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I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
Checkout this thread to see if the gsiff_daemon is your problem. tl;dr when the system is hot and tearing through the battery, go to system settings -> Developer options -> and check Show CPU usage. If gsiff_daemon is the top or second highest on the list, then that is your problem. To solve it for the moment, use system tuner, or something else, to kill gsiff_daemon. There is no permanent cure at the moment, other than to delete gsiff_daemon. Both of those fixes require root, the non-root fix is to reboot.
If gsiff_daemon is not on the list, then something else is the problem, but Show CPU Usage should give you an idea of what system process is running hard.
Samsung Push problem
J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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J M L,
Thanks for the information. I'll do that if the problem arises again. However I also did something else that looks like it may have been the solution for my particular problem, which was disabling the "Samsung Push" service in the Application Manager. So far, my battery life has gone back down to very reasonable levels.
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Interesting, I installed "micro cpu monitor" shows thin line at top of screen showing both cores.
I haven't had this happen for some time now but after playing with google play and maps downloading offline maps etc I noticed my 2nd core pegged out.
Having seen this in the past & ignoring it I now realize that majorly drains the battery as well as it getting warm.
A simple reboot seems to be the only thing that fixes it. Clearing ram and closing recent screens dies nothing to clear the "cpu jam".
If left alone, it always shows the culprit as "android system"
As to what part of "android system" I don't know.
But until we figure this out for good, that little micro cpu monitor. App is sweet for peace of mind to know all is well or whether a reboot is needed. For what it's worth, I also noticed that after the event, that my auto rotate to landscape was mysteriously unchecked?
If it jams again, I'll have to see if it gets unchecked again, unknown if there is a relation.
dansushi said:
I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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That happened to me too. But for me, flashing another rom fixed it.
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Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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Thread hijack! Lol. Anyways. Is cell standby supposed to use up a crap load of battery too?
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No there is a cwm flashable fix floating around here for that
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do any of you guys have the "increase volume in pocket" setting on in phone-->settings?
also do any of you have motion settings enabled and/or autorotation on?
Seems it has to do with the gyro issue
also are you guys rooted or non-rooted?
Contact sync?
i noticed this today and while troubleshooting, noticed contact sync from google says "sync is currently experiencing problems..." maybe?
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I'm having a problem with my Samsung Galaxy S3 (rooted, but no custom ROM) through AT&T where it's losing battery power at a much higher rate than normal every once in a while.
Specifically, today, I was using the GPS feature and charging it in my car, and yet, even though it said it was charging, the battery continued to lose charge. Also, in the past, the phone has lost charge very quickly, and when I check the battery usage, "Android System" is very high on the list, up to 60% (with "Screen" being at 11%, which is usually the biggest culprit for me since I leave the screen on a lot). One time, I went to bed at around midnight and had forgotten to plug in my phone. When I woke up it was off. I turned it back on and looked at the battery stats using 3c's Battery Monitor Widget and saw that it lost charge quite slowly until about 5am, when suddenly the usage went up dramatically, and the phone went from about 60% to 0% in the course of an hour and a half of non-use.
Because this is not a problem I can reproduce on command, I'm not sure exactly what application/process is causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or has anyone else experienced things like this happening before? (Besides me having to pay for the "betterbatterystats" app?)
Edit: Also, "Android System" sometimes is sometimes listed as "gsiff_daemon" in the battery stats, and within 3c's Battery Monitor Widget, Android System is separate from "gsiff_daemon", where gsiff_daemon's usage is almost 15 times the usage of Android System.
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I read the thread about gsiff_daemon culprit. I had it listed as a possible battery drain culprit. The thread says the issue may happen after a hot reboot...which I did have. Killing gsiff_daemon was not immediately effective. I renamed the file so it wouldn't get used...like the thread recommended. I had to reboot to get normal battery drain back and have yet to see the issue again. But i wont know for some time...or maybe when/if i get a hot reboot...which is really rare. Do yourself a favor, and buy better battery stats. Its a must have tool...and it's not expensive.
I wonder if this problem has been solved with latest lj7 jellybean from sprint
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so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
eatonjb said:
so with some trial and error i found some resolutions ..
first, i used Watchdog and it told me that the media services is killing battery too.
so doing a full wipe does not always fix this.. but what does, is reboot and wait about 1 hour charging and it will calm down. this was just something i noticed. so what i did is wipe out my SD cards, both of them, cleared them out 100% formatted the External SD, and used recovery to format the internal. From there it seem to work, i put my stuff back, and it seems ok.
problem is, when you install a lot of rom's and have bad reboots some files get messed up and you have to do it all over again..
problem was with AOPK, CM and TW roms.
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My experience with froyo/gb/ics is that things have been getting progressively better over the years. But with each so called UPGRADE of an OS or even APPS, we often have to deal with bugs or incompatibilities. I am eager to upgrade to a stock based JB soon, but wisdom says, for 20 things improved, there will be 5 things broken....or hurting in some way. Early adopters suffer the most as usually these issues get ironed out...most of them.
BUT...these stuck drains...wake locks etc., it seems they will happen when they do no matter how many issues get fixed. Over the years, I've had random standby drains caused by Maps/Nav. Maybe it's ok for months, then after a particular update, it's back...and unpredictable. The YES...a reboot, just like with a PC, is a quick short term workaround.
Finally, with the App CURRENT WIDGET, there is a provision to watch for high drain in standby. It watches MilliAmp (ma) readings over time..to determine if you have a rogue drain. That's different than monitoring the CPU. (Some drains do not cause much CPU activity) BUT UNFORTUNATELY, that app won't work with our S3's because of a lack of hardware support. Works great with HTC and many others. It's a bummer because I used to use it and have my HD2 reboot if a 15min consecutive high drain was recorded in standby....thereby saving the battery and usually killing the bug.
Crapppp
Jellybean didn’t solve it. Gsiff_daemon just popped up for me. Just renamed it AGAIN.
Hopefully it won't pop up again
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im on a stock rom not rooted and new battery and old battery both discharge really fast. Totally dead in 5-6hrs light use. Im guessing there is a hardware issue with the phone as this isnt normal. Any ideas?
lets see I did a factory reset after Jellybean update
changed the battery for a new one
biggest power drain is showing up as screen 33-39%
I have the thing on power saving mode and mobile data I turn off when not in use.
only thing I can think of that I didnt try is flashing another radio. But I doubt thats it because ive put it in airplane mode and it still looses power fast.
craig198 said:
im on a stock rom not rooted and new battery and old battery both discharge really fast. Totally dead in 5-6hrs light use. Im guessing there is a hardware issue with the phone as this isnt normal. Any ideas?
lets see I did a factory reset after Jellybean update
changed the battery for a new one
biggest power drain is showing up as screen 33-39%
I have the thing on power saving mode and mobile data I turn off when not in use.
only thing I can think of that I didnt try is flashing another radio. But I doubt thats it because ive put it in airplane mode and it still looses power fast.
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Get Better Battery Stats and check your wake locks. A lot of information in that thread. Might have a rogue app draining you.
Edit: also screen on is always going to be your biggest drain. Keep brightness down as much as you can. App called screen filter is good for achieving lower brightness than system allows. You could try the ktoonsz kernel, undervolted as well. Turning off sounds in settings (key press, vibrate, etc as well). Toggle data and WiFi when not using. These are just some basic suggestions.
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This is my second s3 and the first one never had a problem going 10-12 hrs normal use. Im thinking it is a hardware issue as I did a factory reset and it still persists on fast draining.
Edit.. I just disable google talk maybe that was causing it?
It's not Google Talk. Check your battery and it'll show you what's drainage ng it the most. Also check screen brightness
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Benconquerer said:
It's not Google Talk. Check your battery and it'll show you what's drainage ng it the most. Also check screen brightness
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well after the screen 40% we have android OS @ lower 30%
Do you have an SD-Card in?
I was getting the same battery life, took out my SD-Card, and I'm getting 7 hours on screen time with stock battery.
andybones said:
Do you have an SD-Card in?
I was getting the same battery life, took out my SD-Card, and I'm getting 7 hours on screen time with stock battery.
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lol sd card?? well I tried it anyway and no, it still drains like a pissing racehorse. Ive noticed this phone gets pretty warm sometimes even with light use. Im not sure what is causing this but must be a factor in why the battery life is so poor. When I talk on phone, not very often, the ear piece actually gets hot. Im gonna send this puppy to samsung and see what they can do.
GSam Battery Monitor can offer better details about your battery usage, including wakelocks, cpu usage, etc.. It's more detailed than what Android offers.
I'd also recommend using an AOSP based rom as they include out any carrier/Samsung services that may adversely affect your battery life, particularly in a fringe coverage area or with many sync and push items. I'd also stay away from powersave mode for the time being.
If you want to know for sure, I'd do something like this:
- update PRL on current rom
- wipe and format everything in CWM
- flash rom as per developer suggestions
- wipe battery stats
- boot and do not sign in with your Google account (very important!)
- do not install or restore any apps
- turn off auto-sync and leave data on
- enable auto brightness
- confirm that phone signal is somewhere between -50 and -90dbm
- turn off phone and charge overnight
- turn on in the morning and use normally for the day
- install GSAM if issues persist
Please post back with updates.
It could be a hardware problem also you know.... if something ground off in the phone then the battery will drain faster than anything....I had a n96 with a grounded problem and it use to dead in 4 hrs....
I have owned this phone for about 3 days, but I have some battery issues.
I attached 3 pictures, and on the first picture, you can see there appears to be no wakelocks, but on the 2nd picture, the Android OS used the vast majority of my battery life, and the 3rd picture, Android System has a lot of "Wake Up Device" (i don't know what the number means is it minutes?)..
I have uninstalled/disabled most of the apps I don't need, and have the brightness set to low, and on airplane mode with all sync off, and zenmotion turned off, and this still happens. I lost about 11% battery overnight with this problem. It seems like when I am using the device, the battery drops a percent every minute even when I am just scrolling through the Settings.
I only used about 1 hour screentime on this phone and the rest on idle.
I already installed both system updates.
Does anyone know why this happens? I know there is a memory leak problem, but I saw on another thread other people don't have that bad of a drain anymore...
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I have owned this phone for about 3 days, but I have some battery issues.
I attached 3 pictures, and on the first picture, you can see there appears to be no wakelocks, but on the 2nd picture, the Android OS used the vast majority of my battery life, and the 3rd picture, Android System has a lot of "Wake Up Device" (i don't know what the number means is it minutes?)..
I have uninstalled/disabled most of the apps I don't need, and have the brightness set to low, and on airplane mode with all sync off, and zenmotion turned off, and this still happens. I lost about 11% battery overnight with this problem. It seems like when I am using the device, the battery drops a percent every minute even when I am just scrolling through the Settings.
I only used about 1 hour screentime on this phone and the rest on idle.
I already installed both system updates.
Does anyone know why this happens? I know there is a memory leak problem, but I saw on another thread other people don't have that bad of a drain anymore...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3122883
For battery draining assistance see ZenUI app called ASUS Support: Apps/ASUS Support/Assistance/Battery/Battery drains fast/follow detailed troubleshooting steps. If battery still draining, recommend updating to latest firmware version and then performing a factory data reset. Please ensure to back up all important data as this will erase all data.
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ASUS_USA
Mine seemed fine for a week and then I got this today. Pretty much done with it. Can't even get it to factory reset.
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For battery draining assistance see ZenUI app called ASUS Support: Apps/ASUS Support/Assistance/Battery/Battery drains fast/follow detailed troubleshooting steps. If battery still draining, recommend updating to latest firmware version and then performing a factory data reset. Please ensure to back up all important data as this will erase all data.
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ASUS_USA
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Keep it simple, use a dumb phone?
Posted using my phone.
Umm do I have good battery?
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Asus_USA said:
For battery draining assistance see ZenUI app called ASUS Support: Apps/ASUS Support/Assistance/Battery/Battery drains fast/follow detailed troubleshooting steps. If battery still draining, recommend updating to latest firmware version and then performing a factory data reset. Please ensure to back up all important data as this will erase all data.
Sincerely
ASUS_USA
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Create update to resolve the problem .
And respected customers. We do what you suggest.
Enough!!!!!!!!! The Problem is lollipop and asus software.
Find solutions, I don't tell @€&@'@#
Its most likely anddriod memory leak which is fized on 5.1
I have zenfone 2 and at the 1st week the battery drained very fast but then after I Updated all the aps of Zen Ui i noticed improvements to my battety life. go to settings and go to zen ui instnt update and update all the apps. now im using my zenfone 2 whole day surfing from 9am to 7pm and i still have 30% battery hope it works for you too. try it
hello guys i am getting screen on time of mere 2 hours without any significant use on my ZF 2.... i have stock rom. no root nothing.... can anybody help me
Battery drain issue still not fixed with updates???
Disable PC Link and Party Link default apps, worked for me. They're default apps using cpu all the time like they're SO Android... Disable all default apps that you don't use too
I've got here two brand new models, which differ only for touch and battery version (Z2C3 01040005 1525 and ... 1526)
The 1526 doesn't show any drain. The 1525 does, as of its very first boot. I tried keeping same settings of course.
I'd like to point out that when connected and charging it shows big steps like going from 63 to 72% and it also reaches 100% in less than 60 mins.
When disconnected the discharge path exhibits about 1:15min of operation.
May I suspect the battery is defective?
PS: after a factory reset from recovery seems have fixed the problem for now at least...
Asus Zen phone 2 laser battery drain ?
I made an account with this website and took the time to write this, so I can let users who own this phone know one of the
biggest battery drain features I've found......DISABLE HOMESCREEN APP MOVEMENT SENSOR, in app icon settings.
When you tilt your phone app icon adjust to the tilt, yes looks cool until you realize how much battery you could save by leaving then static and not constantly running a fDucking tilt sensor.
hello，my zenfone ze551ml might be going to upgrade to mm 6.0， please tell me is it marshmallow stock rom camera better than 5.0？ is it 6.0 have setting sd card become internal storage？ is it 6.0 have mass big storage not just mtp when connected to pc ？
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I was wondering if anybody else had this issue or had any suggestions.
Battery life is normally great on the tablet, except every once and a while it gets stuck awake overnight. There doesn't seem to be a 3rd party app that is holding it awake, as Android system and OS is what's using most of the battery.
As you can see in the screenshot, Doze works fine and barely any better is drained, I used it briefly, came home from work and half the battery had been drained.
Thanks for the help
Not sure if it's normal but mine does the same.
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I've seen a 30ish % drain sitting overnight a couple of times over the past 2 weeks. Can't seem to find a rhyme or reason for it.
I can't imagine it being "normal" since, with Wifi set to off while sleeping that the device should drain that much.
It's odd and happens randomly, I'm on the same page as you bluestang.
It happened to me once, at night it wastes a 15% battery.
I changed in wifi advance options to not maintain WiFi always awake, only in charge.
sabisavi said:
It happened to me once, at night it wastes a 15% battery.
I changed in wifi advance options to not maintain WiFi always awake, only in charge.
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That's the setup I have though - so I get no notifications or anything when it's not on. Yet something is still keeping the device up.
I have *exactly* the same problem with an all new device, and with nothing but a game installed on it. After a reboot, if I let the Pixel C right there for a night, then it only drains ~3/4%.
Then I play the only game I have for 5 minutes, and let the device again for a night => it now wastes a 20% battery!
No idea what's going on... "Android OS" appears first in the list of app, but this does not help me so much to find what is actually happening...
The issue still appears even after a full reset of the system (I'v tried, without success).
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I have *exactly* the same problem with an all new device, and with nothing but a game installed on it. After a reboot, if I let the Pixel C right there for a night, then it only drains ~3/4%.
Then I play the only game I have for 5 minutes, and let the device again for a night => it now wastes a 20% battery!
No idea what's going on... "Android OS" appears first in the list of app, but this does not help me so much to find what is actually happening...
The issue still appears even after a full reset of the system (I'v tried, without success).
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Exactly. If I reboot the device and let it sit, doze works fine, the second I open an app, use it and put the tablet down, something hangs and keeps it awake. Always Android OS that is keeping it awake as well...
I have this issue too. Are you guys on xceed Kernel?
Whats really interesting even better battery stats Shows no culprit.
I'm on the stock-just-reset-again last version of the system.
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I have this issue too. Are you guys on xceed Kernel?
Whats really interesting even better battery stats Shows no culprit.
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I'm on stock - not even rooted
I'm on stock MM here as well.
Also, not sure if it a coincidence or not, but I changed this and haven't seen overnight battery drops anymore. In Settings>Location I changed the Mode from High accuracy to Battery saving. Since the Pixel C doesn't have GPS device, then why use it.
Like I said, not sure if it a coincidence, but battery life has been great overnight since.
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I'm on stock MM here as well.
Also, not sure if it a coincidence or not, but I changed this and haven't seen overnight battery drops anymore. In Settings>Location I changed the Mode from High accuracy to Battery saving. Since the Pixel C doesn't have GPS device, then why use it.
Like I said, not sure if it a coincidence, but battery life has been great overnight since.
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So last night, I rebooted before I went to sleep, but overnight the battery drained from 85% down to 57% in about 8 hours.
I decided to check my location settings as per your post and found it was set to high accuracy, so I changed it to "Battery Saving".
I did nothing else(no reboot) until I checked my battery now about 3 hours later, it has only dropped by a further 2%.
Looking at "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" history statistics, it is clear to see that overnight the battery was draining considerably more.
It takes readings every 10 minutes and was showing between 450 and 275 mA being used every 10 minutes overnight.
Since I changed the location settings, most of the time it is 15mA with occasional jumps up to a max of 297mA.
Although this could not be classed as conclusive proof, it does seem to have had an effect, I will keep monitoring it to see how it goes.
Yep, I change that setting on the 19th or 20th and haven't seen any major drains overnight.
I think I may have found a winner with that little tweak
So far so good for me too. I don't know if it is related to the GPS settings, but no more inconsistent major drains so far.
if location services is on it can drain a good deal
Just to add that I had exactly the same issue on stock 7.1.2, tablet was staying awake and draining. Reduced location precision and now only a 2% drain during an 8 hour sleep which is a massive improvement.
My battery will completely drain after <10 hours while the screen is off!
However I was able to find out thatquickgooglesearchbar is always the top app.
Those screenshots are a bit old but it's still the same thing, I did manage to root it today, and I was testing Greenify which did nothing even with the Xposed modules, service disabler apps just did not show that specific service for some reason. I was able to remove the widget with Xposed GEL settings but it was still running even though the widget wasn't there.
So can someone please help me out here, maybe the search bar isn't the problem but I just want some battery life.
h ttp://imgur.com/a/gdXKW
(I still can't post links sorry If this is against your forum rules but this is urgent)
Eidoss said:
My battery will completely drain after <10 hours while the screen is off!
However I was able to find out thatquickgooglesearchbar is always the top app.
Those screenshots are a bit old but it's still the same thing, I did manage to root it today, and I was testing Greenify which did nothing even with the Xposed modules, service disabler apps just did not show that specific service for some reason. I was able to remove the widget with Xposed GEL settings but it was still running even though the widget wasn't there.
So can someone please help me out here, maybe the search bar isn't the problem but I just want some battery life.
h ttp://imgur.com/a/gdXKW
(I still can't post links sorry If this is against your forum rules but this is urgent)
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search and install betterbatterystats (read the whole first post) and it will tell you if its wakelocks etc.
Service disabler apps will need a setting to show system apps (or something similar) ticked or switched to etc.
greenify system apps in greenify also needs to be selected. You may also need to cut wake up paths to get it to stay greenified.
You could alternatively delete the apk of hibernate it (byfar the easiest option of all this).
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search and install betterbatterystats (read the whole first post) and it will tell you if its wakelocks etc.
Service disabler apps will need a setting to show system apps (or something similar) ticked or switched to etc.
greenify system apps in greenify also needs to be selected. You may also need to cut wake up paths to get it to stay greenified.
You could alternatively delete the apk of hibernate it (byfar the easiest option of all this).
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I don't need betterbatterystats, I have battery Battery Historian, check the screenshots, It's clearly the search bar, on my other phone It isn't shown as a top app.
Also I went in the system folder /apps and there was no googlesearchbar, or in any other system apk remover tool, perhaps it was removed by another app, but it's still for some reason running.
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I don't need betterbatterystats, I have battery Battery Historian, check the screenshots, It's clearly the search bar, on my other phone It isn't shown as a top app.
Also I went in the system folder /apps and there was no googlesearchbar, or in any other system apk remover tool, perhaps it was removed by another app, but it's still for some reason running.
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Your 3rd image shows googlequicksearchbox had 370ms (milliseconds) of wakelocks over a 9hr period. I really doubt that is your issue.
If it is your top app, then it is probably because of Google Now launcher listening for OK Google spoken keyword.
I seriously doubt that is your battery drain problem as almost 90% of people probably have OK Google turned on and are using Google Now launcher and only a very few have serious battery drain.
BTW wakelocks aren't the issue usually. In the past it has been "partial wakelocks" which means an app locked the device from sleeping, but never released the lock, so the device never goes to full sleep. If you see some app with partial wakelocks or if you see some app with hours of regular wakelocks then that might be an issue. Minutes or microseconds of wakelocks are inconsequential.
I suggest you flash factory image and install your battery tester only. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, nfc, cell radio. Test the drain overnight. That is a baseline for the minimum drain your device can have. Then enable what wireless stuff you normally have turned on. See what that drain is. Then start installing apps and see what that drain is.
If you have reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then it is just a process of elimination to see what is causing your battery drain.
If you can't get reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then you probably have a bad battery.
For the record, my overnight battery drain with everything turned off is 0-1% With wifi turned on about 1-2%. With wifi+cell about 2-3%.
IMO the biggest drains for standby are wifi and/or cell signal related. Either bad signals or apps sending data in background or apps that are polling all the time.
sfhub said:
Your 3rd image shows googlequicksearchbox had 370ms (milliseconds) of wakelocks over a 9hr period. I really doubt that is your issue.
If it is your top app, then it is probably because of Google Now launcher listening for OK Google spoken keyword.
I seriously doubt that is your battery drain problem as almost 90% of people probably have OK Google turned on and are using Google Now launcher and only a very few have serious battery drain.
BTW wakelocks aren't the issue usually. In the past it has been "partial wakelocks" which means an app locked the device from sleeping, but never released the lock, so the device never goes to full sleep. If you see some app with partial wakelocks or if you see some app with hours of regular wakelocks then that might be an issue. Minutes or microseconds of wakelocks are inconsequential.
I suggest you flash factory image and install your battery tester only. Turn off wifi, bluetooth, nfc, cell radio. Test the drain overnight. That is a baseline for the minimum drain your device can have. Then enable what wireless stuff you normally have turned on. See what that drain is. Then start installing apps and see what that drain is.
If you have reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then it is just a process of elimination to see what is causing your battery drain.
If you can't get reasonable/expected battery drain with stock and everything turned off, then you probably have a bad battery.
For the record, my overnight battery drain with everything turned off is 0-1% With wifi turned on about 1-2%. With wifi+cell about 2-3%.
IMO the biggest drains for standby are wifi and/or cell signal related. Either bad signals or apps sending data in background or apps that are polling all the time.
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Factory reset didn't do anything a few days ago, the results were exactly the same that was when my phone wasn't rooted, so I guess I should return the phone, and get a new one?
Eidoss said:
Factory reset didn't do anything a few days ago, the results were exactly the same that was when my phone wasn't rooted, so I guess I should return the phone, and get a new one?
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What is your battery drain per hour with nothing installed and all wireless turned off and everything stock?
I'd only return it if that is significantly more than 0-.2% or 1% every 5 hours.
Otherwise it is something you have installed or something to do with the signal and how it interacts with your phone.
Once you start installing stuff or turning on wireless (wifi/bt/cell) then it is no longer purely about the battery and there are more factors that need to be isolated independently.
You really need to establish a baseline to see what the minimum battery drain is. Then you can determine if the battery is the problem or something else.
If you just install everything and turn everything on, there are too many moving parts.
sfhub said:
What is your battery drain per hour with nothing installed and all wireless turned off and everything stock?
I'd only return it if that is significantly more than 0-.2% or 1% every 5 hours.
Otherwise it is something you have installed or something to do with the signal and how it interacts with your phone.
Once you start installing stuff or turning on wireless (wifi/bt/cell) then it is no longer purely about the battery and there are more factors that need to be isolated independently.
You really need to establish a baseline to see what the minimum battery drain is. Then you can determine if the battery is the problem or something else.
If you just install everything and turn everything on, there are too many moving parts.
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Okay, I now have android N, and my battery life seems to be better, I will leave mobile data off. I will see tomorrow if my battery life has changed.
Do you think I should use Adaptive brightness for more battery life?
Eidoss said:
Okay, I now have android N, and my battery life seems to be better, I will leave mobile data off. I will see tomorrow if my battery life has changed.
Do you think I should use Adaptive brightness for more battery life?
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Which battery life was the one you think you have a problem with, standby or in use? IMO for in use battery time this phone is about average. Your title of "wakelock" made it seem like you were concerned about standby battery time as it doesn't matter if there is a wakelock if the device is already turned on and in active use.
When turned on, the screen is probably the number one thing eating power, so adaptive brightness could help, but if you are in a bright area, it might be worse than if you fixed the brightness below max.
Even if you have adaptive brightness turned on, the slider scale still is useful as you give the adaptive brigthness mechanism some idea what level of brightness you feel comfortable when the mechanism detects dark, med, bright situations.
One of the worse things for eating power is for the cell radio to be turned on but have no signal, like inside office building or just a bad signal area in general. The reason is the cell radio is power efficient once it establishes signal, but when it is searching for (or loses) signal it uses a lot of power.
If you are doing a lot of disk activity like taking video or hdr pictures, it would probably help to have your userdata unencrypted as this device does software (kernel) encryption and doesn't use the fast/more power efficient co-processor.
sfhub said:
Which battery life was the one you think you have a problem with, standby or in use? IMO for in use battery time this phone is about average. Your title of "wakelock" made it seem like you were concerned about standby battery time as it doesn't matter if there is a wakelock if the device is already turned on and in active use.
When turned on, the screen is probably the number one thing eating power, so adaptive brightness could help, but if you are in a bright area, it might be worse than if you fixed the brightness below max.
Even if you have adaptive brightness turned on, the slider scale still is useful as you give the adaptive brigthness mechanism some idea what level of brightness you feel comfortable when the mechanism detects dark, med, bright situations.
One of the worse things for eating power is for the cell radio to be turned on but have no signal, like inside office building or just a bad signal area in general. The reason is the cell radio is power efficient once it establishes signal, but when it is searching for (or loses) signal it uses a lot of power.
If you are doing a lot of disk activity like taking video or hdr pictures, it would probably help to have your userdata unencrypted as this device does software (kernel) encryption and doesn't use the fast/more power efficient co-processor.
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Standby is the problem, on screen times are good enough.
Anyway, I don't even know what to do at this point. Android N didn't help enough (cell data is off), I guess I can flash Android 6.0 again and then try to fix it using apps...
What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
Eidoss said:
Standby is the problem, on screen times are good enough.
Anyway, I don't even know what to do at this point. Android N didn't help enough (cell data is off), I guess I can flash Android 6.0 again and then try to fix it using apps...
What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
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What is the power drain over a couple of hours with *no apps installed* completely stock, and wifi/cell turned off? What is the change when wifi is turned on?
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What do you suggest I should do, I'm out of ideas at this point.
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Have you set "WiFi on during sleep" to "Never"? in the Advanced WiFi settings?
In the original release, there was a bug where WiFi would stay on even if you had set it to "Never" draining battery in standby.
Somewhere between MDA89E and MHC19Q they fixed it and WiFi will go to deep sleep after being in standby for a while, but they introduced another (or exposed existing) bug where WiFi will not resume after coming out of sleep, unless you cycle WiFi off/on. So you're standby battery should be better with this setting, but it'll be a little more annoying when turning on your device.