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I'm running SkyRaider 3.0 Vanilla RC3 on my Inc w/2.6.32.15-g5e1ad8b [email protected] #1 and today I got an Update Notification from VZW. I have read that rooted/ROM'd devices are not supposed to get, nor should they, install these updates... what should I do? How do I make it go away? Thanks...
antmarching.41 said:
what should I do?
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don't install it
antmarching.41 said:
How do I make it go away?
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don't know about that, but posting in the correct section might make it stop
How do these topics keep popping up? There's a damn Droid Incredible Q&A forum!
antmarching.41 said:
I'm running SkyRaider 3.0 Vanilla RC3 on my Inc w/2.6.32.15-g5e1ad8b [email protected] #1 and today I got an Update Notification from VZW. I have read that rooted/ROM'd devices are not supposed to get, nor should they, install these updates... what should I do? How do I make it go away? Thanks...
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Head to My Droid World and ask, the members there don't jump down your throat for asking a question. Yes we all know you "Pros" lose a little of your soul each time someone who isn't in your league of Android superiority asks a question you already know the answer to, but really, your constant responses berating people who ask questions, "Let me Google that for you", "Search NAO!", etc, are more annoying that people asking a question that may have already been posted.
It seems many people forget how and why forums were created....to share information regarding a common interest. People use these forums to learn, and it is a great tool for it. Now sure, I agree people should do a little search before posting, it saves everyone time, but there really is an overwhelming amount of information out there, and a lot of it can be contradicting. There should not be a problem with people asking for a clear, updated answer. Also, many times when people are new to the development world, some of the answers out there just don't make sense, or aren't perfectly clear to the askers specific situation.
I recently sae a post by the Admin at AndroidForums(I think, it was a big Android site tho) directing their mods to not do this. To remember that all members should be welcomed, and there is no need for condescending attitudes towards people asking questions. Also, the people at My Droid World are the same way...they are willing to help, be it a Android vet or a "n00b". I know XDA could be considered an "advanced" development forum, but if you don't allow new members in and pass the knowledge along, it's just an elitist club rather than a community forum. There is no "community" in these kinds of attitudes.
And really, what good is "Google is your friend", "Use the Search", and related type responses. Obviously it is an ego thing, consiously or not. It doesn't help the person asking, and does nothing for the person answering, beside making them look like a jerk. Especially the people whining about having to waste so much time responding to duplicate questions. The simple answer is to NOT respond. But then their superiority isn't known to everyone. If you don't wanna help the OP out with an answer or link, and having nothing worth mentioning on the topic, just move along. Don't waste your precious time, that is obviously more important than the rest of ours, and simply move along.
Anyway, to the OP, I came here looking for similar info as well. I am using Skyraider Sense, but having the same issue. There is one thing I have noted tho. I use my DInc as a "backup", so there is no service on it. I then turned off wifi thinking that I would not get the update requests, but I still am. So I was wondering if the requests are originating locally, and if so if there is a file that could be deleted to stop the requests. However, I believe that even tho I don't have service, Verizon can still peach my phone and send me updates. There could be another explanation as well lol. But anyway, if I find anything out I will let ya know. If you don't find any answers here, check out My Droid World.
You hit the nail on the head. It would take no longer to respond with an answer (if you know it and don't just wanna appear to) as it does to appear as an all knowing elitist android asshat.
Not everyone on here eats/sleeps/dreams android, but like prob 60% or more of the people on here are journeyman or lower gadget freaks that like to play around with the newest stuff for there phone/toy.
I for one have tried many a time to find an answer to a prob I have but find it daunting when some of the threads get 100+ posts added a day.i end up dealing with the issue I'm having, doing a nandroid restore, or just changing roms b/c I don't wanna see the flame fest ill prob get for asking a question that might have been answered already in a thread with 4000 posts....
Grift said:
You hit the nail on the head. It would take no longer to respond with an answer (if you know it and don't just wanna appear to) as it does to appear as an all knowing elitist android asshat.
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Trust me when I say that these forums are anything but elitist. Also trust me when I say that evenly applied moderation would go a long way toward making these forums more productive.
Look around; do any developers (not ROM chefs!) actively visit XDA any more?
nobody told the op to search.
it doesn't take an android wiz or forum guru to read the rules and post in the correct place.
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Trust me when I say that these forums are anything but elitist. Also trust me when I say that evenly applied moderation would go a long way toward making these forums more productive.
Look around; do any developers (not ROM chefs!) actively visit XDA any more?
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This coming from someone who over half of his posts are nothing more than bashing blackdroid or other forum members, how does that help the community? Posting in the correct section makes it more productive. How hard is it to post a QUESTION in the "QUESTION & ANSWER" section?
I told him not to install the update because it would make him possibly lose root and other things. I told him I did not know about the other half of the question that he was asking, but that it would be much better if he asked it in the proper section. (and if you can't take a little sarcasm over the internet... i don't know how long you will make it in life)
I'm sorry I posted in the wrong section... Months ago, when I found this site I bookmarked the "Droid Incredible Android Development" thread directly. I didn't think to click back one link to the "HTC Droid Incredible" thread to see other sections... I have done searches before, but spend WAY to much time sifting through post after meaningless post. I don't have hours to spend reading threw thousands of posts to find an answer...
I did find a resolution though without the help of anyone here... using ROM Manager, I dl'd the latest Virtuous ROM = problem solved.
At least I know now where to post a question... thanks for that.
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This coming from someone who over half of his posts are nothing more than bashing blackdroid or other forum members, how does that help the community? Posting in the correct section makes it more productive. How hard is it to post a QUESTION in the "QUESTION & ANSWER" section?
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Whoa, I'm in complete agreement with you.
RE: Backdroid - one would thinly there would be agreement amongst community members that his brand of dishonesty and disingenuous mea culpas would be unwelcome.
The WinMo threads I used to lurk on here aactually contained development (read: coding) talk. The Android subforums seem to be all about clamoring for themes and conflating ROM cooking with development. I expected a similarly articulate set of users here.
Moved to Q&A as not development.
Posting questions in the right place keeps everything organised, and makes it easy to find people needing help.
Don't post questions in the development forum, and remember to search thoroughly before posting. This kind of thing regarding OTA updates is addressed in virtually every device forum on XDA.
Finally, finish with the flaming guys.
I'm just curious about something. It hasnt happened to me but I see it happen to other people. Once in a while someone will post a new thread in the wrong section. Instead of a mod politely posting and moving like on most forums, it seems like some spart ass has to post a ridiculous comment to try to make the person who posted look or feel stupid. I'm just curious as to why that is when this is supposed to be a place of development and help and learning. I personally have learned alot from this forum in general but honestly if someone smarted off to me like I see them do to some people and we were face to face I'd probably punch them in their sorry little face. Just sayin' Lighten Up!
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I'm just curious about something. It hasnt happened to me but I see it happen to other people. Once in a while someone will post a new thread in the wrong section. Instead of a mod politely posting and moving like on most forums, it seems like some spart ass has to post a ridiculous comment to try to make the person who posted look or feel stupid. I'm just curious as to why that is when this is supposed to be a place of development and help and learning. I personally have learned alot from this forum in general but honestly if someone smarted off to me like I see them do to some people and we were face to face I'd probably punch them in their sorry little face. Just sayin' Lighten Up!
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It is easy to be a cyber bully I guess....sigh
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Hm, this sounds like a suggestion more than a question... are you sure you're in the right forum?
Seriously though, the mods are busy keeping the threads carefully organized to make information easier to find. Beyond people posting in wrong areas when there's appropriate sections where members are ready and anxious to help, there are often questions being re-asked over and over. It can get tiresome, and people can get snippy.
Mainly, a good portion of users come here looking for shortcuts to great things... and then the're subsequently the same users that come back with a vast array of issues.
Read. Read. Read. And you'll find your answers, because it's almost always been asked before... and then less people will be snippy and rude.
I've been a member for over a year and been fairly active in the Epic 4G forum.
It has been my experience that a myriad of questions are constantly re-asked & re-answered by ROM devs and other little elves b/c people are too lazy to search/read-back the threads, or are simply too daunted by 10's & 100's of pages of posts.
This has become a problem to the point where on a couple different occassions we created off-site Wikis just to help redirect people to answers to common problems. The problem with this is people have to be told each time..."Go to the Wiki [here]". It would be grand if you would enable Wiki-posts. It would allow each thread to have its own little ecosystem so that Devs wouldn't have to micro-manage & update OP with Q&A on every little bug, the little guys could keep it up to snuff. It's a great way to crowd-source troubleshooting. I've seen it successfully done on a number of threads.
What's more, I believe the OP can disable it if he prefers not to have one.
Thanks for listening!
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Thread moved. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Xda has a WIKI for all devices granted some pages need updating so i doubt the Admin will enable wiki in posts
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Xda has a WIKI for all devices granted some pages need updating so i doubt the Admin will enable wiki in posts
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Very aware of the XDA Wiki, in fact, we are using it at the moment (albeit it, somewhat unsuccessfully).
One advantage of in-thread Wiki is that it's all right there, right below the OP, right after all the other instructions. EVERYONE sees it, instead of a link to another page.
Another advantage is that it's generally easier for people to edit the in-thread wiki posts than an actual Wiki-page (I know neither is difficult, but this comes from my experience helping to maintain a ROM-devoted Wiki).
As far as the drawbacks of in-thread Wikis, perhaps spam, or it being forced after the initial Post?
I'd like to throw the idea around. I know it would help troubleshooting/Q&A in the forums I participate in, thought I'd throw it out there in case others would be interested.
Thanks!
P.S. Thanks for moving my thread (and shame on my for not reading the forum descriptions more closely)
I second this. It's borderline vital in long development threads. The off thread wiki doesn't do a whole lot of good if the link to that wiki needs to be hunted for, same as everything else.
Too bad the wiki doesn't even work on my computer...I think it's something with my wifi but idk.
Years on and this is still something I wish we had on this forum. In thread wikis are essential, especially on a website as big as this with threads that run for hundreds of pages. When you come to a thread months or years after it started, the OP is often irrelevant, and the links broken. It's not reasonable to expect someone to read hundreds of pages in a forum thread to find out what the current situation is.
So people ask the same questions, over and over. Eventually people get annoyed and stop answering, and just say the ever unhelpful "go read". I'm always willing to read and learn. But wading though tons of outdated data doesn't have to be a necessity. A simple thread wiki post would make this so much easier. If you're not familiar with the concept SlickDeals.net has one (it's available to every thread but not always used). A deal is posted, people chime on on how to improve the deal. The thread may go one for a few pages, but the wiki means you can get all the relevant info in one place. The info from the OP can change, the OP doesn't have to answer basic questions over and over, or any questions. Another person can take over the thread and keep it relevant.
I checked out this wiki https://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung but it's not updated. So why not a wiki post, it's right where people are looking for the info, so more likely to remain relevant and updated.
Years on from this OP and still no in-thread wiki post? Any reason why?
I'm a PHP developer, and have been for more than a decade, if any techs want to talk more about this, I'd be happy to chat.
My favorite is when people start belly aching and go on a tirade if a newcomer hasny read the entire thread. 1/4 of which is people asking for ETAs, and the other 1/4, people getting pissed at people asking for ETAs. Like they are getting brownie points from the Dev or something X^D
I have wasted so many people's time because I've had to ask questions that have been covered a billion times. I've also had tips/tricks get buried and never come to light again which is a shame.
XDA is all about development and progression, and yet the absence of a wiki post prevents a lot of knowledge from being readily available and wastes Devs time.
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So since I haven't seen this yet as having been put together (or even that it is being worked on), I thought I'd toss this out there - anyone know if someone is working on notification drawer widget buttons (as in what the CM roms have) specifically for Jellybean roms? I know one person asked about this in another thread, and the only suggestion that was mentioned was using the app "Notification Toggle". However I've tried this and compared to its built-in CM counterpart, quite frankly it sucks, and it requires that an icon be stuck in the status bar at all times.
Anyways, as I said I hadn't seen or noticed that Paul O'Brien was going to try to work this into the Modaco JB rom, or if anyone else on here was currently trying to put this mod together. I had been running that rom for the past few days, but because of the lack of notification widget buttons (and a few other things, like broken pinch-to-zoom on Dolphin, Lightflow incompatibility, etc) I'm back to CM9 nightlies.
Cheers!
Hey thanks a lot to the mod who moved my thread. I posted it in the development section because it is specifically a DEVELOPMENT/MOD REQUEST, nothing "general" about this. I was initially going to pop into one of the existing mod threads and bring up this idea there, but I thought it wouldn't be appropriate as it might not exactly be on-topic in those threads, and that this would be better on its own. At any rate it apparently it made just a little too much sense for my thread to have been posted in an area where the most appropriate parties (i.e., developers) would have the absolute best chance at seeing it, discussing it, and responding to it. Again, thanks. Might as well have just moved it to the HTC One X forum. :good: :highfive: :good:
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Hey thanks a lot to the mod who moved my thread. I posted it in the development section because it is specifically a DEVELOPMENT/MOD REQUEST, nothing "general" about this. I was initially going to pop into one of the existing mod threads and bring up this idea there, but I thought it wouldn't be appropriate as it might not exactly be on-topic in those threads, and that this would be better on its own. At any rate it apparently it made just a little too much sense for my thread to have been posted in an area where the most appropriate parties (i.e., developers) would have the absolute best chance at seeing it, discussing it, and responding to it. Again, thanks. Might as well have just moved it to the HTC One X forum. :good: :highfive: :good:
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Did you develop something? Nope? Then don't post it in developer. Not for requests. That would be general or q&a
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Did you develop something? Nope? Then don't post it in developer. Not for requests. That would be general or q&a
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Well then apparently I shouldn't have used the word "Request", because I should have known better that people get so anal about these kinds of things here. I've said it many times before, its this kind of hair splitting crap that drives so many people away from forums like this, or at the very least prevents them from posting or otherwise contributing to. Truly a shame. And I could see if I just posted some really basic, general comment in there, because obviously that wouldn't belong.
But furthermore, it makes me laugh at how easily my entire point managed to elude you. And my point is this: if you were heading to Home Depot and knew you needed a specific plumbing part for your bathroom sink, would you waste your time asking questions in the "general" customer service area, or would you head directly to the plumbing department and ask the specialist there to help you find the product (or more relevant to my particular situation, to suggest that they carry the product if they don't already)? I'm just curious, which strategy would most likely yield the quickest, most efficient, and most relevant outcome? I know what I would/will do. Unbelievable, just really blows me away. I'm out. :silly::silly:
I have a feeling that we probably won't see this until the source code is released. It makes modding much easier. Should only be a couple weeks.
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I have a feeling that we probably won't see this until the source code is released. It makes modding much easier. Should only be a couple weeks.
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i asked adrynalyne if he would do it, and he said "not until source is released"
he made me a sad panda with that.
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Well then apparently I shouldn't have used the word "Request", because I should have known better that people get so anal about these kinds of things here. I've said it many times before, its this kind of hair splitting crap that drives so many people away from forums like this, or at the very least prevents them from posting or otherwise contributing to. Truly a shame. And I could see if I just posted some really basic, general comment in there, because obviously that wouldn't belong.
But furthermore, it makes me laugh at how easily my entire point managed to elude you. And my point is this: if you were heading to Home Depot and knew you needed a specific plumbing part for your bathroom sink, would you waste your time asking questions in the "general" customer service area, or would you head directly to the plumbing department and ask the specialist there to help you find the product (or more relevant to my particular situation, to suggest that they carry the product if they don't already)? I'm just curious, which strategy would most likely yield the quickest, most efficient, and most relevant outcome? I know what I would/will do. Unbelievable, just really blows me away. I'm out. :silly::silly:
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With this strategy the development section would be littered with "request threads." Unless you developed/are developing something, don't post in that forum. These are the forum rules - if you don't like them, you are welcome to petition the site administrator.
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hi,
what is the answer?
NFC for RAZR? y/n?
what about on ICS???
thanks.........
E110 said:
hi,
what is the answer?
NFC for RAZR? y/n?
what about on ICS???
thanks.........
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This is a question, so should be in the "Q&A" forum, not here - although I'm sure a Mod will move it quickly enough.
I'm not going to answer your question as it took me less than 10 seconds and Google to find the answer - so I'm sure you can do the same.
Read the XDA Rules and search before asking ...
excuse me dear......
I had opened many tabs from different sub forum of here... and I mistaked about correct place...
please move it... thanks...
I had searched many in google... but i didn't find answer...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=motorola+razr+nfc
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=motorola+razr+nfc
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Exactly the same link I put under the word "Google" on my post - if the OP had been bothered to look.
I get pi$$ed off with people on here who claim to have searched - when it is so obvious that they haven't at all.
What it comes down to is they actually don't know how to word the search correctly so as to get a decent result.
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@ SimonTS
Sir,
I know how to search and az I told I searched before open the topic :|
but it's obscure :|
read this page:
nfcworld.com/nfc-devices/motorola-droid-razr/
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The Motorola Droid Razr has not been advertised as an NFC handset, but a teardown has revealed it carries an NXP PN544 NFC controller chip.
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and comments that is it's below:
Q: Yea, but are we saying that with ICS the RAZR will have NFC enabled?
A: I don't think anyone knows the answer to that yet...
So........
you don't have to learn I do :|
but it's obscure, so I ask it
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Q: Yea, but are we saying that with ICS the RAZR will have NFC enabled?
A: I don't think anyone knows the answer to that yet...
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I think that you have answered your own question as well as anybody on XDA possibly can. Nobody knows - although the chip is in the phone, it may never be accessible to software, whether it is GB, ICS or JB.
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I think that you have answered your own question as well as anybody on XDA possibly can. Nobody knows - although the chip is in the phone, it may never be accessible to software, whether it is GB, ICS or JB.
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So if I'm reading all of this correctly, you're magic 'Google search'(Complete with the extra douche topping of your little animated superiority video) produced no actual answers? God forbid that someone comes onto an Android developer's message board to find out if someone here has an inside scoop, so to speak.
Not everybody is as mighty with the Google as you are, not every Google search returns the same result. You have to word your searches correctly, and some people are bettet than others. It used to be that you came onto message boards and could ask a question like this and the answer would be 'Well, it looks like the phones have the proper hardware, but it's going to require an OS level bit of code before anyone can use it, and nobody has given an actual timeframe for when this will be done, if ever.'. Now, it's a bunch pf snarky A-holes trying to see who can deliver the killing blow.
It was a legitimate question, and this was a legitimate forum to post it in. Your special Google search still didn't really answer the question, and it didn't answer the question from the perspective of Android developers, who would be MY first resource if I were looking, too. If you don't like the question being asked, then for God's sake, don't read the fracking thing. There is no law of physics that dictats that you can't pass up a post on here without reading it. I don't really understand people like you who get their panties in a twist because someone posted a question on a message board. How did this question being posted here impact your life? Me, U can't stand condescending rude people, especially in places where people go for help, so I like to call them out on it.
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So if I'm reading all of this correctly, you're magic 'Google search'(Complete with the extra douche topping of your little animated superiority video) produced no actual answers? God forbid that someone comes onto an Android developer's message board to find out if someone here has an inside scoop, so to speak.
Not everybody is as mighty with the Google as you are, not every Google search returns the same result. You have to word your searches correctly, and some people are bettet than others. It used to be that you came onto message boards and could ask a question like this and the answer would be 'Well, it looks like the phones have the proper hardware, but it's going to require an OS level bit of code before anyone can use it, and nobody has given an actual timeframe for when this will be done, if ever.'. Now, it's a bunch pf snarky A-holes trying to see who can deliver the killing blow.
It was a legitimate question, and this was a legitimate forum to post it in. Your special Google search still didn't really answer the question, and it didn't answer the question from the perspective of Android developers, who would be MY first resource if I were looking, too. If you don't like the question being asked, then for God's sake, don't read the fracking thing. There is no law of physics that dictats that you can't pass up a post on here without reading it. I don't really understand people like you who get their panties in a twist because someone posted a question on a message board. How did this question being posted here impact your life? Me, U can't stand condescending rude people, especially in places where people go for help, so I like to call them out on it.
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I'm awfully sorry to have offended your sensibilities, but who the f**k do you think you are? You sign up to XDA and the very first post you put is to resurrect a thread that is 3 1/2 months old - not to contribute anything useful, but simply to try and pick a fight?
I actually commented on the OP predominantly because it was clearly in the wrong forum - that is what the Q&A or the device specific forums exist for.
I also ended the thread with;-
I think that you have answered your own question as well as anybody on XDA possibly can. Nobody knows - although the chip is in the phone, it may never be accessible to software, whether it is GB, ICS or JB.
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which is no different to what you just posted. It is obvious that the OP doesn't use English as his first language, so trying to get all technical is of no use. The OP 'Thanked' me for my post, so he obviously had no problem with it, and he hasn't been back on here since as he is one of the many who sign up here, ask one question and are never seen again.
As for your comment about the XDA Noob Video, I didn't create that, but I personally feel that everyone who joins XDA should be forced to watch the entire thing and read the whole page of forum rules as well so that this place was able to keep to the goodness it has achieved and maybe lose a lot of the people who sign up nowadays simply to demand answers as they feel they are 'entitled' to an immediate response from people who help out on here for free in gaps from real life.
Righto, that's enough. Question answered, playtime over.
Closed.