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Motorola Blue Blur Theme (request)

Anyone willing to port over the motorola Blue Blur theme over to our epics? Its the new theme now included in the Droid X, Droid 2, GingerBread release.
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I would like to see this also.

This would be cool
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Op you should at least put a link or post some pictures
Devs have a LOT of work
Its our job to minimize it as much as we can
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Here are some pics:
http://gigjets.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Droid-X-Gingerbread-UI.jpg
http://r.phonedog.com/shared/images/2011/2/145759-dxgingerblur.jpg
http://droid-x.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Droid-X-Gingerbread-screenshots.jpg
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Looks pretty nice. I've never seen Motorola's ui before
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Looks like Gingerbread with a craptastic dialer...

[Q] Borrowing from Motoblur possible?
Hello.
I'm considering getting the Epic 4g, but was wondering if it's at all possible to 'borrow' from Motoblur, specific elements at least. I've grown accustomed to using the Motoblur UI (and has become my personal favorite), and making the move to Sprint, would cause a loss from me as Sprint does not offer Motorola Android phones.
The 'elements' I had in mind were:
- UI (Theme, Easy enough to simulate, possibly easy enough to rip)
- SMS/Contacts/Dialer, the whole integration between these apps, possibly. (If not, I would be happy if the SMS app worked on its own.)
- Connected Media Player
- The gallery app that was present in Cupcake - MotoBlur
- the built-in File explorer
I assume the Epic uses the same TouchWiz present on other Samsung phones, and all of the other apps, I can work with.
(I was personally never a big fan of Samsung phones, after owning 4 others, and having quite a number of issues with each. Sprint's Android selection is a little limited however. At least Samsung is higher in my book than HTC or LG. I'm not moving to Sprint for phone selection though, it's the cost benefit.)
EDIT: Move this if you can. The way my mind worked was that I saw the option to make this thread a question *After* the fact, and after I posted, I THEN saw the Sticky about the Q'nA Section. My bad.
...and now I have to wait 5 minutes to repost, so someone might see this before I can catch my mistake.

k0nane said:
Looks like Gingerbread with a craptastic dialer...
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Plus all the joys of MotoBLUR
Texted while driving

063_XOBX said:
Plus all the joys of MotoBLUR
Texted while driving
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+1 sarcasm
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That was an old picture leaked. Blue Blur looks like this.
http://mobilegeeky.com/motorola-droid-x-and-droid-2-get-android-gingerbread-2-3/

Fidelio_o said:
That was an old picture leaked. Blue Blur looks like this.
http://mobilegeeky.com/motorola-droid-x-and-droid-2-get-android-gingerbread-2-3/
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Blue Blur? Sounds like a B-rated superhero.
*da tum ta*

toastyc12 said:
Hello.
I'm considering getting the Epic 4g, but was wondering if it's at all possible to 'borrow' from Motoblur, specific elements at least. I've grown accustomed to using the Motoblur UI (and has become my personal favorite), and making the move to Sprint, would cause a loss from me as Sprint does not offer Motorola Android phones.
The 'elements' I had in mind were:
- UI (Theme, Easy enough to simulate, possibly easy enough to rip)
- SMS/Contacts/Dialer, the whole integration between these apps, possibly. (If not, I would be happy if the SMS app worked on its own.)
- Connected Media Player
- The gallery app that was present in Cupcake - MotoBlur
- the built-in File explorer
I assume the Epic uses the same TouchWiz present on other Samsung phones, and all of the other apps, I can work with.
(I was personally never a big fan of Samsung phones, after owning 4 others, and having quite a number of issues with each. Sprint's Android selection is a little limited however. At least Samsung is higher in my book than HTC or LG. I'm not moving to Sprint for phone selection though, it's the cost benefit.)
EDIT: Move this if you can. The way my mind worked was that I saw the option to make this thread a question *After* the fact, and after I posted, I THEN saw the Sticky about the Q'nA Section. My bad.
...and now I have to wait 5 minutes to repost, so someone might see this before I can catch my mistake.
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UI - You can have the blur homescreen by downloading Helauncher from the market, and switching to it in the setings.
Sms - Maybe Handcent sms, go sms, or chomp sms
I can't help with the other stuff.
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Do you guys even know why you want ics?

Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You can stay on gingerbread then, it wont bother me really

I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....

raqball said:
I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....
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From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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kingsway8605 said:
From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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Once it starts hitting custom roms, I'm sure we will be getting all sorts of interesting things.

Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You sound like a old man in his old ways lol jk. I can't speak for everyone else but I bought my phone because it was at the time of purchase ahead of every curve (with the exception of nfc) so now that something is out that can make the phone better why the would I not want it. I'm patient in waiting but would love to have it yesterday
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How about true dual core support? or gpu acceleration through the whole phone?
List goes on.

Gingerbread has "true dual core support"

I'm not greedy. Because it's the New thing is the best answer I got. Newer is better right? J/k
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...bad joke.

Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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Thanks to the informative Android blogs and tons of videos, most people know why they want ICS besides having a new look. As for your Ipad and losing jailbreak, you probably should have read in advance to see what features iOS 5 had before taking the plunge. I remember reading multiple times that people with jailbreak should hold up on iOS 5 until an untethered jailbreak is done. But hey, this is about Android

What I'm really waiting for is a nice AOSP ICS with everything working. I am less enthusiastic about TW ICS.

One of the videos showed better app controlled , limit or block apps from background data
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Hmm... OP you should consider the fact that ICS source was only recently released and I think the Nexus Prime launched just today. Of course not all apps are going to work you have to give app developers time to update the apps to be compatible. It's not all going to happen overnight that's why these things take time for the transition. Although I'm a little disappointed that TW covers up some features, I am looking forward to:
*Scrollable widgets
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic)
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless)
*Camera Speed
*New widget placement UI
*New Cool Blue Look
*The drag and drop feature to make folders
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Not to say that you have poor judgment, I do advise reading up a little more on the updates before you jump in and discredit them for changing anything. I think Google is actually just trying to make Android more accessible to more than just Devs, if anything at least give them credit for that.
If you want an entire list of things that are new and how they work, read this review (Personally I think it's the best review that covers everything) it's 7 Pages!
LINK

Guys all I'm saying is it seems like alot of people want ics just because and are foaming at the mouth for it. Isn't alot of your apps not working kinda a big deal. People should just calm down enjoy gingerbread for a few more months.
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Improved multitasking is enough for me....a better looking OS.....speed.....better hardware acceleration...more efficient......data monitoring.......ability to block certain apps from accessing data and last but not least.............camera app (that thing needed updating)
ICS is what Android needs to be to fully compete with IOS the only real threat(since Isheep see differently). I am not too anxious to see TW and Sense on ICS
I remember when iphone first came out my buddies back in college were saying look at what I can do.....I pulled out my cingular blue razr v3 and said check this out....made a call lol
Just gotta wait till the apps are updated thats all

I have to agree with OP,to a certain extent. A lot of the new features are incremental, and I think you can duplicate most of them with already available apps/mods. Not to say I'm not going to flash ICS as soon as a good rom comes out, but I am pretty satisfied with how my phone runs now. ICS is the first step to integrate the Android phone /tablet os, like ios ,and will be much better as it evolves.
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Only if your hiding something?
Sure, you may be able to replicate some of those features with other apps, but thats the point... it brings these features to stock android.

newalker91 said:
*Scrollable widgets - Already offered in custom launchers
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications - Just extra glamour
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic) - More extra glamour
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless) - There are apps that already offer this
*Camera Speed - Is a hardware feature of Galaxy Nexus, not ICS
*New widget placement UI - Very similar to TouchWiz
*New Cool Blue Look - Already have themes for this
*The drag and drop feature to make folders - Already offered in custom launchers
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right - Already offered in custom launchers
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps - Will be available based on app, not Android version
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Many of the things that you've listed can already be achieved or are part of the Galaxy Nexus and not ICS. Just kind of goes to reinforce the idea that most people really don't know why they want ICS. I personally find ICS to be a bit too intrusive into my privacy, especially seeing as in the recently used app overlay it shows you the last picture you took. Definitely not appealing to people in relationships.
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Although I do see your point, the OP asks why I want ICS. I'm entitled to my opinion right? and I noticed the majority of the things you quoted and responded to have to do with modding the system in some way. How about having it all in one package and not having to download a bunch of apps to imitate what should come stock in the OS.
And what's wrong with a little "extra glamour" ?

I just want stock Gingerbread with better battery life and no CarrierIQ. I don't know how much faster people need these little computers to be but the E4GT is fast enough.

Galaxy 3 with dual boot touchwiz/ stock ics

I think if it deffenetely comes out this way would make alot of people happy having a dual boot letting you choose touchwiz/ or stock ics i know this is gs2 section but im sure most of us will be picking up the gs3 upon release
The information supplied over at Reddit reveals that the Galaxy S III may come with a unique dual-launch facility
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which will enable owners to choose between a TouchWiz interface, or wait for it a completely stock version of Ice Cream Sandwich. Again, this is just a rumor at this point, but if it turns out to be true then Samsung will surely win over everyone who previously had a few gripes about TouchWiz
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http://www.product-reviews.net/2012...ii-stock-ics-feature-could-fend-off-iphone-5/

I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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zander21510 said:
I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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I agree 100% first is the manufacture then we gotta deal with the carrier adding a bunch of bloat.....

zander21510 said:
I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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Yup. Touchwiz is arse. I despise it.

I personally don't care if the carrier or manufacturer wants to make a custom launcher or apps or whatever, but it SHOULD be up to the end user to decide if they want it. Say for example an added step in the initial setup of the phone.
This might give them some good stats as to who is actually using the apps vs who isn't which would in turn tell them if its worth the $$ to pay their developers for the extra crap. If not, save the money and use it for better things....like say expanding/improving coverage.... ya know

gwingzero said:
I personally don't care if the carrier or manufacturer wants to make a custom launcher or apps or whatever, but it SHOULD be up to the end user to decide if they want it. Say for example an added step in the initial setup of the phone.
This might give them some good stats as to who is actually using the apps vs who isn't which would in turn tell them if its worth the $$ to pay their developers for the extra crap. If not, save the money and use it for better things....like say expanding/improving coverage.... ya know
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I totally agree with this like the article says a dual boot.... which would let you choose to have touchwiz or just stock droid aka ics..... Who knows we might get shocked and them actually come out with this and make alot of people happy

zander21510 said:
I'm telling ya, android phones would be a lot more damn popular if these idiots would stop shoving their stupid ios copycat attempy customizations on their phones and stick with stock android...
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Agreed. If the manufacturers want a custom UI, I'm all for it. But let them release it in the market as an app and let the users decide! If it were just the launcher, I wouldn't care. I always end up installing a 3rd party launcher anyway, even over AOSP launcher. But the manufacturers screw things up by mucking with the entire OS, like a virus. Trying to make their phone "different". Here's an idea. You want the phone to stand out, release it as AOSP. Have good hardware, stop making varients that you don't support, and deliver timely updates. Or at a minimum, release all driver sources with the release of a phone, so drones can leave their phone stock, and the dev community can customize from day 1.
These things will make your phones stand out, make them "different". And manufacturers, I promise you will be rewarded in sales and customer loyalty.
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The only thing I like about TW is the pulldown notification settings. Otherwise, this is a really good idea.
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I just had a thought...what if PC manufacturers put their own skins over windows...mother of God...
And they wonder what they have to do to make people like their phones...take a lesson from the PC world and for gods ssakes look at apple...uniform OS across it's mobile Devices...using an iPhone is the same as using an ipad...your friends phone works exactly like yours...that's why apple is so successful. They know that they don't have to make a versitile OS if they just make it work uniformly...
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I always preferred AOSP over TW, but if you think about it, TW isn't too bad because you can just freeze it and run a third party launcher over it. HTC Sense, on the other hand, takes up a lot more resources even when frozen since the ROM is based on Sense

Its not "Dual Boot" it's a simple Dual Launcher, not sure why you consider this big news. You don't need to buy the SGS3 to have "Dual Boot" as you put it, simply go to the market and get another Launcher like ADW or Go Launcher or Launcher Pro, then you will have your "Dual Boot"...
FYI "Dual Boot" means having the option to boot two OS, like Windows & Linux, Android & Windows mobile
GBGamer... Pull down notifications have NOTHING to do with TW or the Launcher

Lakers3408 said:
Its not "Dual Boot" it's a simple Dual Launcher, not sure why you consider this big news. You don't need to buy the SGS3 to have "Dual Boot" as you put it, simply go to the market and get another Launcher like ADW or Go Launcher or Launcher Pro, then you will have your "Dual Boot"...
FYI "Dual Boot" means having the option to boot two OS, like Windows & Linux, Android & Windows mobile
GBGamer... Pull down notifications have NOTHING to do with TW or the Launcher
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But touchwiz isn't just the launcher...change to say ADW and the lockscreen, menus, basic apps, pulldown, icons, keyboard stay the stupid cartoony ios copycat ****
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zander21510 said:
But touchwiz isn't just the launcher...change to say ADW and the lockscreen, menus, basic apps, pulldown, icons, keyboard stay the stupid cartoony ios copycat ****
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Haven't you heard of themes, that's what makes Android better then iOS, you can change it to whatever you want, all 3rd party launchers support themes, even the icons, imagine that. ... You must be new to Android... I'm running stock ROM and my phone does not have the stock lock screen or icons.... Search, it's your best friend.... I'll give you a hint, Lockbot Pro

the epic 4g touch from sprint does this already.
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Lakers3408 said:
Haven't you heard of themes, that's what makes Android better then iOS, you can change it to whatever you want, all 3rd party launchers support themes, even the icons, imagine that. ... You must be new to Android... I'm running stock ROM and my phone does not have the stock lock screen or icons.... Search, it's your best friend.... I'll give you a hint, Lockbot Pro
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Yeah I'm running ics theme it says in my sig...my point was that removing touchwiz isn't as easy as installing a launcher...and hell theming doesnt completely eliminate its annoyances...its launcher + theme + apps + etc.
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Lakers3408 said:
Its not "Dual Boot" it's a simple Dual Launcher, not sure why you consider this big news. You don't need to buy the SGS3 to have "Dual Boot" as you put it, simply go to the market and get another Launcher like ADW or Go Launcher or Launcher Pro, then you will have your "Dual Boot"...
FYI "Dual Boot" means having the option to boot two OS, like Windows & Linux, Android & Windows mobile
GBGamer... Pull down notifications have NOTHING to do with TW or the Launcher
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No, the Quick Settings is what I am talking about, like in CM.
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Lakers3408 said:
Haven't you heard of themes, that's what makes Android better then iOS, you can change it to whatever you want, all 3rd party launchers support themes, even the icons, imagine that. ... You must be new to Android... I'm running stock ROM and my phone does not have the stock lock screen or icons.... Search, it's your best friend.... I'll give you a hint, Lockbot Pro
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Maybe you are confused homie. TW is the entire framework for the OS, as Sense is with HTC devices. Certain AOSP items cannot be applied no matter how much you tweak and theme. Please read before attempting to look smart.

The article makes no mention of how the dual-launch capabilities will be implemented so how the hell are you people assuming or not assuming that it will be a launcher or dual boot?
Jeez, find something to do rather than talking it like you have the device and know what's going on.
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Why doesn't Google just add the best features of all these ROMs into native Android?

Why doesn't Google just add the best features of all these ROMs into native Android?
It's so stupid that people have to root their phones in order to get these features. I understand that maybe Google doesn't want Android to seem overly complex, but have a Customization area all in a submenu that you can unlock buy sliding Customizations to ON.
Things like this (in order of necessary > bloat):
Global volume rocker as cursor movement keys (hope this baby is patented so Apple doesn't steal it!)
% battery icon
Brightness slider toggle + AOKP toggles!!!!
Screenshot on Power Menu
Volume panel
Custom targets on lockscreen ring
Custom notification LED colors >> this would really make the hardware unique from Apple and it's really handy, esp when you're in meetings / theaters / church / or any quiet time; the different color assignments are really useful! Even vibrate is now disruptive in meetings.
Weather on lockscreen
Show notification count
Custom colors for Nav Bar
I don't think that's so much that it would overwhelm the average user. Whenever a family member or friend sees our phones, they want me to root theirs and make it the same.
Maybe someone at Google can get this message and we can see this in 4.2? They could release it as a "Android Power Toys" add-on type marketing the way Microsoft did with Windows?

I'm sure there are a number of reasons. First many of these things can be done with third party apps. Google mainly keeps to things that have to be built into the os, or related to Google services.
They have incorporated some features like additional lock screen targets, some toggles on tablets, resizable widgets, ect. It sounds like themes may be coming in 4.2 too.
Another thing I've noticed is while these features are great, they do slow things down a bit, so they may not be beneficial to everyone.
I'm fine with getting these features from other sources of they can put out things like project butter and Google now.
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A lot of what you listed up there I would term bloat, lots of unnecessary options for features I don't want.
Toggles are the exception, I'd love to see a really nice AOSP toggle implementation. I think most normal users would like that too.

Copywrite violations.

I think an easy explanation may be, because the Nexus line is currently only two devices (including the N7). Nexus owners comprise a very small segment of the Android population, and Google develops the device with root users, ROM devs, and themers in mind...meaning, they know we're going to change our devices ourselves (which is part of the fun), so they may not find all of those changes necessary for the Nexus line.
As it pertains to Android in general, I think manufacturer skins (Touchwiz, Sense, Blur) would be the primary deterrent. Google would spend all that time, developing features, that manufacturers would either alter or delete entirely, meaning Google had wasted time and man-hours on developing those additions.
However, word on the street is that LG is getting the Nexus next, but that all manufacturers will also have the ability to make a Nexus device, provided they follow Google's guidelines. This means Nexus devices in the hands of more end users, and possibly, an increased impetus for Google to incorporate some of the features you mentioned. I think we'll see 4.2 and 5.0 implementing some massive changes to the system, in regards to customization and personalization.
Personally, I would like to see the launcher improved. There's no reason why Google couldn't spend a little more time, and create a customizable launcher, like Nova or Apex. That would be a massive improvement IMHO, and one that every user could benefit from. The current launcher is nice, but I know very few rooted users who actually prefer Launcher2 to either of the aforementioned launchers.
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I wonder if they are not included for the sake of simplifying the OS for the average user. It's a lot easier to get someone to just add a widget to add functionality than to explain to them how to enable weather on the lock screen or how to pick which pull-down toggles they want. A lot of those options are redundant because you can access them with widgets on the launcher.

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I wonder if they are not included for the sake of simplifying the OS for the average user. It's a lot easier to get someone to just add a widget to add functionality than to explain to them how to enable weather on the lock screen or how to pick which pull-down toggles they want. A lot of those options are redundant because you can access them with widgets on the launcher.
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That makes sense, but honestly, how many Nexus owners do you know that fit into the "average user" category? I know 35 people who own a Nexus device, and only 3 of them aren't rooted. In general Android terms, you're probably 100% correct though...most "average users" would not know what to do with some of those changes, and many would consider them bloat. Geez, Google's even removed Maps from Gapps, because people thought it was bloatware, so they are sensitive to that issue.
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Remoteconcern said:
A lot of what you listed up there I would term bloat, lots of unnecessary options for features I don't want.
Toggles are the exception, I'd love to see a really nice AOSP toggle implementation. I think most normal users would like that too.
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I agree, what prompted this post was the AOKP toggles, that's what people like the most when they see mine and my gf's phones.
Also, I agree that it's bloat. But, that's why they can release it in the Play Store as a "Power Toys for Android" add-on. It makes it easy for average users to get access to these features and they don't have to root and they don't have to play the milestone game waiting for a stable daily driver.

jjhiza said:
I think an easy explanation may be, because the Nexus line is currently only two devices (including the N7). Nexus owners comprise a very small segment of the Android population, and Google develops the device with root users, ROM devs, and Turner's in mind...meaning, they know we're going to change our devices ourselves (which is part of the fun), so they may not find all of those changes necessary for the Nexus line.
As it pertains to Android in general, I think manufacturer skins (Touchwiz, Sense, Blur) would be the primary deterrent. Google would spend all that time, developing features, that manufacturers would either alter or delete entirely, meaning Google had wasted time and man-hours on developing those additions.
However, word on the street is that LG is getting the Nexus next, but that all manufacturers will also have the ability to make a Nexus device, provided they follow Google's guidelines. This means Nexus devices in the hands of more end users, and possibly, an increased impetus for Google to incorporate some of the features you mentioned. I think we'll see 4.2 and 5.0 implementing some massive changes to the system, in regards to customization and personalization.
Personally, I would like to see the launcher improved. There's no reason why Google couldn't spend a little more time, and create a customizable launcher, like Nova or Apex. That would be a massive improvement IMHO, and one that every user could benefit from. The current launcher is nice, but I know very few rooted users who actually prefer Launcher2 to either of the aforementioned launchers.
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The launcher is a great idea too. I forgot to mention that. However, Nova launcher is easy for the average user to install. You don't even need to be rooted.

Neo3D said:
The launcher is a great idea too. I forgot to mention that. However, Nova launcher is easy for the average user to install. You don't even need to be rooted.
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Very true, but most normal Android users simply run the out-of-the-box setup from day one, until the day they upgrade. If Google took the time to build a slightly better launcher, those of us who want extra customization (grid size, icon editing, etc) can have it, while those who run stock from day one, won't even notice the changes, because they'll never use them.

Looks like Google might be one step ahead of us.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...oject-roadrunner-updated-google-play-and-now/
"Customization Center"?
That would be sweet if it were true and included some of these awesome ideas that custom ROM devs have come up with.

That's generally how it works, Google borrows from developers and OEMs' UIs.
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jordanishere said:
Copywrite violations.
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What copyright? If i remembered correctly all custom ROMs are open sourced, which means copyright doesn't apply.
Do correct me if i'm wrong.

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That's generally how it works, Google borrows from developers and OEMs' UIs.
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This is it right here. Let the devs do the muscle and brain work and Google cherry picks what they think should be the next evolution of android.
The great thing about open source is that sharing is what it is all about. If you don't like sharing, then there are two other clubs to join. Both of which could be more awesome if they didn't take the mine all mine approach.
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This is it right here. Let the devs do the muscle and brain work and Google cherry picks what they think should be the next evolution of android.
The great thing about open source is that sharing is what it is all about. If you don't like sharing, then there are two other clubs to join. Both of which could be more awesome if they didn't take the mine all mine approach.
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Yep, all about the cherry picks.
Perfect example is SMS quick reply, I'd say that's a dead cert as the immediate reaction to JB notifications was fantastic but let me do even mooaaar!!!
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They can't just slap every option in the world in. You'd have a bloated mess. (That's part of why skins are so bad... feature overload).
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Most of those things can be do e from an app, maybe Google let's the door open to the free market and get devs to earn money making these addons.
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Besides, if Google took all the best features from our ROMs, nothing would hardly ever need updating in future versions.

I Am Marino said:
Besides, if Google took all the best features from our ROMs, nothing would hardly ever need updating in future versions.
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Well I think its important to note that even if Google wanted to implement some of these features commonly found on custom ROMs that it'd take more than just one version of Android to bring them in.

jjhiza said:
I think an easy explanation may be, because the Nexus line is currently only two devices (including the N7). Nexus owners comprise a very small segment of the Android population, and Google develops the device with root users, ROM devs, and Turner's in mind...meaning, they know we're going to change our devices ourselves (which is part of the fun), so they may not find all of those changes necessary for the Nexus line.
As it pertains to Android in general, I think manufacturer skins (Touchwiz, Sense, Blur) would be the primary deterrent. Google would spend all that time, developing features, that manufacturers would either alter or delete entirely, meaning Google had wasted time and man-hours on developing those additions.
However, word on the street is that LG is getting the Nexus next, but that all manufacturers will also have the ability to make a Nexus device, provided they follow Google's guidelines. This means Nexus devices in the hands of more end users, and possibly, an increased impetus for Google to incorporate some of the features you mentioned. I think we'll see 4.2 and 5.0 implementing some massive changes to the system, in regards to customization and personalization.
Personally, I would like to see the launcher improved. There's no reason why Google couldn't spend a little more time, and create a customizable launcher, like Nova or Apex. That would be a massive improvement IMHO, and one that every user could benefit from. The current launcher is nice, but I know very few rooted users who actually prefer Launcher2 to either of the aforementioned launchers.
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Ahhh jjhiza. Havent seen one of your essays since the droid3 days aha
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[REQUEST] Multiwindows???

it will be possible a porting of samsung multiwindows for the nexus 4?

Possibly, though I'm pretty sure that MultiWindow requires hooks in Touchwiz, so you would need a Touchwiz based ROM on 4.2 for it to work.

I'd love this on the N4 aswell. But it might need as said before a touchwiz rom or maybe CM11?

a rom with touchwiz wil be ok for me

There probably won't be a fully functioning Touchwiz ROM for our phone.. There are plenty of "floating" apps that offer similar functionality.
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Doesn't paranoid android have this feature? And I remember a rom for the hp touch pad had this thing called cornerstone which allowed for multiple apps to be displayed at once
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Doesn't paranoid android have this feature? And I remember a rom for the hp touch pad had this thing called cornerstone which allowed for multiple apps to be displayed at once
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Google basically asked cornerstone to stop development of that app I think. I read that somewhere. Not sure where though.
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See post below.

kcls said:
Google basically asked cornerstone to stop development of that app I think. I read that somewhere. Not sure where though.
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Here is some helpful info
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/cornerstone-dev

Basically what it looks like was Cyanogenmod was going to include Onskreen Cornerstone in their CM10 builds but Google are trying to stop it in a somewhat threatening maner.
See this post for more information
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We (the CM team) have been experimenting with Cornerstone on our
tablet builds. There are a few things to iron out, but for the most
part it's working pretty well. What is causing me some concern, is a
response to a re-share on Google+ by Dianne Hackborn, an engineer at
Google working on the Android platform. She raises some pretty valid
concerns (probably threatening to ban us from the Market if we include
it was a bit far over the line, though). I was wondering if someone
from Onskreen would care to comment?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100275307499530023476/posts/ViCME1bb8F6
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Okay, let me please please beg you not to do this. I can guarantee you this introduces all kinds of application compatibility issues. We work really hard to give our developers a consistent environment where their apps will operate correctly across all the devices Market runs on, not being impacted by negative reviews from bad devices that they should not have to deal specially with.
If you start making your own distributions of Android behaving in such fundamentally different ways, I suspect we are going to need to start doing things to prevent you from impacting our app ecosystem. I'm not sure what, but I could imagine things such as restricting how users can interact with Market apps on these devices (not allowing reviews or such).
We have let a lot of things in this area slide -- for example to be allowed to include Market on your device you are supposed to fully pass CTS. However, if you start really diverging from the core Android platform (I would argue this takes you well into the realm of a fork rather than a customization) then some deep issues are going to come up about how we handle these custom builds.
We have been putting a lot of thought and work for a number of years into how to let Android applications run on increasingly diverse and dynamic screens. Doing this correctly, without impacting our app developers in a negative way, is a really challenging problem. I also think it is something that needs to be done at the mainline platform level, not as a customization, because doing it right is going to require new well defined interfaces with applications for them to interact with it, possibly starting with just a facility they need to use to opt in to it.
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Cornerstone dev said:
onhsnm
Feb 15
Steve,
Thanks for reaching out. We have heard variations on this theme for
some time, so it appears that it is time for us to respond.
We very much appreciate the amount of work that the Android team has
done to address the complexity of supporting applications on the
variety of screen sizes that "real" Android runs on. The Onskreen team
has spent an immense amount of time to continue that effort while
creating the Cornerstone experience.
As far as responding to Diane's comments directly, it’s a bit
difficult because there are no specific concerns mentioned. Her
contention appears to be that changes were made to the Android
Framework at all, not with anything specific with Cornerstone. We'd be
happy to have a conversation with them about anything specifically
they feel negatively impacts apps. We have more work to do on the
product so there are definitely items on our todo list to continue to
improve, but the first release clearly stays within the realm of an
Android optimization (most definitely not a fork) and outside of bugs,
does not break Android apps.
One of our goals was to support Android applications unchanged without
introducing Cornerstone specific APIs or modifications that
applications must conform to. As Diane said, there are some great
things we could have done by introducing multi-tasking specific
interfaces and manifest declarations, but we did not so Cornerstone
did not fragment from Android as it exists today. After all that is
what the app developers have targeted for their apps. Throughout the
code, you will find a number of architectural decisions to ensure apps
run without fragmentation (Ex: setting correct Configurations, not
running multiple instances, etc...); as well as feature decisions to
ensure the same (Ex: ability to turn Cornerstone off, removing the
ability to swap so that apps weren't forced to deal with changing
screen size, etc...)
Threats to rescind Market access are a bit much, we prefer to stick to
specifics and open a dialogue. We are happy to discuss specific
concerns and we expect that once the Google team has had a chance to
dig into the code, we will hear some. We also expect that dialogue to
make Cornerstone better for everyone, one of the reasons we open
sourced the code to start with.
hansmeet.
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