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Found this on another forum, I have done this a few times myself (do it whenever i flash a new rom because i always clear battery stats, can't hurt). Have found that it does top it up a fair bit. Before doing this i find my desire will drop to +-93% straight off the charger, however this keeps it 100% longer and i actually get to see the numbers 99-94%
Worth a go in my opinion because it only takes 5 mins of your time and can't hurt the phone... So any minor gain from this process is a win...
Hi *******, I understand your concern regarding battery life on your Nexus One device. The following steps should significantly extend the battery life on your phone. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it. You need to use this sequence only once. If the issue of battery life on our phone persists, I recommend you contact our HTC accessory department directly.
Mod Edit: There have been a few reports of damaged batteries by people on this thread. There is a chance that this MAY damage your battery. Please bear this in mind if you choose to follow the instructions above.
supportyou and the app!
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Thanks for that. At what point do you wipe battery stats? After the process is complete?
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Thanks for that. At what point do you wipe battery stats? After the process is complete?
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Also wondering about this
You should wipe battery stats after its fully green (when powered off) then boot the phone back up.
You only need to do this once
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Charge till full when powered on
power off
charge till full again
boot into recovery wipe stats
boot and continue to use as normal
It works!!!
That's fantastic!
I read this topic this morning and tried immediately. Since this morning i only lost 4% until now. That's great news!
Thx a lot, man!
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thanks!!!!
battery usage is much better now!
how do you wipe batt stats?
kmetek said:
how do you wipe batt stats?
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Via ClockWorkMod recovery
kmetek said:
how do you wipe batt stats?
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Clockworkmod recovery -> advanced -> wipe battery stats.
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do i have to repeat that in future again?
vidler said:
You need to use this sequence only once.
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first post
takes a long time to charge my Desire, but then i'll test this one!
Hope this will make battery life better. I have the same problem as described in first post (drops immediatly from 99% down to 93% )
Can someone suggest me how should I go about doing this if I use multiple batteries?
I'd imagine the phone can only be calibrated to 1 battery. But if I were to use another battery, would I screw up the calibration to the original batteries?
Right now as it is with moderate usage I need 3 batteries to last me through the day. :S
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Can someone suggest me how should I go about doing this if I use multiple batteries?
I'd imagine the phone can only be calibrated to 1 battery. But if I were to use another battery, would I screw up the calibration to the original batteries?
Right now as it is with moderate usage I need 3 batteries to last me through the day. :S
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3 batteries?!
What rom are you using and how exactly are you using your phone?
I have just one battery and it lasts about 2 days with moderate use.
I am using this ROM: (sorry can't post link)
[ROM] Rooted Official HTC Android 2.2 (FroYo) ROM [Market issue fixed]
With my typical usage, I unplugged the phone in the morning from the charger, by the time I knock off from work, I would have left about may be 20%. With stock ROM and a single battery, there is no way that I could last 2 days with one single charge. My main use is web browsing, RSS, Facebook and IM. My estimation of my solid screen time is about 2-3 hours.
So I bought more battery just in case, and played with custom ROMs. I ended up using up a whole battery in 4 hours or so. Definitely something is wrong here. My gut feel is that both the ROM and batteries are suspects. Being a newbie I really need enlightenment.
Is it really needed to wipe the stats? I think I've accidently done this once already... cause the battery life is much better.
since this procedure, my battery stays at 100% since nearly 2 and a half hours now and i did 2 text messeges in between and recently checked the bat about 4 times
this couldnt be possible..
i mean the battery is almost doubled in comparison to how long it lasts before
is this possible??
yes it is possible
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but how?
i mean in this time the battery would have been dropped to arround 97
and now its still full?
i mean these are stats how are they increasing battery life? the batterylife is given from the cell itself?
Can anyone help me please my phone is not rooted and I am trying to get good battery life out of my seidio 3500mah extended battery and I am not sure what to do because it drains from 100% to 89% real quick and I don't feel like rooting again because it gave me a hard time updating my phone on a rooted one can someone please help me
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Since you dont want to root then youre limited to just calibrating your battery. That drop is pretty much normal because the phone doesnt charge it fully to keep the battery safe and make it last linger. Li-ion batteries can be unstable beimg fully maxxed out charged . Short answer all you,can do is calibrate. But root your phone. You don't need to update your phone. Just update as the dev of your rom does... We gave new trickle charge kernels that add around an hour of battery life. And they fully charge your battery too.check out my guide in my signature to explain more about SBC kernels.
Ok calibrate your how phone threw where
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Ok calibrate your how phone threw where
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Here is an email from HTC themselves on how to get better battery life.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
If you dont want to read it, here is what they said: " To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well."
I have done a bunch of reading since my first flash to Cyanogen's 6.1 but not finding really satisfactory answers.
With the old rooted stock deodexed...I was getting about 14-15hrs of moderate-high use. So basically I pulled the cord at around 7am and plugged back in around 6pm with about 40%.
Was fine.
Flashed 6.1 last night and now I am two hours off charge and sitting at 58%!! I have all syncs turned off and I have no wifi/gps/4g running. The ONLY widget at the moment is weather and it only updates when I hit refresh.
My search has shown something called battery calibration...but that doesn't make sense to me. I have done the long charge, power off charge, power on charge etc... But since I have a wall battery charger I have just moved away from that and occasionally swap out my batteries for a full charge in that thing.
Does that 6.1 REALLY need another voodoo approach to battery life? Also the threads I have found seem to be for the nexus one or the HTC Magic(?).
Anyone else suffering HORRIBLE battery life after flashing 6.1?
Anyone got a link to a fix for the EVO and maybe something that I can get through the day with (do not have my charger at work)?
When I flashed CM7 to my wife's phone the battery was horrible (Less than 2 hours). I recalibrated the battery and the next charge lasted 2 days. Give this a try:
Battery recalibration
If you're experiencing higher than normal battery drain, try the following:
Charge the device to full battery; let it keep charging until the battery says it is fully charged. Do not just wait until the light is green, it isn't always fully charged, causing a lot of inaccuracies. (You can check by going to: Settings -> About device -> Status -> Battery Level = Full.)
Boot to recovery mode and delete the battery stats
NOTE: To have the most accurate of battery stats, reboot the device immediately after wiping the battery stats and wait for CyanogenMod to boot completely to the desktop. Once your entire boot is done and you have full access to the device, go ahead and pull the charger and continue with this troubleshooter.
Do not charge the device until after draining the battery completely, resulting in it automatically shutting off.
Recharge the device completely and then use as you normally would.
Also, CM6.1 or CM7 should get decent battery life. If it still doesn't try flashing a different kernal. I found that savaged zen bfs sbc kernal extended my life considerably.
sablesurfer said:
I have done a bunch of reading since my first flash to Cyanogen's 6.1 but not finding really satisfactory answers.
With the old rooted stock deodexed...I was getting about 14-15hrs of moderate-high use. So basically I pulled the cord at around 7am and plugged back in around 6pm with about 40%.
Was fine.
Flashed 6.1 last night and now I am two hours off charge and sitting at 58%!! I have all syncs turned off and I have no wifi/gps/4g running. The ONLY widget at the moment is weather and it only updates when I hit refresh.
My search has shown something called battery calibration...but that doesn't make sense to me. I have done the long charge, power off charge, power on charge etc... But since I have a wall battery charger I have just moved away from that and occasionally swap out my batteries for a full charge in that thing.
Does that 6.1 REALLY need another voodoo approach to battery life? Also the threads I have found seem to be for the nexus one or the HTC Magic(?).
Anyone else suffering HORRIBLE battery life after flashing 6.1?
Anyone got a link to a fix for the EVO and maybe something that I can get through the day with (do not have my charger at work)?
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Thats a old cm, cm is now cm 7... maybe try that one..
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Yea Cm6 is dated. But that shouldn't matter.. I actually had fantactic battery when I was on cm6, much better than what I get on cm7.
First, check spare parts for wakelocks and make sure you don't have any. After that, follow Fazulkas advice to reset battery stats, follow it correctly tho. I never thought wiping stats would make a difference, but it surely does.
Ok, I'll try that process when I get home tonight. (Guess I can survive w/o a phone for a few hours?!?! :^O) Haven't set up more than just the google account on this ROM as I wanted to test it first. So maybe tomorrow it will win me over.
DATED?!?! LOL! It was only just a final release a few months back...;^) It has all the important stuff working where as 7 doesn't and it is still a RC.
:^P
(Have you seen my sig? Old dogs only try the proven tricks thank you very much. :^)
CM6 is not dated. In fact CM 6.1.3 is the most current stable-release version of CM available!
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Its not the ROM. Anytime you flash a ROM, you need to calibrate your battery. By calibrate it isn't the plug in over and over method.
You charge to 100%, discharge it fully. Charge back to 100% then wipe battery stats in recovery. Then use your phone.
Flashed 6.1 last night
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There is your problem. Anytime you flash a new rom, you need to give it at least a day or two to fully calibrate everything in the rom.
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Its not the ROM. Anytime you flash a ROM, you need to calibrate your battery. By calibrate it isn't the plug in over and over method.
You charge to 100%, discharge it fully. Charge back to 100% then wipe battery stats in recovery. Then use your phone.
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HUH...this is my fourth ROM flash, first one away from stock rooted and I have never had this issue. Maybe the stock ROMs do not have this issue?
Can someone please give me some advice on what to do with my battery! Only been on for about 7 hours and I'm already at 34%!! Well 33 as of now.. This is NOT normal! Only talked for about an hour total today! I always have wifi on because I don't have a data plan! -Medium usage.
-pics enclosed!
-system info/rom/kernel info!
-please help!! Thanks!
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Some advice I can shed on this is having Wifi on all the time, (by all the time you mean at least 24/7), that could be a strong point why your battery life is low. Another thing is the number of apps that require data being pulled running in the background
1. Having Wifi on for the time you state is bad if you don't have a signal. Reason why is that since there is no signal for your Wifi to obtain it will continue to search and fail, search and fail which actually drains some good amount of battery being forced to repeat such a task unlike when having a steady signal it's usage becomes minimal
2. High number of data pulling apps also works the same except then have the option to change the time they pull data which can be usually found under settings/options tab
Try these out and let us know how it goes =]
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Some advice I can shed on this is having Wifi on all the time, (by all the time you mean at least 24/7), that could be a strong point why your battery life is low. Another thing is the number of apps that require data being pulled running in the background
1. Having Wifi on for the time you state is bad if you don't have a signal. Reason why is that since there is no signal for your Wifi to obtain it will continue to search and fail, search and fail which actually drains some good amount of battery being forced to repeat such a task unlike when having a steady signal it's usage becomes minimal
2. High number of data pulling apps also works the same except then have the option to change the time they pull data which can be usually found under settings/options tab
Try these out and let us know how it goes =]
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Thanks for the info
When I have wifi on, I am always somewhere where I have wifi. I do leave it on while driving, but that's no more that a few minutes until it reconnects.
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Hmmmmm
I barely noticed that you are running a custom rom. After flashing the new rom did you wipe battery stats? If not, that can actually affect battery life as all roms run differently and different data is applied to the battery stat
There are two ways to go about wiping the stats. You can boot into recovery and Wipe Dalvik Cache under the advanced settings or you can download Battery Calibration from the marketplace which in my experience is a lot easier
Battery Calibration
The instructions are inside the app on how to implement the process
I had this rom for a while but when I flashed it, I did not wipe data or anything. I decided to wipe data to give it a try and reflashed it. I charged it completely and calibrated it. I am in the process of running the battery until it dies so I can recharge it to complete the calibration process.
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Be sure to post back your results and hopefully if nothing has improved I'll try again to assist you =]
Ran it last night untill it was dead and let it charge throughout the night. Testing battery life now! Will post results when at 8 hours. Would post at 7 again but I am gooing on a college visit today and won't be using it then.
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Ran it last night untill it was dead and let it charge throughout the night. Testing battery life now! Will post results when at 8 hours. Would post at 7 again but I am gooing on a college visit today and won't be using it then.
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DO NOT drain the battery until it dies!!! Just down to 15-20%, then charge to full, repeat a couple times. Over-discharge is not good for Li ion batteries.
People on here keep recommending it, or saying they do it. Its NOT a good idea, and proliferating this bad advice needs to stop. Draining the battery to dead is bad for the life of the battery. Also over-discharge can possibly render the battery unable to take a charge, requiring you to buy a new battery. It doesn't happen often, but its happened to a few different people on this phone, and other phones as well.
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DO NOT drain the battery until it dies!!! Just down to 15-20%, then charge to full, repeat a couple times. Over-discharge is not good for Li ion batteries.
People on here keep recommending it, or saying they do it. Its NOT a good idea, and proliferating this bad advice needs to stop. Draining the battery to dead is bad for the life of the battery. Also over-discharge can possibly render the battery unable to take a charge, requiring you to buy a new battery. It doesn't happen often, but its happened to a few different people on this phone, and other phones as well.
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You seem to know a lot so i'm gonna ask ya redpoint. People say there is a built in safety zone so even when the battery is reporting as 0 it really isn't. The batteries do not allow themselves to get below a certain threshold for the reason you are explaining. Is this not true? Lots of people who know nothing of xda or cell phones in general let there phone run the whole way out for whatever reason. I would think that cell/battery manufacturers would take that into consideration.
the reason people used to tell you to drain the battery complete was based on an older battery tech that has what you would call a "memory" it needs to "memorize" it's lowest and highest point in order to calibrate the battery. Li-ions do not need that. They actually keep track of your charge cycles.
suppose it can handle 1000 cycles. on the first day, you used up 75% of your battery and put it on the charger to max. then the next day you use another 75% and do the same thing. at this point what actually happens is that the battery will count this as 1.5 cycles rather than 2 cycles. But redpoint is right.
Do NOT drain the battery completely when it's a Li-ion battery. it's old advice for old tech battery that is legit for that type of battery but not Li-ion batteries.
To calibrate your battery, you just use your phone normally. It will figure out where it is supposed to be as you use and charge it over the course of a few days.
better battery life
Notice on the graph, the screen was not on for a while though...
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You seem to know a lot so i'm gonna ask ya redpoint. People say there is a built in safety zone so even when the battery is reporting as 0 it really isn't. The batteries do not allow themselves to get below a certain threshold for the reason you are explaining. Is this not true? Lots of people who know nothing of xda or cell phones in general let there phone run the whole way out for whatever reason. I would think that cell/battery manufacturers would take that into consideration.
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It is true that there is a built in 'safety zone' so that the battery does not drain completely to zero.
However, it is also true that this 'safety zone' can and HAS failed for some users (including some who are on these forums)
With the way that Li-Ion batteries work, and 'calibrate', there is no added benefit to draining it completely to zero. If there is no benefit, then the risk is not worth it.
DroidCell said:
Can someone please give me some advice on what to do with my battery! Only been on for about 7 hours and I'm already at 34%!! Well 33 as of now.. This is NOT normal! Only talked for about an hour total today! I always have wifi on because I don't have a data plan! -Medium usage.
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-system info/rom/kernel info!
-please help!! Thanks!
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These ideas ran through my mind reading your post:
I. You might want to calibrate your battery. I've run into many instruction how to do this (just google the keywords: Desire Z calibrate battery), but basically the ones that do NOT require you to drain your battery to zero first, came down to this:
0. Turn Fastboot OFF!
1. Power on your Desire then connect to your Charger and Fully charge until the LED changes Green.
2. Disconnect your phone from the charger and then power off.
3. Reconnect your phone to your charger with the power off and wait for the green LED.
4. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.
5. Once the phone has fully booted / ready to use ... power off again.
6. With the power off connect the phone to the charger and wait for the green LED.
7. Disconnect from the Charger then power on and use normally.
Many people seem to have greatly increased their battery life just by following those simple steps. I am currently in the process of trying it myself, but will probably need some hours before I can verify if the overall life has significantly increased.
II. You might want to install an App like "Watchdog lite" for a longterm check if you have any apps or processes, that work as a battery eater in the background.
III. if the above tips should fail, you might want to upgrade your radio and maybe also align the radio library (RIL), to match it best with your radio and ROM. But do a lot of reading and research before actually performing that task, since this is nothing for beginners and might even make things worse. This thread might be a good point to start your research.
hope that helps,
Tronar
Hey I've read on other forums about these battery calibration apps and whatnot, just want to know if anyone has used them and know if they really do work? The wife and I both have the Dinc2 and i loaded andybonestock on both of our phones.. i use my phone like crazy and she barely uses hers. i put drellis's 21 on and UV 50 and within 15 min off the charger i'm down at most to 98 battery and she's already down to 90. her battery drains rediculously faster than mine and they're both the same exact rom's and kernel specs. Will these app's actually work or is there a real/better way to get hers working better?
Use battery calibration from the market and follow the instructions to a T. Her battery could also be defective. Try the calibration first though.
that's what i'm trying to do. I have it charging right now, at 84% then im going to run it.. just wanted to know if there was any proof it worked or any other option
I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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I left my inc2 get charge to 100% and then use the battery calibration,i notice that my battery goes down from 100% to 97% in just 5second,the battery life is good after goes to 97%,but im not sure why goes down to 97% that fast.
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Just a heads up, that is normal, your battery will never stay at 100% it doesn't charge to 100% unless you bump charge it (and that is bad for your actual battery). Having it drop anywhere from 97% to 92% is common, after that you will notice a substantial slowdown in battery drain unless you are heavily using the phone.
I added a picture of my battery life as an example of the length I am getting from the ICS Rom I'm currently using. I have my phone oc'd to 1.4ghz and uv -25 across the board. This screenshot was taken after a day full of phone calls ranging between 3 minutes and 20 minutes, moderate browser usage, moderate facebook usage and lots of texting.
Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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Ya I knew it wouldn't stay at 100 at all but like how mine would be at 97 after 15min and hers at 90.. it just didn't add up.. she rarely used her phone and only had about 6 hours of charge, while my battery with excessive use had enough battery to last me about 16 hours. I reset battery stats and then bump charged her phone. Now its fine
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glad you figured it out.
careful on bump charging, it decreases the life of the battery itself everytime you do it.
I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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That's what I did to remove battery stats.. read up on the app and realized its the same thing as doing it in recovery
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I personally don't use the apps. I've had the best luck with charging to 100%, power off and charge till green light, unplug and do one more time, boot to recovery, wipe battery, power up and unplug. That's just me though.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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Charging to 100% and then powering off and charging again IS bump charging, that is bad for your battery itself, it takes away life on the actual battery everytime you do it. I said this above. You may be getting an extra half hour to an hour out of your batterys life but you are decreasing the amount of times it can actually hold a charge each time you do that, therefore ruining your battery for a tiny bit of extra battery life per charge.
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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Face Palm!
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I'm quite aware of what it IS. I also didn't say I do it every charge. I also know that some say its not good. I also know some say smoking can kill you. I also know I've done it on other devices with no problems. And I also didn't say for anyone to do it. I only said what I do and what has worked for me.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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The smoking analogy doesn't really relate, smoking can kill you but doesn't always, bump charging for a fact decreased the longevity of your battery hence shortens the time before it does not hold a charge anymore and you have to buy a new one. I made a factual comment, I did not need a condesending response.
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*condescending
And if it's a fact, can you provide a link to a scientific study backing up your claims? If not, please don't claim that it's fact based on forum posts by other users and your own anecdotal experiences.
Thanks!