[Q] faulty nandroid backup - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Alright, my stats:
Sprint's network
HTC EVO 4G rooted (I think using unrevoked, awhile ago)
Live in edmond/Tulsa OK
was running cyanogenmod 7
Here's the problem:
1. I tried to make a nandroid backup with ROM manager premium
Got stuck at HTC EVO splash screen on reboot
2. tried to make a backup manually.
Got to bootloader screen, then went to recovery. Stuck on splash screen
3. Found a thread telling me my recovery didn't flash, and it gave me a link to a zip file with a copy of clockwork recovery, I think it was version 3.
The suspicious thing is, ROM manager still thinks i'm running clockworkmod recovery v5, but it clearly says i'm running 3. something when i'm actually in recovery.
4. flashed above mentioned recovery, made nandroid backup, flashed to stock HTC evo rom to use the ##GPSCLRX# thing which did not help. It wouldn't even bring up an MSL password box. (I am having numerous bugs with cyanogenmod, including GPS)
5. Now i'm trying to restore back to my nandroid backup since the GPSCLRX thing did not work. thing is, it doesn't have the same sort of file structure as the stock evo rom. My phone doesn't think it's a nandroid backup.
The backup i'm trying to restore to is not compressed at all, actually. there are 8 files in the folder:
.android_secure Disk image file
boot Disk image file
cache Disk image file
data Disk image file
nandroid MD5 file
recovery disc image file
system disc image file
wimax.HT0AEHL07834 Disc image file
Which is totaly different from the HTC evo stock rom folder structure, which is a compressed folder and has META-INF folder, a system folder and a boot.img file
What I'm thinking is that i'm trying to flash a backup from a different recovery version.
Anyway, Expert thoughts on the subject would be much appreciated on any part of the matter. I would mostly like to get all my settings back though. After I find a way to get cyanogenmod back, i'm planning on using this thread to get my gps to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239713

Don't be Beech, Be Russian; Use Amon Ra
Give Amon Ra 3.08 a try. One of it's key features is that it can restore CWM backups AND it's native Amon Ra backups. I have it installed, and I have the same problem w/ ROM Manager--it says I still have CWM, which is false. So I just uninstalled it, which you can do since Amon Ra isn't compatible with it's features. You can find it in my signature, just click on "Amon Ra 3.08".

Don't use ROM Manager. That's just a fact. It doesn't do anything but create problems.
Don't use CWM. People have had problems with CWM Nandroids

When you restore a backup u do it through the backup option. You don't flash it like a normal rom which from your post is what I'm understanding you are trying to do. In the backup option or nandroid or whatever its called on cwm there should be an option labeled restore, select it, locate your backup, select it and then select restore and let it run, first make sure you flash a format all zip or wipe all the options except battery stats and SD card, included wipes should be factory reset/data, boot, data, system, .SD_secure, sd-ext and any other options aside from SD card and battery stats
Sent from my iCS'd out EViL4G, soaking in a bowl of Ramen Noodles

And I agree to get rid of rom manager and cwm I personally use the amon RA style supersonic recovery v3.08 which I would recommend for you coming from cwm as this version will allow you to still use your backups made with cwm although I would recommend restoring what ever backups you want to keep after you change and making fresh copies with amon RA and then deleting the cwm counter part, also you should make a backup of just the wimax option in amon and then save it in dropbox or attach and email it to yourself and save the email if you don't have dropbox just keep it somewhere safe besides just your phone and PC incase you have a loss of data
Sent from my iCS'd out EViL4G, soaking in a bowl of Ramen Noodles

amon ra is the way to go.
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it's never failed me, and the full backups are quick.

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Reinstall Nandroid?

I realized recently that my nandroid backups were not completing correctly (see pic). I noticed this because I have done numerous nandroid backups and there is only one backup showing in the nandroid folder. It always says "backup complete" but above that it looks like it might not be completing correctly? Is there a way to reinstall nandroid backup?
this is normal...
I've experienced problems with backups in Amon Ra as well. I've had a lot more success backing up via Rom Manager through Clockwork. Just an FYI for the future.
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
ryan2202 said:
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
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*sigh*
clockwork is a recovery just like amon is a recovery -
THEY BOTH have nandroid backup feature... its just as easy if not easier in clockwork and yes it is a complete nandroid backup
ryan2202 said:
tyrnight, what is normal? and how come when I just ran this Nand backup, I have no new backups in the nandroid folder?
MSmith1, I thought Clockwork isnt a complete backup like Nandroid?
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Clockwork & Nandroid are two different things. Amon RA & Clockwork are two different recoveries, & the nandroid backups can be performed by both of them.
I'm personally using Amon RA's recovery because i heard Clockwork doesn't wipe data as it's supposed to.
In the image you posted you are using clockworkmod backup/recovery. Therefore your back up images are in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup, not nandroid.
Iceman5000 said:
In the image you posted you are using clockworkmod backup/recovery. Therefore your back up images are in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup, not nandroid.
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exactly...
OK I think I got it now. I thought Nandroid backed up differently than the Clockwork or Amon tools. I didnt realize the Clockwork (which I have been using) is a COMPLETE back up of the phone. I thought it was only backing up the ROM and not the data and apps, etc.
So since I have Clockwork/Amon through ROM Manager I can just use that to run my complete backups instead of going into Nandroid through recovery mode?
You can only use Clockwork to backup via ROM Manager. If you use Amon RA you'll have to manually boot into Recovery & backup from there.
Clockwork is not working properly. It is not backing up sdcard's and is not wiping all data. I recommend just using nand and quickboot however the new clockwork flashed over nand had to reinstall Nand Recovery via adb etc..
I'm new to this all myself but I think the reason it won't back up the SD card is because it would have to backup the entire card and where would it put the file? I'm guessing your SD card would have to be large enough and partitioned for it to write the backup to. That is total speculation of course...
First of all, according to the pic, your sdcard is pretty critically low on space so a nand backup probably won't complete fully. Second, the message about android.secure is a directory reference that occurs if you have transferred your apps to your sdcard. Since it can't find the directory, I'm assuming you aren't using apps2sd. The second message about the sd-ext directory only applies if you've actually created a secondary partition on your sdcard. So just because it skips those two areas doesn't mean that the remainder of your data has not been backed up.
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[Q] clockwork to amon_ra

how can i change from clockwork recovery to amon_ra recovery and still retain the ROM/settings etc. in my current nandroid backup?
If you have rom manager you can do it that way, just go to where it says flash alternate recovery, and you'll see it.
Switching recovery images won't affect your rom our the backups you've made but I would imagine you might run into problems if you try to use RA to restore a backup that was made by clockwork.. maybe not though..
ok i flashed RA outside of ROManager. backups were made with ROManager before installation of RA. initially i couldn't restore my ROManager backups from RA. after some hair pulling i figured out that the directory structures/naming conventions were different. i couldn't find any info on how RA's backup util named it's directories, so i just made a RA backup. once i had done this i could easily figure out the method for the naming.
i was able to do this all after flashing RA, and running it. once i was in it i just by flipped on the USB-MS mode viewing the sd card contents, creating the necessary directories, moving ROManager backups etc. then turned off MS mode, wiped the dalvik, and restored my ROManager backups.
make sense?

Noob needs Help??????

Hey all,
I have a new HTC Evo that I installed Unrevoked 3 root program....no problems installing it.....So I downloaded and installer ROM manager and then ROM manger premium.....no problem there either, backed up the phone and everything seems to be good......tried to add Rom's in zip file from SD card and keep coming up with Abort errors.....clockwork is running fine to my knowledge...
read a few threads and add in Unrevoked forever....Installed with no problems....but I still can't get any Rom's to run properly with the abort errors.....
does the SD card file have to be a certain type of file name???? and thing would be a huge help.....I am pretty sure all the software is working good.......I just can't get this to work.....I have been test it with a few different ROM'S......AND STILL NO LUCK
Thanks in advance..........
i would check to see if the file didnt accidentaly got renamed with double .zip.zip at the end. also make sure there are no spaces in the name, redownload the rom with pc not rom manager, put it in the root of sd card, go into recovery manuallly, wipe and try to flash
so root of the SD card meaning not in another file.....just drag it over to the card itself in its own file??? I downloaded the ROM originally from this website....a few different ones and no luck....
yes all you do download then drag and drop to the sd card not inside any folder, do the wipes(if using clockwork recovery wipe data, cache and the go to advance and wipe dalvik cache also) then go to flash zip from sd card, look for your zip and select it wait then reboot, first time will take a while 5 to 10 minutes is reasonable, then once booted let it settle for a couple of minutes, go thru the setup process and reboot again to finish settling everything. make sure you have a full battery in case you run into any issues you dont want your phone dying while flashing anything
Do yourself a favor and get Amon Ra recovery and stop using ROM Manager.
Get amon RA 2.3 recovery and then start flashing roms via recovery instead of rom manager. To get to recovery u can one...power off phone and hold down volume down button and press power, two...after installing a custom rom and then hold power down and select reboot alot of the roms have the option to reboot into recovery, or three...download quickboot from market and use that to reboot into recovery. Once there u can wipe parts of ur phone and also flash roms and mods and u can put the roms or mods anywhere on ur SD card. Also don't forget to make a new nandroid and a single nandroid of ur wimax keys
Ok,
So I installed amon RA 2.3 recovery ....everything went fine, Now my screens are green instead of the orange like they were....my super user icon went from ninja to skull and crossbones....and I also downloaded quickboot from the market................ and made a nandroid backup
So I went in to recovery, selected the option for zip on SD card, selected file and looks like it went with no errors.....rebooted my phone and nothing.....the rom was for a green clock app......the phone just looks stock trim
Awelshhooligan said:
Ok,
So I installed amon RA 2.3 recovery ....everything went fine, Now my screens are green instead of the orange like they were....my super user icon went from ninja to skull and crossbones....and I also downloaded quickboot from the market................ and made a nandroid backup
So I went in to recovery, selected the option for zip on SD card, selected file and looks like it went with no errors.....rebooted my phone and nothing.....the rom was for a green clock app......the phone just looks stock trim
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Those mods can be tricky. Open the modded zip up on ur computer and see the name of the app. U can do the same thing with ur phone if u dl astro or file exployer or root exployer from the market. Go to system then apps and find that app and delete it. The try reflashing the mod via recovery. Uve done everything right its just some apps don't change for some reason
Also don't forget to wipe dalvik cache and cache before and after flashing something
The other thing is that some user made mods use the original framework.res which will change the way your phone is themed or how it "looks"
Golden rules:
1. Always do a nandroid backup before making big changes to your device.
2. Always wipe cache & dalvik manually from within recovery BEFORE flashing any mods.
3. Make sure the mod you are flashing is designed to be used with the particular rom you have installed. All mods are NOT compatible with all roms.
4. If you've screwed up and had not made a nandroid backup before screwing up, go into recovery, wipe EVERYTHING in the wipe menu EXCEPT the SD card and start over.
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[Q] Error When Trying to Flash new Rom

I have Full Root to my phone and am trying to flash new roms. I have tried Rom Manager App and Recovery Boot Process and neither works. I get an error than zip file is bad. I have android Version 2.2
Software #3.70.651.1
When I use ROM Manager and Flash Clockwork Mod, It's says HTC Evo (CDMA). Does the CDMA version stop me from flashing Mods?
PLEASE HELP...
Don't use Rom Manager to flash. If you've tried flashing manually through recovery and you still get errors, try Amon Ra. You can flash it through Rom Manager. Go into Amon Ra, go ahead and do a nandroid backup as backups made with ClockworkMod won't work with Ra, then wipe and flash.
Also, what is the exact error you're getting? And no, CDMA has nothing to do with it.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I did a ROM Backup on ROM Manager. How do I do a Nandroid Backup? and How do I use Amon Ra? Sorry for being totally ignorant to these facts, but I am a complete newbie at this.
The new clockword can't flash certain roms because the scripting has changed. The best way to do it is going to be this way. Open up rom manager, scroll down to the bottom where it says "flash alternate recovery" then click the flash button for amon ra 2.3.. After the has completed reboot into recovery. (turn phone off then hold power and volume down, then select recovery) that will take you to amons recovery. Go to to the backup/restore menu (using the volume keys to navigate, and power button to press "enter" then click then perform a nandroid backup. I would select everything but android secure and sd-card ext. (they take up tons of space) then you will have succesfuly performed a backup of your current setup. I would get used to doing all your flashing through recovery, its much more stable. (recovery is the menu u were just in to perform the backup) Put the zip file of your rom you want to flash on the root of your sd card (not in a folder) Go back into recovery, enter the wipe menu, at least wipe data/factory reset, cache, and dalvik cache. Then go to install zip from sd card, select your rom zip, and click flash, it will then flash the rom for you. hope this helps
corey140 said:
I did a ROM Backup on ROM Manager. How do I do a Nandroid Backup? and How do I use Amon Ra? Sorry for being totally ignorant to these facts, but I am a complete newbie at this.
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Before starting, try to have at least 50% battery and have the rom on the root of your SD card - not in any folders.
The backup you did in Rom Manager is the same as a nandroid backup. If you've already "flashed alternate recovery" in Rom Manager, then power the phone down. Hold down the volume down button and power button at the same time until the phone turns on to a white screen with skating Androids. This is the bootloader/hboot. Check the top and make sure it says ship s-off at the top (if it says s-on then you aren't fully rooted). Assuming you're s-off, use the volume buttons to move up/down the menu. Highlight the option that says "recovery", then press the power button to choose it. Your phone will show the white HTC Evo screen then boot to recovery. From there (using the volume and power buttons like you did before), choose backup/restore, then nandroid backup. Leave the first three options checked then do your backup. When that finishes, go ahead and backup your wimax. Go to the nandroid backup screen, uncheck the first three options with the power button, then check only wimax. Do the backup again. Then go to the wipe menu. Wipe everything in the list except the SD card. When that's finished, go back, then install zip from SD card. Choose zip from SD card, then use the volume up button to go all the way to the bottom. Highlight the rom you want to flash and press the power button. Confirm with the power button, then let it flash. Then reboot.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I really appreciate the help plainjane & jeffm922? Two last questions, hopefully. I am trying this just after rooting my phone about a week ago. I keep seeing things about radios and wimax and kernels, and gingerbread, and other stuff I never heard of...LOL. 1st Question, do I need to download a certain type of radio or wimax or kernels for certain roms??? and 2nd Question, with me only having Version 2.2,which I gues is Froyo, do I only have the capabilities to download Roms for Froyo or doest that change depending on what Rom I install? SORRY AGAIN FOR MY IGNORANCE ON THE MATTER, BUT I'll NEVER KNOW UNLESS I ASK.
THANKS In ADVANCE
corey140 said:
I really appreciate the help plainjane & jeffm922? Two last questions, hopefully. I am trying this just after rooting my phone about a week ago. I keep seeing things about radios and wimax and kernels, and gingerbread, and other stuff I never heard of...LOL. 1st Question, do I need to download a certain type of radio or wimax or kernels for certain roms??? and 2nd Question, with me only having Version 2.2,which I gues is Froyo, do I only have the capabilities to download Roms for Froyo or doest that change depending on what Rom I install? SORRY AGAIN FOR MY IGNORANCE ON THE MATTER, BUT I'll NEVER KNOW UNLESS I ASK.
THANKS In ADVANCE
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Certain roms do require the latest radios, etc. If it does, there will be info in the directions for the rom (usually in the first couple posts). If you do need to flash a radio update, when you reboot from recovery you will see a black screen with an Android in a box or a phone with a down arrow... don't freak out and pull the battery - this screen is part of the radio update. Let it run and it will take you back to recovery when it's finished. If you do pull the battery, you will most likely brick your phone.
There are Gingerbread roms and Froyo roms - you can flash either. Just be sure to read all of the information given on the first page of the thread so you don't miss any info & always do a backup and you'll be fine.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
OK tried flashing SNS v1.3.zip the exact way the instructions you gave me tell me to. It says same thing as it did when I used ROM Manager.
1. Finding update package...
2. Opening Update Package...
and then here it goes
3. Can't open /sdcard/SNS v1.3.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted
What am I doing wrong or not doing at all? I downloaded this Rom off of the following thread [ROM]UPDATE!(4/28/11) SmoothnSexy V1.3, Gingerbread-ish looking Froyo/SENSE
from this site.
Also noticed this when doing fastboot PC36DIAG.zip
Is this correct?
HAve a buddy with an evo, his is doing exacly the same thing..... helllppp
rwon said:
HAve a buddy with an evo, his is doing exacly the same thing..... helllppp
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Do you have Amon RA Recovery. Did you install it and when you hold the power and vol- button together, you get a white screen. At the top does it say S-OFF?
If so, then proceed to go to the recovery. If it is Amon RA, it will be green. If it is the latest version of clockwork (which you don't want to use), then, it's orange.
If it's green, then wipe cache, data, boot, system, dalvik cache, sd-ext (if you have it) and then flash your ROM.
ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP FIRST from whatever Recovery you are using. Clockword(orange lettering), does not support Edify scripting, only Amend. If you have Amon RA(green lettering), it supports both edify and amend scripting.
I did this but it says skipping Wipe od SDEXT...
Could this be the problem?
says skipping Wipe of SDEXT...
not
skipping Wipe od SDEXT...
Something else to take into consideration, your SD card may need to be re-formatted as well. Try this:
Once you have Amon-RA installed, and you are booted into it, then connect the phone to your computer via the USB cable. Navigate to USB-MS Toggle and activate it, you should now be able to copy everything from the card to your computer (re-partitioning will erase everything on the card).
After you have backed up, you can use the partition SDCard menu to repartition and reformat your card. Or you can use the Wipe menu to just format the SDCard - though I would re-partition it just to ensure the file system on the card is truly reset. If you do re-partition, use 0 for a swap (most ROMs don't use it), use anywhere from 0-500MB for the ext (this will be mostly used by app2sd, and not a requirement of the ROM, so it is optional), and the rest of your card size for the remainder (this will be partitioned as FAT32, I believe).
Once that process is complete, you can copy your ROM back over to the card (USB-MS toggle) and try again.
I had similar issues with MY Evo (using the SD card that came with it), re-partitioning it worked like a charm in clearing out all of the problems I had been experiencing. Good Luck!
BigJohn
corey140 said:
I did this but it says skipping Wipe od SDEXT...
Could this be the problem?
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That's not the problem. You are s-off correct? I've never heard of that rom, you got it from the Evo Development forums, right? Make sure it's compatible with your phone.
I've seen this problem before, so do a search and see what the solution was.
EDIT: Do what Big John said, that sounds like a likely culprit.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
corey140 said:
I did this but it says skipping Wipe od SDEXT...
Could this be the problem?
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SDEXT is just the EXT partition on the SD card (if there is one, see my previous post). What you are seeing is recovery just telling you that this partition doesn't exist.
BigJohn
Get aman ra for sure then do it all thru recovery
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THANKS TO EVERYONE!!! Needed to Partition SD CARD and reflash ROM...WORKING GREAT NOW!!!
glad to hear
corey140 said:
THANKS TO EVERYONE!!! Needed to Partition SD CARD and reflash ROM...WORKING GREAT NOW!!!
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I've had the same problem you are having and I'm about to try what everyone has suggested on your post. Question though... when you partition your SD does it delete everything on the SD card? And did you partition the SD before or after what everyone suggested? Thanks!

Need Help with Restoring Backup

I was wiping my phone with RA Recovery when I accidentally wiped my SD card clean. I have a Nandroid backup on my laptop which I was able to get my SD Card but it was backed up using clockworkmod. I flashed the updated RA Recovery 3.07 which should allow me to restore a clockworkmod backup but when I got to restore, I get "E: No clockworkmod nandroid-backup files found." When I go into "Nand Restore" it shows the nandroid backup which is labeled "2011-10-29.15.59.35". After I select it, it shows me all the files inside that folder. Can anyone help me figure out how to get this restore working?
I have a feeling the folder isn't labeled correctly for the RA Recovery to notice the Clockworkmod nandroid. I have it located in a folder titled, "nandroid" which is what RA puts them in.
Its either that, or perhaps that version of clockworkmod isn't compatible, because I know that they started saving as .tgz in CWM and older backups weren't compatible...so you may have to revert to that old version of CWM, restore, update to the lastest CWM and then back it up again.
I just figured it out. I needed to put a folder titled "Clockworkmod" and a folder inside that labeled "backup" so that ra would see that backup. Phone is fixed and running again.
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