Develop Bugs

Why all the drama lately?

It just seems to be getting worse and worse. It's not a competition here to see who gets the most downloads or posts in a thread...
You have dev's fighting, mods banning people for infractions that are minor compared to some of the stuff going on.

because the community is huge and the rom selection us even bigger and heads tend to swell easily.

I really don't think the mods are strict enough on this forum, one example being the cyanogenmod nightly thread, out of the thousands of posts there maybe 20% are about the actual rom. On other cases i've seen people jump on new devs calling them fake because they sounded like a dev that was once banned from this forum. I really don't get it, **** I could care less if someone was banned awhile back if they are developing new and exciting things for this phone who am I to judge? It's the devs and the mods they create that make this phone incredible, not the name.

N-Forced said:
I really don't think the mods are strict enough on this forum, one example being the cyanogenmod nightly thread, out of the thousands of posts there maybe 20% are about the actual rom. On other cases i've seen people jump on new devs calling them fake because they sounded like a dev that was once banned from this forum. I really don't get it, **** I could care less if someone was banned awhile back if they are developing new and exciting things for this phone who am I to judge? It's the devs and the mods they create that make this phone incredible, not the name.
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I agree 100% with you. Everyone needs a little spankin' once in awhile but to be fully banned should take something very serious. Especially for the productive people.
I know that's probably not exactly what you were thinking but that's my own take on it.

I really don't know anything about the drama, I just need to make my 10th post.

mulsifer said:
I really don't know anything about the drama, I just need to make my 10th post.
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That made me lol a lil

Heh, glad to see it's not just us in the Thunderbolt section.

mulsifer said:
I really don't know anything about the drama, I just need to make my 10th post.
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Lol +1, I believe a thanks is in order for brightening my day.

wildstang83 said:
That made me lol a lil
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Fo real. Totally lol'd.
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cvbcbcmv said:
"I really don't think the mods are strict enough on this forum" "I really don't get it, ****" Irony much?
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Read my post again because I don't think you get it.
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ShabbyPenguin of ACS Posts Rooted Kernel!

http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php/2565-ACS-Odin-Pre-Rooted-Tar!-Root-your-Epic-Touch-here!
Epic Touch Root at the link above!

Am I being incredibly stupid, or is the link to the kernel not anywhere in his post?

Lol no
Its probably still uploading
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yea, everyones waiting for it like crazy. Just check out the guest list XD.

gtuansdiamm said:
Lol no
Its probably still uploading
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Ah... I was beginning to doubt even my ability to find and click on a blue, underlined word. It's been a long day.

Yeah I found it 3 minutes after he posted about it. I don't even have my phone yet (will get it Monday). I'm just trying to help my favorite DEV community by flowing out some information!

He's still working on it
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Not trying to sound ungrateful
I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.

brian_hoffman said:
I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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Not trying to break rules. I'm just trying to help. I'm sure it will be put here as well shortly after it finishes. I also couldn't tell you how many Android Central posts I've found linked on these forums.

brian_hoffman said:
I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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It is against the rules to link to a site where you are required to register to download. You don't for the ACS site, so it doesn't break any rules.

Shabby is the man!
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pyrostic said:
Not trying to break rules. I'm just trying to help. I'm sure it will be put here as well shortly after it finishes. I also couldn't tell you how many Android Central posts I've found linked on these forums.
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I think you are good since you don't need to sign up and buy anything
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^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.

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^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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Yeah, and it definitely makes me want to step my game up when it comes to development
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shabbypenguin said:
^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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Shabby,
I will put my money where my mouth is, I really appreciate it. Im going to look for a donate link on your site. (couldn't find one, so I will click on some ads)
Like I said earlier, wasn't sure if it broke rules or not. I just appreciate all your devs work and do not want this to become another epic 4g.

dont go donating yet its a bad habit to start. if you wanna donate, t hen donate if your satisfied with teh final product

Do people usually create threads proclaiming they've achieved root BEFORE they've actually achieved a distributable root? Been refreshing the "GOT ROOT!" thread all day, and now following Shabby's quest in IRC. Kind of funny. Not trying to knock anyone, but damn they keep getting my hopes up!

Seriously...this does nothing for anyone yet because there are no drivers at all.
*Goes to little black book to contact Samsung source*

enormous said:
Do people usually create threads proclaiming they've achieved root BEFORE they've actually achieved a distributable root? Been refreshing the "GOT ROOT!" thread all day, and now following Shabby's quest in IRC. Kind of funny. Not trying to knock anyone, but damn they keep getting my hopes up!
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hey now, i didnt make the thread

shabbypenguin said:
hey now, i didnt make the thread
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No, not this one!

Bubby working on our phone? Seems not.

We had a bounty for bubby to get the money to buy our phone. And I remember there was one guy who (was awesome!!) donated over $200 as well as gave bubby a computer for him to work on.
I have been following bubby on his twitter and it doesn't seem that he's working on our phone. He's working every day but just not on our phone, not at all.
But, by simply looking at his twitter it's not entirely clear whether he is or not working on our phone. I hope it's just me that read it wrong.
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Several people confirmed that he's working on his Epic 4G Touch, not our phone. He has not posted a single twit regarding anything he has done / is doing / is considering doing for our phone. He has not been responding to my questions on twitter, and people have been saying he either dance around when asked about our phone or not respond at all.
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I know the concept that a donation is a donation and is not like you are paying for something, but...
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While he has not developed a thing for any phone other than his own Epic 4G Touch, he has been asking for donation for numerous other phones. We should probably interfere and refer the people in other forums (potential victims) to this thread.
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Just a thought, whoever donated, are you able to charge it back through your credit card company with a reason of "service not delivered"? If you are lucky maybe you can get your money back? I know it's a "donation" but bubby did promise in the bounty thread to deliver lots of stuff, he even said he already got ICS booted etc and played us with "here's a bunch of goodies coming up from me just donate to me and stay tuned" ****.

If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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Lmao, how pathetic.
Hard lesson learned for those involved? Sure.
Kick in the balls from his part? Absolutely.
How is that not 100% theft? Atleast fundamentally.
To the laptop owner, has he sent that back?

By looking at his twitter it's not exactly clear whether bubby is or not working on our phone. Can someone else share some opinion?

mikeyinid said:
If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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+1
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

tweak. said:
Lmao, how pathetic.
Hard lesson learned for those involved? Sure.
Kick in the balls from his part? Absolutely.
How is that not 100% theft? Atleast fundamentally.
To the laptop owner, has he sent that back?
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Maybe he hasn't got around to work on our phone yet I hope?

mikeyinid said:
If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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Sorry for my ignorance but what's the answer to my question? Can you please spell it our explicitly for me?

We have the same info as you, dude.
The thread you referenced: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318854&page=8
And his Twitter. Ask him directly for a 'better answer' but, I think he's made it pretty clear he doesn't know wtf he's doing.
Thread question answered.

Wow.....well I think this is pretty messed up....
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wow this guys gone, he just got a free laptop and a brand new samsung galaxy s2.

an undesrieable leech...
Its sad but truthfully some can be misleading as we all know. What is done here is in fun hobby and practice...to donate is great and needed....but only after said item has been created...
Moral wise...f ya its wrong and ill never support his present or future work.
Reality .... he probably cares less and can only verbally be punished....I think much more in order such as ban of account or other....
To mislead and not give up what was given....well some can be gutter trash here but hopefully not to long........

513263337 said:
We had a bounty for bubby to have our phone. And I remember there was one guy who (was awesome!!) donated over $200 as well as gave bubby a computer for him to work on.
I have been following bubby on his twitter. It doesn't seem that he's working on our phone. He's working hard every day for sure but just not on our phone, not at all.
But, by simply looking at his twitter it's not entirely clear whether he is or not working on our phone. I hope it's me that read it wrong.
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He is not working on our phone... He is working on his personal device Epic 4G Touch
I know... Sucks

its not the first time he does this, maybe you guys should've checked this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926461&page=2

mickeycobra04 said:
its not the first time he does this, maybe you guys should've checked this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926461&page=2
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Wow. I'm definitely glad that I didn't donate. I'd only donate to devs that I can vouch for, like Faux, Slayher, etc. Hopefully Bubby didn't violate any of you guys who has donated. Maybe he's working on something big.
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I brought this up in his bounty thread and everyone doubted me. Real devs can get their own phone. Simple as that. Someone should ask luckyduck or something in these forums; claimed to be his "tester".
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I think its effed up especially after just reading what mickeycobra04 posted about other thread. **** is nuts well deja vu if u wanna get technical. And the crazy part is right when the s2 came out he made stock kernel tar the stock recovery and i think a few other things. He basically reeled everybody in so they would know he wasnt just a nobody and could develop a little then he says cm, ics, asop and that rite there was like music to our ears so we start donating and he stays active. Then after some time he gets his phone and a laptop! And posted like 2 times since. Now i know everyone has lives and **** like that but cmon bro its been a month maybe a little less. Bring something to the table man it aint cool.

513263337 said:
Sorry for my ignorance but what's the answer to my question? Can you please spell it our explicitly for me?
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at the risk of being a **** to a 15 year old kid, let me try to help you understand. if you go over to the fascinate/continuum forums and ask them about bubby, you will hear nothing good about the kid. he has been making promises to android users for a while now, and RARELY coming through with anything more than a system dump or a stock kernel here and there. i know its said that donating with expectations isnt donating, but in the android community, why do people donate? we want to see someone make **** happen. well, this kid is a talker and not a doer. i donated to help get roman his gs2, i was rewarded with jugs(kernel), and juggernaut(rom). in the future, people should do a little more research before they dive in and give a person(15 year old kid) money for a phone, or a laptop.

He is in the skyrocket forums asking for donations also. I hate to say it but I seriously think he is in the wind folks. Its sad because this will prevent people from donating to serious developers. I have a corporate T-mo account and we got 25 galaxy s2's as a promo and he begged me for one of them and I was very close to sending him one in the beginning but thank god my very smart wife told me I'd be crazy to send some kid that I dont know from adam a 600 dollar phone. Well live and learn and just hope that maybe he will still come thru. But not looking to likely. Hell team kang has released 3 roms since Bubby supposedly got his phone.

bhowanidin said:
I brought this up in his bounty thread and everyone doubted me. Real devs can get their own phone. Simple as that. Someone should ask luckyduck or something in these forums; claimed to be his "tester".
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bubby wont use a tester on anything "valuable". hes a gloryhound. everyone should follow his tweeter and see his ridiculous tweets. its comedy.
http://twitter.com/#!/bubby323xda

I think that those that whove donated should bomb the Skyrocket, Epic and whatever else thread Bubby frequents towards get the message across. Post the links of these threads that shows proof of Bubby not delivering what he claim he'd deliver and maybe he'll answer.
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[Q] CM9

I'm not asking for a date just wondering how it is coming along and how close are we to nightly's. I'm starting to Jones, its been almost 3 months since I flashed anything........

siris420 said:
I'm not asking for a date just wondering how it is coming along and how close are we to nightly's. I'm starting to Jones, its been almost 3 months since I flashed anything........
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Same here, but you are going to get flammed for asking this. lol.
It has gotta be close though. Other phones have nightlies already.

This is how far its gone > http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=supersonic

Is it coming soon ?
*noob confused with all that code
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The first rule of CM is NOT TO ASK! It will come when it comes.
Besides the camera and wifi wont work until HTC releases the drivers for them or someone writes new drivers for them. Both of which wont be any time soon.

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Is it coming soon ?
*noob confused with all that code
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Undetermined; just shows all the changes made to the rom. It'll be released when its done...just have to check it periodically. You'll know when, because it'll be all over xda.

Not asking for a release date just info about the Rom, and more than anything whether or not there will be an open beta. The camera and WiFi are non issue with me and hell we had broken WiMax and hw004 camera issues for almost 8 months with 7, but there were still nightlies.

Wth am I looking at on that post lol. I was dur when I saw all that. Is that a change log of the future lol.
cowboy up

Ics is cm9 for evo 4g pretty much if you think about it.
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CM9 will come when it comes. There are plenty of 4.0.1/4.0.3 builds in the dev area to hold you over and many of these development are working from/with/are part of the CM9 code. If you were in Fight Club would you talk about Fight Club? DON'T ASK, DON'T WONDER...if anything it makes devs irritated that people are violating the imposed rules.
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I think we all want to know when CM9 will come out... but if you do at least a little searching you will know that they are not updating with progress. CM devs don't really like to be bugged about progress. Like someone else said, first rule is not to ask lol.

Yeah, but the rule is "Don't ask for an ETA.". OP said very clearly in his post that he's not looking for a date. I believe he was hoping to read about some of the progress, at least thats how I read it. Also comparing Cyanogenmod with Fight Club is not really a fair comparison as Cyanogenmod doesn't hide and ask that no one tell anyone about the CM builds. Besides all that, this post was answered with a link to the progress page in the third post.

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Yeah, but the rule is "Don't ask for an ETA.". OP said very clearly in his post that he's not looking for a date. I believe he was hoping to read about some of the progress, at least thats how I read it. Also comparing Cyanogenmod with Fight Club is not really a fair comparison as Cyanogenmod doesn't hide and ask that no one tell anyone about the CM builds. Besides all that, this post was answered with a link to the progress page in the third post.
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All I get there is "Yahoo API is down, please try about five minutes later."
I'm also curious about the current state of CM9 for the EVO, mostly so that I can know if it's worth the effort to attempt to build myself or not. I'm surprised I haven't seen any CM9 kangs floating around.

People need to chill the **** out on the "don't ask for ETAs" thing. People get curious, relax. Zero news makes it seem like a project or a device is abandoned. A weekly or monthly "still working on it" update is totally acceptable, but when the last we heard about anything was months and months ago, we get antsy. I know nobody owes me anything. But if you want me to give a ****, don't be a big crybaby when we wonder what you're doing. It only means that we like what you do, don't bite the hand that (kind of) feeds you.
This message is not directed at anyone in particular; mostly the zealot followers who like to regurgitate "the rules."

Evo = July 2012 now stfu ans stop asking learn to search or make some friends on the inside
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|>>PETITION<<| Restore task650's 'Recognized Developer' Status

So I've decided to start this thread because I've noticed something that I want to try and get changed for the better of this community and to help a person that I think deserves it.
What I'm trying to acomplish here is to start a petition that could potentially get him his status back. He deserves it in my opinion. And for the most part, I think you guys might too. So just place your vote in the pole and try and concentrate on all the work he produces for use and his attitude NOW. Please don't hold on to those grudges if you have any. Thanks.
I just noticed that one of are very Recognized Developers here on XDA (Task650) has recently lost his "Recognized Developer" status. So I decided to take it upon myself to find out why. Task650 explained to me that he recently flew off the handle and went on a "noob hunting spree" as he stated. He openly admitted to me that he was wrong for doing so and mentioned that he felt bad about it. Then went on to tell me that he has just forgotten about it and moved on with doing his best to better the SGS3 Forums and XDA as a whole. It was pretty cool to hear.
I know that he has been dealing with some pretty hardcore emotional issues with his 6 year old little girl having cancer. I can understand that sometimes we go through things in life that are that horrible, and we as human beings can act out in certain places that we normally would not. It's just something that happens and we move on from it. I can see that that's exactly what he has done. His attitude around these forums is back on track with what I've known from him and I only see him contributing and helping everyone out here on XDA as much as he possibly can. I don't think I've ever seen anyone here spend so much time updating his roms, submitting patches, and responding to others in such a helpful manner like I've seen him do. Now that's the exact type of person I believe deserves a "Recognized Developer" status. Hopefully the majority of you will agree whether or not you hold a grudge against him. I know he doesn't hold a grudge against any of you.
I DO NOT WANT ANY TROLLING OR FLAMING IN THIS THREAD! IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY. DON'T POST HERE! YOU WILL BE REPORTED IMMEDIATELY IF YOU DO!!!

Freaking out every once in a while doesn't make him less a developer or take away his skill and generosity of time and effort.
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I agree with everything you just said.
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Everyone goes through tough times and it shows that by owning up to what happened and why and accepting resposibility, then moving on to make things better overall shows he deserves the status back.

I fuxx wit the boiii!!!!! He got dat "celebrity status" roun here...
Cuttn up the bud on my SAMSUNG GALAXY S3.... #KeepIt1Hunid

I agree. He's a fantastic developer, puts out a very high quality ROM; and frankly, if he comes off a bit harsh... its probably something you should have googled. I've learned a ton, just from lurking his thread and asking the occasional question. Development software is essentially beta/testing software, so if you're going to run it... learn.
I flashed half a dozen ROMs to this device before I tried theirs, and now my only flash is for the latest update, which is routinely put out more frequently than any other aosp ROM I've seen.
Task is involved, interested, and more proactive than any paid developer I've ever known, on any platform... and he does gorgeous work for free. Its impossible not to recognize him as a developer, no matter what his title in the forum is.
Edit: didn't know about his kid either.... now I like the guy even more.
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+1. I just started flashing a month ago and Task 14 was my first rom. Great dev, great support, just a reasonable straight up dude. Thanks Task...you deserve it, for simply releasing quality work! Past is the past, simple as that
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He's a great dev and he is only following and enforcing the no spoon feed and always search rule
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I've seen plenty of other developers on XDA and other forums get fed up when people don't search or decide to get an attitude because something isn't working for them or they don't get the response they wanted. Some have even left XDA because of stuff like this. Totally unnecessary. Imagine what this world would be like without Task. Very, very dark. He's only human, most of us wouldn't have half the restraint he does.

Hopefully he'd just start his own site and carry on. We need him more than he needs us.... he's just sharing something great he did for his own satisfaction.
The guy that made my HTC merge bearable till my uscc contract was up did just that.

+1 Task makes the best ROM I've ever used on 5 devices. Amazing guy.
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Task is human.... OK, maybe superhuman, but we all get tired of out of control noobs wallowing in their laziness and/or ineptitude on these forums, asking the same old questions and not reading the OP. I myself am a noob around here, but developers, mods, and fellow xda-ers who chastise those who fail to follow forum rules have helped me realize it's better to do my own homework. I've seen Task's etiquette improve since the incident on the SGS3 AOKP thread, so it's safe to say he is truly sorry and deserves to have his "recognized developer"status reinstated.
And BTW, unicorns dream of Task's ROMs!
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lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to? Good ROMs, quick updates.

I'm 100% with Task.
He could overreact a little bit once but there are some users that push it hard. Push it really hard!!!

122ninjas said:
He's a great dev and he is only following and enforcing the no spoon feed and always search rule
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Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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hallo13th said:
lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to?
Good ROMs, quick updates.
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yeah i think i remember something like that. it was kinda funny considering everyone ended up voted that the OP of that thread get banned. lmao.
is there any particular reason you decided to vote NO?

Part of the rules and he broke them, I think he will get his status back in due time. Good Luck

Jirv311 said:
Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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wurd

ok so i work hard too and we might get 1000 noobs in our thread too, you don't see me or anyone of us freaking out. im sorry but yeah things happen in life and mistakes are made, it doesn't mean you dictate what xda will do or will not do. im not against humanity or wheel of life, but if you are short tempered then let the mods do the job, you don't freak out bluntly on a thread like that. Im with what xda decides best. If you really care for him then help him with his work make his life easier, learn things that are done, fix things that can be fixed by yourself and if its a last resort you can raise a question and then if you get freaked out upon then im sorry that dev is either short tempered or life is not being right with him/her, but then again if life is not being right then don't create a UFC in xda cause it'll just splatter blood everywhere and it just doesn't make sense then to do anything. Ive made mistakes too here and yeah i'll admit i was infracted 5 times and yet i learned from those infractions and i learned to control my temper and learn from mistakes and move on. Xda did what they did for a reason and let them decide what they did is right for community and for everyone's well being, if he doesn't have a title of "recognized developer it won't stop him from doing his work. Also for cluttering threads to create a petition doesn't make anyone better, if you wanna voice your opinion then message the mods directly and if mods don't respond then go step above mods to senior mods and so forth. Also if you're planning to bash me because what i said isn't something what you wanna hear or look at then please don't bother because it won't change me, im gonna do my work, and i'll be here at xda everyday and i'll still be living. just my 2 cents.