4g on AOSP rant... - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

what do people find so hard to understand that in order for 4g to work on aosp (ie. MIUI, Cyanogen), we need the proprietary wimax drivers from samsung???
the only other option is to have somebody code the drivers from scratch.
this has been asked and answered dozens of times in these threads, why are people so thick that they can't accept the answer???
you want it? learn to code and build it!
rant over... that feels better

Wizard Knight said:
what do people find so hard to understand that in order for 4g to work on aosp (ie. MIUI, Cyanogen), we need the proprietary wimax drivers from samsung???
the only other option is to have somebody code the drivers from scratch.
this has been asked and answered dozens of times in these threads, why are people so thick that they can't accept the answer???
you want it? learn to code and build it!
rant over... that feels better
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hahahahaha seeing the same thing over and over again being asked really drives you crazy huh? I know the feeling....lol
Good rant though

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... Lol jk i understand your fustration

I agree. I cringe everytime someone asks.
MIUI Powered GSII

What's 4G?
Due to recent events of not recognizing my humor, I hereby post this disclaimer: It's humor-not meant to offend anyone. That is all.

I understand you can't always read back. when I'm using the app on the phone, it's a pain in the ass and search isn't worth crap. but I get insane when I'm trying to look for updates on something from work real fast and I have to go through:
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
2 posts later
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
AAAAHHHHH!!!!! >_<

Wizard Knight said:
I understand you can't always read back. when I'm using the app on the phone, it's a pain in the ass and search isn't worth crap. but I get insane when I'm trying to look for updates on something from work real fast and I have to go through:
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
2 posts later
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
AAAAHHHHH!!!!! >_<
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I feel your pain. But, unless one of these recurring questions goes woefully unanswered I'll just shut up. I used to try diligently to educate everyone as they filed in the new-recruits barracks. I've done that a lot over the years as nerdy hobbies of mine have actually taken root in mainstream society...and I've also noticed the same pattern.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's the natural progression of the situation. The thing is we are just at the beginning of the smart-phone era. No, I don't mean the prehistoric smart-phone era, pre iphone. This is the beginning of the 'modern' smartphone era. Post-iPhone/Android. The vast majority of people who own cellphones still do not have a smartphone....so...this 'issue' is only going to get worse and worse and worse. Even though we are but a tiny sliver of the smartphone owning population our ranks will continue to swell for years. What was the last number I read, over 800,000+ Android activations *per day*!??? That is a rate that is only increasing. This time last year I think it was hovering around 150k a day and I was blown away....
...interesting times.

So is 4g working on Miui? :sly::what:
Sorry, I couldn't resist
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XDA needs a system like this http://xkcd.com/810/

Yes, either hound the ever living **** out of Samsung on Twitter and Facebook to release the code or do it yourself.

It is true though ...everything anyone would ever want to know has been posted dozens of times. I think people just get frustrated if they get back wrong results in "search"
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So 4G is now available on AOSP! Awesome! I was just going to ask for an ETA, too.

The thing that I dont get, and Im just putting this out there......if you tweak your wimax radio setting on the OG Epic, the Nexus S, or the Epic 4g Touch (##DATA#), they all have the same settings, they are all Samsung phones, and they are all "Galaxy S" devices in one form or another.....so dont they use the same WIMAX radios? If so, the drivers are right there in the Nexus.

shiftr182 said:
The thing that I dont get, and Im just putting this out there......if you tweak your wimax radio setting on the OG Epic, the Nexus S, or the Epic 4g Touch (##DATA#), they all have the same settings, they are all Samsung phones, and they are all "Galaxy S" devices in one form or another.....so dont they use the same WIMAX radios? If so, the drivers are right there in the Nexus.
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Interesting question. I know that the dialer code is slightly different on NS4G (*#*#data#*#*) but I do have my WiMax settings exactly the same.
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shiftr182 said:
The thing that I dont get, and Im just putting this out there......if you tweak your wimax radio setting on the OG Epic, the Nexus S, or the Epic 4g Touch (##DATA#), they all have the same settings, they are all Samsung phones, and they are all "Galaxy S" devices in one form or another.....so dont they use the same WIMAX radios? If so, the drivers are right there in the Nexus.
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Based on the tear down one of the sites did the E4GT has a different wimax chip made by Toshiba while the NS4G has a Samsung chip. I also saw someone claim that they are actually the same, one was just a rebranding of the other or something like that.
Basically it boils down to someone needing to actually go debug the 4G and see if the already existing CM7 code can work with minor tweaking or if reverse engineering of the drivers is required.

They need to have a auto ban script enabled for when aosp and Wimax/4g are mentioned within 500 characters of each other.
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BrandoKC said:
Yes, either hound the ever living **** out of Samsung on Twitter and Facebook to release the code or do it yourself.
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I think it would be easier to put in the 4G not working like they used to do in EVO and they do in NS4G forums, or they can also say 4G will never work. Saying this because they always include what is not working while publishing all AOSP roms.

tenaciousj said:
They need to have a auto ban script enabled for when aosp and Wimax/4g are mentioned within 500 characters of each other.
Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch.
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Wouldn't you get banned for this post too then?

ker0zene said:
Wouldn't you get banned for this post too then?
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Good point. I support this idea.

Not sure what specific wimax radio the touch uses, but usually it is the radio manufacturers being closed, not the phone manufacturer. Wimax is mostly proprietary technology. In order to get access to the detailed radio datasheet, which is needed to write the drivers, you usually need to be high volume and sign an nda not to share it. I can almost guarantee Samsung can't release the wimax code because of these nda's.
Curious how they got it working on the evo.
Edit: so the touch uses the Toshiba TC31501AAMBG for wimax. Link of you find a detailed datasheet for it.
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why no 4g with gingerbread

Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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What does Hugh have to do with this?
:........5 topics down from this one....
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sdc177 said:
What does Hugh have to do with this?
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It's all his fault, duh. He apparently didn't know which part of the rom to put the 4 gees in.
really??????
There is a gingerbread rom with 4g. Or wimax... try looking on the front page......also the reason why 4g and HDMI are difficult is because they are tied into sense.
Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?
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Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?
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so all gingerbread phones are HTC phones?
dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?
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lol, that was funny
ycats said:
so all gingerbread phones are HTC phones?
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dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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What does Hugh have to do with this?
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It's all his fault, duh. He apparently didn't know which part of the rom to put the 4 gees in.
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Because of Hugh's obvious error with 4G/HDMI in Gingerbread, he has been fired. Development will now be handled by HTC. They promise a Gingerbread ROM with 4G and HDMI in… 8 months. 10/5/2011: mark your calendars.
dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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Look a couple of threads down and see the CM7 W/ WiMax thread. Its based off of CM7 Nightly build 24.
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Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?
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That is the funniest **** I have read in a long time...sigged
Lmao I couldn't stop laughing for a while, I knew he would get flame, anyways back to the topic Idk how much knowledge you have about development roms in general and what stage the Evo is in the moment, to start the Evo is in froyo version 2.2 (there is a version 2.2.1 and 2.2.2) and it was released by sprint/HTC which they make the codes for the front facing camera (back then it was the first Android device with it that I know) , 4G and HDMI so they practically used they own source not android (but it did involved android) now cm7(gingerbread 2.3.2) is based on AOSP (android open source project) and the developer/s cynogen get all their source from Google android open source which back then(eclair 2.1/froyo 2.2) they didn't have a way to make the ffc camera and wimax (now they have ffc camera but not wimax or HDMI) , what really good developers are doing is writing a code for wimax almost 8 months later (is really hard to make it from scratch is not just a copy and paste job, they been working on it for months ) to work on an aosp rom which is great, the ones on sense (wimax/4G) don't work cause is tied to sense framework, so until HTC realease a official update the Evo will be considerer gingerbread (2.3.1/2.3.2) and HDMI and4G will work if they ever update it BTW this thing ain't easy to do and that's one thing the android fragmentation with all carriers and phone makers have a problem with and that's where cynogen mod come to the rescue ha ha, cm/sense user BTW
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hahahhahahahh
you fail
back to business: there is none, because gingerbread roms are roms from either the sdk or nexus s that have been ported. the devs had to re-write all the kernel codes and radio codes and everything. that is FREAKING HARD TO DO!
recently, toastchf and shinzul actually wrote a wimax code to work on gingerbread. THEY FREAKING REVERSE ENGINEERED WHAT PROBABLY TOOK HTC/SPRINT MONTHS. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?
where is your development? i see none. i just see you asking for something that took months of hard work that is actually like 3 threads below yours.
edit: just realized i'm in the q&a section. srry... regret...
dkdude36 said:
hahahhahahahh
you fail
back to business: there is none, because gingerbread roms are roms from either the sdk or nexus s that have been ported. the devs had to re-write all the kernel codes and radio codes and everything. that is FREAKING HARD TO DO!
recently, toastchf and shinzul actually wrote a wimax code to work on gingerbread. THEY FREAKING REVERSE ENGINEERED WHAT PROBABLY TOOK HTC/SPRINT MONTHS. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?
where is your development? i see none. i just see you asking for something that took months of hard work that is actually like 3 threads below yours.
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Thank you i was about to say the same thing
Holy ****...I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks...I needed that. Seriously laughed until I cried.
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nol3n said:
Holy ****...I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks...I needed that. Seriously laughed until I cried.
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+1 on that... I honestly see more people asking real (hate to say it) stupid questions in here more than anything else. Nobody takes the time out to look for sh&t and then get mad when they are told to do some research. Thats why we have pages and pages of people destroying their phones. Keep up the good work guys of smacking people like this around it keeps me coming back and laughing....
P.S.A - People do some lurking before you ask dumb questions and do some searching as well. Don't root flash or do anything related to that until you do your damn homework.... Deuces!

Devs I need answers...please look

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12873083
I am trying to figure out the mms problem. Seems no one knows or has any answers. Please just look and maybe give some insight
stkiswr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12873083
I am trying to figure out the mms problem. Seems no one knows or has any answers. Please just look and maybe give some insight
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Konane incomming.
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Konane incomming.
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lmao!
If it gets locked that's fine. I have posted this question in q/a and either no one can answer or haven't read it. I have researched. Posted. Questioned. Now expanding to try to lock down an answer.
I use Facebook flow to do batch pic uploads. Its in the market. Once you log into the app and you go o to gallery and select multiple pics you then select facebook floe to upload them. As far as the pics rotating on you yeah it is annoying. I just take all my pics In landscape mode so they don't come out sideways.
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Thanks for the app. I don't need it for my Evo as it does multiple uploads but my wife's epic can use that. But I am sure you and every other person that owns a non HTC phone would not only benifit but would be happy to have this fixed. Like u said...irritating. so much technology and this irritating issue that should be able to be corrected. Thanks for posting useful advice.
Moved to Q&A.
Someone say my name?
mmmhmmm
stkiswr said:
Thanks for the app. I don't need it for my Evo as it does multiple uploads but my wife's epic can use that. But I am sure you and every other person that owns a non HTC phone would not only benifit but would be happy to have this fixed. Like u said...irritating. so much technology and this irritating issue that should be able to be corrected. Thanks for posting useful advice.
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Is it just me, or does this just seem more like a "HTC is better" spammer? Either way, Most major problems are solved by apps, such as the Facebook app mentioned above. Plus, no one seems bothered by the portrait/landscape extra step. So that is why no developer is wasting their time with it. The developers on here work hard to fix the short comings of stock phones (Such as seriously lacking battery life) Which, with my a new ROM and Kernel, I had over 20 hours of battery life today while TRYING to kill my battery. So I would say the developers are doing a splendid job, and you just come off ungrateful.
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Someone say my name?
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The nerve! They toss you around like a wet skank onboard the black pearl!
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Ungrateful for wanting a mms issue resolved within the software? Blah, you are officially talking out your ass. HTC spammers? Conspiracy theory's? Lmao. Just be nice to come up with a fix for said problem. Why HTC can and others can't beyond me but spamming as you say a brand like HTC. Well, that's the truth and I am correct in my statement and have verified on other phones. Did you not read my post where I praised xda? Notice my post said devs? I meant that in hopes of not receiving comments as such as I believe this is a feasible question. You sir discredit the notion that people might attain information via other forums.
Question still stands? Thanks in advance!
Simple answer: HTC added a feature. There's no bug in the others. HTC is tagging the photos to mark which ones are portrait, then displaying them rotated. The pictures, though, are actually still in landscape, just turned to the side as your phone is.
http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us...r-search&action=devloc&q=mms+android+problems
I guess I will just drop it. You say its fine. I say its not. I and all these people bought a phone and "thought" it sent them correctly.
stkiswr said:
http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us...r-search&action=devloc&q=mms+android+problems
I guess I will just drop it. You say its fine. I say its not. I and all these people bought a phone and "thought" it sent them correctly.
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It does send them correctly - it sends the image file as it exists on the device.
I understand that part. Then do you know a file I could reconfigure using root explorer to modify?
Cmon, save the world. Birth kittens and help me fix it.
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I understand that part. Then do you know a file I could reconfigure using root explorer to modify?
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You would have to modify the MMS app itself.
K. Maybe enough people will see this and pitch in. Still waiting for kittens
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K. Maybe enough people will see this and pitch in. Still waiting for kittens
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Lmao
Why not try some other mms apps in the market? While the devs here often help when they can, it its usually because many people want something changed, you are the only one who seems to need this purely cosmetic feature. On top of that, this site is for learning and developing. If no one wants to use their time to make you an app, their are plenty of resources for you to do it yourself. Or show a high need for the feature to entice the developers. At the moment you are the only one who cares.
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[Q] is the leaked 2.3.3 or just a cover up of 2.2

went to a sprint store and the sprint representive said the EE03 for the epic 4g was a fake and was not the real gingerbread but a covered up version of 2.2 froyo is this really true????
Lol are you serious? The guys messing with you
xDDDDD. Wait you were serious? Sorry.
He's messing with you man. EE03 is a leaked version of 2.3.3, it most certainly NOT 2.2!
No. Otherwise Netflix wouldn't work on it. It is NOT an official release but a beta version. There will be later versions before it is released.
i can't speak for others, but IMHO the devs in this community know more than 99% of "Sprint store" employees about what is going on with the epic and with gingerbread.
Have you tried running the leaked EE03 rom? it has some functionality to it that is definitely an improvement over stock EC05 froyo, but also definitely a little way to go before a fully functional gingerbread release.
on a different note -- anyone hear about the progress of EE19?
i can haz moar ginjurbreds nao?
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i can't speak for others, but IMHO the devs in this community know more than 99% of "Sprint store" employees about what is going on with the epic and with gingerbread.
Have you tried running the leaked EE03 rom? it has some functionality to it that is definitely an improvement over stock EC05 froyo, but also definitely a little way to go before a fully functional gingerbread release.
on a different note -- anyone hear about the progress of EE19?
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yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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sounds like they just wanted to try to sell you a new phone. nexus s may have some things that are better than the epic (like being a purely google device), but with these gingerleaks here and the real gingerbread on the way the epic is still the best phone for me.
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sounds like they just wanted to try to sell you a new phone. nexus s may have some things that are better than the epic (like being a purely google device), but with these gingerleaks here and the real gingerbread on the way the epic is still the best phone for me.
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I Totally have to agree the epic 4g is clearly a better phone if you screw up with it or something i have always been able to reset it and sprint techs not even having a clue i did that.
So, I work for sprint and I can tell you that xda has more info than we do. They don't really tell us much at all, xda would have info up for weeks before they officially tell us anything. Kind of funny
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I am so stealing that.
catman9712 said:
yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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Cell store employees are i my personnel experience are dumb ass mofos. like car salesmen.
I Verizon tech fried my phone once, I was out of state & the ****ing pricks would not upgrade my phone on the spot after that. I was so pissed a cop came & then the cop sided with me and told them ther where full of **** & left after i told him i would not kick there asss all over the store
Go back in there and tell him how stupid he is.
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Oh I did tell them how stupid they was
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Oh I did tell them how stupid they was
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were. how stupid they were.
.. shakes magic 8-ball...
My sources say NO
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are. how stupid they are.
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FTFY
I don't think anything magically made them smarter overnight...
he has no clue its the same issue my verzon friends with the fascinate were having they were told the update they had was froyo (2.2) when verizon only had a cover up of eclair at the time (2.1.2)
the LEAKED gingerbread is not within their knoledge because it is leaked, thus we know more than they do... because they only know OFFICIAL RELEASES
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I am so stealing that.
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me too, love it.

It was fun, but it's time to move on from the Nitro HD

Just got a Galaxy Nexus. Ah, official Jelly Bean goodness.
Hope they release a stable CM10 soon for the Nitro so that you guys won't have to endure the bugs in the nightlies any longer.
hm...did not have to create a new thread for the non-essential information
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hm...did not have to create a new thread for the non-essential information
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+1
It makes sense.. I mean. It's general discussion and it is about the Nitro HD. Plus, is responding really helping?
Yeah, I decided to move on too...
Now, I'm waiting for Galaxy Note 2. I found that 4.5" screen is too small (but tablet is too big) for me.
Guys, I need your help. What is the actual price for used device in ideal condition (without scratches) I can ask - with two cases and new screen protector?
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You'd probably be lucky to get $300 because people are retards and think phones like the iPhone are awesome.
If any of you are offloading for cheap I may be interested. Its either snag a nitro for the wife or start tinkering with her infuse.
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not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.
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not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.
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Anyways I just wanted to say thanks to HO!NO! and Andasa (not sure where he went...woulda been a prodigy ) and of course the CM Team (aremcee). I'm moving on from this too. Loved this phone, and will drop in from time to time as my brother is taking this, but I just wanted to say thanks to the awesome XDA community here.
Edit: Just got a galaxy s3. Loving it, but I'm using my nitro for a while.
Whatever happened to HO! NO!?
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not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.
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Let's see, not only is the Nexus a newer phone than the Nitro (Oct 2011 for Nitro, Nov 2011 for Nexus), but it:
1) Actually has stable Jelly Bean from Google
2) Actually can make it through a day of heavy use and still have battery left over
3) Actually has more than 3 person developing for it
4) Runs twice as smoothly as the Nitro, and crashes...well, never.
But since you're on here bashing anyone who criticizes the faults of the Nitro, I guess I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard either. Nor would I expect you to understand the logic behind why I went with the Nexus and not the One X or SGS3, or why one of my friends, an admin here on XDA, still keeps his Galaxy Nexus as a daily driver despite having an SGS3 and getting free phones to test all the time. But I'll give you a hint: specs alone don't determine the user experience.
scott0 said:
not sure why you felt the need to make a ****ty remark about the cm10 guys on your way out but then again, you are here crowing about getting a year old phone so I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard.
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I don't understand where this is coming from. Looking at the 996gt2's original post, he didn't insult anyone at all. He just said he hoped the bugs with CM are worked out.
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Let's see, not only is the Nexus a newer phone than the Nitro (Oct 2011 for Nitro, Nov 2011 for Nexus), but it:
1) Actually has stable Jelly Bean from Google
2) Actually can make it through a day of heavy use and still have battery left over
3) Actually has more than 3 person developing for it
4) Runs twice as smoothly as the Nitro, and crashes...well, never.
But since you're on here bashing anyone who criticizes the faults of the Nitro, I guess I shouldn't hold you to too high of a standard either. Nor would I expect you to understand the logic behind why I went with the Nexus and not the One X or SGS3, or why one of my friends, an admin here on XDA, still keeps his Galaxy Nexus as a daily driver despite having an SGS3 and getting free phones to test all the time. But I'll give you a hint: specs alone don't determine the user experience.
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well, i am sure you are well on your way to getting that rocket science project designed with your nexus, it will certainly get those daily tasks done that much better than the nitro, so much so that you felt the need to let us all know about your big decision.
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I don't understand where this is coming from. Looking at the 996gt2's original post, he didn't insult anyone at all. He just said he hoped the bugs with CM are worked out.
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i couldn't care less if you understand where this is coming from, if you wanted to understand, you'd do a search and find for yourself the op's incessant ****-talking about cm.
again though, i could not give 2 ****s if you get my post or not.
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well, i am sure you are well on your way to getting that rocket science project designed with your nexus, it will certainly get those daily tasks done that much better than the nitro, so much so that you felt the need to let us all know about your big decision.
i couldn't care less if you understand where this is coming from, if you wanted to understand, you'd do a search and find for yourself the op's incessant ****-talking about cm.
again though, i could not give 2 ****s if you get my post or not.
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Alright, I think the discussions have crossed the line with these last comments. There is no one perfect device for everyone... unless, of course, you are one of the Sheeple who believes everything Apple says. If we're so worried that someone else prefers another phone over what we have chosen ourselves, we may as well be playing for the other team.
Anyway, fun time's over, and as such:
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(And yes. FWIW, I prefer my Galaxy Nexus over all of my other Android devices, including my Galaxy S III.)

Will it ever even be possible to have a working 4.0+ for the EVO 4G?

Dozens of people all working on ICS and JB roms but not a single one of them are fully working.
Without HTC's help in releasing the drivers for the FFC and camcorder will there ever even be a working rom or are all of them just going to miss out on features of the phone forever? 4G not working is fine since 4G EVO version is not going anywhere, but missing out on the camcorder and FFC are big deals..
Seems like this topic comes up at least once a week now, in some way or another.
To answer your question though, no. Without the source for the drivers, developers would have to come up with it from scratch, which is very meticulous and time-consuming as I understand it. Sure, the possibility exists, but I believe the chance of it happening is slim to none. Not that I think the developers couldn't do it, but we're talking about a device that's 2+ years old now. There are newer and greater devices out there that are still being supported, not only by great developers but also the manufacturer, which is key to this entire issue. When the OG lost the support of HTC and went EOL with Sprint, it was pretty much game over as far as source code ever went. If you want a fully-functional ROM, stick with GB-that's where the OG shines
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Dozens of people all working on ICS and JB roms but not a single one of them are fully working.
Without HTC's help in releasing the drivers for the FFC and camcorder will there ever even be a working rom or are all of them just going to miss out on features of the phone forever? 4G not working is fine since 4G EVO version is not going anywhere, but missing out on the camcorder and FFC are big deals..
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As you can see the development for the OG is just about dead,theres no real reason for anyone to attempt to make a driver for it,the phone is close to being obsolete,so it would be useless.
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As you can see the development for the OG is just about dead,theres no real reason for anyone to attempt to make a driver for it,the phone is close to being obsolete,so it would be useless.
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What I really wonder is why HTC wouldn't release the drivers for a phone that's already EOL...but I guess they want to force us to upgrade...and it's working.
aarsyl said:
What I really wonder is why HTC wouldn't release the drivers for a phone that's already EOL...but I guess they want to force us to upgrade...and it's working.
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One word, money!!!
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One word, money!!!
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Yea....I kinda answered my own question there...lol
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I completely agree, as long as they feel that they could loose profit by having potential customers sticking with their old phone, they wont release a thing. But when ICS is old news, then don't be to shocked if they just happen to go ahead, and out if pitty, throw it our way.
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But it would sure be nice if they had the heart to let us have it now.
That's why my next phone is going to be a nexus .
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What I really wonder is why HTC wouldn't release the drivers for a phone that's already EOL...but I guess they want to force us to upgrade...and it's working.
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They can't release something they don't have. Do you really think they would write drivers for a device they no longer support? That's a waste of time and resources better spent working on currently supported devices.
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Hmm...point taken.
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I'd like to make the drivers...theyre linux drivers in their base...I wonder what porting them from GB would really take. It be a great show of solidarity among OG Evo 4g users and a big middle finger to Sprint and HTC. Also, really kick ass. At any rate, maybe instead of *****in we should be learnin.
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LordJezo said:
Dozens of people all working on ICS and JB roms but not a single one of them are fully working.
Without HTC's help in releasing the drivers for the FFC and camcorder will there ever even be a working rom or are all of them just going to miss out on features of the phone forever? 4G not working is fine since 4G EVO version is not going anywhere, but missing out on the camcorder and FFC are big deals..
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It's true, but I believe it's because there are a lot more newer devices that are being supported. This is an old phone and i'm surprised it's still being developed. For me, I'm using this JB Rom and loving it so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947452.
I do believe there will never be a fully functioning JB ROM cause the camera drivers don't match up. Not to mention the EVO hit its max software with GB. Anything past that starts to lag. Having that issue now with JB on my Nexus S.
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Could have asked here I suppose, sorry
It hit the Desire HD, those ports have been made!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539423

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