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[Q] Root my 2.3.6 or wait for ICS upgrade?

Hi all,
I'm still on the fence about rooting my t989 and so I'm looking for advice. I got the 2.3.6 update and I really want ICS but I'm willing to wait for it though. Also, I'm pretty conservative when it comes to risks such as rooting due to warranties, bricking, and losing functionality. However, I'll be traveling for a while and tethering could be handy and titanium backup has always been attractive to me. But what happens if ICS comes out? I think I loose root if I update OTA, but I should be able to get root again. I'm not a big fan of real 3rd party software because I don't want to work with bugs so if I got a new ROM, it may only be CM9 or similar as reliability is important to me. And then I don't want a new ROM if it doesn't use the Linux Kernel since Ubuntu is developing that OS to share that Kernel. Do I even need a new ROM? I think touchwiz is fine. Pages of apps are better than scrolling through them IMO.
So any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks!

Root it unless you plan on running stock ics. Chances are the ota will be releases here before it hits your phone we have a couple really nice ics roms right now. Don't know what your waiting for lol
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If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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Towle said:
If you want to root, root. More than likely you will be able to download the stock ICS rom from here before you get it on your phone. As soon as one person gets it, our awesome devs will be on it like flys on ****, and we will see a stock rooted rom almost immediately.
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I was rooted however I dropped my phone last week and had to get a replacement now I am just gonna wait for ICS to drop...
It's all good with me, at least I have my wifi calling and no delay or echo while taking my minibath.

Rooted mine several weeks ago. Tired of waiting for official ICS from T-Mobile and Samsung. Once the official version is released, the devs will have a rooted version available for flashing so you won't have to un-root.
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Just root, you won't be disappointed. Plus you can always go back if you want.
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This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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Just root it you will be happier plus its just as easy to unroot as it is to root
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Was on 2.3.6 rooted for months waiting on ICS update. We finally got a rom yesterday that doesn't have any call echo problems, or really any problems. Flashed darkside's newest 4.0.4 rom this morning and have had smooth sailing all day.
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iLeopard said:
This isn't iOS. Don't think about and root it
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+1. Its easy to unroot and return to stock if need be. Till then we have fully functional daily driver ics roms already so what are you waiting for? Take control of your device. That's why you went with android over iOS and wp7 in the first place anyway isnt it?
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Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434

bripod said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll go ahead and root. I really want titanium backup. Is this the best thread for a HOW TO root?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514434
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This is the thread i followed to root. Very simple instructions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311194 but yeah same method one has pics one dont.
Edit: Unrooting the phone is the same process as rooting except you flash a different file to the phone.

My suggestion is to root. But don't sweat CM9 it is pretty buggy right now because its still beta and isn't officially supported on our phones. But there are plenty of stable ICS roms now and even if u don't care for the few bugs that some may have, there are also some amazing GB rooms out there too.
Just my 2 cents.
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But I don't NEED a new ROM do I? Doesn't it just change the GUI? Basically I just want tethering and freeze bloat apps and ads, but a battery life boost would be great. How much does it change under the hood to expand capability? From what I can tell, root apps are the only thing that expands features.

Root and install a rom... If you think your phone is good, with a rom you'll see your phone is just great

Sorry for all my questions but is the kernel held within the ROM? And whatever ROM I choose, I can just flash to different just like that huh? Like it's an easy process?
My brother has Juggernaut, it didn't look any different than touchwiz except for flashy little things like the screen turn off and stuff. I just need function, not flash.

Some roms com with their own kernels, like TDJ's ones... You can flash a rom and then change it for another, but you have to wipe your data for a clean install (there's always the option to backup your info)

Questions go in the Q&A section

Stock or root?

So I've had GNex for about a month now. I bought it off Craigslist and it was already rooted. I've been loving this phone as is but I am curious as to the experience on stock.... am I crazy for wanting to try it out? I am running JB right now and I like it. But I'm still curious about stock ICS on my Sprint GNex. Any thoughts?

It is obvious that you are new here. At XDA stock is never an option.
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LoL no not new my friend, just wanted to get your opinion. I've been here since I rooted my original Evo 4G. But thanks I'll take your thoughts as to stay rooted.

If you got it used, my suggestion: reflash the ROM (stock or custom ROM - your choise) and root again.
And yes - I prefer it rooted. It doesn't hurt to have it rooted. But it makes life easier (Titanium backup requires it; some apps like AdFree etc.).

Stock or custom Rom ?

I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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viskon said:
I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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Well, I for one won't be flashing any ROMs (at least for several months) once my GNEX arrives tomorrow. Whenever I had an unsolvable issue which was with the ROM I chose and would ask for help, I'd get the most cynical responses. "That's what you signed up for" seems to be the common theme. It's like people enjoy being in constant beta tester mode, even when they are supposedly running the stable build of a ROM. The only reason I would flash a ROM is if the default JB build the phone came with was horribly broken. Overclocking on something like a phone is a bit excessive, especially for something that is already a powerhouse and can run the most intense games available for it with relative ease.

viskon said:
I have owned three Android devices before getting my GNex. Each of those three devices were rooted and rom-ed within the first one month. I have had my GNex for almost two months now on stock jellybean, no root or custom recovery. The flasher within me is itching to flash something new. The pragmatic within me finds no justification for flashing. The other devices had some issue or the other; everything works fine on stock jb on the Gnex. I am trying my best to side with the pragmatic.
Question to the community- I know what I gain from flashing a custom rom ( customizability, overclocking,etc) . Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose the warranty if you know what you're doing........
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viskon said:
Other than the warranty, what do I lose by moving away from the stock rom?
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You don't lose anything, but you gain a lot of nifty features.

I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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martonikaj said:
I recommend you always try stock out for a bit before trying anything else. Stock 4.1.1 is damn good.
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Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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drzplaya1121 said:
Stock is great but I got tired of my phone giving me 15 hours of battery life on avg so I rooted to get a kernel
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Interesting. That is what i currently get. And did flashing a new kernel help?
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I tried several highly regarded JB roms (ParanoidAndroid, CM10 nightly, the varieties of AndroidME), but keep coming back to stock + Nova Launcher. Don't even need to (re-)root for that. Just a great combination that you can rely on.
But when I get that itch, I play around with ParanoidAndroid for a few days here and there. A really interesting rom, which I'm sure you'll hear a lot about.

I was coming from a sgs2 that was on a custom ROM and surprisingly I'm happy with stock 4.1 and see no need to flash a custom ROM. Maybe just a kernel to get better battery life even tho it lasts me all day with about 4 hours of screen on time so I can't really complain.
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I've been rooting, modding, and even custom ROM building since my Samsung Moment days and ever since. Since I got my Galaxy Nexus on Sprint, however, all I've done is flash a completely pure AOSP stock build of 4.1.1. With this device I have no desire other than to be running the most current Android source. Everything just works, and works well. I have no need for flashy features. Jelly Bean already has every feature I need.
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I love stock vanilla Android. All my other phones, I'd root and install Cyanogenmod asap. I'd always use the modified factory roms on offer as well, because Cyanogenmod often didn't work that well in the early days of a new device or Android version.
On the nexus I don't really need to flash, but I still use Cyanogenmod 10 anyway for the sole reason the power control toggles in the status bar are very handy.
Either way, only a nexus device can offer such high quality aosp based roms. I say have fun trying a few. Yes there are still issues sometimes but it's nothing like what I've experienced in other phones.
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Definitely Cusome
Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:

CourtimusMaximus said:
Stock is always nice for a while, but the reason you get a nexus is to be able to have fun and do things that others can't :good:
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One of the reasons. For me it's just to have the latest AOSP software, and for me that is enough. The Nexus fills both plates very well.
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The reason I got a nexus was because I hated all the touchwiz/sense stuff and the pre-installed carrier garbage... thus removing my reason to root my phone (not that I don't like to tinker, but 18 credit hours leaves little time).
The only reason I ended up rooting was for PGM so I dont destroy my power button in 3 months like all my previous phones, and for the widgets to show up in apex/nova. Aside from those, I run a totally stock system...
On an unrelated note, sooooo many iphone owners in my classes ask me how to wake their iphone by swiping... i love telling them that they cant

Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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CyberpunkDad said:
Same boat. GSM stock ROM. Itching BUT I don't want to lock the phones secure element because Google wallet is pretty cool.
Night features are nice but not worth losing wallet over
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With the GSM Galaxy Nexus, you can unlock, root, find a custom ROM and flash it, then find the Google Wallet APK and install it. It'll say "unsupported device" because Google wants to warn you about "rooting," but it'll activate and work .
I'm using NexusHD 4.3 with GApps and Google Wallet.

With Galaxy Nexus and Jelly Bean there is no reason to try custom ROMS. Only bug a can find is 2.4GHZ wireless.

I've tried to stay as close to JB stock as possible, flashing a vanilla deodexed build of JB and just a couple of mods (battery percent and louder speaker sound) that increase everyday functionality for me and a kernel change because it increases battery life and on demand performance by a practically useful margin. Everyone's personal preferences I suppose but that's the great thing about a nexus device, it can please different tastes/uses very well.

Gnex is so boring ...there is no compelling reason to flash .. everything works just great without any tweaking
Life with galaxy s was more fun...flashing every nightly..dealing with bugs..spending hours on xda forum to find the fixes/work arounds / tricks to improve battery life..I miss all these.
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How many gnex user....

Run them purely stock

Pure stock, rooted, custom kernel?
need more high def music...

I've ran stock for 6 months. After that my urge to tinker with stuff got the best of me.
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I ran stock from launch day until JB dropped. Although I unlocked and rooted in May just to get the leaked 4.0.4 update.
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Pure stock
I unlocked and rooted as soon as it was activated Lol
I'm getting a replacement unit soon I'm planning on running it pure stock until jb hits from sprint

Mine is as stock as the day I got it. Haven't had the need for root...
Yet.
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I bought it with all intention to play with it. I found myself so busy lately, and I am so happy with stock performance, that I even unrooted and 're locked last week.
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I was running stock, but wanted more customization... Running AOKP right now, but I wouldn't mind switching to stock

I unlocked and rooted it, but still run stock. It works for me so I have no use for a custom ROM unless it would do something fantastically amazing for me.
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It was stock for the duration of the car ride home
So, about 30 minutes.
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Stock but unlocked
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Unlocked and had custom rom running during it's first 10 minutes with me.

Unlocked, rooted, and running stock 4.1.1
No need for a custom ROM at this point.Next update will put supercurio's OTA RootKeeper to the test, but I have complete confidence it will work just fine!

Stock. No need for custom ROMs, and I use to build them...
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I went about with stock for about a month before I got addicted to jelly bean and rooted and now running CN(A) 3.4.1 or codenameandroid 3.4.1 and I love it.
Galaxy Nexus (GSM) - rooted (SuperSU)
ROM - CN(A) or codenameandroid
Kernel - Stock Jelly bean kernel (I think)
Overclocked - overclocked to 1.8ghz

I'm a crackflashing root fiend. I've rooted and flashed every device I've ever gotten my hands on. Until now.
I've had the GSM GNex for a month with no desire to root or flash. Until CM10 stabilizes I don't think I ever will. Google has gotten so much right with JB.
I like having a phone that just works. Some day I'm sure...but not any time soon.
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I unlocked and rooted a week after I got it about 3 months ago.
I came from a Motorola Photon 4G, with a godly amount of ROMs, cool things like "Kitchen sink", touch based installers (not TWRP), and general goodies. Needless to say I was a bit disappointed, now waiting for a SIII.
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jstrom23 said:
I like having a phone that just works. Some day I'm sure...but not any time
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Nothing wrong with that. :laugh:. I'm sorta stock but I've had no need to run a custom ROM since JB, IMO is perfect the way it is for my needs.

Unlocked rooted and running paranoid android all as soon as my hands touch the phone lol
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I do. Stock JB Rooted with Unlocked bootloader and Kernel.
It's work so good that I don't need custom rom xD

What is the need for a custom ROM for this device?

I always run a custom ROM on my phones because of all the bloatware n such. But what is the need really to do it on this device? Stock android is smooth and does everything I need. Battery life is great too. So am I missing out on something by having a custom rom on this device? Convince me!

Well there are simple things that I like about custom ROMs.
I like trying new things. I also enjoy tweaking the various features that are available with most custom ROMs. There is expanded desktop and PIE controls which makes gaming full screen which is really nice. I don't know if you've ever been bothered by this but games always have the bar at the bottom of the screen which is annoying and gets in the way sometimes. Sometimes it is just nice to have a full screen to use even if it means losing some functionality.

To get rid of the google stuff.

Speed, battery life, expanded desktop, theming, tablet mode, etc.

I find it a little annoying that the stock kernel supports NFS, but they've arranged everything to run in a unique namespace so you can't make a NFS mount visible outside the shell where you ran the mount command. I don't really need NFS enough to want to replace the ROM, but I can imagine that being a reason to do so.

Pie
Quiet Hours
Advanced reboot menu
Custom DPI Settings
Making the bars transparent.
And I could just go on and on.
Need? I don't need a custom rom. I want it. Google bare minimum is awesome only to a point.

There isn't so much of a need as a desire. The device stock benches around 5475. With CM and a custom kernal installed I not only have better battery life, and quicker charge - but it benches at 7510.

May I ask what kernel you're using?
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May I ask what kernel you're using?
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Are you asking me?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383361

In my case I don't need and/or want a custom ROM. I got a Nexus to run and enjoy Android tablet as Google intend to. For custom ROMs I use my SPH-L710 (SGS3)
And even there never keep one more than 10 days, don't like to be troubleshooting every day and a half.
Well that's just me.
Most of the time I keep stock rooted just to use Freedom app.
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I used to custom everything but since jellybean I've not bothered. The only things I really miss is a few root apps like ad block
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Is the CM nightly's stable enough yet? Or should I wait for a official build?

I'm not rooting my tab yet, I'll give it a month or 2 before I do first. N7 is perfect for me as it is atm
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I unlocked mine, flashed custom recovery, rooted.
I am leaving it stock rom and stock kernel for quite a while. :good:

I would like to use it stock for a while. Then I I want to put whatever rom I want. I think it is a matter of personalization. I feel it is totally mine only when fully customize my device

One word: Customizable Quick Settings!

fixyourtech said:
I unlocked mine, flashed custom recovery, rooted.
I am leaving it stock rom and stock kernel for quite a while. :good:
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I have read conflicting info on rooting the N7 2013. If I unlock and flash TWRP will the stock ROM not be wiped? What about if SU? Noob here on the Nexus but expert on the HTC T-Bolt and B&N Nook Tablet. What a upgrade from the Nook Tablet. It just sits on my desk now.......

Bobflan said:
I have read conflicting info on rooting the N7 2013. If I unlock and flash TWRP the stock ROM not be wiped? What about if SU? Noob here on the Nexus but expert on the HTC T-Bolt and B&N Nook Tablet. What a upgrade from the Nook Tablet. It just sits on my desk now.......
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Yes, your data will be wiped, but not the stock ROM (/system). fastboot oem unlock will basically do a factory reset for security purposes.

Nitin985 said:
I'm not rooting my tab yet, I'll give it a month or 2 before I do first. N7 is perfect for me as it is atm
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Waiting for the roms to reach a certain point in stability and for some step by step guides to go up also on getting from stock to CM or somethin. Also, enjoying some google stock for the first time to..always had samsung so this is new to me(and will be getting my first nexus on next release to)

As someone who has only been on stock or mostly stock phones, I'm not in awe by what stock Android brings to the table. CM is what stock should be while other ROMs go above and beyond in what they offer.
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