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If I flash an older rom, can I then use an older RUU?

I wasn't sure about the answer to this question, so I thought I'd just go to Q&A and ask. I searched and didn't find anything on this specifically. I'm a bit worried about using the latest RUU since the whole 2.02 HBoot thing (though I'm not sure if it would update older phones to that version). I was wondering if I'd be able to use the recovery to flash an early rooted rom and from there use an RUU and unroot it to that earlier version.
Sorry if that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, I'm just wondering if I can trick the RUU into letting me install an old version. A botched unrooting left me with the 0.93 hboot instead of my usual .76 eng hboot.

I don't think that this will work for ya, you need to downgrade your hboot. From my experiences by downgrading my hboot i was able to flash older ruu files.

Yellowcard8992 said:
I don't think that this will work for ya, you need to downgrade your hboot. From my experiences by downgrading my hboot i was able to flash older ruu files.
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Oh well, I'll just flash the latest PC36IMG.ZIP. I found it on the 2.02 hboot thread. It doesn't really matter, I only need to unroot this thing long enough to have Sprint accept it. It's been rebooting so much lately that I can barely use it for longer than 30 minutes. This was my last resort after wiping repeatedly, changing SD cards and other things.

just remember to flash the Unrevoked S-On tool too.

[Q] Does PC36IMG Also Contain A "Stock" Recovery?

This is a simple question that I have:
If I were to want to return to bone stock -- I mean like, fresh out of the cardboard box -- on my EVO, would using Bootloader to flash PC36IMG.zip replace EVERYTHING, including Amon-Ra's recovery image?
Just curious, and unfortunately there seems to be some FUD in some of the threads I've seen about unrooting and such.
Any knowledgeable folk have an answer?
T.I.A.

A "stock" recovery is no recovery. So if you unrooted, ran the ruu, ect, and tried to boot into recovery, you'd be met with the triangle and a ! indicating no recovery.

teh roxxorz said:
A "stock" recovery is no recovery. So if you unrooted, ran the ruu, ect, and tried to boot into recovery, you'd be met with the triangle and a ! indicating no recovery.
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Aha!!!
Follow-up Question: I'm on a Mac and the RUU's I've seen are all in .exe files. Assuming I have the latest radios, do I need an RUU or is PC36IMG sufficient?

TonyArmstrong said:
Aha!!!
Follow-up Question: I'm on a Mac and the RUU's I've seen are all in .exe files. Assuming I have the latest radios, do I need an RUU or is PC36IMG sufficient?
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PC36IMG is sufficient. Same results as RUU. Just be sure to turn your S-on before running the PC36IMG, using the Unrevoked S on tool (that is if you ever used Unrevoked forever at any point in time)

TonyArmstrong said:
Aha!!!
Follow-up Question: I'm on a Mac and the RUU's I've seen are all in .exe files. Assuming I have the latest radios, do I need an RUU or is PC36IMG sufficient?
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I don't know if when you download it, it would change to the correct extension; you could always try changing it. Either way, you're in luck.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699565/3.70 RUU Zip.zip
A link to my dropbox of a 3.70 RUU in PC36IMG form, just put on your sdcard and flash in the bootloader.

PC3GIMG.zip is just the name of the file that hboot looks for to flash, they are all different! Some PC36IMGs have recoveries, some have radios, some have ROMs, etc... You need to be careful which one you flash, and KNOW for sure whats in it before you do because you run the risk of messing up your phone if you flash the wrong one!

k2buckley said:
PC36IMG is sufficient. Same results as RUU. Just be sure to turn your S-on before running the PC36IMG, using the Unrevoked S on tool (that is if you ever used Unrevoked forever at any point in time)
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Yep, I rooted with unrEVOked, so I'd have to do UnrEVOked S-ON first.
Thank you guys...good stuff here.

TonyArmstrong said:
Yep, I rooted with unrEVOked, so I'd have to do UnrEVOked S-ON first.
Thank you guys...good stuff here.
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Correct, then the PC36IMG and you'll be all set.

So what is the difference between an RUU and a PC36IMG.zip? My hardware 0003 evo has an 2.10 hboot and the baseband of 2.15. 00.11.19
If I want to unroot my phone back to stock out of the box what file do I need? And yes I know to do the s-on first...
Sent from my Evo 3D

.torrented said:
So what is the difference between an RUU and a PC36IMG.zip? My hardware 0003 evo has an 2.10 hboot and the baseband of 2.15. 00.11.19
If I want to unroot my phone back to stock out of the box what file do I need? And yes I know to do the s-on first...
Sent from my Evo 3D
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The RUU (ROM Update Utility) is IN a PC36IMG.zip.
Turn S-ON back on.
Go into Bootloader.
Allow it to detect.
Update (make sure you have the correct PC36IMG.zip).

not to hi-jack the thread but say HTC/Sprint did upgrade to the EVO 4G to GB could i flash the "stock" recovery without running the ruu and wiping everything? i use stock rom but like the features Root and Amon Ra brings havent found a custom rom that like everything seems to be themed and not my style.

cdw9800 said:
not to hi-jack the thread but say HTC/Sprint did upgrade to the EVO 4G to GB could i flash the "stock" recovery without running the ruu and wiping everything? i use stock rom but like the features Root and Amon Ra brings havent found a custom rom that like everything seems to be themed and not my style.
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Again, "stock" recovery is no recovery. And if you were to upgrade, you'd have to root, and you can keep the rooted stock rom. You can flash CM7 which is basically stock android AOSP, not themed. Can always flash back if you don't like it, and everything is working.

Yeah I know about cm used it on pretty much everything g1 nexus mt4g etc I like some stuff sense have to offer over asop I always end up flashing to see the new stuff I prefer stock android but the usb transfer speed is killing me atm waiting for that to get fixed and I understand stock is recovery guess ima have to titanium backup which works but some issues thanks tho I try stuff nandroid is my bestfriend in android
teh roxxorz said:
Again, "stock" recovery is no recovery. And if you were to upgrade, you'd have to root, and you can keep the rooted stock rom. You can flash CM7 which is basically stock android AOSP, not themed. Can always flash back if you don't like it, and everything is working.
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Unrooting Revolutionary
So I have an EVO that I want to turn to STOCK...
this is some info on it:
Reolutionary
Supersonic EVT3 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT: 6.16
Radio 2.15.00.07.28
Android version 2.2
kernel version 2.6.32.15
build number 3.26.651.6
PRI version 215_003
Hardware version 0004
I have no recovery after doing the S-ON tool several times, but it keeps coming back with the Revolutionary on top and S-OFF.
How can I bring my EVO back to stock fresh out of the box?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

spinsat74 said:
So I have an EVO that I want to turn to STOCK...
this is some info on it:
Reolutionary
Supersonic EVT3 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT: 6.16
Radio 2.15.00.07.28
Android version 2.2
kernel version 2.6.32.15
build number 3.26.651.6
PRI version 215_003
Hardware version 0004
I have no recovery after doing the S-ON tool several times, but it keeps coming back with the Revolutionary on top and S-OFF.
How can I bring my EVO back to stock fresh out of the box?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Did you use unrEVOked to turn S-ON? If so, and please correct me if I'm wrong, to my understanding you can only use that method if you used unrEVOked to root originally. In which case, you may need to use a different method. Perhaps the reason for S-OFF coming back.

Stuck at White HTC Boot Screen, Can't get to Recovery

Hey,
I was trying to load up the new radios and when I did it my phone kept losing connections to 3G and everything so I tried to update hboot to the latest and now I can't get past the HTC EVO 4G White Screen. I can still access Hboot but I can't get to recovery.
I was loading the radios from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I tried to install the PC36IMG from RA-supersonic 2.3 but its not giving me the instruction to install it. It reads the PC36IMG.zip in Hboot but I don't get an option asking do I want to install it.
I got the file from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Is there a way for me to get to recovery? My phone won't boot past the screen, I assume if I can get back to recovery I can wipe it and use a different ROM. Thanks

junkyardwillie said:
Hey,
I was trying to load up the new radios and when I did it my phone kept losing connections to 3G and everything so I tried to update hboot to the latest and now I can't get past the HTC EVO 4G White Screen. I can still access Hboot but I can't get to recovery.
I was loading the radios from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I tried to install the PC36IMG from RA-supersonic 2.3 but its not giving me the instruction to install it. It reads the PC36IMG.zip in Hboot but I don't get an option asking do I want to install it.
I got the file from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Is there a way for me to get to recovery? My phone won't boot past the screen, I assume if I can get back to recovery I can wipe it and use a different ROM. Thanks
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Are you still showing S-OFF? When you flash your hboot you also have to flash a new kernel in order for it to boot, the recovery on the other hand should still work regardless.

Its showing Supersonice EVT2-2 Ship S-ON. Does that mean I lost root?

s-on sorry man you lost root through updating your hboot there are many ways to downgrade your hboot and reroot look here ... in android development thread for htc evo
heres a link hope i helped http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
Thats hboot for 2.10 downgrade please tell me what version HBOOT you updated too so that i may provide a proper link if thats not your hboot

atadres said:
s-on sorry man you lost root through updating your hboot there are many ways to downgrade your hboot and reroot look here ... in android development thread for htc evo
heres a link hope i helped http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
Thats hboot for 2.10 downgrade please tell me what version HBOOT you updated too so that i may provide a proper link if thats not your hboot
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Thanks for the help, I'm on HBOOT-2.16.0001

So do I need to start back from the beginning. I found this link that is for Rooting with Hboot 2.16, I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing. The other link is to downgrade my Hboot but it says I need to be S-Off to do it. My phone can't boot past the White HTC screen right now. Is there a way to unroot through Hboot or something without the phone being loaded? Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386

junkyardwillie said:
So do I need to start back from the beginning. I found this link that is for Rooting with Hboot 2.16, I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing. The other link is to downgrade my Hboot but it says I need to be S-Off to do it. My phone can't boot past the White HTC screen right now. Is there a way to unroot through Hboot or something without the phone being loaded? Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
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Running the latest RUU should get your phone up and running again. Then just use revolutionary again and you should be S-OFF again. Also be sure to permanently set S-OFF with unrevoked forever before flashing a new hboot.

xHausx said:
Running the latest RUU should get your phone up and running again. Then just use revolutionary again and you should be S-OFF again. Also be sure to permanently set S-OFF with unrevoked forever before flashing a new hboot.
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I tried flashing the deodex version of the stock ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245291.
I downloaded the file and changed the name to PC36IMG.zip. I turned on my phone to Hboot which read the file but I didn't get a message asking if I wanted to install it, the bar went for a little while and then it went to "Checking...[PC36IMG.zip]" but I don't know if it actually flashed anything. When I rebooted my phone it just went back into FastBoot. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? It still won't let me into Recovery, it just freezes at the HTC EVO 4G screen. I haven't gotten caught in this loop before. Thanks for the help

junkyardwillie said:
I tried flashing the deodex version of the stock ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245291.
I downloaded the file and changed the name to PC36IMG.zip. I turned on my phone to Hboot which read the file but I didn't get a message asking if I wanted to install it, the bar went for a little while and then it went to "Checking...[PC36IMG.zip]" but I don't know if it actually flashed anything. When I rebooted my phone it just went back into FastBoot. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? It still won't let me into Recovery, it just freezes at the HTC EVO 4G screen. I haven't gotten caught in this loop before. Thanks for the help
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With S-ON you'll only be able to flash PC36IMGs that have been signed by HTC, otherwise it will reject it. This one here should work for you though.

xHausx said:
With S-ON you'll only be able to flash PC36IMGs that have been signed by HTC, otherwise it will reject it. This one here should work for you though.
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I flashed that ROM and I got the phone back booted up. Thanks again, you all are awesome!

I didn't know u can flash unrevoked forever on top of revolutionary...learn something new everyday
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{ParanoiA} said:
I didn't know u can flash unrevoked forever on top of revolutionary...learn something new everyday
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Ne either. Someone explain how to do that. Please.
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I am having the same exact issue on a HTC Evo View. Is Revolutionary rooted S-OFF HBOOT-6.14.5555. I tried the PC36IMG.zip file in root of sd card as well. It seems to get erased. I dont see a recovery image file for htc evo view in Rom Manager. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

Make LCD Incredible S-On

I have an LCD Incredible with radio version 2.15.10.07.07 and I'm trying to return it back to stock so I can sell it to a friend. I have already flashed the stock unrooted ROM (PB31IMG.zip) and it gave me back the stock recovery, I read that I should flash unrevoked-forever-son.zip via CWM but my radio isn't on the supported list and I don't want to brick the device. What should I do?
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Go here and flash the 7.28 Froyo radio http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=18 that should do the trick. This is assuming you flashed the Froyo RUU.

I flashed the Gingerbread image, I didn't use the RUU because I was having problems connecting.

I believe you can still flash the Froyo radio. If not just flash the Froyo Ruu, you can also get the PB31IMG file for it at pvillcomp.com. Then flash the 7.28 radio. If you do this, the phone should receive the OTA gingerbread update.

Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?

Go here, grab the stock recovery and flash it in Hboot. I'm not sure if you will have to reroot first or not. Give it a shot and let me know.

brando56894 said:
Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?
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You should be able to run the PB13IMGwhatver zip again and it will give you the Stock Recovery and Stock Rom.
My advice would be to run the newest Gingerbread Stock PBIMG so as to not have to downgrade, then boot, then download OTA, then run that and so on. Simply flash one PBIMG and be over with it
Hope this helps....

Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.

brando56894 said:
Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.
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Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.

cmlusco said:
Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
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KyoceraEchoHax said:
Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
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s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.

cmlusco said:
s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.
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This man speaks the truth!

cmlusco said:
You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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This is what I tried to flash but it didn't give me any option to update it.

[Q] Hboot issues

Hello I've been on this forum for quite a while, but never really posted anything. Right now I'm struggling with my EVO4g because it's having issues updating the PC36IMG.zip in hboot AND it says it is S-on when other programs such as revolutionary's root program. I'll explain everything I did and provide as much information in return for some help. Also I have googled this issue and no place seems to have a solution to the issues on my EVO.
What went down:
-Decided I want to unroot my phone and start from scratch
-Tried unrooting using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
-Says i have S-on and Hboot 6.17
-Tried rooting with revolutionary, but says I have s-off already enabled. HBoot says S-on though so this is where i get confused
-Tried going into recovery but just get the update picture and then the red triangle over the phone
-Try flashing RA recovery PC36IMG.zip through Hboot but never asks to update when it scans the img
My questions are Why is it saying I have s-on when revolutionary is saying I have s-off and how do I fix this? Why does my Hboot refuse to update through a PC36IMG.zip and how do i fix this?

drkknight74 said:
Hello I've been on this forum for quite a while, but never really posted anything. Right now I'm struggling with my EVO4g because it's having issues updating the PC36IMG.zip in hboot AND it says it is S-on when other programs such as revolutionary's root program. I'll explain everything I did and provide as much information in return for some help. Also I have googled this issue and no place seems to have a solution to the issues on my EVO.
What went down:
-Decided I want to unroot my phone and start from scratch
-Tried unrooting using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
-Says i have S-on and Hboot 6.17
-Tried rooting with revolutionary, but says I have s-off already enabled. HBoot says S-on though so this is where i get confused
-Tried going into recovery but just get the update picture and then the red triangle over the phone
-Try flashing RA recovery PC36IMG.zip through Hboot but never asks to update when it scans the img
My questions are Why is it saying I have s-on when revolutionary is saying I have s-off and how do I fix this? Why does my Hboot refuse to update through a PC36IMG.zip and how do i fix this?
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This is because of your hboot 6.16. That's the hboot that revolutionary gives you after you s-off so it thinks your s-off already. What you have to do is run the ruu again and it will revert your hboot back to 2.16 so you can rerun revolutionary
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Also the reasons the PC36IMG.zip you tried to flash do not work is because your s-on the ONLY thing that will flash in the bootloader is something signed by HTC so trying to flash a recovery ect do not work. Only things signed by HTC are ruus
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Thanks a lot for your help! Worked like a charm

Oh my god finally the thread I was looking for!! I Did the EXACT SAME steps and I am looking for a solution. ATM I have 6.17something HBOOT, android 2.3.3, build 4.54.651.1, kernel 2.6.35.10-g1357ee, and broadbase 2.15.00.0808. Idk if you need any of that but thats some info. PLEASE REPLY I WANT TO FIX THIS PROBLEM!!
-THANK YOU

xMidnitex said:
Oh my god finally the thread I was looking for!! I Did the EXACT SAME steps and I am looking for a solution. ATM I have 6.17something HBOOT, android 2.3.3, build 4.54.651.1, kernel 2.6.35.10-g1357ee, and broadbase 2.15.00.0808. Idk if you need any of that but thats some info. PLEASE REPLY I WANT TO FIX THIS PROBLEM!!
-THANK YOU
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Are you trying to unroot?
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evo4gnoob said:
Are you trying to unroot?
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Yes. I have "S-on" but when trying to root with revolutionary it says s-off

xMidnitex said:
Yes. I have "S-on" but when trying to root with revolutionary it says s-off
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Just rerun the ruu again and you have hboot 2.16 again then can reroot with revolutionary if you choose
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Okay but I dont remember where I downloaded the RUU previously. I dont have it on my computer because my hard drive crashed. I remember I was on a page somewhere that had all of the stock ROMs but i dont remember where

xMidnitex said:
Okay but I dont remember where I downloaded the RUU previously. I dont have it on my computer because my hard drive crashed. I remember I was on a page somewhere that had all of the stock ROMs but i dont remember where
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Here, try this. I was having this same issue and got it fixed. After I ran this RUU there was one more update, but BE CAREFUL. Don't accept the latest update from HTC/Sprint because it changes and locks your HBOOT and there's no way to root it yet. Hope this helps. I ran the ruu, let it do it's thing, accepted one update tht still had HBOOT 2.16, then rooted my phone like normal. Funny thing is, I didn't understand what ANY of this meant just a few days ago, but after 8 hours of reading and scratching my head.. it hit me and it's all pretty simple.
Originally Posted by Football
Here latest RUU for SuperSonic
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc2d...233_signed.exe
Enjoy!

xMidnitex said:
Okay but I dont remember where I downloaded the RUU previously. I dont have it on my computer because my hard drive crashed. I remember I was on a page somewhere that had all of the stock ROMs but i dont remember where
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Here's a PC36IMG of the 4.54 ROM you can install through the bootloader:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9362091/PC3....15.00.0808_NV_2.15_release_220182_signed.zip