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so i tested two galaxy nexus phones right next to each other running same network using speedtest.net and got much different speeds. one was averaging around 7 mbs, the other was 10 mbs. That's a big difference. how could this be? i switched the sim cards and one was still faster.
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so i tested two galaxy nexus phones right next to each other running same network using speedtest.net and got much different speeds. one was averaging around 7 mbs, the other was 10 mbs. That's a big difference. how could this be? i switched the sim cards and one was still faster.
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Never EVER run two same network phones speed tests at the same time. You are effectively splitting the carriers bandwidth coming from the tower you're connected to. It's common sense.
Do yourself a favor and run one test at a time connected to the exact same server and then compare.
This is far from scientific lol. You need to do several tests with one then the other and average all the results to get a decent comparison. Even then you could have problems. There could be hundreds of other people accessing things on the network/tower site which leaves you with less than accurate results.
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Never EVER run two same network phones speed tests at the same time. You are effectively splitting the carriers bandwidth coming from the tower you're connected to. It's common sense.
Do yourself a favor and run one test at a time connected to the exact same server and then compare.
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i did not run at same time. i ran one and then the other. i noticed that when i ran together, it got messed up. so i ran the test in sequence.
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This is far from scientific lol. You need to do several tests with one then the other and average all the results to get a decent comparison.
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i ran maybe like 12 tests. each time one phone was getting higher speeds consistently than other. it wasn't like it was less than 1 mbps apart. it was like 3 mbps apart. i'm kinda upset because the display on mine is much better. the other one seems to have a yellow tint to it, but it's twice as fast as mine most cases.
As said, you need to run several tests over several hours and several days. Then take an average.
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i ran maybe like 12 tests. each time one phone was getting higher speeds consistently than other. it wasn't like it was less than 1 mbps apart. it was like 3 mbps apart. i'm kinda upset because the display on mine is much better. the other one seems to have a yellow tint to it, but it's twice as fast as mine most cases.
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12 tests is nothing. Look at my signature and 199 tests i've done just during the first week Rezound was released. Don't be so quick to judge the phone's RF performance.
Also make sure the APNs are exactly the same on both phones, put them both in airplane mode for a few minutes then back online so they hopefully connect to the same carrier/sector. Then try again.
but the phones are in the same location at the same time. shouldn't they get same speed
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but the phones are in the same location at the same time. shouldn't they get same speed
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No.
Read the third post in this thread..
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milan03 said:
Never EVER run two same network phones speed tests at the same time. You are effectively splitting the carriers bandwidth coming from the tower you're connected to. It's common sense.
Do yourself a favor and run one test at a time connected to the exact same server and then compare.
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What are you talking about? lol
The carrier should have more than enough bandwidth to let 20 phones right next to each other get around the same speed (many more than 20, but just an example). It's ridiculous to think that the carrier isn't set up in a way that would allow that.
Using 2 phones directly next to each other will *not* negatively impact their speeds. That's completely ridiculous.
While I agree it shouldn't matter, but perhaps the tower is maxed out and only has 17mbps to give out...
Perhaps they are on two different towers. 2 different Sims.
Do the airplane mode trick and try swapping SIMs. Try doing 1 then the other repeatedly, of the course of several minutes and average.
The current test is too bland to find the culprit.
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What are you talking about? lol
The carrier should have more than enough bandwidth to let 20 phones right next to each other get around the same speed (many more than 20, but just an example). It's ridiculous to think that the carrier isn't set up in a way that would allow that.
Using 2 phones directly next to each other will *not* negatively impact their speeds. That's completely ridiculous.
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Ok, I have no idea where are you from, but here in The USofA and especially in NYC if you try speedtesting two devices in front of the same tower you'll be seeing just about half the throughput you would normally see if one device was tested alone. In NYC for instance we have 4 carriers per AT&T tower and since AT&T is still using 16QAM you'll be maxing out at 14.4mbps. If you're connected on the same carrier/band, same tower and running two hspa+ devices at the same time you're seeing 7-8mbps max. And I'm talking it's you alone, 4AM, no one else on the carrier.
No need to get all emotional over this, it's a fact.
It could honestly be something as simple as when you ran the second test (or whichever was slower) the network was under a bit more stress. It can change every second, so a difference 20 seconds later could definitely be possible. I could run 5 tests in a row here on the same device and get a difference of around 20% between them.
What player911 said. Swap the SIMs, see if it actually is a phone issue. Could be one of your SIMs is just older and doesn't have the newer/faster APN info.
Actually, before swapping SIMs, check the APN info, see if you're using the same HSPA+ servers. I know some people were complaining about slow speeds and went to the AT&T store and asked for an Atrix (or 4G) SIM card and they got their speeds up. The older SIM had the older APN data (manually changing the APN info in the phone works too).
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Ok, I have no idea where are you from, but here in The USofA and especially in NYC if you try speedtesting two devices in front of the same tower you'll be seeing just about half the throughput you would normally see if one device was tested alone. In NYC for instance we have 4 carriers per AT&T tower and since AT&T is still using 16QAM you'll be maxing out at 14.4mbps. If you're connected on the same carrier/band, same tower and running two hspa+ devices at the same time you're seeing 7-8mbps max. And I'm talking it's you alone, 4AM, no one else on the carrier.
No need to get all emotional over this, it's a fact.
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That's weird because I used to live in Manhattan and used AT&T. My ex was on the family plan with me and we both had identical devices (iPhone 3GS, at the time). I'd run at least one or 2 sets per week at the same time and get around the same results in the apartment. Running them at the same time or running them consecutively had absolutely no effect.
Now I'm back in Cleveland and the same is true.
So *maybe* you're experiencing a random slowdown and you're attributing it to the hypothesis you've created. I'm not the one getting emotional (or defensive). It's ridiculous to think that the tower would only have 14.4Mbps to distribute across *ALL* of the customers using that connection. If you think that's true you should probably do a bit more homework into cellular network technology.
For reference, I just asked my father about this (I've been on the phone with him while writing this). He's worked at AT&T for 42 years (through its various iterations) and is currently one of the heads of the cellular upgrade division (mostly installing LTE hardware and such). He suggested you get a better understanding of how symptoms link to maladies before creating hypotheses.
Ever considered the hundreds of others in the tower area who are torrenting, downloading, streaming, etc, on an off many times in seconds of time?
7-10 mbps for each GSM handset is pretty darn impressive under any conditions...
The tower you are using isn't your own personal tower, you know...
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That's weird because I used to live in Manhattan and used AT&T. My ex was on the family plan with me and we both had identical devices (iPhone 3GS, at the time). I'd run at least one or 2 sets per week at the same time and get around the same results in the apartment. Running them at the same time or running them consecutively had absolutely no effect.
Now I'm back in Cleveland and the same is true.
So *maybe* you're experiencing a random slowdown and you're attributing it to the hypothesis you've created. I'm not the one getting emotional (or defensive). It's ridiculous to think that the tower would only have 14.4Mbps to distribute across *ALL* of the customers using that connection. If you think that's true you should probably do a bit more homework into cellular network technology.
For reference, I just asked my father about this (I've been on the phone with him while writing this). He's worked at AT&T for 42 years (through its various iterations) and is currently one of the heads of the cellular upgrade division (mostly installing LTE hardware and such). He suggested you get a better understanding of how symptoms link to maladies before creating hypotheses.
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Ok here we go again...
First of all iPhone 3GS was 7.2mbps device but it only had 384kbps upload speed which was so disproportionate and was effectively throttling the user experience and anything over 4.5mbps under the real world conditions was equivalent to miracle. So you shouldn't have any problems running multiple 3GSs on the same carrier.
Secondly, NYC is not an LTE market, they still run 16QAM network, as someone said earlier (17mbps per sector video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73zZtMF95SU) their backhaul is not necessarily as hot as let's say Dallas or Houston. Why? Only AT&T knows that but NYC is probably one of their worst markets in the entire nation. So we have 4 carriers per tower, each one of them is 16QAM, which effectively caps you to 14.4mbps even on a 21mbps category 14 smartphone (video2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkeSJH5uSM) . During the business hours when millions of users get on those 4 carriers, speeds are slower than EDGE. AT&T is lacking cell density, they need to refarm more unused spectrum, or simply deploy LTE to NYC right away before San Juan or Oklahoma City for instance.
You understood me wrong, I didn't say that a tower has 14.4mbps (21mbps) to distribute to everyone, I said one carrier/band is, and in most market you have more than one carrier. We have two 850Mhz and two 1900Mhz PCS carriers in NYC.
And while you're on the phone with your dad, mind asking him why there isn't LTE already deployed in NYC, SF, or LA before other non saturated markets like Oklahoma City, Athens, etc..
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I tried swapping the sims. the speeds improved, but the other phone was still getting higher speeds. my phone was getting around 7 while the other one was 10. also, on that phone I've seen the speeds at 10 multiple times, but not once on mine.
I also went to tmobile and got a new sim card today. at same location, I have yet to see anything over 7 still. I'm pretty sure at this point its three phone.
here are the screen shots of the tests from my phone
Hey all, I just wanted to see if anyone else is having the issues that I've been having with my Epic Touch. First off... data sucks! Can barely get 4G then is disconnects, and highest download speed EVER was 4MB/sec. But that's a rare thing. 3G is spotting and always horribly slow. Next biggest issue are the calls. I get dropped calls now everyday. On average 2-3 times if I'm on the phone a lot.
This was never an issues in the past, maybe 6-9months ago. I used to give my GF crap because she always had call issues on AT&T. Now's she's on Verizon and I'm plain jealous! Great data and now lost calls.
I've used many ROMs (GB and ICS), modems, etc. Also tried stock and still horrible.
I'm thinking of trying to get out of my contract because when signed it, everything was much better. Anyone else having these issues? Any thoughts on why this is? I can only guess that this did begin to happen after Sprint got the iPhone and reported a huge increase on customers. I'm from the SF bay area and live two blocks from Google HQ. Can't be the location...
You know 4 MB/s is 32 Mbps?
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You know 4 MB/s is 32 Mbps?
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You are incorrect. 4 MB/s the same as 4 Mbps. Either way, my point is internet is slow.
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eozdalga said:
You are incorrect. 4 MB/s the same as 4 Mbps. Either way, my point is internet is slow.
For you edu:
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LMAO You are incorrect. MB/s is Megabytes per second. Mbps is Megabits per second, Mb/s is also Megabits per second.
Read your own educational material:
Megabit per second
A megabit per second (Mbit/s, Mb/s, or Mbps; not to be confused with mbit/s which means, literally, millibit per second) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:
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Megabyte per second
(not to be confused with Mbps - Mega bits per second) A megabyte per second (MB/s or MBps) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:
8 megabits per second.
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However you appear to be getting 4 Mb/s or Mbps and not 4 MB/s which would be insanely fast for WiMax.
Conversion between the two is same as bits in a byte, 8. Not forgetting to factor in they use a metric of 1000 for each unit K,M,G just like hard drive manufacturers. So my 1 Gbps server uplink is 125 MB/s.
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You know 4 MB/s is 32 Mbps?
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LMAO You are incorrect. MB/s is Megabytes per second. Mbps is Megabits per second, Mb/s is also Megabits per second.
Read your own educational material:
However you appear to be getting 4 Mb/s or Mbps and not 4 MB/s which would be insanely fast for WiMax.
Conversion between the two is same as bits in a byte, 8. Not forgetting to factor in they use a metric of 1000 for each unit K,M,G just like hard drive manufacturers. So my 1 Gbps server uplink is 125 MB/s.
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My bad! I stand corrected. I clearly didn't read far enough. Thank you.
Anyway, still does't get to my reason for this thread. The real reason for this thread is still the same.
eozdalga said:
Anyway, still does't get to my reason for this thread. The real reason for this thread is still the same.
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Yeah no ones argued that one yet . I used to get 8 to 15 Mbps on tests alot but not so much anymore.
I WISH!!!! I could only get 4Mbps. I get roughly 50~100kbps everywhere on Sprint.
I have to flash a Verizon PRL to get anything more and then I'm lucky to see a 1Mbps.
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LMAO You are incorrect. MB/s is Megabytes per second. Mbps is Megabits per second, Mb/s is also Megabits per second.
Read your own educational material:
However you appear to be getting 4 Mb/s or Mbps and not 4 MB/s which would be insanely fast for WiMax.
Conversion between the two is same as bits in a byte, 8. Not forgetting to factor in they use a metric of 1000 for each unit K,M,G just like hard drive manufacturers. So my 1 Gbps server uplink is 125 MB/s.
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1 Megabit per second is equal to 0.125 megabytes per second, which would mean that 4Mbps is 0.50 MB/s.
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1 Megabit per second is equal to 0.125 megabytes per second, which would mean that 4Mbps is 0.50 MB/s.
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That wikipedia article has some problems. It is a bit contradictory. On the one hand, it is correct by showing 1 megabit as being equal to 125 kilobytes, or 0.125 megabytes...but then it shows 8 megabits being equal to 1 megabyte.
The article admits problems, but I believe 0.125 is the correct conversion. Half a megabyte sounds about right when referring to 4mbps.
I have 18mpbs U-verse, which gives me a maximum of about 2.25mb/s down, which is correct, using .125 as the conversion.
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Sorry for all of the posts. I too am fed up with sprint. I get spotty 3g and little to no 4g as well. I mainly rely on wifi, and I have no signal in several places I go to. I actually miss AT&T.
To top it off, I called Sprint customer retention and expressed my displeasure with Sprint's service, and also asked for a dollar amount to buy out of my contract, and the service rep did not seem to care one bit whether or not I stayed with Sprint. I asked for an early upgrade for my family and I, and he refused. He also suggested I revert back to GB on my phone because of the problems ICS is causing, but then backed off of that idea when I explained to him how that would void my warranty (he thought doing a factory reset would revert the phone back to GB). Once he knew I knew what I was talking about, he wanted to wisk me off to tech support. His name was Tom, and now that I think about it, I need to do the survey I got for the call, and be sure to give him an appropriate low score for his poor customer service and lack of empathy and care.
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To top it off, I called Sprint customer retention and expressed my displeasure with Sprint's service, and also asked for a dollar amount to buy out of my contract, and the service rep did not seem to care one bit whether or not I stayed with Sprint. I asked for an early upgrade for my family and I, and he refused. He also suggested I revert back to GB on my phone because of the problems ICS is causing, but then backed off of that idea when I explained to him how that would void my warranty (he thought doing a factory reset would revert the phone back to GB). Once he knew I knew what I was talking about, he wanted to wisk me off to tech support. His name was Tom, and now that I think about it, I need to do the survey I got for the call, and be sure to give him an appropriate low score for his poor customer service and lack of empathy and care.
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Yeah that sounds like what I would expect from them at this point. I'm guess a lot of people currently have issues. A year ago, service was excellent. Really the purpose of this post was to see if anyone had actually been able to get out of their contract on the basis of decline in the quality of service. I'd be surprised though if they would let that happen.
I've been seriously contemplating moving back to T-Mobile. Sure they don't have unlimited data, but the way things stand today my Sprint service is being throttled so badly due to network congestion that I'm rarely ever hitting 2GB anymore. With T-Mobile I'd probably hit the 4GB cap, then drop to Sprint speeds, which is still a better scenario.
I keep hearing how great Network Vision will be, but they spewed the same crap with Wimax, and we all know how that's gone. I'll decide what to do once I see what the next series of Nexus devices look like. I'd love a Nexus version of a Note II.
I'm fed up with Sprint too. Once my contract is up(I think December January, which isn't that far away), I'm switching to T-Mobiles prepaid 100 minutes, unlimited texting, and unlimited data (throttled after 5GB) and I'm gonna buy the next Nexus(or the one with the largest screen size if there are more than one).
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eozdalga said:
Hey all, I just wanted to see if anyone else is having the issues that I've been having with my Epic Touch.
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They are updating a lot of their towers in the bay area so your signal might improve in a few months. You might also consider an LTE device as you should have or be right around the corner from having LTE service in your area. Here's an LTE deployment map for the South Bay: Update map
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I'm fed up with Sprint too. Once my contract is up(I think December January, which isn't that far away), I'm switching to T-Mobiles prepaid 100 minutes, unlimited texting, and unlimited data (throttled after 5GB) and I'm gonna buy the next Nexus(or the one with the largest screen size if there are more than one).
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If you're in Kansas you should have LTE active in your area. If not then it should be available there soon. I'd think about trying a Sprint LTE device before jumping ship. I've seen speed tests on Youtube and they are super fast on LTE. If you are fed up for reasons other than data speeds than changing carriers might be your only option. Good luck.
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They are updating a lot of their towers in the bay area so your signal might improve in a few months. You might also consider an LTE device as you should have or be right around the corner from having LTE service in your area. Here's an LTE deployment map for the South Bay: Update map
If you're in Kansas you should have LTE active in your area. If not then it should be available there soon. I'd think about trying a Sprint LTE device before jumping ship. I've seen speed tests on Youtube and they are super fast on LTE. If you are fed up for reasons other than data speeds than changing carriers might be your only option. Good luck.
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I believe LTE is active here. But even though I get decent wimax in my area(at least the last time I checked it connected), I haven't used WiMax at all on my E4GT that I got in march, except to do a few speed tests just to compare it to speeds on 3G and WiFi.
I have two other reasons for wanting to switch too. For one, T-Mobile gets better signal in my area, and with a prepaid plan that's a hell of a lot cheaper than Sprint, it helps. I'm getting off my parents contract and was debating between Sprint and T-Mobile prepaid.
Second, I would rather have a GSM phone than CDMA. I think that having a GSM phone would be more beneficial in case I brick my phone, where just popping the sim card would be easier than calling Sprint to activate a different phone.
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I believe LTE is active here. But even though I get decent wimax in my area(at least the last time I checked it connected), I haven't used WiMax at all on my E4GT that I got in march, except to do a few speed tests just to compare it to speeds on 3G and WiFi.
I have two other reasons for wanting to switch too. For one, T-Mobile gets better signal in my area, and with a prepaid plan that's a hell of a lot cheaper than Sprint, it helps. I'm getting off my parents contract and was debating between Sprint and T-Mobile prepaid.
Second, I would rather have a GSM phone than CDMA. I think that having a GSM phone would be more beneficial in case I brick my phone, where just popping the sim card would be easier than calling Sprint to activate a different phone.
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I'd go with T-Mobile over sprint for prepaid, their unlimited prepaid is like 50$ a month you get 4g and its throttled after 3 or 5gb(I forget which) but speeds when throttled are still 1-3mbps and on T-Mobile you can roam on at&t for free if you end up in an area with no tmobile coverage but at&t coverage. The only downside to T-Mobile is they have crappy customer service and they don't always have the best selection of devices right away. At least they didn't when i had them for work. They always had the downgraded version. Like in my case they only had the bb pearl 8100 when everyone else had the 8190. And now they have the one s which is a slightly downgraded one x just has a little less power under the hood. Kinda like only being able to get a oz rally lancer when the other carriers have the lancer evo
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Sprint freaking sucks... I was going to cancel my account (after 10 years) and go to Verizon.. but after 30 mins on the phone with cust INservice I was informed that the ETF only starts going down after 6 months (instead of immediately like I was told to begin with)... The whole time the rep was telling me the max ETF was $300 but mine was $350 and she couldn't explain it...
The constant BS from customer service and the steadily declining data speeds are making paying that $350 just to get out of it seem worth it....
PLUS... I see people talking about waiting it out.. Sprint will eventually have upgraded towers and then LTE will be here "soon" and all that... I was an early adopter of the EVO 4G and the WiMax connectivity that would "soon" come to my area... needless to say, I never got to use WiMax once...
There's no way I'm staying with Sprint for the promise of better 3G speeds or the coming of LTE - eventually
Several friends have Verizon and their speeds are WAY better and with how much data I use I'd spending almost the same amount as I am on Sprint.
OK, sorry about the soapbox.. but it's a sore subject as of late
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Good luck with Verizon they now charge $40 per line access charge on top of your data plan and the Max data is 10gb @ $100 so for 10gb data you pay $140+tax and their customer service is 100x worse than sprint. The bare minimum plan is like 2gb data @ $30 I think plus the $40 per line access charge so your paying $70+tax for 1 line with 2gb data if you have more than one line its $40 per additional line so 2lines + 2gb data = $110 + tax or more I can't remember for sure if 2gb is $30 or $40 all I know is its a rip off and they have no other plans now except this new shared data and unlimited calls and texts scheme which all the plans are over priced on top of having that ridiculous $40 per line access charge for a family of 4 you pay $160 just in access charges plus what even minimal amount of data you want tto share for 10gb that's $260 + tax for a family of 4, on sprint I pay $207 for 4 lines with unlimited everything including unlimited hotspots and that includes tax. I'd have to be retarded or just like giving away money to switch carriers. Not to mention I live in a semi rural area and they've already begun the network vision and lte deployment in my area, and many urban areas are already seeing lte which just hasn't been officially turned on but its active and you can use it.
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mideastbeast said:
They are updating a lot of their towers in the bay area so your signal might improve in a few months. You might also consider an LTE device as you should have or be right around the corner from having LTE service in your area. Here's an LTE deployment map for the South Bay: Update map
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Thanks for this. Good to know that Bay Area is next on the list. I wonder if that really is why voice calls are almost useless (at least for me). I would think they are different towers but I have no idea.
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I'd go with T-Mobile over sprint for prepaid, their unlimited prepaid is like 50$ a month you get 4g and its throttled after 3 or 5gb(I forget which) but speeds when throttled are still 1-3mbps and on T-Mobile you can roam on at&t for free if you end up in an area with no tmobile coverage but at&t coverage. The only downside to T-Mobile is they have crappy customer service and they don't always have the best selection of devices right away. At least they didn't when i had them for work. They always had the downgraded version. Like in my case they only had the bb pearl 8100 when everyone else had the 8190. And now they have the one s which is a slightly downgraded one x just has a little less power under the hood. Kinda like only being able to get a oz rally lancer when the other carriers have the lancer evo
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I actually found out new T-Mobile prepaid customers have access to a $30/month plan that gives 100 minutes, unlimited texting, and unlimited "4G" data with throttling after 5GB. And as far as devices go, I'll probably see if the next Nexus can support T-Mobile's network like the GNex can. If not I'll buy the GNex and wait for a better device.
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I have been noticing awful reception issues. Wimax keeps fizzling out on me, and I don't know who says NYC seems to be getting good 3g cuz it sure as Hell isn't me. This is with CM9, TW based runs, everything. I am hoping that the rumored lte upgrade in November/December will help matters on the 3g front. I promised my wife the next upgrade when the new iPhone comes out. Hopefully my e4gt will keep me going till another upgrade comes around.
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Since T-mobile live chat did help one bit (background info will be provided shortly), I figure I'll ask the helpful people on XDA.
Trouble: I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (t-mobile variant) running the latest update that is suppose to enable LTE (updated through kies). On 3 to 4 bars out of 4 bars of 4G signal, my download speed varies from 0.05 mbps (when I initially got them in nov 2012) to 5 mbps according to speedtest.net; however, I have seen download speed of 12mbps, but that is only around a local T-mobile store. My 2 locations that I always test are all within 1 hour driving from downtown Los Angeles (with the closest one being only 10 minutes drive) and both city are in populated area, so both cities should provide pretty good HSPA+ signal. The only possibility for the cause that I can think of is the modification to t-mobile's 1900 band, but an employee at a local T-mobile store told me that the Galaxy Note 2 shouldn't be affected by this unless there is a special case. But problem is, I almost never seen a connection speed that goes past 7mbps on my phone.
What T-mobile live chat told me: I won't post the entire chat history unless people really want to see and give yourself some palm to face, so here is a very accurate summary of it. 1) it is very reasonable to be running at a download speed of 0.2 mbps on a full bar of 4G HSPA+ 42 signal on my galaxy note 2. 2) I will be stuck with this speed until LTE rolls out. 3) YES my speed WILL BE THE SAME as my iPhone 3G running on EDGE network from 4 years ago. (I asked #3 as part of a joke because I am just so speechless before that point, and the person actually agreed with that statement) Throughout this chat session, I was provided with links to troubleshoot and possible explanations. One link stated the situation where you go over your data limit, which I have used 1.4GB out of my 5GB data plan.
TL;DR (too long; didn't read): 4G speed on note 2 really slow (read the numbers in the 1st paragraph) and t-mobile live chat representative is completely clueless (funny read if you have time)
Same issue here, ive been experiencing it since December last year. At first I got 0.00mb for weeks when normally I would get 8mb to 15mb down. Tmo requested a service ticket which by the way is still open. According to them work is being done on the towers but its been months now. Ill stick with tmobile, I know they'll make it right. As of now my phone will either get 3mb down or network errors.
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Since T-mobile live chat did help one bit (background info will be provided shortly), I figure I'll ask the helpful people on XDA.
Trouble: I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (t-mobile variant) running the latest update that is suppose to enable LTE (updated through kies). On 3 to 4 bars out of 4 bars of 4G signal, my download speed varies from 0.05 mbps (when I initially got them in nov 2012) to 5 mbps according to speedtest.net; however, I have seen download speed of 12mbps, but that is only around a local T-mobile store. My 2 locations that I always test are all within 1 hour driving from downtown Los Angeles (with the closest one being only 10 minutes drive) and both city are in populated area, so both cities should provide pretty good HSPA+ signal. The only possibility for the cause that I can think of is the modification to t-mobile's 1900 band, but an employee at a local T-mobile store told me that the Galaxy Note 2 shouldn't be affected by this unless there is a special case. But problem is, I almost never seen a connection speed that goes past 7mbps on my phone.
What T-mobile live chat told me: I won't post the entire chat history unless people really want to see and give yourself some palm to face, so here is a very accurate summary of it. 1) it is very reasonable to be running at a download speed of 0.2 mbps on a full bar of 4G HSPA+ 42 signal on my galaxy note 2. 2) I will be stuck with this speed until LTE rolls out. 3) YES my speed WILL BE THE SAME as my iPhone 3G running on EDGE network from 4 years ago. (I asked #3 as part of a joke because I am just so speechless before that point, and the person actually agreed with that statement) Throughout this chat session, I was provided with links to troubleshoot and possible explanations. One link stated the situation where you go over your data limit, which I have used 1.4GB out of my 5GB data plan.
TL;DR (too long; didn't read): 4G speed on note 2 really slow (read the numbers in the 1st paragraph) and t-mobile live chat representative is completely clueless (funny read if you have time)
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Just change your apn to old apn. You will get your speed before update. New apn with update will benefit if you are in LTE area.
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Just change your apn to old apn. You will get your speed before update. New apn with update will benefit if you are in LTE area.
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I would if it would work. I've had a galaxy S2 and a galaxy S3 since then and they all have the issue. seems like i'll have to wait it out.
what is the old APN settings?
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what is the old APN settings?
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Here you go .... http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1979
Crazy4G1 said:
Same issue here, ive been experiencing it since December last year. At first I got 0.00mb for weeks when normally I would get 8mb to 15mb down. Tmo requested a service ticket which by the way is still open. According to them work is being done on the towers but its been months now. Ill stick with tmobile, I know they'll make it right. As of now my phone will either get 3mb down or network errors.
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Other than 3 or 4 specific areas, I have yet to see a speed past 8mpbs, even 6 to 7mpbs are rare. This has been going on since the day i got the phone, and just like you, i was told that the towers' 1900 band is being modified. But today, i was told that the modification shouldn't affect my phone, which lead me to talk to tmobile through their online chat system
Try calling up T-Mobile and complain about data speed is freaking slow. Ask them to reset your data. I did that couple day ago. now my speed before was 5meg down now its 15+ meg download.
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Other than 3 or 4 specific areas, I have yet to see a speed past 8mpbs, even 6 to 7mpbs are rare. This has been going on since the day i got the phone, and just like you, i was told that the towers' 1900 band is being modified. But today, i was told that the modification shouldn't affect my phone, which lead me to talk to tmobile through their online chat system
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When I upgraded from my Vibrant to the Sensation, I was under the impression that because of the Sensation's radio, that my speeds would be doubled because it had HSPA+ 21. Then I got the S3 and now the Note 2 and assumed the HSPA+42 radio would double my speeds again. Sadly, that has never been the case. My speeds between the Vibrant and the N2 are not much different in most places. Almost wish I still had my Vibrant so I could prove myself wrong lol.
I've tried conversing with Tmobile many times, wondering if it's because I have the old required android web, which is supposed to be unlimited, without throttling. Tmobile has claimed every time that's not the case but I don't know if I can believe it. Almost tempted to buy an old Vibrant on ebay just to test it out.
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When I upgraded from my Vibrant to the Sensation, I was under the impression that because of the Sensation's radio, that my speeds would be doubled because it had HSPA+ 21. Then I got the S3 and now the Note 2 and assumed the HSPA+42 radio would double my speeds again. Sadly, that has never been the case. My speeds between the Vibrant and the N2 are not much different in most places. Almost wish I still had my Vibrant so I could prove myself wrong lol.
I've tried conversing with Tmobile many times, wondering if it's because I have the old required android web, which is supposed to be unlimited, without throttling. Tmobile has claimed every time that's not the case but I don't know if I can believe it. Almost tempted to buy an old Vibrant on ebay just to test it out.
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You have to be joking. Just because it's capable does not mean the congested network will give you that.
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Slowed down here in NYC about a month ago. Can't wait for LTE, latest news says "early summer".
I just got this phone and noticed a slow down speed as well. If you want to call it that...
On my s3, in good 4G coverage, I was getting 12-20mbps, to where I never see over 10 now. My uploads are about the same though, in the mid 3's.
I honestly can't tell a huge difference in speed in my case. I will say, my Note trumps my s3 in every way you can imagine.... Minus speed.
Just kind of a gut check, lol!
I feel for some of you guys with those low mbps.
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So after attempting to complete the Google Wallet fix for the galaxy s4 on T Mobile I ran into an issue where my 4G speeds and LTE speeds were much much lower than normal, somewhere in the range of 10 percent of normal. After attempting to remedy this every way possible short of flashing back to pure stock, including restoring modified rooted stock, I called customer care and was very surprised to find that the representative informed me that a mere 2mbit (2000kbps) classified as 4G LTE speeds to them.
Yeah you read that correctly; You will receive little to no support provided your connection is as fast as the average speed on Sprint's dilapidated and failing 3G network. I love T-Mobile for many reasons but this is just shocking. I did not spend 600 after taxes on a device capable of such insane speeds that it's faster than about 80 of American high speed Internet access, and 120 a month on a family plan with unlimited data, to be told that going backwards a decade in connection speed is "current generation".
I advise you call a rep today and confirm this, then email the ceo with me and let him know that this is not acceptable. Should he be serious about turning T-Mobile around, then he needs to cut the subscription to the typical carrier bs that helped me drive my friends away from sprint and att (crap service and speeds in our area) and into the welcoming service of T-Mobile.
Update: I had to ODIN pure stock to get my data speeds back.
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Cynagen said:
So after attempting to complete the Google Wallet fix for the galaxy s4 on T Mobile I ran into an issue where my 4G speeds and LTE speeds were much much lower than normal, somewhere in the range of 10 percent of normal. After attempting to remedy this every way possible short of flashing back to pure stock, including restoring modified rooted stock, I called customer care and was very surprised to find that the representative informed me that a mere 2mbit (2000kbps) classified as 4G LTE speeds to them.
Yeah you read that correctly; You will receive little to no support provided your connection is as fast as the average speed on Sprint's dilapidated and failing 3G network. I love T-Mobile for many reasons but this is just shocking. I did not spend 600 after taxes on a device capable of such insane speeds that it's faster than about 80 of American high speed Internet access, and 120 a month on a family plan with unlimited data, to be told that going backwards a decade in connection speed is "current generation".
I advise you call a rep today and confirm this, then email the ceo with me and let him know that this is not acceptable. Should he be serious about turning T-Mobile around, then he needs to cut the subscription to the typical carrier bs that helped me drive my friends away from sprint and att (crap service and speeds in our area) and into the welcoming service of T-Mobile.
Update: I had to ODIN pure stock to get my data speeds back.
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Were you able to get Google Wallet working again with Root after using Odin to get your speeds back to normal? I'm about to get a GS4 on Friday and ideally want to have Google Wallet, Root, Tethering and LTE working. Just wondering what might not work and will... Thanks!
It may just be my device or rom but I find that the connection justs seems to hangup for lack of a better word. I have a meter showing my data usage in kb/s and if I hit the go button for a webpage it seems to do nothing and not use any data.
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Were you able to get Google Wallet working again with Root after using Odin to get your speeds back to normal? I'm about to get a GS4 on Friday and ideally want to have Google Wallet, Root, Tethering and LTE working. Just wondering what might not work and will... Thanks!
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Take everything the rep says with a grain of salt, they often just say things because they aren't exactly sure. This, unfortunately causes confusion and people hearing different things. I get around 25-35 Mbps in my area and some people get even more.
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So after attempting to complete the Google Wallet fix for the galaxy s4 on T Mobile I ran into an issue where my 4G speeds and LTE speeds were much much lower than normal, somewhere in the range of 10 percent of normal. After attempting to remedy this every way possible short of flashing back to pure stock, including restoring modified rooted stock, I called customer care and was very surprised to find that the representative informed me that a mere 2mbit (2000kbps) classified as 4G LTE speeds to them.
Yeah you read that correctly; You will receive little to no support provided your connection is as fast as the average speed on Sprint's dilapidated and failing 3G network. I love T-Mobile for many reasons but this is just shocking. I did not spend 600 after taxes on a device capable of such insane speeds that it's faster than about 80 of American high speed Internet access, and 120 a month on a family plan with unlimited data, to be told that going backwards a decade in connection speed is "current generation".
I advise you call a rep today and confirm this, then email the ceo with me and let him know that this is not acceptable. Should he be serious about turning T-Mobile around, then he needs to cut the subscription to the typical carrier bs that helped me drive my friends away from sprint and att (crap service and speeds in our area) and into the welcoming service of T-Mobile.
Update: I had to ODIN pure stock to get my data speeds back.
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T-Mobile isn't responsible for any modifications you make to your own device. You made the mistake of implementing the fix, so deal with the consequences. It's really that simple. :good:
That's why they use the term "up to." Not every single person will receive 20+ mbps. It also depends on the amount of towers, the distance of those towers and how many people are connected to them.
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That's why they use the term "up to." Not every single person will receive 20+ mbps. It also depends on the amount of towers, the distance of those towers and how many people are connected to them.
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I agree 100% with this.
Also wish to comment that T-Mobile is VERY helpful when it comes to getting me better speeds. I was getting approx 100 kB/s download at my house which gets 4G HSPA and i called and complained. And they said that for 4G those speeds are horrible and sent a technition out to see what the issue was. The following day THEY called me back and explained there was some technical issues with the tower in my area. I think it had to do with the routing of the packets. But anyhow, they were extremely helpful with everything and now my speeds are back to 250 kB/s average And when i am at school, i get LTE my speeds there are NEVER below 1 MB/sand on good days sky rocket to 2 MB/s (advertised speeds) and sometimes even faster. I have already hit 3 MB/s it really depends on what towle said. Users on the network, what they are doing what you are doing etc etc.
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T-Mobile isn't responsible for any modifications you make to your own device. You made the mistake of implementing the fix, so deal with the consequences. It's really that simple. :good:
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I understand that, but when I've gone back to a STOCK rom and it's still happening, something's not right.
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That's why they use the term "up to." Not every single person will receive 20+ mbps. It also depends on the amount of towers, the distance of those towers and how many people are connected to them.
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I understand this entirely, however, I was less than a quarter mile from a tower sitting at home getting ~5000kbps, when normally I get 20000+. I also had slow speeds between 3 towers that I know carry T-Mo service and it never once got better until I ODIN flashed the stock ROM again.
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I agree 100% with this.
Also wish to comment that T-Mobile is VERY helpful when it comes to getting me better speeds. I was getting approx 100 kB/s download at my house which gets 4G HSPA and i called and complained. And they said that for 4G those speeds are horrible and sent a technition out to see what the issue was. The following day THEY called me back and explained there was some technical issues with the tower in my area. I think it had to do with the routing of the packets. But anyhow, they were extremely helpful with everything and now my speeds are back to 250 kB/s average And when i am at school, i get LTE my speeds there are NEVER below 1 MB/sand on good days sky rocket to 2 MB/s (advertised speeds) and sometimes even faster. I have already hit 3 MB/s it really depends on what towle said. Users on the network, what they are doing what you are doing etc etc.
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You're measuring in Bytes, I'm measuring in bits, there's 8 bits to every Byte, and when you get 250kB x 8 = 2000kbps or 2mbit, the speed the T-Mo rep quoted me as what they expect you to get. When you were getting 2MB/sec, you're getting 16000kbps, which is normal for HSPA+ and decent T-Mo LTE.
Either way, I got it fixed, however their low-end expectations are very disheartening. I just wanted to bring it to everyone's attention that if you're getting more than 2000kbps (250kB/sec), don't bother calling T-Mo, they won't help you in regards to speeds, even if you're parked right under a tower that practically nobody else is on.
For the record, I consider this "decent LTE"
I just got LTE in my area and in getting 10 Mbps, about a mile away I was getting 20 Mbps.
Not too bad for a city that didn't have LTE when the i9500 1st dropped. I ditched the int'l version for the M919 and have no regrets !
I am having data problems as well.
I was getting awesome LTE speeds after the roll out here in the Dallas area. Went on vacation to the US Virgin islands in late June and upon returning, my speeds plunged to as low as 200 Mkbps where I was getting awesome speeds as high as 15000 mbps (as per speedtest) before this.
I'm not one to go only by test numbers or what the graph says. But I am experiencing real world page lags, drops, pages hanging up, no service notices and regularly seeing the Edge symbol.
As the OP says, I am getting lots of help from Tmo, even exchanging the S4 for a new one. (had to fight to get a surprise 150. fee rescinded after they claimed my pristine unit had a broken screen, but that is a different post)
But the problem has persisted. They have reset my account several times and are in the process of resetting it now. Said wait 72 hours and it will be fixed. Said should be fixed by weds. I remain skeptical, they said that once already....so much so that I bought a Experia Z Sat. (jury is still out on that)
The girl at tech support suggested I wait on replacing it but I've simply had enough of this.
I am convinced that it is on Tmos end.
And I can definitely confirm the gist of this post. Everyone I have talked to, literally a dozen people, have had the balls to tell me that Tmo considers 2000 a good LTE speed. I call BS.
I reall like my S4 a lot and don't like that the Z has a nonremovable battery. My wish is to keep the S4.
I've not had a chance to do much with this X, so can't yet compare performance.
no complaints
Cynagen said:
So after attempting to complete the Google Wallet fix for the galaxy s4 on T Mobile I ran into an issue where my 4G speeds and LTE speeds were much much lower than normal, somewhere in the range of 10 percent of normal. After attempting to remedy this every way possible short of flashing back to pure stock, including restoring modified rooted stock, I called customer care and was very surprised to find that the representative informed me that a mere 2mbit (2000kbps) classified as 4G LTE speeds to them.
Yeah you read that correctly; You will receive little to no support provided your connection is as fast as the average speed on Sprint's dilapidated and failing 3G network. I love T-Mobile for many reasons but this is just shocking. I did not spend 600 after taxes on a device capable of such insane speeds that it's faster than about 80 of American high speed Internet access, and 120 a month on a family plan with unlimited data, to be told that going backwards a decade in connection speed is "current generation".
I advise you call a rep today and confirm this, then email the ceo with me and let him know that this is not acceptable. Should he be serious about turning T-Mobile around, then he needs to cut the subscription to the typical carrier bs that helped me drive my friends away from sprint and att (crap service and speeds in our area) and into the welcoming service of T-Mobile.
Update: I had to ODIN pure stock to get my data speeds back.
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I have gotten speeds as high as 24.53 Mbps with google wallet installed. It blows my home internet away
You must be in love with Sprint to believe that 2 Mbps is sprints 3G. Sprints 4G Wimax barely...BARELY hits 3 Mbps. Sprint 3g is equal to T-Mobile 2G. I did a test in the Bay Area, California, and tmobile beat att and verizon, at 32 mbps and att was at 24 mbps while verizon only hit 8 mbps. All with 3 bars of lte.
I have been noticing that the internet speed has been dropping lately, and I believe its because of the purchasing of metro, along with them ALL wanting iPhone and lte. So people that have trouble paying their bills (ive seen the average customers, I know what they look like. Theres a few that are just like you and me, but most show off their lower class status with their huawei and zte phones.) So its Metros fault for selling out. I noticed that my internet on an att unlocked iphone 5 has been dropping and lagging the past few days, and switching to a gs4 shows that its the carrier, or my account. So, I doubt your phone is the problem.
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You must be in love with Sprint to believe that 2 Mbps is sprints 3G. Sprints 4G Wimax barely...BARELY hits 3 Mbps. Sprint 3g is equal to T-Mobile 2G. I did a test in the Bay Area, California, and tmobile beat att and verizon, at 32 mbps and att was at 24 mbps while verizon only hit 8 mbps. All with 3 bars of lte.
I have been noticing that the internet speed has been dropping lately, and I believe its because of the purchasing of metro, along with them ALL wanting iPhone and lte. So people that have trouble paying their bills (ive seen the average customers, I know what they look like. Theres a few that are just like you and me, but most show off their lower class status with their huawei and zte phones.) So its Metros fault for selling out. I noticed that my internet on an att unlocked iphone 5 has been dropping and lagging the past few days, and switching to a gs4 shows that its the carrier, or my account. So, I doubt your phone is the problem.
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I used to be one of those "lower class status" users, I had a stupid little Huawei Ascend on cricKet (MetroPCS partner), and while I rooted and modded it to hell, the service sucked. I migrated to AT&T and found they weren't much better, then moved back to my old carrier, T-Mo and have been happy overall. I know that after the purchase of MetroPCS, that cricKet would be the partner of T-Mo out here and all those phones (more people in the area that I -lived- in the same area as me (not out of town college kids in for the semester) have cricKet) would be bogging the network down, but it still performed well enough. In the thick of the cricKet area called Mesa, AZ, I still got over 20mbit on HSPA+ and LTE. I knew as soon as they announced all the high end phones prior to the purchase of MetroPCS for both they and cricKet that they wouldn't have the network to support it, then T-Mo purchase happened, I knew I would suffer in areas where everyone and their dog has these phones. I also know their model of pre-pay month to month was highly abused out here so I expect that bandwidth is gonna be extremely limited at times, but dropping from 24mbps normally to 2mbps is 1/12th, ridiculous. Anyways, it's back to normal, I just try to stay as far away from towers with large groups of idiots on them which is kind of hard to do around here.
EDIT: My dad has Sprint (I tried to steer him far far away from that BS but he wouldn't budge), he gets like 2-5mbps on his Note 2 which doesn't get WiMax AFAIK, only 3G, it's ready for the 4G/LTE but Sprint has lied for 4 years straight about LTE deployment out here, I'm just waiting for him to get fed up with unsent messages and dropped calls enough to give up and jump ship finally, however that won't be until he finishes his new 2-year contract like a fool.
Check this out guys, the awesome coverage and now speed with the low cost!
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/13/4727886/straight-talk-prepaid-now-works-with-att-lte-devices
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Can't wait for my T-Mobile contract to end!
Can tmobile phone use on straight talk?
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you'll get "unlimited" data, talk, and text for $45 per month.
those quotes.
This thread is a complete fail....
You dont get unlimited. You get capped at 1-2 GB of usage.
So whats the point of LTE if your just going to get capped sooner????
#FAIL........
hypersonicx said:
This thread is a complete fail....
You dont get unlimited. You get capped at 1-2 GB of usage.
So whats the point of LTE if your just going to get capped sooner????
#FAIL........
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For $45/month or less, 1-2 GB/month at LTE speeds is competitive... but data with Straight Talk had always been a bit flaky for me, with high latency. I wonder if AT&T's LTE on Straight Talk would be better.
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This thread is a complete fail....
You dont get unlimited. You get capped at 1-2 GB of usage.
So whats the point of LTE if your just going to get capped sooner????
#FAIL........
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Couldn't have said it better myself! Plus LTE is to battery hungry for it to be a viable replacement for HSPA+
I'm perfectly happy with my HSPA+ 42Mbps T-Mobile network through Straight Talk!
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Couldn't have said it better myself! Plus LTE is to battery hungry for it to be a viable replacement for HSPA+
I'm perfectly happy with my HSPA+ 42Mbps T-Mobile network through Straight Talk!
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Battery isn't that bad. :good:
But I can see how it would be a decent plan for some people.
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Battery isn't that bad. :good:
But I can see how it would be a decent plan for some people.
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Who knows, maybe I'm just unlucky but every time I turned off LTE on the three LTE phones I've had and relied on HSPA+ I saw about a 50% improvement in battery life. This is significant to me...
I'm not on an LTE plan anymore so I've had turned off the whole time of ownership of my s4 so I can not make judgement on this phone.
Not sure why some people always claim to get "capped" by straighttalk in every forum. I was with them a year and never got throttled or capped. My wife is using my old S2 on exact same account now-still uses what she wants, when she wants. Never received a call or text like others say they get when going too high. If you are free to go try them out-I say do it. Let us all know how their LTE is. I went to them from ATT back when they had the ATT sims the first time and could tell NO DIFFERENCE in call reception or quality.
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Not sure why some people always claim to get "capped" by straighttalk in every forum. I was with them a year and never got throttled or capped. My wife is using my old S2 on exact same account now-still uses what she wants, when she wants. Never received a call or text like others say they get when going too high. If you are free to go try them out-I say do it. Let us all know how their LTE is. I went to them from ATT back when they had the ATT sims the first time and could tell NO DIFFERENCE in call reception or quality.
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I can attest to the throttling as I was throttle several times. It seems that once you get throttled once, you seem to be targeted more often. A lot of people were forced to buy new sim cards because the problem was so rampant.
Despite the throttling, I still think straight talk is the best deal around.
How do I find out if straight talk has Lte service where I live? Thanks
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This thread is a complete fail....
You dont get unlimited. You get capped at 1-2 GB of usage.
So whats the point of LTE if your just going to get capped sooner????
#FAIL........
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.....I don't think you understand fully what capped means....If it wasnt unlimited 2 things would happen. One no more data period once you hit that 1-2 gb limit or youd be charged out the ass for going over.... do either happen? No.
Does it get slowed down a bit once you do go over? Yes. Do you still have data? Yes. Can you still use as much as you like? Yes. Translation unlimited.
Unlimited speed. No. Unlimited data yes.
Also just because your data is faster doesn't mean you will use more faster. No matter what data connection you use you still are going to use the same amount of data regardless.
Example IF it took 1mb of data just to open Facebook on 3g its still going to use 1mb of data to open Facebook on lte. Its just going to load faster on lte
So....your post was a fail in the end.
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doesn't beat my $30 month prepaid tmobile plan......
How can I find out if straight talk offers 4G Lte where I live.
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How can I find out if straight talk offers 4G Lte where I live.
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Check AT&T's LTE map.
Yesterday, I put my T-Mo StraightTalk sim into SGH-T999L and, lo and behold, I got LTE. I did not change the APN, so it still was fast.t-mobile.com, and it worked on my ST sim. The network was shown as HOME and mobile network type as LTE. First, I thought it might be a glitch, but when I ran speedtest, it showed ~16 mbps down and ~8.5 mbps up, so I could see that it was indeed LTE. Unfortunately, I did not take any shcreenshots to prove it for naysayers here, and I do not own a T-mo LTE-enabled device. But hey, anybody can try it.
AIO (or should it be EOL/end of life) was throttled by AT&T. Still LTE, but limited to slower speed. This was proven with a side-by-side test of AIO and GoPhone.
How about ST and Net10? I use GoPhone for long road trips because there is no throttling whatsoever.
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AIO (or should it be EOL/end of life) was throttled by AT&T. Still LTE, but limited to slower speed. This was proven with a side-by-side test of AIO and GoPhone.
How about ST and Net10? I use GoPhone for long road trips because there is no throttling whatsoever.
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I was on AT&T GoPhone but recently switched to ST ATT. So far I haven't noticed any drop in speed myself, but I've only done anecdotal speedtest stuff relying on memory for the AT&T GoPhone speeds. The pings also have seemed comparable (I've seen 80-200 ms).
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Also just because your data is faster doesn't mean you will use more faster. No matter what data connection you use you still are going to use the same amount of data regardless.
Example IF it took 1mb of data just to open Facebook on 3g its still going to use 1mb of data to open Facebook on lte. Its just going to load faster on lte
So....your post was a fail in the end.
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yours is one viewpoint..there IS, however, merit to the thought that faster speed equals more consumption. Coming from Sprint, if I didn't have an LTE connection I, basically, wouldn't even try certain things (updating apps/watching videos). With a faster connection comes the knowledge that you won't be waiting 5 minutes for a 1 minute YouTube video to load (let alone watching a movie/tv show via the xfinity app) and that, in turn, means you'll use more data. Not saying you're wrong because your Facebook analogy is totally accurate, just providing another viewpoint/perspective.