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Hey,
I was just wondering if anyone was going to port sense for the epic now that the source code is out.
Thanks
I second this, I really want a sense port for the Epic, that would be awesome!!!!
Third here. I'd Never used a Sense UI before but i would love to try it. Looks cool
Fourth here
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lol, this is turning out to be a request thread. any more people requesting this?
The group of devs who were already in the process of porting sense to the Epic should have a much easier time, if I remember right they were going by Galaxy SENSE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826144
Galaxy Sense, not common sense, lol
Here is the link to the one I found. I hope they continue the project because sense on this device would be just plain awesome!!!!
Yes, it would be hella nice of someone to port the mytouch 4g rom to the epic too
I'd like to have Sense on my phone, as long as the widgets came with it.
im not from this forum but i really want an epic, so ive been watching. But back to my point, why to try to get the evo shift rom? just cuz its 2.2 i think, and already has kb support? is it cuz its sooo much smaller than the epic? sorry if i seem like a super noob lol
Because the Evo shift has nothing in common with the Epic from a hardware standpoint (Different processor, antenna, etc.), it would be like trying to mix Lego's and Mega Blocks
Hmmmm... which Sense ROM would be easiest to port then?????? No HTC Devices have the Hummingbird processor and totally different specs, maybe a Desire Z ROM or something similiar would be good
Everyone was saying when the froyo source came out....
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They didn't say the next day after, these things take time
do any developers want to partake in this project?
This would be a major achievement for the epic.
Thanks
my opinion, why do u want sense? Its slow on all the incredibles on custom roms and evos, Why not be more creative and use launcher pro and customize everything!
Sense and touchwiz= Bloatware!!
it is not that much slower
Its not slow at al, in fact I see no lag in sense or touchwiz roms. I've never had to wait for an application to open or ever experienced force closes. Sense is highly embedded, from widgets to applications and offers a great user friendly ui. And there's no harm done porting sense, its not like people who don't want it have to use it. You know what I mean?
Should I try requesting this in the development form? Or keep it here till a dev sees? Lol sorry if I'm annoying anyone, I really want to see a sense port
DO NOT REQUEST this in the dev forum, there is already a group working on it and nagging them won't make it happen faster, patience is a virtue.
Ok thanks, but I just want to confirm:
there really is a team already working on porting sense? Sweet!!!
Hello,
I am organizing a team of developers to port sense to the Samsung Epic. Does anyone want to help???
Please Reply to this thread if you are interested. Once we get enough developers, we will discuss what ROM we should use as a base and start working on it.
Thanks
gokuman56 said:
Hello,
I am organizing a team of developers to port sense to the Samsung Epic. Does anyone want to help???
Please Reply to this thread if you are interested. Once we get enough developers, we will discuss what ROM we should use as a base and start working on it.
Thanks
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im not sure how u would go about doing it... but feel free to put me down for helping u out if u need help.
Shouldn't this be posted in the Epic forums? Also, not to come off as an asshole, but if you wanted Sense, you should have bought an Evo.
Thanks, a bunch, I am looking for 3-5 more people to carry out the load evenly.
We will then decide what ROM should we use as a base and start the work!!!!
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Shouldn't this be posted in the Epic forums? Also, not to come off as an asshole, but if you wanted Sense, you should have bought an Evo.
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Well, I have also posted this in the Epic forums, just am looking for developers who know how to deal with sense as well, so I posted this on the Evo forums. I used to have an Evo, but switched to the Epic due to the need of a keyboard. Enough with that, are there any more developers who would like to help?
Thanks
gokuman56 said:
Well, I have also posted this in the Epic forums, just am looking for developers who know how to deal with sense as well, so I posted this on the Evo forums. I used to have an Evo, but switched to the Epic due to the need of a keyboard. Enough with that, are there any more developers who would like to help?
Thanks
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Just a thought to port the EVO shift may be good due to slide out keyboard they both have. Will be a tough port due to such different screens. I'm not too good with this but willing to try with kitchen. My wife has a epic maybe she will let me test some.
I know she wants sense on it.
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Leoisright said:
Just a thought to port the EVO shift may be good due to slide out keyboard they both have. Will be a tough port due to such different screens. I'm not too good with this but willing to try with kitchen. My wife has a epic maybe she will let me test some.
I know she wants sense on it.
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Evo Shift Rom is good, but I was thinking more Desire Z, but its not final yet, it depends on what the team decides. We will discuss everything once we get enough members. If you are willing to volunteer, please reply to the thread.
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Desire Z is a GSM phone, therefore it will have some issues like no 4G. Myn just realized Warm Z TwoPointTwo which has some issues like no 4G and no EPST. I would suggest going with the Evo Shift if you're going to port a ROM.
Ok, I will keep that in mind. Are you also helping out with the ROM or just wanted to add a suggestion?
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Everyone who wants to help can join this chatroom:
http://www.chatzy.com/405750280630
The first meeting is today, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:00
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it is a good idea..
but.. sounds like a huge mountain to climb over...
cpu, gpu, screen, and so many different hardware.. for you to redo to work.
good luck..
Am I the only one that finds it a little ironic that Epic devs are trying to get Sense while EVO devs spend their time getting rid of it?
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the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.....
women with curly hair spend thousands to straighten it..
while straight hair wome spend thousands to curle it.
and men spend thousands just to keep what they got.
Leoisright said:
Just a thought to port the EVO shift may be good due to slide out keyboard they both have. Will be a tough port due to such different screens. I'm not too good with this but willing to try with kitchen. My wife has a epic maybe she will let me test some.
I know she wants sense on it.
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The screen is the least of their concerns when porting something like this. The framework that HTC uses is completely different than Samsung. Samsung uses a different type of filesystem that might have issues with Sense, blah blah blah...
There are a million things working against porting a ROM like this. There was a Sense port for the Droid 1 at one point but it was a tremendous PITA.
I'm seeing all these ROMS with sense 2.0 that lack 4G and what not... instead of adding 4G to the rom... wouldn't it be easier to try to take sense from a rom and put it on one that already has 4G??? If this questions is dumb don't get smart lol I'm still learning when it comes to this...
I'm not a dev but I'd like to believe it is more to it than that. It's hard enough taking a rom not designed for the EVO and making it work.
gingerbread source has been released for months. and we are just now seeing the first, buggy leak for the evo. it's freaking hard to incorperate sense into a rom. takes months for a team of professional developers to do it. it's not just installing an app.
ShawnGotBANDZ said:
I'm seeing all these ROMS with sense 2.0 that lack 4G and what not... instead of adding 4G to the rom... wouldn't it be easier to try to take sense from a rom and put it on one that already has 4G??? If this questions is dumb don't get smart lol I'm still learning when it comes to this...
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The problem with roms that have newly leaked gingerbread and sense 2.0 is that htc hasn't released source codes so the devs can't get 4G and in sone cases camera to work. Give them time this is the best group of devs in the world here at xda
The G1, the original Android phone released to the public, my third or fourth cell phone, has CM7 support. It was released by HTC as Pure-Android. It has CM7 and is no longer updated by T-Mobile or HTC, but CM7 still supports it, so I was wondering how they have it without any Kernel releases and we need a Kernel, even though our phone is newer. Answers please?
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Because they know that they aren't getting anything to work with, and know that if they want it, that have to build it. We are still receiving updates, so we have to wait. What'd be the point of building our own stuff, just to get official a month later? Plus, I thought Cyanonen stated that the cyanogen team was no longer supporting the g1 after cm6?
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
People are still able to Port over CM7 to the G1 whether Cyanogen and the team support it or not. Oh and btw, your statement made no sense.
Makes sense to me. If we built our own stuff now, it would be obsolete when we get newer official updates.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Basically, they devs are keeping you happy by waiting. So much work goes into CM7 or MIUI that its not worth it to even try right now...no, they devs are not lazy. There just saving hours and HOURS of work that they don't have. It will be 1000 times easier to port any aosp build (CM7, MIUI) once we have gingerbread source. Right now its not worth the effort.
Lmao.... wtf?! Zander original just slapped you with a lightsaber lmaooooo!!!...Early mornin laugh! Gotta luv it!
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Original Android <3ers! said:
People are still able to Port over CM7 to the G1 whether Cyanogen and the team support it or not. Oh and btw, your statement made no sense.
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What doesn't make sense about that? Let's say you wanted gingerbread cookies. They take an hour to make, and you need to go buy some ingredients (lets ignore for the sake of the analogy that you could just buy gingerbread cookies while you're there), and you're not sure if the recipe is any good. So, all totaled, lets say ~2 hours, and you don't know until you're done if they'll even taste good. Now, let's say it's also the case that your wife was going to be home in 2.5-3 hours, and was bringing some leftover Gingerbread cookies someone brought into work home with her. That fact would sort of render your plan rather futile and pointless, would it not? Even if everything worked perfectly, that's a lot of effort to have cookies marginally quicker than you otherwise could have, and there's still opportunity cost of everything you COULD have been doing in that time.
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and there's still opportunity cost of everything you COULD have been doing in that time.
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like sitting on your hands waiting?
austin420 said:
like sitting on your hands waiting?
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I'm quite certain the devs don't toggle between developing for the Epic and laying in wait to develop for the epic.
In a real world sense, we're better off that they wait until it's most efficient. They can get other thing done (both Epic wise, and Honey-do list wise), catch up on all the tv they want, etc. The average dev is probably only going to devote a finite amount of their precious little time on this planet. I'd rather wait a month or two, and get a super phone, then have everyone spin their wheels for 2 months, and then quit or be burned out just in time to actually do something.
As always, if you don't like it, the SDK is open to everyone, and Java resources are everywhere.
Hello everyone.
Im a HTC Faithful and currently using an Evo 4g still. This phone is starting to show its age and im thinking of picking up a Epic Touch.
But looking at the dev section, it doesnt seem that there are that many roms in progress, let alone any updated ICS roms. There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on.
Im just wondering where all the ICS roms are. If i moved over, id prob want to stick to ICS.
Anyone move from Evo to Epic Touch and feel that there are enough roms? That its being supported as much as other HTC phones?
Any input?
Depends. The Stock Touchwiz Roms from samsung has plenty of development here. The AOSP side we just barely got a CM7/KANG that has quite a few bugs. For some those bugs arent a problem, but for me it didnt pass as a daily driver.
Also the whole Clockworkmod-fused-with-the-kernel/rom on this phone will give you a headache if this is your first time rooting a Samsung Phone.
It would be my first Samsung rooting. I have looked over the instructions and saw it's somewhat different from HTC style, but nothing I can't handle.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
No where
I see that no one has answered your main question...There are no ICS ROMs available as of right now...The deves are creating a base for it so when its possible to create one, they can implment it faster.
Uhhh. I guess the dev's are working on them.
I'd be stoked if you can work faster than they can, or pay them to work faster...
But it's not like changing a battery, there's a lot of work that goes into cooking a ROM.
They want to get CM7 complete and stable as a base to use for other Aosp roms. Samsung's official ICS for our device will have touchwiz and I think 95% of us don't want that. We need Aosp roms and kernels nailed down before we progress any further. Once the devs have a stable functional base to work from other doors will open. It takes time.
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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There may not be ICS but this is still a hell of a phone. In the market oyher than the Google phone just coming out this is the top of the line. I came from an Evo and I love it
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I think its Samsung vs HTC thing
rawdikrik said:
I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I think its more because Samsung is not releasing the source code, once they put it out our esteemed devs will bring ICS very fast. HTC is very fast about everything giving out source, update etc. I am just waiting for HTC to come with some phone which is a little bit better in specs and I am getting that. Samsung phones just looks beatifull. I want a phone that works as good and is backed up by support from the Manufacturer.
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Honestly the new Touchwiz isn't that bad. The only people making a big fat fuss over it seem to be previous HTC owners. Let me tell you, sense sucks big fat donkey balls compared to Touchwiz. I was a Go Launcher devotee prior to owning the Epic Touch. Touchwiz has proved to be ok for me.
I would still be completely happy with my day one purchase of Epic Touch even if we don't end up getting ICS until mid next year, gingerbread on this thing still flies compared to every other phone out there.
Furthermore, the OG Epic had a slow but steady dev community. Half the roms I flashed on the evo ended up being kangs or just plain crappy old skins. There were a few really good ones, salvagemod was the best vanilla AOSP. But really, the OG Epic community put out some real quality stuff, albeit at a slower pace.
Honest answer: jump in, the water is fine. Yeah, ICS will be quite nice once we get it, but in the meantime, there isn't a better phone you can get on sprint than the Epic touch.
rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Literally was writing this verbatim! LOL. I'm guessing OP posted without looking anywhere but the EVO forum and this Q and A section or the dozens of ICS threads would have reached out and smacked him in the eye.
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
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I definitely agree with you in that the Evo is old news. Which is why I'm considering the upgrade to begin with. It is showing it's age more and more.
Thank you for your input.
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Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
Does Sammy not release source code? Aren't they legally required to do this?
rawdikrik said:
Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
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I really don't see anyone trolling you here. Looks like a pretty tame thread to me. My comment was probably the "harshest"if you could call it that. My main point was that you stated that no one was working on ICS and I was pointing out that it would be extremely difficult to miss the fact that several devs are in fact working on ICS, MIUI, CM7+9, AOSP and more TW custom ROM's.
I don't think any of us disagree that we wish there we more things going on, but I also think people forget that the EVO dev process was not overnight. Go back to the first EVO posts and you can see that it was several weeks from release before the customization started and a couple months before things really got going. And when the EVO came out, there was zero worthy competition. Pretty much everyone jumped on the EVO train.
I don't think that anyone here is upset by your post, but I do think it discounts the efforts that have been going on for well over a month to get ICS and the other goods to this device.
"There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on." I think that statement was the one that bothered me because it clearly showed that you were making assumptions without doing any research. And we have enough people in this forum doing plenty of that already. In fact, I have never seen more dev cooperation on any other device. Take a look at the ICS thread from the beginning and you'll see some amazing teamwork. Unfortunately derailed by demanding and entitled community members and leeches, but still alive and kicking in IRC and private spaces.
But I digress, the main point, you probably wouldn't be disappointed by picking up this phone. IMO, it is the best out right now and a quick look around will show you that the number of ROMs is about to hit a stride. The dates of release can show you that new work has just arrived and its beginning to look a lot like EVO-town in here.
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Coming from the Evo 4G and writing guides and helping people on those forums for a while, I bought an E4GT.
Compared to the Evo just development wise on XDA, there aren't as many ROMs or as much development going on.
But phone wise, its a great phone and a great upgrade from the Evo 4G. Personally I use Launcher Pro/ADW so slapping that over TouchWiz is great.
Rooting is simple. There are auto roots going on and not as much of a pain as the Evo 4G. Also flashing things like Radios, ROMs, etc are faster as well because of the difference in phone speed and boot speed.
As for ICS, there was something in the works, but I think there hasn't been any much development on it.