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Acer Iconia 7" for $190 a good deal?

I saw this in slickdeals.net and wanted to know if this was a good deal from those who own one. Maybe a first hand experience. The cameras and specs are what's attracting me. There's some discrepancy whether its new or refurbished. Thanks.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=220986061457&cmd=VIDESC
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I paid $189 for mine on black Friday, and while it's definitly not the best tablet out there, for that price it's not so bad. I'd pick it over a Nook Color or a Kindle Fire becasue you get a morefully funtional tablet.
Main weaknesses are batterly life and just a rather low quality screen. The only only thing I might consider is that Asus is coming out with a $250 tablet sometime this year that should meet and probably beat the specs of of the A100. Unless they just really cut some corners, it'll probably be worth the extra $60. But if you want a tablet today for $200 and can get an A100 for that, I'd say for for it. You probaly won't get anything better for that price.

iamdestruktor said:
I saw this in slickdeals.net and wanted to know if this was a good deal from those who own one. Maybe a first hand experience. The cameras and specs are what's attracting me. There's some discrepancy whether its new or refurbished. Thanks.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=220986061457&cmd=VIDESC
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Yes, that is a great deal.
bsharitt said:
I paid $189 for mine on black Friday, and while it's definitly not the best tablet out there, for that price it's not so bad. I'd pick it over a Nook Color or a Kindle Fire becasue you get a morefully funtional tablet.
Main weaknesses are batterly life and just a rather low quality screen. The only only thing I might consider is that Asus is coming out with a $250 tablet sometime this year that should meet and probably beat the specs of of the A100. Unless they just really cut some corners, it'll probably be worth the extra $60. But if you want a tablet today for $200 and can get an A100 for that, I'd say for for it. You probaly won't get anything better for that price.
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Anyone would pick it over a nook color, and it seems better than the kindle fire (It is in my opinion). Also, that tablet which you are talking about - The Asus Memo - has probably been "canceled" (It may still come, but stripped down of the most attractive features in previous rumors.There are various places discussing this).

iamdestruktor said:
I saw this in slickdeals.net and wanted to know if this was a good deal from those who own one. Maybe a first hand experience. The cameras and specs are what's attracting me. There's some discrepancy whether its new or refurbished. Thanks.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=220986061457&cmd=VIDESC
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Its not a bad deal but it is a refurb. Just make sure Acer will still provide you the 1 year warranty for it. It says refurbished by manufacturer OR manufacturer approved vendor so check also with the seller who refurbed it if it makes a difference to you. Or you can always try craigslist but you'll probably get used ones only but they wont be refurbs however warranty will not be a full year on them anymore.

I've already gotten a Nook Color and put CM7 on it. While its great and stuff, I just feel like it's not a fully functional tablet like when it comes to videos and even gaming. Ah damn decisions, decisions!
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If rumors are to be believed, the Asus MeMo has been cancelled in favor of whatever Google Nexus tablet is being prepared.

iamdestruktor said:
I've already gotten a Nook Color and put CM7 on it. While its great and stuff, I just feel like it's not a fully functional tablet like when it comes to videos and even gaming. Ah damn decisions, decisions!
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That was quick lol. My coworker has a nook tablet with cm7 also and I wasnt overly impressed with it. It was kinda choppy. Browsing wasn't great on it either. I told him to exchange it for an a100 but he never did. It was for his gf so I guess as long as she was happy with it he didn't care too much lol.

littleemp said:
If rumors are to be believed, the Asus MeMo has been cancelled in favor of whatever Google Nexus tablet is being prepared.
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Rumors are strongly indicating that the Asus MeMo has been cancelled and is going to be the basis for the sub-$200 Google Nexus tablet, but the most attractive feature -the Tegra 3 processor - will be removed in favor of a Snapdragon dual core.
If true that is a total bummer, I was planning on getting one but now think I'll just stick with the A100 until the next generation comes out, probably Q3 or Q4.
For under $200 I think the A100 is still probably the best 7" fully functional dual core tablet out there (w/ GPS, microSD slot, full HC / soon-to-be stock ICS system, etc); most comparable tabs are still over $300 at this point. It blows the Kindle Fire away for sure (we have two of those for wife and kid, there is no comparison).

I've had a Nook Color for a while now.. went from CM7 to CM9, and it is nice. But, it lacks the "horsepower" that the A100 has, without breaking the bank.
I got my A100 today. Paid about $180 after shipping after seeing it on Woot. I have a feeling my NC will become very lonely... so, a gift for the girlfriend!

Pretty good deal from what I can tell. It is a Refurb but still a great price. I grabbed one. Did anyone notice that this is for the VanGogh edition?
Other than 1GB instead of 512MB Ram is there any other differences?
Will this affect any of the Development (unlock, custom recovery, Rom's, ETC) that are in this forum?
In other words I would hate to flash something that was developed for the "standard" device and have it "brick" my VanGogh unit. If anyone can offer details I would appreciate it.
TIA

Land Master said:
Pretty good deal from what I can tell. It is a Refurb but still a great price. I grabbed one. Did anyone notice that this is for the VanGogh edition?
Other than 1GB instead of 512MB Ram is there any other differences?
Will this affect any of the Development (unlock, custom recovery, Rom's, ETC) that are in this forum?
In other words I would hate to flash something that was developed for the "standard" device and have it "brick" my VanGogh unit. If anyone can offer details I would appreciate it.
TIA
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What's the VanGogh edition? I'm having mixed thoughts this morning after purchasing last night. Please tell me its special or something!
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How would you guys compare the a100 to a 16 gb HP touchpad running CM 9? Let's say one could find them for around the same price.

iamdestruktor said:
What's the VanGogh edition? I'm having mixed thoughts this morning after purchasing last night. Please tell me its special or something!
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It's special . I have the "vangogh" edition but there's no real difference from what you can tell. NB.: It is the GEN2 version (GEN1 roms still work though). Even though it didn't recieve the 3.2.1 update, I haven't noticed the issues mentioned by users of the GEN1 while running 3.2 (which the GEN2 also comes with).
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How would you guys compare the a100 to a 16 gb HP touchpad running CM 9? Let's say one could find them for around the same price.
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I would go for the Acer a100 since it is natively android and will have support for more apps (especially when running the modified build.prop). It's size provides more comfort for doing many things (also more portable) plus it's camera is much better than that of the touchpad.

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How would you guys compare the a100 to a 16 gb HP touchpad running CM 9? Let's say one could find them for around the same price.
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IMO the size difference will make the biggest difference. The touchpad is very heavy and is a 10 inch tablet. You will never take it anywhere with you. After you put a case on it itll feel like you're carrying a laptop. My brother has one and he only uses it at home but from what he tells me it is pretty smooth with cm9. I've only gotten to play around with it for a few minutes but not with cm9. But wow it is heavy.
In comparison I have a transformer prime. Even though it is much faster and thinner its still a 10 inch tablet and its not easy to carry around with me. I mainly use it at home or work but I never take it with me anywhere else. The a100 however I can easily put in my pocket or give it to my gf to put in her purse for me. So a lot of times thats what I take with me. So you may need to consider what you want to use it for since you're really not gonna se a huge major difference in software (unless you get a prime). Portability might be the key for you.

A100 does or will have ICS natively in the future?
I've seen some youtube vids of the A100 running ICS fairly smoothly.
So performance wise, an overclocked/stock clock Touchpad running ICS should be equal to an A100 running ICS?
720p/1080p video, same thing?
Which one is easier to type short emails on? I'm guessing the touchpad's larger interface, multitouch would be better suited for it?

How is battery life during use and sleep?

Good deal. I've got a fire but honestly I would buy this over a fire for that price.

Just got one for my wife and thinking about getting one for myself now since I played around with it. Nice size and weight. Use to have the a500 but didn't like the weight of it. 7" is a perfect size for me. If what everybody is saying us true about the Asus 7" tab then I will more likely get the a100..
If you wanting to type on any tablet take a look at thumb keyboard. It splits the keyboard apart making it easier to type with your thumbs. No stretching across the screen to get at letters.
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Bricked my Nexus S, should i get a GNex now?

Is it still worth getting the Galaxy Nexus? should i wait until it has been dropped in price because of the new one or how much will the new Nexus be?
Money is tight and i live in australia, thanks.
Info: Nexus S has a cracked screen, wont respond to jig/unbrickable and i dont want to tamper with the inside.

Considering that we're (likely) a couple weeks away from knowing some good details on a next-generation Nexus device, I'd just hold off if you can. The Galaxy Nexus goes for about $400 internationally right now, but if it continues to be on sale when the new one comes out it'll surely drop in price. Not to mention that if you're willing to buy used you'll be able to get one for next to nothing.
If money is an issue then you're likely going to be looking at the Galaxy Nexus rather than the new one (unless Google does some crazy pricing), so I'd just wait a couple weeks and see.

If the specs we're seeing about the new Nexus are accurate, I'd stick with the GNex. 8MB of internal storage with no SD slot is a bit of a joke. You're also only looking at a moderate upgrade on the screen and processor, from what I've been hearing.
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It's always worth getting a Nexus.

Pierceye said:
If the specs we're seeing about the new Nexus are accurate, I'd stick with the GNex. 8GB of internal storage with no SD slot is a bit of a joke. You're also only looking at a moderate upgrade on the screen and processor, from what I've been hearing.
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We don't know the final storage options when the phone goes on sale, so I find it funny that people are already recommending against it based on what a prototype device has for storage. You'll also never seen an SDcard in a Nexus, so that's not even a knock on it.
We also don't know what the screen is like. LG is well known for very good IPS screens, so we'll see.
How is going from an OMAP4 to a S4 Pro quad-core a "moderate upgrade". Are you high?
Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
It all hinges on pricing and how much you're willing to spend, but if the LG Nexus turns out with the specs that we've seen, it's going to be a very worth-while upgrade.

martonikaj said:
We don't know the final storage options when the phone goes on sale, so I find it funny that people are already recommending against it based on what a prototype device has for storage. You'll also never seen an SDcard in a Nexus, so that's not even a knock on it.
We also don't know what the screen is like. LG is well known for very good IPS screens, so we'll see.
How is going from an OMAP4 to a S4 Pro quad-core a "moderate upgrade". Are you high?
Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
It all hinges on pricing and how much you're willing to spend, but if the LG Nexus turns out with the specs that we've seen, it's going to be a very worth-while upgrade.
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Well its also LG and no amoled screen. I cant live without that.

aooga said:
Well its also LG and no amoled screen. I cant live without that.
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Gonna need a better argument than "well its also LG", as if LG is incapable of making good devices.
Why can't you live without AMOLED? What if the screen is clearer, brighter, and has no banding or graininess? Would you be able to live with that?
Again, don't see how people can judge a device that they've never seen or has even been released and reviewed.

xfuze said:
Is it still worth getting the Galaxy Nexus? should i wait until it has been dropped in price because of the new one or how much will the new Nexus be?
Money is tight and i live in australia, thanks.
Info: Nexus S has a cracked screen, wont respond to jig/unbrickable and i dont want to tamper with the inside.
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If money is tight, I'd recommend the gnex. But wait until the new ones out. Instant price drop, but if you can afford the new one, go for it!
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martonikaj said:
Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
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On paper, sure, realistically, doesn't make a difference.

martonikaj said:
We don't know the final storage options when the phone goes on sale, so I find it funny that people are already recommending against it based on what a prototype device has for storage. You'll also never seen an SDcard in a Nexus, so that's not even a knock on it.
We also don't know what the screen is like. LG is well known for very good IPS screens, so we'll see.
How is going from an OMAP4 to a S4 Pro quad-core a "moderate upgrade". Are you high?
Also, from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a good upgrade.
It all hinges on pricing and how much you're willing to spend, but if the LG Nexus turns out with the specs that we've seen, it's going to be a very worth-while upgrade.
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Take it easy. Neither the sarcasm or aggressive attitude are necessary. If you disagree with what I freely admit is an Opinion, great. I'm interested in your's. Let's have a discussion, like a forum is intended. But please, spare me the Billy-Bada$$ routine. I'm not impressed.
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Dude do u play ps3 with xgrinder 911 as a gamertag by any chance?
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martonikaj said:
Gonna need a better argument than "well its also LG", as if LG is incapable of making good devices.
Why can't you live without AMOLED? What if the screen is clearer, brighter, and has no banding or graininess? Would you be able to live with that?
Again, don't see how people can judge a device that they've never seen or has even been released and reviewed.
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Because no screen can ever have as deep blacks as AMOLED screens. And I've had a bad experience with LG. Their phones may be fine but the people who work for them aren't.

N3RD420 said:
Dude do u play ps3 with xgrinder 911 as a gamertag by any chance?
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i go by dafuze1 on ps3 and its fuze on xbox so nope sorry dude.
(In reply to everyone) thanks to all of your replies i love the galaxy nexus and i think ill go with that. will wait for the price drop though :good:

Pierceye said:
If the specs we're seeing about the new Nexus are accurate, I'd stick with the GNex. 8MB of internal storage with no SD slot is a bit of a joke. You're also only looking at a moderate upgrade on the screen and processor, from what I've been hearing.
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It's 8GB because what we saw was a prototype or whatever. I guarantee the final Nexus won't have only 8GB.... This was said like a million times by the way.
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Nexus 6

I'm liking my G3 right now, but is anybody else excited for the N6? May have to use a jump upgrade for that bad boy. The features sound amazing and the design looks intriguing.

Tempted but too big, too expensive( for a nexus) and no removeable storage. Not only that but its made by motorola which is known for personalizing phone to your liking and yet only offer 2 colors.
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I wasn't until I got to hold a dummy unit .. No its got me thinking I might get one and after seeing the camera shots that was released yesterday its making me consider it even more

CheesyNutz said:
I wasn't until I got to hold a dummy unit .. No its got me thinking I might get one and after seeing the camera shots that was released yesterday its making me consider it even more
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Link to camera shots?

I had a Z Ultra GPE and liked it, with the Nexus 6 being half an inch smaller, I feel that it would be a much better experience!

yES, unlike others, i do not think its expensive for a flagship phone. The fACT that other nexus devices were cheaper in cost, does not make this one expensive. As it is a completely different device, different manufacture, better specs ect...
I just paid $598 for the g3 and i would GLADLY pay another $50 for a nexus 6. And its cheaper than the Note 4 and Iphone 6..
I am going to sell my G3 and jump on the nexus 6 as soon as it comes out. The only thing that sucks is that it does not have a SD card slot or a removable battery, but I can live with that...

I have a G3 and the wife has a Jump to use. I'm going to use it. lol I think I might get the Note 4 and then check out the Nexus 6 when it comes out. If I like the Nexus better then I might return the Note 4 and get the Nexus. I have 30 days to return a phone with my discount that I have. I guess I might have to pay a restocking fee. The wife will get my G3.

jpelagio11 said:
I'm liking my G3 right now, but is anybody else excited for the N6? May have to use a jump upgrade for that bad boy. The features sound amazing and the design looks intriguing.
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I want one but I'm going to wait. good chance that price drops... I came from the Nexus 5 and liked it alot..

I'm not too wprried about removable storage. I had the Flex before the G3 and honestly i switch to my Flex every once in a while cuz i miss using it

me too just waiting to move to the nexus 6 I always had nexus devices

#nexus6 shall be mine. Guaranteed updates more development and sorry but the g3 has too much lag regardless of all the tweaks. I need a pure Google experience.

I'm getting the nexus 6 as well.. I like the g3 but there is no lollipop date or eta and I'm not holding my breath..

Nexus 6 here as well, like the G3, but I'm a fiend for development and this is where Nexus shines.

The Nexus 6 looks like an amazing phone but the lack of SD card slot is what's keeping me from the switch.

Mikessv said:
The Nexus 6 looks like an amazing phone but the lack of SD card slot is what's keeping me from the switch.
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I have a 64 gig sdcard in my g3 ATM and 32 on board have not touched the onboard storage and only used 5 gigs on the sdcard
Everything is stored in the cloud
With copy I have 140 gigs of storage
So its not a big deal for me bit I can see for others it would be a issue

No SD support = hellz no.

sithdroid2187 said:
No SD support = hellz no.
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64gb is plenty of space..

One thing I'm kinda worried about is the 1st Motorola phone i owned was the Cliq. We all know how that phone turned out....... ?

Jess813 said:
Nexus 6 here as well, like the G3, but I'm a fiend for development and this is where Nexus shines.
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Yea one of the biggest gripes for any phone company are the updates. Never owned a Nexus phone, but i do like plus size phones. I had the Note 2 and Flex. A 6 inch Nexus is actually the deciding factor

Count me in for the Nexus 6. I'll be placing a midnight blue one on pre-order online on the 29th. For everyone who is passing on the Nexus because of the lack of an SD card spot, you should consider buying a meenova. I still have mine from when I had the original HTC one and they work great. Very cheap and ultra portable. I'm sure it'll be even more convenient with the nice big batteries that most of these phones are getting nowadays. I'd hate for anyone to miss out on any great phones because they don't come with built in SD slots. Check them out here http://www.meenova.com/st/p/mrg2.html

ASUS Zen Pad thread [general + accessories + dev]

It has not shown up at ASUS US site yet, but it's available at Best Buy.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-ze...lack/7650139.p?id=1219681450081&skuId=7650139
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-ze...lack/7649882.p?id=1219681443557&skuId=7649882
The spec looks very promising for 8" model:
4k (2048 * 1536) IPS touchscreen
2GB (4GB for 64GB model) RAM
choice of 16GB ($180), 32GB ($200), and 64GB ($300) NAND + micro SD
Android Lollipop
7" model is very cheap ($100)
1024 * 600 IPS touchscreen
1GB RAM
16GB NAND + micro SD
Android Lollipop
The question is the bootloader locked or not; if so, we may have hard time to root.

I am basically waiting for atleast a root or something. But I might not be able to wait that long, I really want to buy this.

Takinato said:
I am basically waiting for atleast a root or something. But I might not be able to wait that long, I really want to buy this.
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Actually, I don't really need root as 5.x has a new method to allow the app to save data to memory card as long as the app supported.
I tried the unit in person and I really like the screen (very sharp and bright), but it's difficult to get accessories even the size is similar with iPad mini (front speakers killed it).

mingkee said:
Actually, I don't really need root as 5.x has a new method to allow the app to save data to memory card as long as the app supported.
I tried the unit in person and I really like the screen (very sharp and bright), but it's difficult to get accessories even the size is similar with iPad mini (front speakers killed it).
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I was more so speaking in terms with titanium backup to freeze some of the Bloatware

i've already rooted it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/zenpad-s-root-achieved-t3160422/post61941689
you should probably do a nandroid as your first step for just in case. i haven't done one so i have no clue if it restores properly.
you achieve root through a temp/tethered cwm.
hopefully someone can take all that and maybe make it simpler. i'd love to have a perm cwm or twrp.
i think it may have been more appropriate to have posted it to this subforum.

madsquabbles said:
i've already rooted it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/zenpad-s-root-achieved-t3160422/post61941689
you should probably do a nandroid as your first step for just in case. i haven't done one so i have no clue if it restores properly.
you achieve root through a temp/tethered cwm.
hopefully someone can take all that and maybe make it simpler. i'd love to have a perm cwm or twrp.
i think it may have been more appropriate to have posted it to this subforum.
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Unfortunately, there's no dedicated forum, but I requested one.

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Unfortunately, there's no dedicated forum, but I requested one.
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How do you do that? I'd love to add my name to the list. I know I should wait and see before buying, but I couldn't resist. Moved from a Lenovo Yoga Tablet 10 to this one. Still have 14 days to play with it, so we'll see how it goes. Even though the Tab S 2 is coming in the same 4:3 ratio, I'm sure it'll be priced well above this one, since its got the octacore and whatnot.

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How do you do that? I'd love to add my name to the list. I know I should wait and see before buying, but I couldn't resist. Moved from a Lenovo Yoga Tablet 10 to this one. Still have 14 days to play with it, so we'll see how it goes. Even though the Tab S 2 is coming in the same 4:3 ratio, I'm sure it'll be priced well above this one, since its got the octacore and whatnot.
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samsung is juicing the hell out of that exnyos5. sad thing is that almost all their "premium" tablets run pretty much on the same hardware but they've abandoned the galaxy note 10.1 2014 - the first with that processor.
i'v read that tablet is gonna be over $500.

madsquabbles said:
samsung is juicing the hell out of that exnyos5. sad thing is that almost all their "premium" tablets run pretty much on the same hardware but they've abandoned the galaxy note 10.1 2014 - the first with that processor.
i'v read that tablet is gonna be over $500.
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That's true. $500?! Wtf. I know they have an 8 and 9.7" version...I'm guessing 399 for the 8 and 499 for the 9.7"? Back to trying to compete with Apple, I suppose. I wanted something different to go with my 6+, so I've been bouncing around tablets using the 14-day return policy (though two were defective anyway so they didn't sount). Maybe I should just wait for the 4GB version of this one. Here's hoping we get a forum and some major interest soon. I'd love to run CM and a few others on this thing.

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samsung is juicing the hell out of that exnyos5. sad thing is that almost all their "premium" tablets run pretty much on the same hardware but they've abandoned the galaxy note 10.1 2014 - the first with that processor.
i'v read that tablet is gonna be over $500.
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Hey,
You can check out bestbuy for Tab Pro 10.1 which is similar EXCEPT S Pen.
I really don't want Samsh*t, but, unfortunately, most of manufacturers are digging on basic models (720P screen, 1GB RAM, 8-16GB NAND).
I used to own two Asus ME572c, but both are broken (and one of them thrown out of window). I wanted the third one but it's no more.
The only thing I don't like is 4:3 ratio which leaves HUGE black stripes when watching TV and video.

Samsung makes good hardware bt lack in support and charge near apple prices. at least with an apple you'll get some support for the money you dump into it.
I love 4:3 for web browsing and reading. portrait is easier to hold and having the extra width (compared to a 16:10 of the same diag size) is great. but when you watch movies you do feel like you're losing some real estate... unless you're watching an old TV show like Oz.
I considered getting the tab s 10.5 but gaining an amoled wasn't worth giving up the pen. the note pro 12.2 is exactly the same hardware as the 10.1 but has a more recent OS last I looked.

Good afternoon (or morning depending on where you are LOL)
For those of you who purchased this tablet, how do you like it so far? I am looking to replace my boyfriend's nexus 7 (also made by ASUS) since the charging port stopped working. He doesn't care about rooting, and basically uses it to browse the net, facebook and play games like Candycrush lol I'm thinking the 32GB model for $199 will suffice, although he may end up with the $99 one if there's expandable memory. I didn't see anything about a MicroSD slot on it. Is there one?

yes it has a mSD slot. I think it only supports up to 64GB. I'm loving mine. main use is book and comic reafing, plus web browsing. I've tested a couple games- Minecraft and soul calibre and both ran flawlessly. don't let the speaker size fool you, this thing is loud and clear!
no regrets buying mine. trying to get my daughter to let me buy her one but she won't let go of her memopad!
only downside right now is lack of accessories. I can't find anyone that can get me a case until after August. I love how thin this tablet is, but it feels so dainty without a case,lol.

madsquabbles said:
yes it has a mSD slot. I think it only supports up to 64GB. I'm loving mine. main use is book and comic reafing, plus web browsing. I've tested a couple games- Minecraft and soul calibre and both ran flawlessly. don't let the speaker size fool you, this thing is loud and clear!
no regrets buying mine. trying to get my daughter to let me buy her one but she won't let go of her memopad!
only downside right now is lack of accessories. I can't find anyone that can get me a case until after August. I love how thin this tablet is, but it feels so dainty without a case,lol.
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Wow not even amazon? That's where I always find cases.
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rachelm920 said:
Wow not even amazon? That's where I always find cases.
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that's where I've been keeping an eye out. nothing yet except stuff in china.

madsquabbles said:
i've already rooted it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/zenpad-s-root-achieved-t3160422/post61941689
you should probably do a nandroid as your first step for just in case. i haven't done one so i have no clue if it restores properly.
you achieve root through a temp/tethered cwm.
hopefully someone can take all that and maybe make it simpler. i'd love to have a perm cwm or twrp.
i think it may have been more appropriate to have posted it to this subforum.
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Finally I got mine from Best Buy.
The way I root is following the instructions above, but...
1. choose T2 in command prompt
2. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE 32GB or lower SD card (CWM does not support FAT64).
Compared with ME572c:
572 is a bit louder
Quadrant is around 14000 (572 got 18000)
Antutu is 37000
It's recommended to have protection on the back
Bootloader is not locked (as of now even after updated to latest ROM)
The viewing area is about the same with 9:16 videos
It only supports B/G/N Wi-Fi, no 5GHz
Backup from 572 can be restored in this unit except system apps
You can tap the screen twice to wake like LG units.
The store rep told me Z580c is selling pretty fast, and I found it's already sold out in many stores in Manhattan (I got mine at Atlantic Terminal store where only has one unit left)

mingkee said:
The store rep told me Z580c is selling pretty fast, and I found it's already sold out in many stores in Manhattan (I got mine at Atlantic Terminal store where only has one unit left)
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congrats on your new toy. good to hear it's selling well. hopefully someone with some skills will pick one up soon.

madsquabbles said:
congrats on your new toy. good to hear it's selling well. hopefully someone with some skills will pick one up soon.
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Actually, I'd like to get the 10.1" model as well, but BH (bhphotovideo.com) doesn't have it in stock yet.
$180 with 2GB RAM is pretty unusual.
If 10.1 models came with unlocked bootloader, it will attract a lot of developers.

mingkee said:
Actually, I'd like to get the 10.1" model as well, but BH (bhphotovideo.com) doesn't have it in stock yet.
$180 with 2GB RAM is pretty unusual.
If 10.1 models came with unlocked bootloader, it will attract a lot of developers.
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pretty good specs for under $200. i'm supposing they didn't include 5ghz on this model either given how cheap it is. 1280x800 isn't as bad a resolution as some people make it out to be at such a small size unless you're looking at tiny old fonts. movies have very little benefit going to 1080 at this size.

madsquabbles said:
that's where I've been keeping an eye out. nothing yet except stuff in china.
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It seems that it fits in the generic 8 inch tablet cases. Bought one at Five below yesterday... Said it fit the kindle HD and iPad mini. The hole for the camera even lined up. I brought the tablet with me to make sure it fit.
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Nexus 7 (2013) Should I buy it?

Hello,
So I have been looking for a tablet for my son for Christmas. He is only 3 (4 in June) Of course I looked at the Nabi's and Amazon Fire Kids edition, but the price for the specs you get kind of deter me. I can not see purchasing a tablet in 2015 with 1 gb of ram and 8 gb of storage.
So I have been looking at the Nexus 7 (2013). I know there are apps / launchers you can get to give any Android Tablet a kid friendly UI / environment. So I'm not worried about that. With 16 gb storage it will be more than enough to set it up for my son. (I don't plan on putting movies on it, Netflix kid mode is plenty good for that) The quad core processor with 2gb of ram seems like it would be a good performer. A lot of reviews of the Nabi's and Fire Kids tablets mention buggy, freezing up, lagging. I am sure the 1 gb ram contributes to this. Here is what I am looking to get.
Nexus 7
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DV...ds=nexus+7&dpPl=1&dpID=418KVzHTenL&ref=plSrch
Case
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F9...C_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=Nexus+7+case&th=0
So, what do you think? This looks like the best Nexus 7 case for a 3 year old to me. Do you think this is a better idea then going with a subpar kids laptop? Also, I know Nabi can end up being a money pit, and they want you to pay for everything. Amazons comes with two year worry free warranty but to me it doesn't make up for it being a slow buggy tablet with crap resolution.

No idea about the case, looks plenty durable and suitable for rough housing though. As for the nexus, its an outstanding performer- still using mine now and don't want another tablet. It's way more capable than anything a youngster would want it for, handles games very well. I think it's even a bit of overkill for a kid.
The drawback is potential hardware problems- such as various screen touch issues. Asus took shortcuts on assembly. Hit or miss whether it would happen to you, but if it does you're kinda screwed. Some fixes are out there, and good luck trying to get asus or Google to take responsibility- make sure to get the warranty. For example mine goes totally unresponsive sometimes, i have to pop off the back and mess with it to make it work right again. Had it a couple years now and this just started in the past few months.
You could get lucky and never have a problem. If that's the case it's wonderful all around. To me, even with my problem, its far beyond worth the price tag.
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I started out with one...and was so impressed that I bought one for each member of my family.
Yes, we are a family of Nexus 7 2013 users. No one has ever had any issues with it. Put it in a reasonable protective case, get a wireless QI charger for it (saves wear and tear on the usb connector...a lesson I learned the hard way on my previous non-Nexus tablet) and your son should be good to go.
Just be careful...you may fall in love with it and decide to keep it for yourself!

ssenemosewa said:
I started out with one...and was so impressed that I bought one for each member of my family.
Yes, we are a family of Nexus 7 2013 users. No one has ever had any issues with it. Put it in a reasonable protective case, get a wireless QI charger for it (saves wear and tear on the usb connector...a lesson I learned the hard way on my previous non-Nexus tablet) and your son should be good to go.
Just be careful...you may fall in love with it and decide to keep it for yourself!
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This is exactly what happened! lol. So I got it a few days ago. I got it all updated and everything seems to be great with it. I have had no issues at all. I really took a liking to it. The more I thought about, the more I did realize it was overkill for him. So I decided to keep it for myself. LOL. However, don't look at it as a selfish move. I really did not like any of the apps that turn it into a "kid" tablet. They didn't seem very user friendly, were buggy, and I just didn't like their layouts.
So, I ended up getting him a Nabi Dreamtab instead. Don't worry, he did alright. Specs:
Nabi Dreamtab HD8
8" 1920x1200 IPS Display
Nvidia Tegra 4 Processor
2GB RAM
16GB Storage
4500mah battery
Dual Front Facing Speakers
Built in Stylus
I think he is really going to like it! Not only does it have great specs, the built in stylus played a big part in my decision. The Nabi Art Studio looks pretty sweet with using the stylus.
I really like the Nexus 7 though. I have a brand new 64GB Cloud White Nexus 6 too. I feel it will help with the longevity of my phone. Now, when I am at home I will be on my Nexus 7. So my 6 will be my on the go device (obviously being its my phone) and my 7 will be my at home device. I also have a Nexus Player. LoL.
Just think, two months ago I never owned an Android device. I owned every iPhone from the 3-6 and never seen the need for a tablet. I sold my iPhone 6 / Apple TV and picked up a Nexus 6 / Nexus Player. I have had zero regrets and have not looked back since. I knew when I made the switch it would be for a Nexus, didn't think I would end up with 3. lol