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So Rogers said i can get a new phone on their retention deal thingies, they basically said i can get any phone i want for the price of the promotion price + a 3 year contract ( not loosing my original plan). I was looking at the Nexus S, but then decided against it because its kinda outdated and well i dont know...im still thinking about it ( i love modding).
My questions is how are the new sony products.....im coming from a motrolla droid > Samsung galaxy s > Htc Desire Z. Now im looking for a new phone cause my HTC broke.
In comparing the Arc vs the PRO(expected released is End of July early August in Canada) what is better? i personally want a qwerty keyboard, but if someone can explain why Sony products are bettter now since the X10 days? Will we be getting all the new android updates in a Favorable time manor? not like 1 year after like the x10s?
Last question how is the rooting and rom development for all 3 new xperia phones? any breakthroughs? Should i buy it through Rogers or should i just fork out the money for a unlocked bootloader? for a pro, or arc. Sighhh, decisions decisions. thanks for any tips
TLDR: Arc vs Pro vs Nexus S vs SGS II
i hated samsung since my SGS basically died and the customer support turned me off. Sony because of their imcomptent plans to release updates after foreverrrr, has that changed?
The arc, neo and play where released with gingerbread 2.3.2. In the last 2 weeks the updates to 2.3.3 where launched. 2.3.4 is expected in fall 2011. So, yes updates are coming and it seams SE has not forgotten their customers. If you buy an unbranded phone, you can root it even with 2.3.3. With a branded phone you can root a 2.3.2 phone via gingerbreak, but not 2.3.3 since it needs an unlocked bootloader and bootloaders can only unlocked with unbranded devices.
Unfortunately there are no custom ROMs yet, but CyanogenMod7 is in the works. It may take a while until its released, but devs are working on it.
None! Go with galaxy s2 or htc sensation! You won't be happy with the sony
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None! Go with galaxy s2 or htc sensation! You won't be happy with the sony
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the only company out of those two i would go for is HTC, Samsung has terrible customer service and due to the dreaded internal sd failure on the SGS models....i just dont trust them. Im looking at SONY now because apparently they are learning from the past and releasing updates quicker, and now with the unlocked bootloaders, i would assume that we can get the newest android updates alot faster....then what sony would have planned. i dont know....
Haven't had much experience on the Pro - but it's obviously going to be pretty much same as Arc but with a hard keyboard - so if that's important to you then the Pro would be more for you.. The Arc (which is what I have).. is an awesome bit of kit and is right up there with the best of them.. performance wise there's not much in it between the Arc and the "dual core" phones now being released.. SE will be releasing timely updates they've confirmed it.. and proven it by releasing the 2.3.3. update 2 months after the phones release.. along with a load of other UI changes too.. the Devs will come in time, if you're into ROM's.. if you're into doing your own mods then suggest you try to get an unbranded one so you can unlock the Bootloader - it does have a downside though.. it removes the DRM stuff so things like track id doesn't work, nor does the new "click on the like button" when listening to music..
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Haven't had much experience on the Pro - but it's obviously going to be pretty much same as Arc but with a hard keyboard - so if that's important to you then the Pro would be more for you.. The Arc (which is what I have).. is an awesome bit of kit and is right up there with the best of them.. performance wise there's not much in it between the Arc and the "dual core" phones now being released.. SE will be releasing timely updates they've confirmed it.. and proven it by releasing the 2.3.3. update 2 months after the phones release.. along with a load of other UI changes too.. the Devs will come in time, if you're into ROM's.. if you're into doing your own mods then suggest you try to get an unbranded one so you can unlock the Bootloader - it does have a downside though.. it removes the DRM stuff so things like track id doesn't work, nor does the new "click on the like button" when listening to music..
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thanks alot buddy! no where when i researched it did it say anything about the drm and track id stuff for unbranded phones! thats good to know. I guess, i will give Sony a shot. Hope updates are strong. and i want to root it and customize it so ill decide between locked or unlocked bootloader.
My previous phone was HTC Desire HD, now my first choice is Samsung Galaxy Note but it is very very very expensive, i can get arc S about 250 Pounds cheaper, what should i do?????
Hows it like to have Xperia arc S? or arc
if you're not that much of a power user and just uses a smartphone for daily handheld internet browsing, some casual gaming, wants to take really good pictures, watch and listen to music and videos from time to time, and wants to be cool and stylish...
the arc/s is more than enough...it's just too dang sexy!
december is also a month where gadgets are an all time low (at least here in my country afaik) so if you're looking to buy an arc/s, xmas season would be a good time...
otherwise, if you're that techy person who likes to try out different stuff with smartphones of all sorts, then uhm imho, i'd wait for a better model that rolls out next year...
*the only thing i dislike about my arc is that it doesn't have a front cam... =(
even if it ain't dual core, i can pretty much utilize the most of it anyways...
Yup. Better wait for 2012 lineup now. Dual core & some say quad processor is a must
If you in the market for Sony wait better handsets are coming
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My previous phone was HTC Desire HD, now my first choice is Samsung Galaxy Note but it is very very very expensive, i can get arc S about 250 Pounds cheaper, what should i do?????
Hows it like to have Xperia arc S? or arc
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go for arc s
Why settle for Arc if you can afford Arc S? Go for the ArcS mate! totally worth it.
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Why settle for Arc if you can afford Arc S? Go for the ArcS mate! totally worth it.
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The Arc S is just an overclocked Arc. You can do that yourself if you root it.
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I also came from desire hd. I use my arc more intensely than my desire hd. Stock rom rooted nothing more. Better battery life, better camera, better everyyhing. I play hd games for good hours experience once in a while lags.
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I suggest you to wait and see the 2012 lineup, maybe the Nozomi is the one for you, or maybe the galaxy Note is not as expensive as it is right now.
In my case I'm very happy with my Arc, specially with the design (the most beautifull up to date to me) and it can run all the apps that i need without problem.
Regards
thanks All,
i have already ordered a Xperia Arc S, but unfortunately i am having issues with my mobile company over some previous address, well i will try to sort it out if not than i will push vodafone for Galaxy nexus.
My ARC is just arriving next week...
I am so eager to put my hands on it...
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Cool. You'll love it.
Haha I'm also from desire hd too..end using a Arc.
Well I like the physical buttons below.no need to press the top button to wake up the phone.
But might wanna get arc s..since it's on a 1.4ghz processor.
Then again there be many models that coming out on at least 1.5ghz dual core etc phones.
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Yes, I would also like to know how satisfied Arc owners are, if the rumors of the Arc HD (Nozomi) are true. It's a beautiful phone, and having owned three different iPhones, I can say that is the thing I miss the most since I switched in November to Android. I know that the SE Android phones have not exactly been spec kings, but has that been really noticeable with your current Arcs?
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Yes, I would also like to know how satisfied Arc owners are, if the rumors of the Arc HD (Nozomi) are true. It's a beautiful phone, and having owned three different iPhones, I can say that is the thing I miss the most since I switched in November to Android. I know that the SE Android phones have not exactly been spec kings, but has that been really noticeable with your current Arcs?
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Sorry Sony lovers but im not satisfied, im waiting for. Gs3 or iphone5 this will be my last Sony phone
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It's a lot faster than my old phone(LG optimus One). I'm satisfied.
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Yes, I would also like to know how satisfied Arc owners are, if the rumors of the Arc HD (Nozomi) are true. It's a beautiful phone, and having owned three different iPhones, I can say that is the thing I miss the most since I switched in November to Android. I know that the SE Android phones have not exactly been spec kings, but has that been really noticeable with your current Arcs?
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It's a quite satisfying phone to have, I love mine.
There are always phones that are better and phones that are worse though.
It's a never-ending process.
There is absolutely no difference between ARC or ARC S except Arc S has 1.4Ghz processor.
The only reason i upgraded to Arc S was for the 3D Multiangle, but SE never included that feature
If you get yourself an Arc S at least you won`t have the bother of unlocking bootloader to overclock
NB. I Still love my ARC, best phone i`ve ever had
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There is absolutely no difference between ARC or ARC S except Arc S has 1.4Ghz processor.
The only reason i upgraded to Arc S was for the 3D Multiangle, but SE never included that feature
If you get yourself an Arc S at least you won`t have the bother of unlocking bootloader to overclock
NB. I Still love my ARC, best phone i`ve ever had
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Not true at all.
Arc S scores much better than Arc is every benchmark.
Plus is has double download/upload speed (from 7.2 to 14.4)
Anyway it's a great phone.
I'd say double core doesn't matter yet. Arc works like a charm.
Interesting. I'm guessing Sony has some optimization/HW acceleration that others don't have. I heard how smooth the SGSII (AT&T SGH-i777) was, but when I switched from the 4s, it still felt slower than either my 4 or 4s, and while it may have been better at surviving a fall, it just felt cheap. That's why I want to find out about the Sony devices before I waste any time (and $35) trying them out.
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How does the Defy+ compare to Xperia Mini Pro and Ray phones. I want to recommend to my cousing sister.
We looked at Ace, Wildfire S, Xperia series, Ray, Galsxy SLCD (I have this one)
Defy+ seems to have good features at a fair price. Is the phone good?
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How does the Defy+ compare to Xperia Mini Pro and Ray phones. I want to recommend to my cousing sister.
We looked at Ace, Wildfire S, Xperia series, Ray, Galsxy SLCD (I have this one)
Defy+ seems to have good features at a fair price. Is the phone good?
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I think below the 20k range Defy plus is the best .. for the features and its cost..
It counts only if u are ready to root ur mobile ..
Because Motorola sucks in giving software updates and most probably it will remain in GB only ..
Apart from these ..its the best ..Life proof
My vote goes for DEFY+, too, because of the superior build quality.
Besides that, no official ICS update is a minus, but CM9 will be available soon enough. On the stock Gingerbread, DEFY+ does everything and opens everything. Really, everything works! That's why I loved it from the beginning.
Other than stock, there are some stable CM and MIUI versions available for it and they will improve the experience further, with good looks and better speed, you know how it goes...
One more huge plus is that "Lifeproof" feature It's true. (Read the short story in my signature )
Cheers!
@kanna91 and @niksy+, thanks for the replies.
My sis is not going to change ROMS, maybe I can do it for her once initially. I have experience with flashing my Galaxy SLCD, don;t know if this would be similar.
Which ROM is recommended?
I would advise you to try the latest stable CM7.1.0-11. That's what I use and it's stable for the average user. (no need for troubleshooting skills and such)
I cannot say anything about MIUI or similar.
I don't think your sister is a great gamer. The stock ROM is enough. Is not as speedy as Cm7 but it has less bugs. And the battery is better. I tried CM7 but I come back to my default ROM (in Romania 2.3.5 it the official one). Just root it, delete 7player, task manager, cardio trainer and zinio and install RAM manager from android marker. The free version has just balance profile but is enought. Is not a app killer because this drains bat but optimise the RAM usage (less lag). Believe me, it works. The developer is one of us, a XDA member.
For CM7, you should wait for the final version.
For a girl, Xperia Ray looks better than Defy. I asked my girlfriend and she told me that. For me, as a male, Defy looks better. Also, Ray will receive ICS update...official. But that's not very important for a girl: she will want a good looking phone, without functionality problems.
A girl, huh? My girlfriend likes my DEFY+, but wants a RAZR MAXX
Best ROMs I know about are MIUI Pikachu Edition and CM White Rabbit Edition. I'm getting 3 days battery life with Pikachu.
Anyway, I don't know, really... I don't like pointing people in the wrong direction :/ I've set up my phone real nice now, but it took a while and, like you said, your sister won't be up for that...
All I can say is that DEFY(+) is a really well built phone.
If I was going to buy an Android now, I would choose a phone with unlockable bootloader,
from a brand that could guarantee upgrade for at least Ice Cream Sandwich.
Get MIUI. Chicks dig it.
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Get MIUI. Chicks dig it.
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Yep, would be mu recommendation as well if you want to install a ROM (alone because of the beautiful UI.design). Although there are less ROMs for the Plus (compared to the og Defy) I think the Pikachu Edition should work fine, installing ROMs on the phone is super easy.
If possible, I'd go into a store and try these phones, look which suites her needs best.
It is a nice phone with a good price, not really sexy but reliable. Speed is acceptable, camera is ok. The screen is bigger than the one one the other phones you mentioned (except Galaxy S which is better overall imho).
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If I was going to buy an Android now, I would choose a phone with unlockable bootloader,
from a brand that could guarantee upgrade for at least Ice Cream Sandwich.
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That's the point: SE Xperia Ray has unlocked bootloader and official support from Cyanogen Mod too. Also, it will get ICS officially.
Defy+ is still not directed supported by XDA developers. If you install an MIUI should get the correct batt file for correct battery monitor. Pikacku edition have some stupid bugs like gallery cannot delete pictures.
My advice is to ask your sister what phone likes more (design and construction). Than purchase it. Purchasing any of them is all right. Both have vanilla roms, both are well designed and so on. Also, see that Sony Ericsson received 4 iF design awards.
I've tested a Ray before purchasing Defy+ but I preferred Defy+. Also, before it, I owned a Defy.
hi there
its about time i upgraded from my HTC Desire, and I thought I had decided on the Xperia T, but then there is all the stuff with LTE etc..
the main reasons for upgrading are wanting a decent camera to take snaps and videos. and it to be a bit more powerful.
so I have found an Xperia Ion on eBay here in the UK for 40 or so £ less than the T, its the LT28i version so has the LTE, but only comes with Gingerbread.
my question is (are)
can i stick ICS on it without any problems - there is a post on the Xperria blog that seems to say it goes on there fin (xperiablog.net/2012/09/14/xperia-ion-lte-lt28i-android-4-0-4-ics-update-starts-rolling-out/[/url]) (why does it even come with Gingerbread which is very out of date indeed)
it will work in the UK presumably ?
is it that much worse than the Xperia T
as I am coming from an old Desire - which I love to bits, so any upgrade will be an improvement.
not sure if I should post the ebay link on here so I wont but suffice to say I searched for 'xperia ion lt28i' on ebay uk and it was the second one down
any help, thoughts much appreciated
thanks
nat
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hi there
its about time i upgraded from my HTC Desire, and I thought I had decided on the Xperia T, but then there is all the stuff with LTE etc..
the main reasons for upgrading are wanting a decent camera to take snaps and videos. and it to be a bit more powerful.
so I have found an Xperia Ion on eBay here in the UK for 40 or so £ less than the T, its the LT28i version so has the LTE, but only comes with Gingerbread.
my question is (are)
can i stick ICS on it without any problems - there is a post on the Xperria blog that seems to say it goes on there fin (xperiablog.net/2012/09/14/xperia-ion-lte-lt28i-android-4-0-4-ics-update-starts-rolling-out/[/url]) (why does it even come with Gingerbread which is very out of date indeed)
it will work in the UK presumably ?
is it that much worse than the Xperia T
as I am coming from an old Desire - which I love to bits, so any upgrade will be an improvement.
not sure if I should post the ebay link on here so I wont but suffice to say I searched for 'xperia ion lt28i' on ebay uk and it was the second one down
any help, thoughts much appreciated
thanks
nat
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Hi there, I have an Ion too and live in the UK. If you go on PC companion then it will detect that it has an update and that is the Ice Cream Sandwhich! I bought my Ion in Indonesia but atm it's broken and I can't turn it on (((( been like this for a week but before it happened, I updated it to ice cream sandwhich and it was glorious
and just in my opinion, if you're stressing to find a good browser, the ics stock browser has literally everthing you need that the other browsers have and it's also light so yeah
ENJOY YOUR ION!!!!
p.s Oh and the Ion is a great overall phone, the display, camera, interface, multimedia, and hardware features such as nfc etc is just amazing, althought the battery life could have been better, I think it differs in each device, some had lasted theirs for 10+ hours of heavy usage while mine lasted 8 hours with heavy usage I wouldn't get the T because the on-screen buttons will take a couple of inches from the 4.55" screen
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is it that much worse than the Xperia T
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904531
hi
thanks for the replies
looks like this might be the one for me..
presumably its not a nightmare to root, and there are some roms knocking about?
does it take a standard or micro SIM ?
..as in do I need to order a fresh one from O2
thanks again
been really helpful
nat
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hi
thanks for the replies
looks like this might be the one for me..
presumably its not a nightmare to root, and there are some roms knocking about?
does it take a standard or micro SIM ?
..as in do I need to order a fresh one from O2
thanks again
been really helpful
nat
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Very easy to root. No other roms available and it takes a micro sim.
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Very easy to root. No other roms available and it takes a micro sim.
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hi spectre,
thanks, are there likely to be? or is the sony ICS pretty nice, I did like to flash ROMs on my desire - which clearly had a shed load of ROM options.
I know that the Ion is fairly new, but I imagine the number of devs working with Sony phones is fewer? maybe just you
I am so torn at the moment for getting a new phone it ridiculous
the Ion I can get here for £329 and the T for £419
neither is particularly cheap
as I may have mentioned I want a decent camera, but the LTE of the Ion is swaying me slightly, but knowing my luck when it does come to the UK we no doubt will have adopted a completely different version ..
and its not the slimmest of phones either..
still thinking about the HTC one x - but no additional storage may kill that one. I have an SD card in my desire that is brimming with MP3's
nat
Well cyanogen nightlies just started being released so there's hope. Sony's ICS is really nice. Well built and runs great on any of their 2012 phones.
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Well cyanogen nightlies just started being released so there's hope. Sony's ICS is really nice. Well built and runs great on any of their 2012 phones.
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thanks for the reply
given the choice, which would you pick?
think LTE may actually be a pointless specification for the UK for what might be 3 years..
seems like the difference is about 80£ and NFC - which I am not sure I would use anyway. and the T is slightly slimmer and lighter
also hear the Ion battery is a bit rubbish - maybe that is just the LTE clobbering it.
If I didn't have one and was trying yo pick I would probably go for the T seeing as it has the S4 processor and is the new flagship. I do love my ion though and think its a great phone. You can't really go wrong with either phone but if you are gonna want a choice in a bunch of different roms then the T will be a better choice. I think it will have more dev support.
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Hello,
I'm considering a new phone and have been looking at the Xperia S/SL. I like the feel of the devices and the design. I think having a physical camera button is great! If you have an S/SL, what do you like most about it? What do you like the least? Seems other than 2 additional colors and a bump in CPU speed, the SL is the same as the S. Is that so? Most everything I've seen in terms of customization (new ROMs, etc) talk about the S and not the SL. Can I safely assume that the S and SL are synonymous with regards to rooting, ROMs, etc.?
Thanks,
cesman
Well I must say the XS is awesome, i mena the camera is great (except some autofocus issues, however you can get another app for that) the screen is gorgeous, flaws ... must I say non removeable battery, lacking micro sd port (however 32 gb I think It's fair enough)
I should go for the S if you want to unlock your bootloader
You can flash a custom kernel to have 1.7GHz like SL, no other main difference between S and SL.
The camera is good, and the device runs smooth with some tweaks for custom looks it's the same as other devices, you can always customize Android
Non removable battery and no micro-sd slot doesn't bother me, there is a key reset combo and I don't need more then 32GB
Battery life isn't superb, but also not really bad, you can easily get one day or more. Unless you are a very heavy user or have a lot of apps that sync data
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just like my phone have lots of apps that need sync , and thats why i bought smartphone , so it can sync automatically and not to do it manually.
For the price you really can't go wrong, you get a stunning 300+ PPI 720p HD screen, a 12mp Camera and a decent dual core.
It's got a gorgeous UI but since it's an android you're probably going to be skinning it anyways. It feels weighty and it's sturdy, it doesn't feel cheap at all and you feel like you're holding a sturdy phone. Build quality is good, I've dropped it countless times and it's still yet to break for me.
You can unlock the bootloader officially which is good and it really isn't all that hard to root the device and install roms on it.
The downsides I'd say is the non-removable battery which for is a concern and a problem considering the battery isn't all the impressive, It lasts me from 8am in the morning to about 3-4am with low/moderate usage.
32gb for most people should be more than enough.
Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
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Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
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Interesting choice of adjectives as some would consider "amazing" better than "good". I held the Z in my hand at CES and didn't care for the feel. The ZL has a much better hand feel. If anything, that is the phone I'd wait for... As long as I can get it unlocked. I'm more attached to the Xperia line than the Galaxy... Although it is nice that Galaxy has official CM releases up to the current M1.
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Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
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I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
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IPMART Malaysia
javitogomezzzz said:
Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
any body make a custom rom for Xperia SL (Real SL)
becuase all of custom rom are Xperia S
I guess all Roms for Xperia s will be compatible with the sl. Not sure though.
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It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
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Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
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Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
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It'll be better to get an S!! because its tries and tested and u have a lot of ppl to hold u back!! SL is just picking up!
The S is exactly the same as the SL just the SL is overclocked from the factory. I have a SL, shoulda just bought the S and saved some money.
Is something wrong with the device
i want to know is there something wrong with the hardware or anything i really want to buy it but m confused.