I am wanting to make sure that these are the general speeds everyone else is getting with their E4GT. I noticed that it generally takes so much longer when trying to do anything with the an application that uses the data connection.
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This is generally consistent for my area, and I am wondering if it is a malfunctioning tower, or what. 4G Speeds are consistently great, when I get a 4G Signal (which isn't at my house).
As far as battery life goes, I literally received 6 hours of usage on a full charge yesterday. I had flashed my phone thursday night to EL13, and I have been EL13 before and was experiencing some pretty good usage.
I am wondering if I should reflash again, and start from scratch all over again. I have calibrated the battery by letting it die off, then charging it to 100, didn't seem to help.
Well i can say this. It looks like in general you are in weak signal areas most of the time. Weak signals from tours and terrible battery life absolutely go hand in hand. See it works like this. The weaker the signal the more power your phone puts out in order to increase the strength of the signal. With a great signal and not touching my phone it could sleep for 4-7 days before running out of battery. How ever at my old work place where i had a terrible signal in just 5-6 hours of my phone in sleep mode i could easilly go from. 100% charge to 30%. A bad signal will drain your battery faster than almost anything you could otherwise do on your phone except maybe recording HD video. Hooe this helps you. Feel free to ask a question via pm if i was confusing at all.
EDIT- Sprint is known for giving away free Air Wave's to people to boost signal at your house which should increase your battery life dramatically. Also there could be a problem keeping your phone from going into a deep sleep which also could eat your battery alive also. Some times its comonly a app that you installed that could cause. Your phone not to go into a deep sleep. If you have the bad luck of having a combo of both of these problems your phone battery wouldnt stand a chance sadly
In the first picture, regarding speedtest, I would generally agree. I just took that at my house literally 20 minutes before posting.
But the other pictures, have 4 to 5 bars. Assuming that amount of bars is relative to signal, wouldn't that indicate that I have a pretty good signal?
Could be work on your local tower too. Call *2 and see if there is any reported outage as well.
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As gho stated there may be an outage or there are working on the towers. As far as battery life i suffered from it. Now battery life seems better once i downloaded juice defender and ram manager
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My speeds are creeping up... I use to get 3.x on 3G where I live.
Now at work, its a different story... Horrible.
Battery life is great, but the bad signal theory mentioned can be a problem in areas.
Ho-lee-crap does a low signal area suck your battery dry. I did some x-mas shopping (moar like browsing) in North Hampton. I don't really ever go there except around x-mas time to bar hop and pretend to x-mas shop with some friends....and holy crap, the Sprint signal sucked there...and Verizon signal even seemed to suck there. I could barely even roam. Got the "absolutely no signal" circle, feared it was LOS coming back from the ancient past, but as soon as we left the bar I was lucky enough to roam with 0 bars.
I have been getting 24-38 hours (estimated) battery life lately. (Assuming that I would have a similar usage pattern the next day.) I charge at night at roughly 35-50% and take it off the charger at 4am before work. Typically no charging all day.
So I knew I would be out all day so I charged it up at work. Left at 12pm at 100%, min200, max200, conservative governor. Twiddled a little on the ride...got there around 1ish...left around 4ish. Took a few pictures. Didn't do a go damned thing with data, that's for sure. I was at 20% the next I looked.
Like whoa.
I do have an airave, however, I had turned it off as I was wanting to do some experimental testing with our home network. Was wanting to eliminate that as a cause of the problem.
Seems like I have fixed the problem since then, so I will be turning it back on.
But I am concerned by this, because well, while I can live with a phone that lasts a day in a bad signal area, 5 hours for me is beyond ridiculous, even my HTC Hero would last longer in a low/non-signal area. That is my big concern.
What are other people averaging in their speedtest.net apps for this phone?
Try turning off the proxies and see if that helps you. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283229) it maybe the proxies in your area are particularly bad.
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I do have an airave, however, I had turned it off as I was wanting to do some experimental testing with our home network. Was wanting to eliminate that as a cause of the problem.
Seems like I have fixed the problem since then, so I will be turning it back on.
But I am concerned by this, because well, while I can live with a phone that lasts a day in a bad signal area, 5 hours for me is beyond ridiculous, even my HTC Hero would last longer in a low/non-signal area. That is my big concern.
What are other people averaging in their speedtest.net apps for this phone?
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3G is wildly unreliable for me. Most times I'll get miserable speeds like in the first shot and then sometimes I'll decent speeds like in the second screenshot.
4G is okay although I should note that I had to go to my yard to get signal because despite the fact that I live in a strong "in-building" 4G signal area, I can't get signal inside my place anywhere.
:doh:
I haven't had to mess with the airave in so long, that I forgot what port it has to be plugged into.
I have it setup so that it goes:
Modem > Router > Airave
Does it need to be plugged into WAN, LAN1, LAN2. Obviously it shouldn't be plugged into WAN, but, I am not sure if the WAN port automatically falls over to a LAN Port if recognized as such.
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This didn't really help. It actually made my problems much worse at my house.
Thats surprising air wave insanely increases 3G speed. Here are my speeds on 3G
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Sprint is the worst of the big four U.S. carriers as far as network goes. Their 3G speeds are slower than 1990's dial up modems. And WiMax 4G is so spotty and hard to hold it seems more like a gimmick, than actually something meant to be used regularly.
ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon 3G speeds are easily ten times faster. Sprint's 3G feels like it is stuck on 1x or Edge all the time
Now the Epic 4G Touch is an awesome device itself, I love this phone, best smartphone I ever owned. But Sprint just sucks, not in the same league as Verizon or ATT.
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Thats surprising air wave insanely increases 3G speed. Here are my speeds on 3G
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As I mentioned, I didn't have it plugged in as I was doing testing on my network.
However, I need some confirmation as to what LAN/WAN port to plug it into behind a router. As I have forgotten, and regardless of what port I plug it into, the Airave still fails to give me a confirmed status check (by dialing *99).
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As I mentioned, I didn't have it plugged in as I was doing testing on my network.
However, I need some confirmation as to what LAN/WAN port to plug it into behind a router. As I have forgotten, and regardless of what port I plug it into, the Airave still fails to give me a confirmed status check (by dialing *99).
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WAN Port. Mine Goes Modem -> Router -> WAN Port on Airave (I have the "Airvana", which is the 2nd generation of this device).
SuperG03
Compared to Verisons 1.5Mb/sec - 2.5Mb/sec 3g my .8Mb/sec - 1.2Mb/sec 3g on. Sprint seemed slow to me. But after seing some of you guys that are experiencing .1 - .3Mb/sec i feel lucky to be clearing 1Mb/sec some times. I cant beleive you guys stick around getting 150kps. I would havr bailed a long time ago with those speeds.
bars dont indicate data signal strength. it indicates voice signal strength. you can have no bars and still get 3g, or all bars and no 3g.
Zorachus said:
Sprint is the worst of the big four U.S. carriers as far as network goes. Their 3G speeds are slower than 1990's dial up modems. And WiMax 4G is so spotty and hard to hold it seems more like a gimmick, than actually something meant to be used regularly.
ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon 3G speeds are easily ten times faster. Sprint's 3G feels like it is stuck on 1x or Edge all the time
Now the Epic 4G Touch is an awesome device itself, I love this phone, best smartphone I ever owned. But Sprint just sucks, not in the same league as Verizon or ATT.
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Do you remember how slow dialup was? The majority of us beat that quite significantly. Also once I changed my proxies (shame it didn't work here) Sprint is on par with Verizon 3g here
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Sprint sucks. At my house I'm lucky if I get 100kbps. But if I drive 5 miles I'm next to a good tower and getting 1400kbps during peak hours.
I keep my phone on wifi as much as possible and use verizon towers, this combo with the cost I'm paying is worth it to me.
Check out 3G improvements being worked on in your area: https://network.sprint.com/
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for the hell of it i just did a speedtest on my Inc2 and these were the results:
Ping - 219ms
Download Speed - 0.29 Mbps
Upload Speed - 0.26 Mbps
my phone is currently showing 3 bars.
when i had the Thunderbolt it was showing like 7 Mbps DL & 2 Mbps UL in this area(without 4G).
does anyone else have crap speeds to?
You are comparing a 3G phone (Inc2) to a 4G phone (Thunderbolt)... Ofcourse its going to be slower...
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he said without 4G... should be the same.
I find it highly suspect that a 3G connection was generating 7mbit. The maximum burst rate (meaning: not streaming rate) is 3mbit for EVDO Rev.A. Both the Thunderbolt and the Incredible 2 have 3G radios using Rev.A, not Rev.B.
I've noticed sometimes the connectivity indicator has a delayed update and I can be connected to 3G before the icon changes from 1x to 3G coming out of the parking garage at my office (I can tell because streams that don't work on 1x would start up fine).
I've been able to get over 1mbit consistently on my Inc2, and have been able to exceed 2mbit in some areas.
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for the hell of it i just did a speedtest on my Inc2 and these were the results:
Ping - 219ms
Download Speed - 0.29 Mbps
Upload Speed - 0.26 Mbps
my phone is currently showing 3 bars.
when i had the Thunderbolt it was showing like 7 Mbps DL & 2 Mbps UL in this area(without 4G).
does anyone else have crap speeds to?
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yea... mine has been annoying me too. I always seem to get a higher upload than I do download speed.
This is after 4 tries back to back, all of them upload speed was higher.
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Even though Tmobile sucks when it comes to coverage area, I kind of miss the 3g speeds I had with them. My Vibrant would hit 5 mbps constantly
Just used the same SpeedTest.net app, after three back to back tries:
Down: 1742, 1192, 1894 kbps
Up: 589, 675, 543 kbps
Ping: 185, 140, 220 ms
Full bars in northern NJ
Full bars
signal around -71 dBm
Ping: 211ms
Download: 884kbps
Upload: 699kbps
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yea... mine has been annoying me too. I always seem to get a higher upload than I do download speed.
This is after 4 tries back to back, all of them upload speed was higher.
Houston, Tx by the way
Even though Tmobile sucks when it comes to coverage area, I kind of miss the 3g speeds I had with them. My Vibrant would hit 5 mbps constantly
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what rom are you on?
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Stock rooted Gingersense, I took a screenshot back at my desk where I have no bars but was outside when I ran the test.
Had full bars and i'm on the new radio.
You need to turn on Roaming I know it doesn't make any sense
Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Data Roaming Checked & CDMA Options - SYS select automatic. There I bet it's fixed.
I live in Philly across from a major hospital with thousands of people inside.
I have 3 bars at my house usually. When I first got my OG Droid it was faster than my DSL at 2200k. Then after I guess more people got smartphones it got slower and slower.
I was getting max 200k oftentimes 80k at my house since Fall '10. At work it is much better around 1200k stable but at 5pm at work used to kick me off the network. No biggie right I have wifi at home. Well it is a pain if you take a walk outside and there is a dead zone around your house.
So I decided to try a friends Sprint phone. SAME EXACT signal readings same speed. Got an Inc 2 finally I thought my droid was crap. Same thing with new phone.
Then I started trying everything. Turned on Roaming as noted above bingo!
I have a feeling Sprint / Verizon towers are used jointly? Like you need roaming for things to work properly in downtown philly. I don't know but I don't loose connection anymore whenever I have bars showing. Where in areas that there are a large number of people I had problems previously at peak hours. Now everything is stable now.
It doesn't make any sense to me at all. It is turned off by default on all phones?? But the difference is like night and day. I mean I know Verizon/Sprint share networks but that should only be in the boonies? I would love an answer. Just don't go overseas with that enabled.
i am satisfied with my inc2 data speeds. i put my inc2 next to an evo 4g (running in 3g mode because there is no 4g in my area)...and the inc2 loaded all the websites i tested quicker than the evo.
the inc2 was showing 1 to 2 bars, the evo showing full bars... i would click on a link at the same time on both phones and inc2 won everytime.
I average a MB up and down, zero complains. Running 2.3.3 (recent upgrade).
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I used to get atleast 1MB with 3+ bars on stock froyo before S-OFF, but after I installed CM7 Beta 1 I'm getting lower bars than I did before, is that happening with anyone else, or is it one of those things you just randomly notice?
pinakaeus said:
I used to get atleast 1MB with 3+ bars on stock froyo before S-OFF, but after I installed CM7 Beta 1 I'm getting lower bars than I did before, is that happening with anyone else, or is it one of those things you just randomly notice?
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Don't look st the bars. They are set to show so many based on signal and that changes from Rom to Rom (why a dx can show 4 bars but I have 2) go to settings about phone and look at your signal strength.
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Yianaki said:
Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Data Roaming Checked & CDMA Options - SYS select automatic. There I bet it's fixed.
I live in Philly across from a major hospital with thousands of people inside.
I have 3 bars at my house usually. When I first got my OG Droid it was faster than my DSL at 2200k. Then after I guess more people got smartphones it got slower and slower.
I was getting max 200k oftentimes 80k at my house since Fall '10. At work it is much better around 1200k stable but at 5pm at work used to kick me off the network. No biggie right I have wifi at home. Well it is a pain if you take a walk outside and there is a dead zone around your house.
So I decided to try a friends Sprint phone. SAME EXACT signal readings same speed. Got an Inc 2 finally I thought my droid was crap. Same thing with new phone.
Then I started trying everything. Turned on Roaming as noted above bingo!
I have a feeling Sprint / Verizon towers are used jointly? Like you need roaming for things to work properly in downtown philly. I don't know but I don't loose connection anymore whenever I have bars showing. Where in areas that there are a large number of people I had problems previously at peak hours. Now everything is stable now.
It doesn't make any sense to me at all. It is turned off by default on all phones?? But the difference is like night and day. I mean I know Verizon/Sprint share networks but that should only be in the boonies? I would love an answer. Just don't go overseas with that enabled.
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if I enable roaming though it gives me a warning about extra charges. is that true?
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if I enable roaming though it gives me a warning about extra charges. is that true?
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well yes, if you're roaming.
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if I enable roaming though it gives me a warning about extra charges. is that true?
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Verizon has a roaming agreement with sprint. I think it would only come into play overseas. In Europe that setting could get you in to trouble.
Had Roaming on from NY to SC not a peep from Verizon billing.
It's much faster right less data drops too.
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Verizon has a roaming agreement with sprint. I think it would only come into play overseas. In Europe that setting could get you in to trouble.
Had Roaming on from NY to SC not a peep from Verizon billing.
It's much faster right less data drops too.
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It's true
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Yianaki said:
Wireless & Networks - Mobile Networks - Data Roaming Checked & CDMA Options - SYS select automatic. There I bet it's fixed.
I live in Philly across from a major hospital with thousands of people inside.
I have 3 bars at my house usually. When I first got my OG Droid it was faster than my DSL at 2200k. Then after I guess more people got smartphones it got slower and slower.
I was getting max 200k oftentimes 80k at my house since Fall '10. At work it is much better around 1200k stable but at 5pm at work used to kick me off the network. No biggie right I have wifi at home. Well it is a pain if you take a walk outside and there is a dead zone around your house.
So I decided to try a friends Sprint phone. SAME EXACT signal readings same speed. Got an Inc 2 finally I thought my droid was crap. Same thing with new phone.
Then I started trying everything. Turned on Roaming as noted above bingo!
I have a feeling Sprint / Verizon towers are used jointly? Like you need roaming for things to work properly in downtown philly. I don't know but I don't loose connection anymore whenever I have bars showing. Where in areas that there are a large number of people I had problems previously at peak hours. Now everything is stable now.
It doesn't make any sense to me at all. It is turned off by default on all phones?? But the difference is like night and day. I mean I know Verizon/Sprint share networks but that should only be in the boonies? I would love an answer. Just don't go overseas with that enabled.
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It is often the case that providers will share towers. Many communities hate the sight of towers in their area (they're ugly...yes, this really does happen) so they are forced to keep them to a minimum. They share towers but not necessarily radio equipment, so you may not be necessarily be running through Sprint on a Sprint tower.
Not terrible. Houston
I'm on ATT with an SGSII right now and get ****ty data performance. Voice isn't that much better. I get like 1 - 2 Mbit download speeds, and the phone is capable of something like 18Mbit. I'm thinking about making the move to Sprint. Anything I should know? Anyone using an Epic 4G Touch in the SF Bay Area?
As far as data goes, you'll most likely not get those speeds on Sprint (as far as 1-2 Mbit) but just like anything YMMV (a lot here complain about their data speeds and they don't even get close to those speeds).
But to my knowledge, the AT&T version gets way more support in development due to it being GSM like the international SGS2, so ports are easier and what not. So if you like rooting you'll probably miss that.
If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.
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If data speeds are your primary reason, then do not switch. There's a very good chance that your speeds would be even worse with Sprint. They're working on it, but their data network sucks right now.
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relative to where you are, i great great 3g and 4g speeds.
just like any other cell phone provider.
To the OP. I would say go buy one and test it out first in the places you go daily. I have no issues at all where I am with call quality or data speeds. Also the simply everything plan cant be beat.
However, as stated, the ATT version gets, MUCH more dev support because its GSM, and it will likely get updates first.
BUT, it is great to have the extra .2 of in inch on the screen and also to have an LED for notifications
On sprint, you will get 1-2 Mbit MAX download speeds. In almost every case, less than that.
If you have wimax in your area, then you could get anywhere from 5-15 Mbit (it varies greatly, and depends on signal strength). Most of the time when you're indoors you won't get great 4g signal strength.
If you consistently use more than 2gb of data per month, then sprint is a decent option, or verizon if they are still doing double data deals.
Last I heard sprint recently improved in SF bay area, so you may have good results.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sp...coverage-in-san-francisco-bay-area-2011-12-08
Sprint is also cheaper than AT&T, and many employers offer discounts for sprint.
If speed is your concern in good 4g areas all my tmobile friends get 15mb /2mb on thier sgs2
I have the sprint one i usually get 300kb-800kb/500kb in the day time
at night(2am-6am) 1000-13000/ 800-1000kb
I'm about to switch because of the throttling that att is about to start doing. Grandfathered into unlimited, but they don't like us using more than 5gb.
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If speed is something you desire, two words:
Don't
(see what I did there?)
As a 13 year Sprint customer, I have to say that I've never been more disappointed with their service. My 3G speeds have been terrible, and inconsistent on top of it (from bad to worse). I cannot in good conscience recommend that anyone switch to Sprint at the moment.
Hopefully they'll fix whatever's been broken for the last 60 days or so (and it could just be the iPhone effect), and I'll be able to once again recommend Sprint. At the moment, not so much...
I miss att i got the epic 4g touch and wish i was still on att. I would trade you if you switch i had good att speeds in union city ca 94587.
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I would not switch for data speeds. This is what I get right next to a tower at work. Granted I get maybe 250kbs at home, but I never get more than 40kbs while at work, sometimes like 10-15kbs. And its a heavily populated area. they are doing upgrades, or so they say.
Here's an overview of my last speed runs, not impressive...
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Yeah, for your own sake, do not switch just for the data speeds, not worth it, anything else Sprint is good.
Depends on where you are. I'm in Charlotte NC and Sprints data sucks ass. In the Northeast from Baltimore to New York is crazy fast especially in D.C. I been up there and sad to come back to slow molasses ass data. Thank god for wifi. Try the Epic Touch for two weeks and then decide.
4g from my house.
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I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.
You really have to get one and try from home,work,etc and remember you only have 14 days to return. Here are some average marks for me...middle of the pack tests. 4g on different server about 150 miles away. That's why I have high ping...
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Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce
Around here Sprint has been sucking, but, I've tried Verizon recently...Sprint is actually extremely competitive with Verizon (3g) data speeds around here these days. I thought Sprint sucked around here, it ends up the grass is, in fact ,always green on the other side....in fact, it is actually as green and often greener on the Sprint side.
Is my point to OP that Sprint is good for his purposes? Lol. No, far from it. In fact quite the opposite. I could switch to AT*T for cheaper than my Sprint line (for tiered data, guh) but much much better data rates, or Verizon for better coverage and only slightly more expensive...but...I haven't. Why? When the meat hits the metal I've got something that is already great for me (acceptable speeds, relatively speaking) and have something I would hate to lose (unlimited data).
I think from the sound of OP that he has something that is great for him (can live with his tiered or throttled data) and has something he would hate to lose (2-4+mbps data rates).
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I advise going to the Sprint store where you live and testing data speeds on the floor phones.
Then, if it's satisfactory, you always have 14 days if things change depending on other areas to travel frequently.
It really isn't helpful to you if someone that's on the other side of the country is telling you about their data speeds.
All carriers, even Verizon, vary based upon area.
As far as with the Epic Touch, make sure it's up to date so you don't have any LOS issue and you'll love the phone.
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There's Matty giving the best answer again.. Nothings changed.
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Lmao. Visit the sprint section before you think of it. May as well go to Verizon because you won't be happy with sprint data speeds at all. Ps winmax kills your battery something fierce
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wimax isn't too bad like it was on last years wimax devices. It sleeps frequently and battery lasts pretty long under moderate usage. Its probably better on battery than Verizon's LTE phones
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Hello,
Recently bought S3 and am in the process of switching to Sprint from Vzw. Currently both phones are active (although my Rezound still has Gingerbread as the ICS upgrade still hasn't dropped and I don't yet want to register my phone as rooted through HTC). I've been comparing the radio signals via settings (ie NOT using bars as the measure) in different location and I'm completely confused at some of the results.
At home, I have good reception on both. The Rezound is pulling around -56 and the S3 -65. Not bad from all that I heard about potentially bad radio. But yesterday, I was in my drs office, and the Rez was pulling -65 and the S3 -104 and was freakin' roaming on data when I'm in a full, strongest area Sprint cell area. I also checked them at the hospital when I was there and had similar results although the S3 wasn't roaming at that point but the radio was still at -104...I had one bar and made a trial call to my DH and it was crystal clear...better than Vzw has ever been.
So what the heck is going on? I understand that GB and ICS have some difference in measuring the radio strength but for the radio to nearly match at home, and drop by half only 1 mile from where I live and be roaming at 2 miles from where I live is craziness. What do you think is going on? Is this an S3 problem and Sprint problem or what? My DH's S3 is acting the same way so I'm confused and at a loss.
Problem is, after only having it two days, we're both so in love with it that we can't imagine not having the S3!
Any info, guidance, etc would be uber helpful. I have to decide in the next week whether to go with Sprint or stay with Vzw which I DON'T want to do and also do an AOL on my Vzw account.
I also checked the area where it started roaming on data and there was FULL service for data in the area and no roaming area for miles around.
Personally for me. Sprint. Hated every second of that carrier.
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But this isn't about Sprint as much as it is about the S3 radio. Why the variance? is that normal? Should the radio numbers be dropping by half? Is it one of the problems that I've heard some of the S3's have with weak radios?
I have the vzw s3 and never had any such things happen to me. When I was with t-mobile on my s2 it would do tg is sort of thing all the time. Just randomly go from 4 bars to AT&T service then back to t-mobile at 1 bar.
Dunno what ur problem is though.
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I have had the same issue since I got my first, so Sprint exchanged it. The new phone is the same.
Stock I was showing a steady signal at about -103 a lot of the time, holding the phone at lower left made it worse.
With CM10 and AOKP (JB):
It's not just that the signal shows week but it jumps around too. At home I range from -90 to -220, yet I can always make a call.
Data often shows x1 then roaming then 3g (no LTE here). And as soon as it roams I show 4 bars, but it never stays long enough to measure DB.
I tried most of the other modems and didn't see any great improvement in signal.
With Team Sonic V0.0.7 and LG8 modem (ICS):
Signal is steady holding at -97 at work, which is about 2 miles from tower.
In any configuration if I get close to the tower I can see -75 but it falls of very rapidly.
No lower left effect using the LG8 modem
I looked at my old EVO 4G, it's off Sprint but still reads signal strength at -97 on CM7.2 GB).
It is possible that these anomalies involve Sprint's network, which is under total reconstruction, not just the phones. It would be useful to test both devices with an app such as CDMA Field Test, to determine if they are connecting to the same tower transmitters.
I notice odd things about the signal also. Sometimes it seems like the signal reporting gets "stuck" and the signal level doesn't change again for a while (both dbm reading and signal bars). When it's working normal, I can see the signal go up and down a little in real-time, but when it's "stuck" i can walk all around my house and it never changes. Going into the debug menu and the signal is stuck there too, both 1x and EVDO. Sometimes toggling airplane mode gets it "unstuck". Hopefully i'm not the only one seeing this. I'm updated to LG8.
I have messed with field testers, still learning what all this stuff means. It's always been good for me to have issues with computers, then I get to learn how to fix them, or at least report the errors to the right people.
I will look at towers to see how to identify them. Then compare the phones connections.
I need to learn more about asu; I think higher is better. Many times I have 1asu but now 8asu -97db.
I guess HwID is the tower name.
I show Cdma RSSI -96dBm and -15 Evdo Eclo 15 dB*10
I will play with other phones when I get home.
I don't think we are likely to be getting LTE now, we are more likely to get what ever comes next like we did with 4G. But that would be great so let's hope it clears up one day and I have LTE to boot!
Thanks!
No your not alone, I have been seeing the same strange stuff, I guess there aren't many of us though or it would be on the news. Still there have been very few times I have not been able to use the phone. But it acts like I am in the mountains when I am only miles from the tower, I don't expect it to work well then there really is low signal. But I am half convinced that it's a reporting problem.
Sprint is currently using the 1900 mHz band, Verizon uses 700 and 800 mHz I think. In general, the higher the frequency the worse the building penetration. So, if you get deep into a building with lots of metal and concrete Sprint will definitely fade first. Over the long term their Network upgrades will use the re-purposed Nextel 800 mHz freqs to improve building penetration but for now things kind of suck in big office buildings.
Of course, they may be doing maintenance on the tower near your drs office.
Also, many large buildings will actually add cell phone repeaters but they don't always cover the Sprint 1900 band.
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No, I don't know what that is, but there actually not a "tower name" in CDMA. Rather there is a set of IDs mapped to each sector radio on a tower covering part of the angular pie around it.
Typically there are three sectors per tower, each with its own Base Station. There is a System ID (SID), a Network ID (NID), and a Base Station ID.
Under the Debug menu of the GS3, these IDs are listed on the 1X Engineering Protocol screen. EDIT: Or you can just install the third-party app CDMA Field Test to harvest that data. It also will produce a log of the BSIDs with signal strength, etc.
Sweet, I will play with this all later!
Thanks!
Two cool apps to figure out what tower and SID you are on are Antennas and OpenSignal, both in the Play store for free. Just don't leave them running or they will kill your battery.
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Two cool apps to figure out what tower and SID you are on are Antennas and OpenSignal, both in the Play store for free. Just don't leave them running or they will kill your battery.
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I've never tried Antennas, but I know that Open Signal Maps methodology for plotting tower locations is very flaky. It is based on triangulating very rough crowdsourced data harvested by users with rough estimates of signal strength. Even the developer's website warns about inaccuracy. From the Google Play Store description of Antennas, it is trying something similar. So beware of this imputed mapping voodoo.
Trying to map tower sites from the coordinates that the tower transmitters broadcast is a whole different story, and has its own complexity. It is very accurate for some tower sites, but for some others the squawked coordinates are offset a large distance away per sector. I have always been able to discern my real tower sites precisley from this data, with some analysis and surveying, but only because I have a Rosetta Stone: A map of the actual Sprint towers available at S4GRU.com.
Note that none of these methods will map an LTE tower directly. These are CDMA tools.
Also, I wouldn't install Antennas myself (or some other apps such as Netmonitor) because I don't trust their intrusive permissions, but some folks don't care as much about protecting their privacy as I do.
Open Signal's on-screen reporting of the Base Station IDs themselves, which just come from the Android telephony API, is probably okay. But I can get that from CDMA Field Test, which also has better logging functionality and a safer permissions profile.
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I notice odd things about the signal also. Sometimes it seems like the signal reporting gets "stuck" and the signal level doesn't change again for a while (both dbm reading and signal bars). When it's working normal, I can see the signal go up and down a little in real-time, but when it's "stuck" i can walk all around my house and it never changes. Going into the debug menu and the signal is stuck there too, both 1x and EVDO. Sometimes toggling airplane mode gets it "unstuck". Hopefully i'm not the only one seeing this. I'm updated to LG8.
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After playing around some, I can definitely confirm there is some sort of bug that's causing the signal reading to get "stuck" and stop updating. Just sat here with a -84 dbm signal for a couple hours, never budged. As soon as i toggled airplane mode, the signal dropped down and now I see it fluctuating a little as I move the phone around in my house. Prior to toggling airplane mode, the signal level didn't budge no matter what I did. Can anyone else confirm this exact behavior? I'm running stock LG8 rooted.
I looked at the signal on my old EVO using CDMA Field Test and can confirm that both phones are using the same cell and reporting the same signal strength. If I am reading the EvDo signal data correctly the S3 is pulling a much stronger data signal.
Then I tried to setup my wife's old stock EVO to bring to work and it would FC when you tried to bring up the dialog on CDMA Field test, but the notification part was showing the same signal. Then I checked for updates and low and behold there was one. After the update that phone dropped to -102.
I hope I will still be able to root that EVO after the update, I have plans for it that don't include the stock ROM.
I also looked at information in the debug menu; I could see the same basic signal strength there but I could also observe the effect of holding the phone by it's lower left, a drop of of about 5 db, hold from the top and back up, very repeatable. I have to try one of those foolish stick on antenna boosters to see if it would help carry signal around my hand. In addition to building penetration I wonder is the switch to 800mhz might improve this.
Not to change subjects but so far I'm seeing a huge reduction in coverage from my old Evo 4G to my new SG3. I'm now testing a replacement SG3 and I'm done with Sprint if this reduction holds true.
I was with the Evo and I live in a fringe coverage area I guess and the loss of coverage with the SG3 puts me out of usable phone coverage at work or even on the road. Technical support offered a femtocell (free?) to resolve issues which I declined for now.
Many others finding a reduced coverage?
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Not to change subjects but so far I'm seeing a huge reduction in coverage from my old Evo 4G to my new SG3. I'm now testing a replacement SG3 and I'm done with Sprint if this reduction holds true.
I was with the Evo and I live in a fringe coverage area I guess and the loss of coverage with the SG3 puts me out of usable phone coverage at work or even on the road. Technical support offered a femtocell (free?) to resolve issues which I declined for now.
Many others finding a reduced coverage?
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same problems on femto, seems to have hold solid 3g connection all day today though. Sprint doing massive network overhaul, prolly causing alot of connectivity issues. I have posted numerous threads thinking it was s3 radio, when in reality I believe it to be Sprint. Not 1 loss of connection to Airvana today. The problem for me has only plagued the data connection and not voice.
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feel sorry for you guys who suffer from bad speeds
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ive tried rtn reset
ive tried scrn reset
ive tried data profile resetting
ive tried pulling battery
ive tried adjusting build prop
ive tried calberating signal
ive tried goig back to stock EL's-FI
ive tried updating prl and profile
ive tried wiping cache
ive tried clear data from google FWS
According to this video google has enabled ipv6 for android 4.0 devices, i just dont know forsure if the sgs2 Sprint has support for it. Anyways check out this video it has to also have more valid packets in the traceroutes as well. And here is a link to get you going with sprints IPV6 i guess you have to call them to get it switched over https://www.sprint.net/index.php?p=ipv6 Sprint tec support has no idea what to do with switching im gonna try another tec LOL if you visit that link on your mobile phone you will see it at the top if your on a IPV4 or IPV6 and my phone says IPV4
here is explanation of ipv6 on utube.
http://youtu.be/-Uwjt32NvVA
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Tmobile got this update with there ICS 4.0.4 And i just got off the phone with sprint mobile broad band tec and he said that our phones should be on a IPV6 as well with the ICS update and to call this number 18007267864 if your phone is running on ipv4, its samsungs tec support line and theyre able to resolve the issue, im checking into now........LOL just as i suspected well the only thing we can do is have you ship the phone to us.....bla bla........only or repair center would have those kinds of answers to your questions......no you cant talk to them theyre our secret phone scientists, we dont offer them to the public......LOL...
What's your location?
At home i get 4 bars, which is a beast connection to me nd when i'm at school(Jobcorps) i get 1 bar and i can barely get on facebook
i get 4/5 bars at my location. Ive always had good signal throughout NorthCounty SD until now. IDK if i messed up some deep internel setting or maybe fried my antenna because sprint says theres no network issues in the area so hope i can get some help.
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what ive also noticed is when i get a solid connection on 3g it will run all day and night i just do my little calberating signal dance and the bad is if i switch to wifi and then back to 3g my 3g will start acting the way the logcat logged phone responding in previous post.
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I also live in north county. My signal is never really excellent, but I have horrid 3g speeds in most places. Especially in Esco at my house. But when I was at Palomar my speeds weren't bad. My wife has an evo that seems to load things faster than me.
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that sucks
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Its likely just a network thing. Same this happened last Spring when I was in Austin. They were doing some network updates and 3g was plain garbage for a few months in areas where it was previously good, worse in others. Then all of a sudden it was fine again. Still Sprint though lol
I guess you could try other modems. Have you done this yet.
The bars are no indication of Sprint 3g reception. The bars indicate VOICE reception. You'll need to go to settings and look at the signal strength in dbm in order to check it out.
Also ... Sprints network is almost universally slow (sub 100 kbps) except in low demand areas, areas where there has been band aid fixes (extra T1 lines), and areas where network vision upgrades have been completed (1.5mbps -> 2.0 mbps on average).
As stated, if you're in an area undergoing NV upgrades then 3g and reception can be wonky as they fix up the towers.
I agree, sprint is slow. I don't think its any specific device/radio/rom. Slow is slow. Even if a speed test app says I'm getting blazing fast 3G, I still can't browse fast worth a damn.
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I agree, sprint is slow. I don't think its any specific device/radio/rom. Slow is slow. Even if a speed test app says I'm getting blazing fast 3G, I still can't browse fast worth a damn.
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That's cause of all the iPhone people... they're clogging the network.
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I live in north county. My speeds here aren't great. But using sprints proxies and the fc15 modem I can stream youtube unless I go past rancho penasquitos. Miramar is bad too.
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lol, the iphone invasion. maybe these logcats can help find what can be added to a build.prop code so jumping between wifi and 3g wont kill the 3g data transfers, idk, what i do know is that this has to mean something.
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welcome to sprints crappy network
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welcome to sprints crappy network
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Well that depend on location... Here in Arecibo, PR service is exelent. :beer:
3G up to 2.75Mbps (30.6GB in 22 day)
Reception:
Inside home 2 - 3 bars
Outside 4 - 6 bars most of the time Full
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I found out another way to tinker it and it seems to be working so far ive done it a couple times now. I had it on wifi and then switched to 3g. i couldnt get a horrible signal even. all i did to fix was turn on airplane mode then rebooted phone waited until my phone loaded up and then turned airplane mode back off and now all of a sudden 3g is good. Ive tried this twice and it works im gonna try it maybe 10 more times just to see if thats it. Please if you try post your results as well
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lol. if you have to try that many times your phones either messed up or its sprint.. but your theory doesnt have any hard evidence besides you have airplane mode on and reboot n turn it off.. i can only pull 1x speeds with full bars.. definately cant watch any video and like your name.. No 4g For Me lol
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Well that depend on location... Here in Arecibo, PR service is exelent. :beer:
3G up to 2.75Mbps (30.6GB in 22 day)
Reception:
Inside home 2 - 3 bars
Outside 4 - 6 bars most of the time Full
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PR is a NV market and deployment is going pretty rapidly. LTE is popping up in a lot of places and fiber/micro back haul has dramatically increased 3g speeds. Won't be suprised if they finished upgrading the entire market by early next year.
Anyways...this is what sprints 3g network will look like once they finish the NV upgrades... not the sub 100 kbps connections we get ...
Updated Original Post with some more Info on ipv6 and linked video to googles june 6 2012 open ipv6 deployment and explaination about pastebin links.
Makes me wonder if sprint and samsung are gonna be on the same page, maybe it will show in the Official JB update
thanks again
Omar04 said:
Well that depend on location... Here in Arecibo, PR service is exelent. :beer:
3G up to 2.75Mbps (30.6GB in 22 day)
Reception:
Inside home 2 - 3 bars
Outside 4 - 6 bars most of the time Full
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That is great and what I expected by now for 3g speeds in major USA cities. The best 3g I have seen is about 1.25Mbps
Ive had my issues with this phone also. The questions i had was 1 Sprint? 2 The phones radio 3 rom/kernal/modem. I live in a real good sprint area. i usually run 1-2.5mb down. I do notice that all 3 epic touches ive owned had wacky radios. Signal goes up and down. That is part of problem. Ive had some roms/ kernals that WOULD not have any good speed at all. I was just on a rom and source kernal and Speeds were terrible. At the same same location i flashed back to stock and used kies to update to bone stock fi27 and poof 2mbps down where it was 200k max. Try stock and see. Also the speed test app IS a joke. its awful. Try this test it seems to be very reliable. http://i.dslr.net/tinyspeedtest.html The screen shot below is in my house for some reason i get very low signal but outside its 4/6 bars. Still 1.4 mb down! I blame the ****ty at&t EDGE tower 100 ft from house.
I notice the fi27 modem goes to sleep and has trouble waking up. Not an issue with fh13 which is neck n neck tie for best modem with el29.
i left verizon yesterday and switched over to go gsm but also to save money and get unlimited data back. i got the note 2 and my wife got the gs3. great phones and they work fine except my data speeds are horrid. i live in a superb coverage area to, i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i called tmobile today and they say it sounds tower related as i live right by it. they opened a ticket to have it looked at but im fearing if i wait this out and it doesn't get fixed im stuck, i believe i can return the phones and cancel the contract within 14 days. do you guys think i could have a couple bad sims cards or does this sound tower related? i did port our number over from verizon too. both phones are rooted with the toolkits and unlocked bootloader if that makes a difference.
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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i left verizon yesterday and switched over to go gsm but also to save money and get unlimited data back. i got the note 2 and my wife got the gs3. great phones and they work fine except my data speeds are horrid. i live in a superb coverage area to, i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i called tmobile today and they say it sounds tower related as i live right by it. they opened a ticket to have it looked at but im fearing if i wait this out and it doesn't get fixed im stuck, i believe i can return the phones and cancel the contract within 14 days. do you guys think i could have a couple bad sims cards or does this sound tower related? i did port our number over from verizon too. both phones are rooted with the toolkits and unlocked bootloader if that makes a difference.
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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Goto settings>About Device>Status and post your Signal Strength data. With -83dBm and 15 asu I get a constant 11mb down with speedtest.net.
Where else have you tested your data speeds?
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Goto settings>About Device>Status and post your Signal Strength data. With -83dBm and 15 asu I get a constant 11mb down with speedtest.net.
Where else have you tested your data speeds?
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i have not tested it anywhere else but will tomorrow.
im getting 89 dbm 12 asu on 4g. i cannot even get close to 512 on speedtest.
does it take time for data to provision or something? i know he told me it could take up to 24-48hrs for my number to be ported. but that happened late last night.
Deleted. shinkinrui you were right. Thank god I use titanium backup.
It sounds like a bad tower
-81 dBm 18 asu here
15.06 mbps down 1.71 up
You should go out and see if you get better speeds around where you are. If you go a few miles away and get great speeds then it's the tower for sure
Agree, it could be a bad tower. They were working on a tower near my office, exact same scenario. A week later, works like a charm.
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Not sure. You can try to enter *2767*3855# in the dialer and reprovision. Might have to do it two times to get it to stick. That will force a reprovision.
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This code is the factory data reset code for most Samsung devices. It doesn't have anything to do with provisioning.
my money is on bad tower too. just switched yesterday from sprint. i got the note 2, girlfriend got the s3. our speeds are INSANE compared to sprint
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my money is on bad tower too. just switched yesterday from sprint. i got the note 2, girlfriend got the s3. our speeds are INSANE compared to sprint
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My dead cat can transfer data faster than Sprint...
Drive somewhere else in their HSPA+ coverage area and run the speedtest again to verify.
It's T-mobile, when I get on train station I get constant -53dBm and below 0.05Mbit, Wanna proof ?
Try the app "fresh network" , and look at your speed test app to see that you are on HSDPA, and not umts.
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i get 3-4 bars constant but cannot pull even close to 1 meg down on 4g or edge. this is happening on both phones. :crying:
i need advice as i hate to leave and go to at&t or sprint which is far worse.
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It's the tower. The T-Mobile tower near my house has line of sight and it went down to edge speeds (like .12Mbps down, .002Mbps up) last month. I called them on the 15th and it took them about two weeks to fix it. My speeds are back to normal now, so my advice would be to notify them that the tower is FUBAR, and wait it out. That is of course assuming you get normal speeds other places too, but it would be a moot point if your home has crappy speed. Here's my latest ST:
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Different areas different speeds me and my wife got the same phones and we get average 8mbps down.
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The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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I hope this is true. I'm a new T-mobile customer and have had the spottiest reception in the bay area. I've read this article (http://blog.t-mobile.com/2012/11/20...-metro-areas-just-in-time-for-holiday-travel/) and am crossing my fingers. I'm constantly stuck on EDGE when i'm indoors as well.
Same here, I pop in the TMobile sim and I get 1.5Mbps and .3 up. Pop in ATT and I get 6Mbps and 1.2 up. So it's not the phone. I'll try different areas. So far I'm not impressed with their Customer Service and Data. I was happier on GoPhone.
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The cause of slow speed might be the fact that T-mobile is restructuring their 1900 band on certain towers. Here in California, I happen to live in an area where they are restructuring the cell tower I am using, so I get download speed of 0.01mbps to 0.15mbps. However, as soon as i walked out of the range of that particular tower, my download speed goes up to 12mbps to 15mbps.
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yeah that's what was causing it as i called tech support. the issue was resolved within 24hrs. i have decent speeds again now.
I had a similar issue when I first bought my note 2 on release day. Was getting on average about .22 down speed and the up speeds where so slow the speedtest app could never finish running it. Called tmobile and they opened a ticket and got it working within the week. Now I get anywhere from 14-16 down at home and roughly 3 up. Guve it some time if they say they are working on it its just a matter of time.
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yeah that's what was causing it as i called tech support. the issue was resolved within 24hrs. i have decent speeds again now.
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Glad to hear your problem is fixed. I've found T-Mobile to be iffy sometimes. But 99% of the time my phone has very acceptable data speeds.