said:
I cannt wait and sold my phone already . Need a new phone so either s3 or evo lte
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"Thinking about selling" and "sold" are two different things, tell us what REALLY happened or is happening and you'll get a better response.
Now, as to recommendation... This is ALL personal preference... With that... From a flat out "looks" standpoint... I personally dislike the weird color design they've done with the HTC EVO 4G LTE, Samsung's much more sleek and I personally like my device to not stand out like a sore thumb. Samsung's nailed that I think.
Now, from a usability standpoint, I've not had very much time to play around with the 4G LTE, but when I did, it felt very similar to my old 3D, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I personally dislike Sense. There are a few things I like about it, but in the grand scheme I always ended up using a different launcher.
The next point is freedom... HTC locks down their device pretty heavily. So, if you're going to root/unlock it, HTC's got some safeguards in place to prevent that and also a way to track that you have unlocked it. (They are all bypassable, but just more difficult to unlock...) Samsung doesn't lock theirs down as heavily. So that's a huge plus for me as well as many others, because from day one, it's unlocked, rooted, freed from restrictions.
So, if you don't root at all... and you are also content with HTC Sense, then you can go with the 4G LTE, but I've also heard many people that have returned their 4G LTE for an S3, for other issues, such as LTE not working unless you reboot the data services...
Samsung's also a little quicker on the updates for their devices and also don't End Of Life one of their flagship devices inside of a year. (EVO 3D is a great example of that...)
Personally I would recommend the S3, but it's of course all personal preference.