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[Q] Epic 4g touch or Nexus S4g

Hi to you all, hope your enjoying your holidays.
So i signed up for sprint and got a Nexus S4G for free (only paid taxes). Am very happy with the phone, i really like the curve design and the size fits my hand pretty good. Overall am satisfied with the service(Coming from Metro, ha)
But i been lately thinking exchange it for an Epic 4g Touch, whats kinda holding my back its the size of it, and the square form of it. And well besides paying the 199+tax. and i cant really tell if all of it LOS issues have been fixed with the current updates.
Is it worth upgrading to the epic? how good does it feel in your hand and pockets? Did the current upgrades really fix the issues is it really worth the 199+tax
Thanks for all you guys input.

I am in the same quandary but my concern is the poor audio quality of the sg2 versus the excellent rating of the nexus, which can use the voodoo sound kernels. Also the nexus will get more software rom support. On the other hand, the sg2 screen is stunning, storage is better and speed can't compare.
Guess there is no perfect device

I have both phones and both have their good points. Obviously there is more development on the NS4G but you can run the Epic Touch stock and be totally happy. The update seemed to solve the LOS issue for a good majority of the people that were having problems. I use PowerAmp that has an EQ so I am happy with the music quality but this phone will not have Voodoo support. The screen on the Epic Touch is obviously better. The battery lasts almost twice as long for me. The phone is big but after you get used to it, it feels perfect. Using the on-screen keyboard is much easier. I find myself flashing every new ROM on my Nexus because I am constantly looking to improve it but I am very content with my ET4G setup. The Nexus is a hell of a phone as well. If you are worried that you wont be happy with the Epic Touch, you will be. If you're asking if its a worthy upgrade, that's up to the user. Feel free to PM me with any specific questions and I will get back to you. Oh, running aosp's ICA 4.0.3 v43 on my Nexus and strongsteve's odexed blue 12/24 build on my Epic Touch
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Quick input on your concerns:
1. LOS is no longer an issue. It was a huge problem with custom kernels in previous releases, but EK02 seems to have resolved as well as the subsequent no-CIQ update.
2. The large form factor of the SGS2 may be intimidating at first, but you quickly get used to both the large dimensions and huge screen. I came from an Epic 4G and this was one of my concerns too, and in retrospect, it probably shouldn't have been.
3. Dualcore + 1gb RAM makes a huge difference if you're a poweruser. Never having to deal with coming back to an app that was closed automatically (Opera is a big victim of this) is invaluable IMO.
In the end, all the small differences are a wash, and it comes down to hardware vs software. One has ICS and the other will get it later than it should.
FWIW, I have two new E4GT's and I'm looking to trade one of those for a Nexus. ICS has a large amount of undeclared value IMO.

quick99si said:
Quick input on your concerns:
1. LOS is no longer an issue. It was a huge problem with custom kernels in previous releases, but EK02 seems to have resolved as well as the subsequent no-CIQ update.
2. The large form factor of the SGS2 may be intimidating at first, but you quickly get used to both the large dimensions and huge screen. I came from an Epic 4G and this was one of my concerns too, and in retrospect, it probably shouldn't have been.
3. Dualcore + 1gb RAM makes a huge difference if you're a poweruser. Never having to deal with coming back to an app that was closed automatically (Opera is a big victim of this) is invaluable IMO.
In the end, all the small differences are a wash, and it comes down to hardware vs software. One has ICS and the other will get it later than it should.
FWIW, I have two new E4GT's and I'm looking to trade one of those for a Nexus. ICS has a large amount of undeclared value IMO.
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I will trade my Nexus for one of your ET4G's! I am sure you will have no problem making that deal. My Nexus can handle 1540 overclock (unlike most people's) and is loaded up with ICS and TWRP 2.0 with ICS theme. PM me if you are serious about that deal.
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Naxxx89 said:
Hi to you all, hope your enjoying your holidays.
So i signed up for sprint and got a Nexus S4G for free (only paid taxes). Am very happy with the phone, i really like the curve design and the size fits my hand pretty good. Overall am satisfied with the service(Coming from Metro, ha)
But i been lately thinking exchange it for an Epic 4g Touch, whats kinda holding my back its the size of it, and the square form of it. And well besides paying the 199+tax. and i cant really tell if all of it LOS issues have been fixed with the current updates.
Is it worth upgrading to the epic? how good does it feel in your hand and pockets? Did the current upgrades really fix the issues is it really worth the 199+tax
Thanks for all you guys input.
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I wouldn't buy another samsung device unless it was a nexus. Samsung abandoned the original galaxy s just one year after release. Not everyone can afford a phone off contract one year in.
That said, the nexus s is already a year old, and it would be reasonable for Google to eol it next year. I would honestly consider the evo 3d or the iPhone 4s at this time. Apple typically supports their phones for 2+ years and it is a new device. The evo is Sprint's equivalent of Verizon's DROID branding, so it will be supported for a reasonable amount of time as well.
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kingsway8605 said:
I wouldn't buy another samsung device unless it was a nexus. Samsung abandoned the original galaxy s just one year after release. Not everyone can afford a phone off contract one year in.
That said, the nexus s is already a year old, and it would be reasonable for Google to eol it next year. I would honestly consider the evo 3d or the iPhone 4s at this time. Apple typically supports their phones for 2+ years and it is a new device. The evo is Sprint's equivalent of Verizon's DROID branding, so it will be supported for a reasonable amount of time as well.
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Was looking to avoid apple but was thinking the same

bjrmd said:
Was looking to avoid apple but was thinking the same
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was truly thinking the same myself. i'm not a apple fan but i'm on the brink......even a guy i know with a old 3gs is getting software updates.............

I have two ns4g and my epic touch as well. I love my ns4g and I'm running ics on it now. Awesome phone. But I couldn't get Rid if my epic touch. The phone is a beast and is the best phone available. No other phone can beat it in CPU and gpu power. It won't happen until a quad core comes out. In the end though its your choice. If $200 bucks is alit of money for you then keep the ns4g. Its an awesome phone. Good luck
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Thinking of upgrading to GSM Nexus from iPhone 4s. Some input..

I have been a longtime iPhone and Android user and currently I am using the iPhone 4s. It's a great phone, but I tend to miss Android and all that it offers.
Here is my question.. Does anyone think $690 for the GSM Nexus is worth it? I have been going back and forth on it and I think I would really like it, however I can never seem to keep an Android phone because nothing is really new with it.
Here is an example. I had the Verizon Thunderbolt, it was a nice phone, fast and really allowed Android to shine. I then saw the T-Mobile Sensation come out and it was a dual core with nice specs. Another really nice phone. But again, noting super new with Android. Not to mention T-Moble's network blows around here.
I hoped to ATT and I love the coverage and have tried the iPhone 4, 4s (current) and Skyrocket.
So, will Android 4 on the Nexus be new and improved enough to make the switch?

I should pay attention, I see the subsidized Verizon phone still is $300. Maybe $600+ is an ok price.

Honestly I only think paying full price for the GSM Nexus is worth it if you get the $30 Walmart plan on T-Mobile.

I personally have been using my GNex for about a month now and I bought it from one of the on-line retailers (paid $750BTW) and I would do it again in a heart beat. I personally have TMoUSA and the service is good in my area, everyone's mileage will vary. I had the iPhone and have not looked back after going with android

"Worth it" is completely arbitrary based on the person.
For me, it would be worth it. I hate iOS and all it stands for. I also don't being treated like a criminal for wanting root. I also think the iOS theme is butt-ugly.
I'm running pre-alphas of CM9 and they are working flawlessly. This bodes well for the future of the device.

Depends on your budget . I don't think you'll see too much of a difference in terms of performance though... and the GPU isn't that great compared to the iPhone. If you want more input, I suggest you using the search option in this forum and search something along the lines of Galaxy Nexus vs iPhone 4s
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The Galaxy Nexus is a really good phone, IMO the best Android out there (but then I'd never again buy a non-Google phone -- these are locked worse than the iPhone).
I love the big screen (came to it from a Nexus S) and ICS is a big improvement in terms of UI.
Having said that, the iPhone 4S still offers a smoother and more consistent user experience, IMO.

mycomputerisjunk said:
I should pay attention, I see the subsidized Verizon phone still is $300. Maybe $600+ is an ok price.
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You can get an unlocked 16gb Galaxy Nexus from negri electronics for about $625 shipped nowadays.
No one can tell you how "worth it" it is. Everyone has different qualifications. I'd be inclined to say that if you're going to be staying w/ AT&T and paying through the nose for service, its harder to swallow the ~$625 for an unlocked device.
It becomes more worth it when you go to a prepaid plan and cut your service cost in half every month.
So I would definitely recommend you walk into a Verizon store so you can play with it in person and make your assessment on whether or not you think Android 4 is good enough to justify your payment for the unlocked device. Obviously don't pay attention to the network speeds or anything as you'll be using on AT&T, but its a good idea to see it in person first.

mycomputerisjunk said:
Does anyone think $690 for the GSM Nexus is worth it?
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I paid $650 ($689 after tax)for a non-subsidized CDMA so I think so.

well coming from the SGS II(epic 4g touch)...........I LOVE THIS PHONE!!!....i got the CDMA(32gb) version with Verizon. Android 4.0 is a HUGE step from gingerbread, you'll love it. I would recommend going with Verizon though

Ye love it too, and the experience is definitely more changed than ever from 2.x to 4.0(eg. better than ever), so by those means, yes it's worth it.
However with an iphone 4s i would probably wait another year before upgrading.

You could watch Swappa if you're interested in trying to save a few hundred and go lightly used. There isn't much on there now, but may be more in the coming months. Beware of people maybe trying to unload their phones due to signal issues (CDMA at least). I've collected very mixed data on CDMA signal issues (I can't speak for GSM). Many people report 0 problems, and some report chronic problems even after phone swaps. I've seen some fixed after a swap, and in my case I had a tech swap my SIM card which helped a lot, and then updating to 4.03 radios *hopefully* fixed the problem.
Assuming my signal issues are fixed now and don't return, this phone is by far the best I've ever owned. A major jump forward coming from a Droid Incredible. CM9 is also amazing.
http://swappa.com/search?q=galaxy+nexus

Apples and oranges.. One is a fancy phone that runs apps, the other is a mini computer.
If you like customizing your phone past wallpapers and folders then it should be a clear and obvious answer
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I mean...
dude i mean i got the gnex the day it came out and it was complete garbage i hated it it sucked so bad i lit it on fire..i mean i come from a rich background so i can afford to do those kinda things..
jk im not queer, but anyways i have the gnex and i love it. i hate ios and apple entirely and when i see all these kids at my school with iphones i just get heated. anyways..if you have the money to use on a gsm version by all means do so

mycomputerisjunk said:
I have been a longtime iPhone and Android user and currently I am using the iPhone 4s. It's a great phone, but I tend to miss Android and all that it offers.
Here is my question.. Does anyone think $690 for the GSM Nexus is worth it? I have been going back and forth on it and I think I would really like it, however I can never seem to keep an Android phone because nothing is really new with it.
Here is an example. I had the Verizon Thunderbolt, it was a nice phone, fast and really allowed Android to shine. I then saw the T-Mobile Sensation come out and it was a dual core with nice specs. Another really nice phone. But again, noting super new with Android. Not to mention T-Moble's network blows around here.
I hoped to ATT and I love the coverage and have tried the iPhone 4, 4s (current) and Skyrocket.
So, will Android 4 on the Nexus be new and improved enough to make the switch?
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Yes...........

The trouble with asking this kind of question in a galaxy nexus forum is your going to get a very biast opinion as everyone here, well mostly everyone here owns one and android users love android and apple love apple products.
Really the best advice is go and use one in a store and make up your own mind and of course watch some youtube videos about ics and gnex vs iPhone 4s. Then you be armed with the knowledge to make the right decisiin for you and your needs.
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I'd suggest going to your local Verizon store and play around with their Galaxy Nexus demo for a bit. I waited and cried about this phone not being released then when it finally was and I picked up I found myself questioning why and what about the phone was I going so crazy for and at the moment I'm a little regretful for not playing with the phone first and just ordering it online.
It's a nice phone and I know I'm a picky person but there was imo more bad than good and the stuff I think is bad may not necessarily be bad but just not as good as it should or could have been for the price and usually when I upgrade, which is once every few years when Verizon grants me a discount, I like to get the best I can get to last me those few years and the Galaxy Nexus isn't the best for me.
To be specific on the things I personally didn't care for were the camera, the battery life which is common in 4G phones but was a little worse in this phone than other 4G phones I've used. The screen was a let down, the colors and grainy banding in low light levels just looked horrible and the whole 4.65" largest screen thing was misleading to me as you hardly ever use the full screen because of the softkeys and worst of all for me was no USB Mass Storage which I used allot in my previous phone but that last one was my fault for not researching the phone more thoroughly prior to purchase.
I've always been an android user so I can't say anything bad about iOS devices although I have and use an iPad 2 and iPod touch 4 I can't imagine them being any worse as a phone.

If you can wait until the Samsung Galaxy S3, it's a beast. IMO, the Galaxy Nexus is already an outdated phone, and it will be more apparent when new phones start rolling out ICS.
Of course, there's a slew of other phones coming out in the next few months, so you'll have lots of options. That's just my opinion.

Only if you promise not to make threads about multi tasking or battery life if you end up not liking it. Which I am very sure you will like it.
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I've never owned an iPhone so maybe I'm not qualified to give my opinion, but I have handled various iPhones through the years. My buddy who's owned a couple summed it up best. The iPhone is a beautiful phone with an environment where everything "works." It's a device with a very closed, simple OS but amazing apps, where android is a very powerful, open (if you get something from the nexus line anyway) OS with decent apps. The apps make iPhone and the OS make Android.
If you crave freedom and are a power user, this is the phone for you. I've only owned android devices but I think apple makes a good phone. The problem lies in that if you want it do something that apple hasn't envisioned for the phone, then you are out of luck. Also, the iPhone 4 and up have great screens... but having owned 4inch screen and up phones for the last 2 years, it's pretty much impossible for me personally to go down to something under 4 inches. The thing just feels utterly tiny and limited with that little screen real estate.
As an aside, where Android has caught up with the UI on ICS, they really need to step up the game with their tablets. This is an area the iPad has every Android tablet beat, not even including the horsepower under the hood... device layout! I'm talking about the 4:3 format the iPad uses. Every powerful android tablet is in 16:9, and if you aren't watching movies it's a terrible aspect ratio. It's harder to hold and you give up a lot of usable area in portrait and in landscape. It works for computers with a dedicated keyboard and mouse, but on a huge touchscreen device, it's just awkward.
Edit: Biggest reason I will never own an iPhone is iTunes. Hate the program... huge bloatware on the computer and Apple forces you to use it if you want any sync with your computer. iCloud alleviates it somewhat, but it's just another way to trap you into the Apple ecosystem.

Just ordered the Sprint version, already second guessing it

I dont know if I made the right decision...should I have went with the Epic 4g Touch instead? Or waited for the Evo 4g LTE? I hate making big purchases like this, I always get buyer's remorse

You made good choice I am on Verizon so I can't tell you about Sprint's service but 4G should improve a lot for sprint.
I like having it rooted and getting all the updates my friend who has stock is still on 4.0.2 on Verizon he is with me on family plan though hopefully at least sprint does better job =]

What are you regretting? You have a phone that is almost top of the line (Dual instead of Quad core, really not that big of a deal). That will be getting the latest Android releases weeks (Or days) after release compared to months or years. Finally, a phone that will have dev support for it's entire life compared to phones that will only be relevant for maybe a year.

Why do you have buyers remorse about? Is there something you dont like about the phone before you have received it? The GN is a great phone that most love. If you like custom firmware you cant have a better phone or group of devs than this device.

I have a dont reason, I just always second guess myself when I buy a phone. Im coming from an OG Evo and I did the same thing with it but ended up loving it. Ive read so many good things about the epic 4G Touch, I almost went with it but went with the Nexus because its newer...just hoping I made the right decision. Cant wait to get my hands on it and get it rooted.

This phone out performs the touch. And the evo has broken multitasking. This is a great phone. You really can't go wrong with this phone... seriously.
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Why would you choose the SGS2 over the GNex? You're being paranoid.

Thanks, you guys are definitely helping and easing my mind

I personally think you made the right choice, remember you have a week with the phone to decide if you like it or if you dont. I bet you will.

I was also second guessing this or the Evo but here are some reasons I took the gnex over the Evo.
1. NO F'ING removable battery. This is a must if I have to endure using it for at least two years. Batteries degrade and it would be useless a year in.
2. LCD not an amoled. I don't like LCD they don't produce colors like our phone and blacks as well. Regardless of everyone saying its good... they must be blind.
3. Sense 4.0 no explanation needed... sense is retarded.
4. Google support. Although limited (cdma) this phone will still receive faster updates.
5. Rootabliltiy. It was soo easy to root and your not limited. For HTC the only way to unlock is to void warranty and even then... you have to worry about hboot versions. No thanks. You may void warranty by unlocking this phone but you can always relock it nor use an exploit to root without unlocking.
All in all this phone is the obvious choice.
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I moved from the gs2 to the nexus, and i couldn't be happier
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hi
How's the radio and signal strength compare to nexus s 4g?
I'm tired of having almost no bars most of the time.

I went from Sprint and the Epic 4G Touch to Verizon and the Galaxy Nexus. I do not regret either move.
Was the E4GT a good phone. Sure was. Is the Galaxy Nexus a better phone. Sure is. There is nothing to regret about the GNEX and I would not buy a phone today on Sprint that is not LTE.
I am sure Sprint will one day change their data plans and go to tiered data when people switch to LTE phones. If you get in now with unlimited LTE, you should at least be safe until you complete your contract. Then at that point they will either allow you to grandfather it because you already have an LTE device or they can pull what Verizon will be pulling.....
Also, why buy a phone with Wimax when Sprint no longer building it out. What you see is what you get. Nothing improving on that end.
Only other phone I would even look at for comparison is the SGS3. Then it comes down to Pure ICS or Touchwiz. Either way, you will still end up with a great phone.
One thing I can say with owning a GNEX is I don't feel the need to purchase every new phone announced which is a big thing compared to every other phone I have owned. There is something about owning a Nexus device that makes you not care what other phones have.....Really cannot explain it but you need to own one to understand.
Only thing I wished was the GNEX had the camera from the SGS2. Then this thing would be perfect but, in this world nothing is perfect so you need to settle to the closest thing!

You won't regret it. I switched from the Sprint E4GT to the VZW GNex and haven't regretted either move at all. Like eman3316 said, I have not wanted to rush out and buy every new phone on the market since owning the GNex, which is something I can't say for any other device I've owned including the Nexus S. I always wanted the next better phone to come out, but I no longer spend unnecessary money on unnecessary phones.

I don't understand people on this thread at all. Yes I definitely love my Nexus but I'd much rather have the EvoLTE. I'll give you some reasons why you shouldn't have gotten the Nexus and maybe you can rethink.
1. AMOLED screen. Amazing right? Eh...not anymore. I've had two replacements, the first of which had awful banding and a purple tint at low brightness. Also, the image of the status bar and keyboard were permanently burnt into the screen. While the screen is sharp, it definitely can't best the new Evo due to its full RBG matrix. The colors are uneven and look "dirty" at low brightness. A post on the first page said that color reproduction was better?? Nope, more saturated but not better. AMOLED used to be touted as power efficient but with this huge screen it is the opposite. These reasons are why the EvoLTE wins the screen comparison.
2. Camera...not much to say here. The camera on this thing absolutely blows. My girlfriends OG Evo takes better shots. I think the camera on the 4S still has a slight advantage over any other Android handset but the EvoLTE is right up there and could probably be improved with new software releases.
3. While the CPU/GPU combo isn't by any means slow, the S4 is faster by a mile and is more power efficient. It handles the 720p resolution like a champ. Whenever I go back to stock 4.0.2 my Gnex definitely has hiccups and lags compared to my current setup.
4. Due to CDMA licensing, Samsung has crappy software for CDMA radios. Everyone talks about how a new software update or radio will help but it never does. Its no use, Samsung just has crappy radio support. If you like dropped connections and fluctuating signal then the Gnex is for you.
Now I seem to hate the Gnex huh? Not really. I'm just simply stating the truth and that I believe the new Evo is a better investment. If the Gnex was $99 that would be a different story. Quick software updates can be nice but I'm on Verizon so I don't know what that's like.
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Zacisblack said:
I don't understand people on this thread at all. Yes I definitely love my Nexus but I'd much rather have the EvoLTE. I'll give you some reasons why you shouldn't have gotten the Nexus and maybe you can rethink.
1. AMOLED screen. Amazing right? Eh...not anymore. I've had two replacements, the first of which had awful banding and a purple tint at low brightness. Also, the image of the status bar and keyboard were permanently burnt into the screen. While the screen is sharp, it definitely can't best the new Evo due to its full RBG matrix. The colors are uneven and look "dirty" at low brightness. A post on the first page said that color reproduction was better?? Nope, more saturated but not better. AMOLED used to be touted as power efficient but with this huge screen it is the opposite. These reasons are why the EvoLTE wins the screen comparison.
2. Camera...not much to say here. The camera on this thing absolutely blows. My girlfriends OG Evo takes better shots. I think the camera on the 4S still has a slight advantage over any other Android handset but the EvoLTE is right up there and could probably be improved with new software releases.
3. While the CPU/GPU combo isn't by any means slow, the S4 is faster by a mile and is more power efficient. It handles the 720p resolution like a champ. Whenever I go back to stock 4.0.2 my Gnex definitely has hiccups and lags compared to my current setup.
4. Due to CDMA licensing, Samsung has crappy software for CDMA radios. Everyone talks about how a new software update or radio will help but it never does. Its no use, Samsung just has crappy radio support. If you like dropped connections and fluctuating signal then the Gnex is for you.
Now I seem to hate the Gnex huh? Not really. I'm just simply stating the truth and that I believe the new Evo is a better investment. If the Gnex was $99 that would be a different story. Quick software updates can be nice but I'm on Verizon so I don't know what that's like.
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Whoa... Did you just say OGevo camera is better? ... Your comment is now irrelevant and should be erased.. Lol ...
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Whoa... Did you just say OGevo camera is better? ... Your comment is now irrelevant and should be erased.. Lol ...
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Agreed. I love this camera.
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housry23 said:
You won't regret it. I switched from the Sprint E4GT to the VZW GNex and haven't regretted either move at all. Like eman3316 said, I have not wanted to rush out and buy every new phone on the market since owning the GNex, which is something I can't say for any other device I've owned including the Nexus S. I always wanted the next better phone to come out, but I no longer spend unnecessary money on unnecessary phones.
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I switched from the Evo 3D to the VZW GNex...at first I wasn't sure if I really wanted to switch from Sprint...but once I got onto the LTE network...those doubts QUICKLY went away. I thought about getting the Sprint GNex...but the loss of 4G for an extended period of time didn't sit well with me, especially since Sprint's 3G network practically sucks.
I can see that being the only drawback of getting it on Sprint.

Zacisblack said:
I don't understand people on this thread at all. Yes I definitely love my Nexus but I'd much rather have the EvoLTE. I'll give you some reasons why you shouldn't have gotten the Nexus and maybe you can rethink.
1. AMOLED screen. Amazing right? Eh...not anymore. I've had two replacements, the first of which had awful banding and a purple tint at low brightness. Also, the image of the status bar and keyboard were permanently burnt into the screen. While the screen is sharp, it definitely can't best the new Evo due to its full RBG matrix. The colors are uneven and look "dirty" at low brightness. A post on the first page said that color reproduction was better?? Nope, more saturated but not better. AMOLED used to be touted as power efficient but with this huge screen it is the opposite. These reasons are why the EvoLTE wins the screen comparison.
2. Camera...not much to say here. The camera on this thing absolutely blows. My girlfriends OG Evo takes better shots. I think the camera on the 4S still has a slight advantage over any other Android handset but the EvoLTE is right up there and could probably be improved with new software releases.
3. While the CPU/GPU combo isn't by any means slow, the S4 is faster by a mile and is more power efficient. It handles the 720p resolution like a champ. Whenever I go back to stock 4.0.2 my Gnex definitely has hiccups and lags compared to my current setup.
4. Due to CDMA licensing, Samsung has crappy software for CDMA radios. Everyone talks about how a new software update or radio will help but it never does. Its no use, Samsung just has crappy radio support. If you like dropped connections and fluctuating signal then the Gnex is for you.
Now I seem to hate the Gnex huh? Not really. I'm just simply stating the truth and that I believe the new Evo is a better investment. If the Gnex was $99 that would be a different story. Quick software updates can be nice but I'm on Verizon so I don't know what that's like.
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1. This amoled... needs tweaking... when the rgb and gama are tweaked in ROMS it is perfect... i have perfected it anyways... i do agree this amoled is off. But that LCD is crap... i dont like blacklit things... my LCD tv has two giant burn ins so it doesnt just happen to amoleds.
2.This camera is f'ing amazing.. your f'ing blind... go check out the post pictures from your gnex thread... your jaw will drop. The og evo... no just no...
3. UM what? Duh what do you expect... this phone is not built for preformance it is meant for openess... having a closed architecture processor such as the S4 is pointless just wait... it will be 6 months before that thing sees the light of day of the next android version. Where it will be sitting on our front door when it comes out.
4. I dont agree... this is all on location... if you live in a place that is known for crappy service then yes it will drop more than other phones. If you live in a place with "normal" signal then you have nothing to worry about.
The gnex is the better phone all around... the HTC is for the fanboys of HTC not us.

I definitely understand what you coming from the evo LTE is a good looking device but sense kills it for me plus having own evos in the past besides group they take like 8 months to release the new updat and ain't detailing with that anymore plus stock ICS is the best OS yet for android and jellybean will be game changer and unless you wanted 6-8 months later go for the evo the camera in this phone is just right I take pics only for sharing on Facebook to my family and there good enough sure is not the best but look at the pluses on this phone
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iPhone 4 owner thinking of getting the GN.

Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?

hoclem24 said:
Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?
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I love nexus to d core ... goin with 27h battery life with 3.24h of screen on
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Can definitely get a good day or two with light use out of the Nexus, everyone's idea of light use differs though.
I've previously owned an iPhone 4. Got to say, with Jellybean you get the same snappy OS feel minus the restrictions.
The camera isn't as good indoors, but much faster and outdoors pic quality is about the same.
If you want an Android device, then it is the one to have IMO.

hoclem24 said:
Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?
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The Nexus is without question the best android experience you can get currently. The only problem I had with Ice Cream Sandwich was the lag when using live wallpapers but Jellybean fixed that problem. Honestly smoothness of the Nexus with Jellybean is on par or slightly worse than the iPhone. If I was to get a phone right now I would definitely pick up the Nexus especially at 50 dollars, that said however I would personally wait a few months for the new Nexus phone/s to be announced.

Do it. You got plenty of time before the next Nexus will be unveiled. Absolutely marvelous device. I get a days worth out of the phone with maybe a short charge in the middle of the day. /rant begins: Plus why would anyone want over a days worth of charging?!?!?! Don't you have a charger right next to your bed or charge it at night when you're not awake?!?!?! Really I don't understand.../rant over...kinda..
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nexicon said:
Do it. You got plenty of time before the next Nexus will be unveiled. Absolutely marvelous device. I get a days worth out of the phone with maybe a short charge in the middle of the day. /rant begins: Plus why would anyone want over a days worth of charging?!?!?! Don't you have a charger right next to your bed or charge it at night when you're not awake?!?!?! Really I don't understand.../rant over...kinda..
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I love the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest downside is the radio--it blows. It is close to seven months since release and none of the software radios have improved the signal quality significantly.
I was at a backyard BBQ this weekend and I couldn't get enough signal to access the internet with the phone. Right next to me was someone with the Bionic and another with the Thunderbolt, both on Verizon. They were both able to get enough bars (one) to access the internet. Here I am running JB and a nice custom kernel but unable to do anything meaningful with the phone in that backyard. GN fails all the time to grab signal where it should. I spent a lot of time inside of restaurants inside bars, clubs, people's houses without signal. What's the point of having the phone?
As for battery life, you have to change the mindset coming from iPhone with a sealed case. Batteries cost $4 each from China. I keep a few in my pocket when I go out. I typically do one or two battery swaps when I go out for the evening.
I'm wedded to this phone for now. I were in the market for a new phone, I would get the nicest Android phone with a replaceable battery that can be unlocked with a strong developer community. Whether the SIII or One X fits that bill, I don't know.

4 days on nexus and without JB it lags coming from S2 i9100.
on JB it rocks, really loving it.
only 2 issues....
no native T9 dialer, using ex dialer donate and plugins to fix the issue and looks
volume of the external speakers sucks, listening youtube videos is hell. (no solutions yet)
i like stock only so custom roms are out of question

For the price its a great device. I enjoyed it a lot. I upgraded to the GS3. The GS3 has all kinds of hardware upgrades over my GN but it also cost more. The camera upgrade is big. 2GB RAM is nice too. But for the price the Galaxy Nexus has some nice things going for it.

atifsh said:
4 days on nexus and without JB it lags coming from S2 i9100.
on JB it rocks, really loving it.
only 2 issues....
no native T9 dialer, using ex dialer donate and plugins to fix the issue and looks
volume of the external speakers sucks, listening youtube videos is hell. (no solutions yet)
i like stock only so custom roms are out of question
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Solution- download volume + (sound boost) from play market.
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Well as someone who had the iPhone 4s and then moved to the Galaxy Nexus I can say without a doubt that the gnex is the best phone I've ever owned. This phone is a tinkerers dream.
I easily can get a days use with juicy defender (7am-11pm 35%). I will say that the iPhone 4 has better battery than the gnex or the 4s for that matter but then you're buying outdated hardware that will get a watered down version of iOS6 when it gets released while with the gnex you get the latest unrestricted OS.

If you're only experience with Android is the Fascinate, you'll love the GNex or S3. If possible, get the GSM Nexus.

You mentioned you didn't like rooting and such on your original Fascinate...honestly if you aren't about taking advantage of the massive development available on the GN, there isn't anything to recommend it over a GS3. Touchwiz is better these days (I'd still toss it for straight google experience, though). But all indications are that samsung is taking care of it's baby now, and trying not to be the bad mother of the GS1 days.

I have a 4s and its back in its box for now... the nexus with jelly bean feels like a brand new phone no joke. I loooove it!
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Man, I recently ditched my atrix 4G about a month ago for the gnexus and I'm so glad I did. I had bought my gf the 4s for her birthday, and I'm not gonna lie- after playing around with her phone then going back to my buggy/laggy atrix, I started considering switching to the iPhone for stability. Most android phones at the time were the 'new phone of the month' crap, and although I love the functionality of android, I ultimately wanted a stable phone that would be updated to the newest OS whenever there was a release.
Before throwing in the towel, I gave the galaxy nexus a shot. This thing rocks. No lag, great dev community, first to be upgraded when there is a new os upgrade, great camera and screen size/resolution.. etc etc. This phone will not let you down, trust me man. Coming from a guy who also would turn down the Galaxy s3 for the same reason, I advise you to go android. Go android, and go whatever Google's flagship phone is. If possible, I'd hold out until Google releases their new Nexus device(s?) so you can have the latest and greatest.
I'm here to answer any questions you've got.
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I agree the GNex is the best android phone, and it is best for customization, especially when coming from iPhones.
However you also mentioned you want something that just works. Unfortunately nothing beats the iphone in this category. GNex is a high maintenance phone. From day to day task (getting find my phone to work, typing in different languages), to managing an os update. I am still struggling with issues after jellybean upgrade.
Also, Google now sucks compare to siri. It doesn't extract info from contact, ie. does not know who I am or who is my wife, her phone number. Finally I really missed imessage. Most of my friends are on ios, almost no one use Google+.
In my opinion, stay with your iPhone if you want it to just work. But get a GNex if you are bored of ios and want to tinker your phone.

evil_penguin said:
Solution- download volume + (sound boost) from play market.
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Doesn't work on jb buddy
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atifsh said:
Doesn't work on jb buddy
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I know ..developer is working hard to make it work with jellybean:thumbup:
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Definitely get the nexus. I got mine three days ago and love it. I also bought the wife an iPhone Friday. Side by side the nexus wins hands down...without even turning them on lmao.
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The nexus is a great phone, 4.1 is very very smooth, however I'm going to go against the grain here, because of your comment "It just needs to work". The nexus is on the bleeding edge of android and sometimes problems DO crop up and can take a while to fix and in rare cases be pretty crippling (Nexus S search bug on the i9020a for example). If you can live with little quirks or willing to get your hands dirty and try to fix them yourself, then by all means get this phone, if you want something 100% trouble free, you might be better to stay with the iPhone.
The nexus however does provide you with a bloat free experience, and if you like to tinker, then it's the best choice available. I'm never sure if the verizon variant is properly supported in AOSP, if you have the option, get a GSM version (yes this means going with someone other the version) and get the phone from the play store to make sure you don't have a samsung regional variant (yakju/takju)
Best of luck on your decision.

I spent quite a while playing with my friends iPhones and when I walked into Verizon I was pretty much set on getting one because they do just work. They dont bug up, they dont lag, they just do as you ask. But I also realized how no matter whos phone I was using I felt like I was using just anyones phone. They all kind of felt the same even though people had different wallpapers and what not. I just did not get the feeling everyone had their own unique device and I like having the ability to stand out. When I went into Verizon, they never even brought the I phone out. They put the Droid 4 (which I also asked for) the GNX and the LG Enligten. As soon as they took the Nexus out of the box I was impressed. It was the right size, the screen was fantastic (I thought I wouldnt mind the screen size difference from iPhone to Nexus but I do and I cant stand to use the small iPhone screen now) I got double my data, double the memory, faster cpu. Everyone in the store said they wished it was out when they were considering their next phone so I jumped on it. At first I was a bit annoyed with ICS and its laggyness. Do yourself a huge favor, get JB and load a good kernel and from an interface perspective it dusts the iPhone for me. The only thing I wish worked better is the reception. And that is a huge core feature. I just cant tell if its a radio software issue or a antenna issue. It seems some people have fixed their phones with flashing new radios but it may just be a patch on an underlying problem. Even with that I still have no regets passing on the iPhone.

this or wait for iphone 5?

So i'm getting fed up with sprint atm since i use my phone alot and while originally my service was great the 3g speed now are unbearable due to how often i need to access files from my servers and just general usage, I'm contemplating on waiting to get an iphone 5 or Grab the Galaxy s3 right now. I've used an iphone 2g before i upgrade to the HTC evo 4g and i say i like both operating system. But i do like how integrated everything is in iOS. =( oh decisions decision.

>_> Asking this in a GSIII forum?
GSIII. hands down. Android > iOS

There's no way I could warrant waiting for an unannounced device period, even a nexus. I say go for the gs3 u can't lose
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mystax said:
So i'm getting fed up with sprint atm since i use my phone alot and while originally my service was great the 3g speed now are unbearable due to how often i need to access files from my servers and just general usage, I'm contemplating on waiting to get an iphone 5 or Grab the Galaxy s3 right now. I've used an iphone 2g before i upgrade to the HTC evo 4g and i say i like both operating system. But i do like how integrated everything is in iOS. =( oh decisions decision.
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The iphone 5 is already out. It's called the 4s. Orig Iphone, Iphone 3g, 3gs, 4, 4S = 5. I wouldn't get the 4S I would def go with the GSIII. I am getting a new iphone when they come out to sell on Ebay to the people who are willing to pay way too much for overnight shipping, but I'll be keeping my GSIII for me to use.

mystax said:
So i'm getting fed up with sprint atm since i use my phone alot and while originally my service was great the 3g speed now are unbearable due to how often i need to access files from my servers and just general usage, I'm contemplating on waiting to get an iphone 5 or Grab the Galaxy s3 right now. I've used an iphone 2g before i upgrade to the HTC evo 4g and i say i like both operating system. But i do like how integrated everything is in iOS. =( oh decisions decision.
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Hahahahaha! Okay, now that that is out of the way, GS3 for sure. I too used to use iPhones.. 3/4. Then my buddy showed me a GS2 rooted w/ custom rom. Sold. Got the GS3 the day it was released and gave my iPhone 4 to my girlfriend. Obviously, I hate her. I digress though, I love my GS3 and I do not regret the switch. Running custom ICS AOKP rom and I love it!

That is a no brainer imo. I used to have an iPhone and they don't even come close to the SGSIII. If you like to customize your phone you have to go with the SIII or another Android phone but the SIII is the best on the market I think.

hrmm guess i'll skip on the iphone. Hrmm since i'm stayong android that bring me to the question of unlock galaxy nexus on prepaid or subsided s3 on att hrmm.

>_> Asking this in a GSIII forum?
GSIII. hands down. Android > iOS
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I went through a similar thought process recently, coming from 4+ years with an iPhone (3G & 4). Made the switch because a) I was bored (not necessarily rational, but always fun to try something new, plus girlfriend needed a new phone), and b) I wanted a bigger screen. I can tell you now that the iPhone 4 feels far too small in my hands and I couldn't go back. Keep in mind that there is a 0% chance the iPhone 5 will have anything larger than a 4" screen, so that may make your decision easier if that is something that is important to you.
I do not regret my decision. At first I found Android side of things to be less "polished", but the customization couldn't be beat. But frankly, now that I've discovered CM10, I feel that I finally gave the phone I've always wanted. While some of the TouchWiz features were neat, I feel that Samsung's theming, etc. really cluttered and complicated things, and that vanilla Android is much more on par with the iPhone in terms of polish and ease of use. I really question some of their design decisions.

mystax said:
hrmm guess i'll skip on the iphone. Hrmm since i'm stayong android that bring me to the question of unlock galaxy nexus on prepaid or subsided s3 on att hrmm.
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I had that exact same question... i decided on the sgs3 with att because I expected cyanogen to be developed for it, and I knew it could be rooted easily. Plus it is a really badass chunk of hardware...
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Wait for the new NEXUS in like November.
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I moved from sprint to at&t like 2 weeks ago. Costs the same. Better data speed , coverage, phones and customer care. Only regret is not switching along time ago. AT&T for the win!
I had a 4s and a gs2 on sprint. Now I have a hox and a gs3. Never going back to an iPhone. Restrictive OS. Boring and dull UI. ITunes. No Widgets! No I'm good on all that.only good thing iPhone had going for it was great camera and battery life. IMO maybe android wasn't better in like GB form (even though I think it was), ICS and JB are wwwwaaaayyy better than OSX.
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what do you mean by how everything is intergrated in iOS?

as a phone Samsung was always better than iPhone. Battery is replaceable and memory is expandable. AMOLED screen.
iPhone 5 is a big unknown. Remember antenna issues? Or yellow tint screens? Or sudden cracks on the case? Wanna be Apple beta tester?
iPhone 4S got great battery life, smooth OS and tons of apps going for it.

I say wait for the "iPhone 5" if you can and then see what the Samsung response to that phone is =)
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Do you like to tweak your phone?
If you want to play with your phone, and have as much control over how it behaves as possible then get an android phone hands down.
The reason I chose the S III was because I enjoyed my S I, and because I know there is a huge community around this phone that is working around the clock customizing third party ROMS. If you want to hack your phone, the S III community is the best.

reaganSMASH said:
...Got the GS3 the day it was released and gave my iPhone 4 to my girlfriend. Obviously, I hate her...
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Thank you for the digression! Had a good laugh over that one.
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I decided no more iPhones until they actually make a killer device. This hasn't been done since the iPhone 4. The iPhones are slower and do less. I say gs3 all the way until apple throws in 2gb of ram and a killer processor and graphics chip. I dislike lag and that's what the iPhone will ultimately get you (even the new one).
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As has been stated, this might not be the most neutral place to ask this question... still, here's my story:
I work in an office where *everyone* has an iPhone except me, with my faithful GS3. Previously I had an HTC Desire, which is a nice enough phone but doesn't compare all that well with the iPhone 4S... ever since I got my GS3, people are actually jealous of my phone (people that know nothing about cell phones) and are asking the IT guy why they can't have an awesome phone like me... lol
So long story short, the GS3 is superior to the iPhone 4S in pretty much every respect. Unless you want to wait to see what Apple cooks up for the next generation (and you can bet at this point in the game Samsung/HTC will stay ahead of them, they are already ahead), get yourself a GS3 - hands down the best smartphone on the market right now.

Gargamel has a point.. Wrong place to ask since this is a S3 spot. Though my input is basically the same. I had iphone lovers but once they saw my customization and showing them what the phone can really do they got on android. I also went through all iphones and also currently have an iphone 4 along side my S3. Let me say LTE on AT&T is great.... Iphone got 4.xx MB/S while my S3 got 60 MB/S. I use my S3 more than the iphone lets say that lol. I run into so many iphones with problems it isn't even funny. I do repairs on them on the side for fun.