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[Q]Anyone upgrade from the hd2? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

I am on my 3rd hd2 due to previous BS.
I have not seen any other phone even catch my attention. My HD2 is a beast, but I know the Galaxy SII does have faster download speeds.
So, anyone make the switch?

I made the switch as well. I originally got the HD2 because I was tired of the iPhone 4 not having 3G service on T-Mobile.
It's a night and day difference between the phones in terms of download speed. I got max 4-6mbps down with the HD2, but I get 10-16mbps down with the S II. Also, you'll find the picture quality of both the screen and camera are better on the S II

I made the switch as well. It has been a hard decision but the phone is starting to grow on me. I became very well versed with the HD2 and it's nuances. I started with Cookies Home Tab mods on Winmo 6.5 to learning how to mount and unmount APKs and scripting with 2.3.7. The HD2 was my journey into Android modding. Funny enough, My first smart phone was a G1 but at that time I wasn't into and didn't know what I could do with android. Coming from Symbian, I was like, hey, it just works.
As time passed though, I was promoted to be in the field as an I.T. consultant. The HD2 became more of a functional necessity rather than just a cool phone I could mess with from time to time. With that said, things just had to work... and at times, had to work fast and also multi-task better. The HD2 started to feel its age. I needed a phone that was an all out improvement over the HD2 so I wouldn't look back.
Unlocked boot-loader, larger screen with higher resolution and brightness, faster processor, faster data speeds (and even better signal attenuation), lack of hard buttons (wear and tear), lighter phone (higher chance of surviving a drop) and just all around newer technology. And the best thing for me was MORE AVAILABLE RAM
I was happy I made the choice. With a good ROM with the sgs2, it's simply graceful. With the increased RAM and performance, I can do everything a lot easier. I still have my HD2 in pretty decent condition running ICS but it's just for kicks. The Tmous version of the Galaxy S2 is very young so with that you won't get nearly as much legacy knowledge or development as you do from the HD2 subforums. I'd say give it time but with the available ROMS, they have this phone very solid.
It's an all around better phone in every aspect. Even the audio is better and louder. The ONLY thing I miss is a notification LED but I'm learning to live without. HD2 owners should already know the LED notification issues we've had with previous ROMS as it is.
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A few things you'd have to get use to in the change. The phone (without a cover) will fit anything that you used to hold your HD2 in granted the HD2 had a cover. BUT if you decide to get a back over for the phone, you'll need something else to hold it in because it's larger as it wider and longer. The audio plug port is now on top instead of the bottom so if you had a car setup, you might have to move things around a little. The charger is a micro-usb port and it's almost in the same location as the HD2. The power button is on the top right side of the phone so that will take a little getting used to. It does have a 2MP front facing camera so that's another bonus. Without a cover the phone is still easy to hold and doesn't feel like it might slide out of your hand. It's quite light for it's size and thin. The buttons on the phone are capacitive with the exception of the volume rocker (on the upper left of the phone) and the power button. The speaker is on the bottom left of the rear of the phone but it's quite loud. 1 LED flash as opposed to 2 with the HD2 but still seems to put out the same amount of lumens. The camera is more recessed than the HD2 and is flush with the phone body so no more scratched camera frame. The SD card IS hot swappable so no need to remove the battery. The plastic back cover is very thin so take care in taking it off and on (no brushed aluminum like the HD2). It's a lot but that's pretty much all I can think of for now. Hope this helps.

Great info. . . Same with me, the HD2 is the first true Android phone I started Modding(I still have my g1. But face it, there was no competition for the iPhone for along time). Before, I was a total iPhone man. I turned my iPhone into what it should have been as I did with my HD2.
My HD2 is a extremely solid performer. It is running at about 98% functionality, LED works just fine as does everything else unlike most earlier android flashed HD2's.
Sounds like I will be making the switch as soon as I come across a worthy deal.
Just tough for me to move from a device that treated me so well.

I had an hd2 before this, and still use the hd2 for experimentation and goofing around. (Playing with ICS on it right now.) I loved the hd2, there wasn't a single phone you could do more with.
This phone, however, is amazing. I love this thing. Just don't expect so many roms to choose from. You'll love the upgrade, it's definitely the smoothest phone I've used to date.

I had it pretty cool not all that
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Now to find one for a good deal. I'm also thinking the white one is the way to go.

Development here compared to the hd2 is night and day if u messed with the hd2 a lot as I did u probably will find ur self bored here just a heads up.... hd2 and vibrant days I could flash rom's daily here I've been on the same one for over a month. The Roms are quality tho just not that many.
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I recently dropped my HD2 & spiderwebbed the screen. Oddly enough, it still actually functions perfectly, but it's hard to view the screen and it has sharp edges on the screen itself. I'll be keeping it as a backup MP3 player/portable HD, camera, etc.
Since there is no real equivalent on TMobile, I went with the T989. Performance and capabilities are big improvements, 1080P video, dual core, 4G, etc. Hardware is really far beyond the HD2, but it's been a bit frustrating learning Android, and trying to replicate how perfectly customized for my wants/needs I had my HD2. I'm getting there, though, and I'm getting more and more confident I'll get this new phone dialed in as well or better than the HD2.

I switched from hd2 to the sensation and that didn't last long. Now I'm with this beauty.
Hd2 is still a beast though and now my son uses it.
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The_Biz said:
I switched from hd2 to the sensation and that didn't last long. Now I'm with this beauty.
Hd2 is still a beast though and now my son uses it.
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same exact here also , i just miss the development with both those phones,hd2 was my favorite of all time ,could just do so much with that bad boy ,galaxy s2 is amazing its just ashame we have to sit here and read 15 year old kids cursing each other out all day every day

As far as customization goes. I work until it's damn near perfect.
I run SPB with a Nexus ROM on my HD2. I swapped out the MMS APK and a few others. It runs a bit overclocked just fine too. Kinda funny though, if I juice it to the Max. I keep up with a Sprint Evo just fine
Also does the current widget work on the GS2? Since it never worked on the turd pile Vibrant I tried to replace my HD2 with?

No current widget doesn't work. Not on any samsung phones that I'm aware of.

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No current widget doesn't work. Not on any samsung phones that I'm aware of.
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Damn, I love that damn thing. LoL

I had an HD2 all rooted and moded and then the SG2 came out and I sold it. It was an awsome phone and I loved it even more when I had android on it. Windows blows on that phone lol.

I had pretty bad experiance with hd2 . Then i move to blackberry 9780 and now on this one.
Problem on hd2 was hardware issue so nothing to do with OS. I simply hate htc hardware.
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I had the euro version for 6mo the tmo since June '10.
Absolutely adored the device. Countless hours of winnow, then android flashing entertainment.
I bought the sg2 just to mess, expecting to return it, but the speed, elegance, enhancemence and speed won me over.
Sold my hd2 for just about what I paid.
I believe I'll be quite happy.

+1 It's quite shameful actually.
tigerz0202 said:
same exact here also , i just miss the development with both those phones,hd2 was my favorite of all time ,could just do so much with that bad boy ,galaxy s2 is amazing its just ashame we have to sit here and read 15 year old kids cursing each other out all day every day
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Just be patient. Remember how long it took to get an sd build of android to boot on it? Or the fact that it took cotulla and the guys over a year to get magldr so we could boot them off nand? Plus the advantage there was now the hd2 has 100% aosp base, so it's very easy to work with, hence all the roms. Plus, they can port from either the htc desire or the nexus one with very few changes, because the hardware is almost identical. The only phone with very very similar hardware for us is the skyrocket. Once we get cm, (and we will), we'll have an aosp base to work off of.
Ignore the kids, be patient, wait a few weeks, and we'll see what rolls in. This phone has barely been out 2 months... 2 months after the hd2 was released I hspl was barely started, let alone working.

tigerz0202 said:
same exact here also , i just miss the development with both those phones,hd2 was my favorite of all time ,could just do so much with that bad boy ,galaxy s2 is amazing its just ashame we have to sit here and read 15 year old kids cursing each other out all day every day
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I physically clapped when I read this. I've been on a lot of sub-forums here at XDA but I've never seen the behavior that I see here. People here are overly sensitive, impatient, belligerent and down right rude and immature. I always had a great amount of respect for the members and developers so I'm a little taken back with the behavior here. I guess any HD2 to prospect SGS2 buyers should take note to that.

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Ok, so I've been talking to TONS of people about which phone I should upgrade to. My HD2 friends are vouching for the HD2, but the G2 people say that the HD2's battery life is **** (this was pre-Nand). Which of the 2 phones do you think I should look into upgrading to?
I'm hoping to have a phone that has a big developer base so the phone is always supported (unlike the Mytouch Slide, which was supported for 2 months until the G2 came out.)
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well you're posting in the G2 forum so I bet most people are gonna say G2 (hopefully)
and cyanogen owns a G2 himself, so the phone should be heavily supported for a good while...
I personally went with the G2 and am lovin it

I have both.
Why do I have both? Because the G2 really attracted me as it reminded me of my old TP2.
Would I buy it again? No.
The keyboard is stiff.
The screen is small.
The CPU is unimpressive.
I get less battery life with it, than my HD2 with Android.
The hinge is just stupid.
The flash is weak.
The camera seems lower quality in side by side comparisons.
Go with the HD2.

arthurbrownleeiv said:
I have both.
Why do I have both? Because the G2 really attracted me as it reminded me of my old TP2.
Would I buy it again? No.
The keyboard is stiff.
The screen is small.
The CPU is unimpressive.
I get less battery life with it, than my HD2 with Android.
The hinge is just stupid.
The flash is weak.
The camera seems lower quality in side by side comparisons.
Go with the HD2.
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Ok, see, this is helpful. The HD2 has 720p right? Isn't that better than the G2's camera already? Also, do you think that the HD2 will be as supported as it is now in 10 months?
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GoCkillaz said:
Ok, see, this is helpful. The HD2 has 720p right? Isn't that better than the G2's camera already? Also, do you think that the HD2 will be as supported as it is now in 10 months?
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Actually, I haven't updated my Froyo build in awhile, so I don't know if the 720p is working yet or not for video recording. I do know the sound is a bit better on the video with the HD2, but I never compared the video quality between the two.
When I mentioned the camera, I meant still shots. I've been able to do some HDR shots even with the HD2.
Another thing, I am getting about 5-7mw of drain on an SD card build, and I hear the NAND builds are down to 2-3mw of drain. With my normal battery, a day of medium to heavy use isn't a problem. However, I also have the HTC extended battery and go about 2 days without a charge with no issue
I don't know if they will make an extended battery for the G2, but the way the battery door is made, it would be hard to do.
That's another thing, I don't like the MicroSD being in a weird little "cage" under the battery. So much for swapping in cards while the phone is on.

One thing I forgot...
The screen size on the HD2 will completely spoil you to the point that no smaller screen will ever "do" for you. Be it just reading on the screen, or typing on it with two thumbs in landscape. It's just perfect.

arthurbrownleeiv said:
One thing I forgot...
The screen size on the HD2 will completely spoil you to the point that no smaller screen will ever "do" for you. Be it just reading on the screen, or typing on it with two thumbs in landscape. It's just perfect.
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Ok perfect, I'm glad I posted here. You've been immensely helpful. The screen is actually the best for any Android phone to date, yes? My HD2 friends are raving about it.
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GoCkillaz said:
Ok perfect, I'm glad I posted here. You've been immensely helpful. The screen is actually the best for any Android phone to date, yes? My HD2 friends are raving about it.
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The color is nothing like an AMOLED screen, but it is brighter and crisper than most other LCD's out there.
It's the same screen the EVO and the Desire HD have, and both of those get pretty high praise
It certainly is higher brightness and color than the one they put on it's retarded twin brother the HD7
Glad I could be of some help. The G2 certainly does get higher bandwidth speeds in the "4G" areas, but I've never felt the HD2 was "slow" on the network either.
Plus another annoyance? The trackpad on the G2 randomly "wakes up" and moves when I'm typing. I'd rather that space was used for screen.

arthurbrownleeiv said:
The color is nothing like an AMOLED screen, but it is brighter and crisper than most other LCD's out there.
It's the same screen the EVO and the Desire HD have, and both of those get pretty high praise
It certainly is higher brightness and color than the one they put on it's retarded twin brother the HD7
Glad I could be of some help. The G2 certainly does get higher bandwidth speeds in the "4G" areas, but I've never felt the HD2 was "slow" on the network either.
Plus another annoyance? The trackpad on the G2 randomly "wakes up" and moves when I'm typing. I'd rather that space was used for screen.
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The only things that really attracted me to the G2 were the hardware keyboard and the 4G network. But I live like an hour away from Los Angeles, so I doubt that I'll be getting any 4G coverage anytime soon. I'm guessing by 2012.
Also, I've been hearing some wonky things about the trackpad on the G2, apparently there's a proximity sensor inside that responds to shadows and movement.
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GoCkillaz said:
The only things that really attracted me to the G2 were the hardware keyboard and the 4G network. But I live like an hour away from Los Angeles, so I doubt that I'll be getting any 4G coverage anytime soon. I'm guessing by 2012.
Also, I've been hearing some wonky things about the trackpad on the G2, apparently there's a proximity sensor inside that responds to shadows and movement.
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The keyboard isn't worth it.
I came from the Motorola Q9h, to the Tilt, to the Touch Pro, to the Touch Pro 2... So I was a diehard keyboard man... Then I owned the HD2 since release day.
Now after owning the G2 for a few months? I honestly can say, that as long as I have my HD2, I won't be wanting a physical keyboard.
The 4G honestly is the only reason I could see getting the phone, so since that isn't an issue for you, head on over to the HD2 section and find whatever ROM suits your fancy the most

arthurbrownleeiv said:
The keyboard isn't worth it.
I came from the Motorola Q9h, to the Tilt, to the Touch Pro, to the Touch Pro 2... So I was a diehard keyboard man... Then I owned the HD2 since release day.
Now after owning the G2 for a few months? I honestly can say, that as long as I have my HD2, I won't be wanting a physical keyboard.
The 4G honestly is the only reason I could see getting the phone, so since that isn't an issue for you, head on over to the HD2 section and find whatever ROM suits your fancy the most
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I went from a ****ty Nokia flip phone to a BB to another BB to the Mytouch3G to the MTSlide. I regretted ever going over to the MyTouch3G because the soft keyboard was laggy as hell (even when I used Swype). I guess that I'm just overly cautious about having yet another laggy phone.
Also, I've been lurking in the HD2 dev forum for a while now. I've just been to afraid to post anything. Lol.
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GoCkillaz said:
I went from a ****ty Nokia flip phone to a BB to another BB to the Mytouch3G to the MTSlide. I regretted ever going over to the MyTouch3G because the soft keyboard was laggy as hell (even when I used Swype). I guess that I'm just overly cautious about having yet another laggy phone.
Also, I've been lurking in the HD2 dev forum for a while now. I've just been to afraid to post anything. Lol.
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Never had any lag with SmartKeyboard Pro or whatever it is I'm using. I personally find it the best for landscape typing on the HD2 with my massive fingers.

arthurbrownleeiv said:
Never had any lag with SmartKeyboard Pro or whatever it is I'm using. I personally find it the best for landscape typing on the HD2 with my massive fingers.
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Haha I feel ya.
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If you like the HD2, then surely the Desire HD is the more obvious upgrade option ? Big screen like the HD2, and a much faster processor than the HD2 (newer generation, don't just compare the clock speeds !).
Personally I love the Vision's hardware keyboard, because I don't lose a big chunk of my screen to an on-screen keyboard. But we all like different things, and it would be a very boring world if every single one of us liked the same phone best !

steviewevie said:
If you like the HD2, then surely the Desire HD is the more obvious upgrade option ? Big screen like the HD2, and a much faster processor than the HD2 (newer generation, don't just compare the clock speeds !).
Personally I love the Vision's hardware keyboard, because I don't lose a big chunk of my screen to an on-screen keyboard. But we all like different things, and it would be a very boring world if every single one of us liked the same phone best !
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Much faster? It's not even a full revision different than the original Snapdragon. I haven't seen that it is "much" faster in anything. A bit faster? Yep.
Worth the doubling in price to get? Hardly.
Not to mention, it sounds like the OP is using the T-Mobile network, the DHD won't have 3G on that.

arthurbrownleeiv said:
Much faster? It's not even a full revision different than the original Snapdragon. I haven't seen that it is "much" faster in anything. A bit faster? Yep.
Worth the doubling in price to get? Hardly.
Not to mention, it sounds like the OP is using the T-Mobile network, the DHD won't have 3G on that.
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Yes, but the second gen snapdragons eat the competition. It'd be safe to say the G2 is one of the best options if your into the hardware

I just put my HD2 aside for a G2. Suffice to say the HD2 is getting alot of shelf time now The ironic thing is I got tired of waiting for NAND-flashable Android builds for the HD2 and running it off a slow SD card and so the day after I paid full retail for my G2 - I see Cotulla and crew have released MAGLDR(sp?). ROFL
I flashed an MDJ Gingerbread NAND build, ran it on the HD2 for about an hour, then pulled the SIM and put it back in my G2. It's hard to explain, the HD2 is phenomenal but the G2 is an actual Android device so it just feels more comfortable to me running Android builds

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I just put my HD2 aside for a G2. Suffice to say the HD2 is getting alot of shelf time now The ironic thing is I got tired of waiting for NAND-flashable Android builds for the HD2 and running it off a slow SD card and so the day after I paid full retail for my G2 - I see Cotulla and crew have released MAGLDR(sp?). ROFL
I flashed an MDJ Gingerbread NAND build, ran it on the HD2 for about an hour, then pulled the SIM and put it back in my G2. It's hard to explain, the HD2 is phenomenal but the G2 is an actual Android device so it just feels more comfortable to me running Android builds
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This is the exact reason I switched from my HD2 to a G2. As well as being able to have a physical keyboard that did not take up half of the screen.
I am not a huge fan of Windows mobile and although there are different builds and roms for the HD2, none of them made me happy. I love Android and having an actual keyboard, so the best option for me was the G2.
Plus my HD2 lagged a lot.

Had an HD2 before the G2, dont regret ever selling it, I am happier with the G2 then I ever was with the HD2.

arthurbrownleeiv said:
I have both.
Why do I have both? Because the G2 really attracted me as it reminded me of my old TP2.
Would I buy it again? No.
The keyboard is stiff.
The screen is small.
The CPU is unimpressive.
I get less battery life with it, than my HD2 with Android.
The hinge is just stupid.
The flash is weak.
The camera seems lower quality in side by side comparisons.
Go with the HD2.
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Are you currently using T-Mobile with your HD2? I have a HD2 and a G2, my dad is using the HD2 and loves it since its a big screen and all. The only problem he says he's having is that the reception is worse since I put Android on it. Do you have any similar problem? Or did I do something wrong when I put Android up on it?

ok ive never liked samsung phones before till i got to play with this beast in the tmo store the other day ,ive already orderded mine and will be getting it in a few days.ive always i guess you could call it "hating" on samsung because i thought their build quality was poor and they tried to be too much like iphone. Well that was then and this is now.The sgs2 won me over instantly when i started playing with it and i even forgot i was looking at a screen with a lower resolution than my sensation because it was so clear and bright. i cant wait to root this thing and install custom roms .ive heard that samsung phones have data issues and reception issues. that didnt seem to be a problem with the demo i got to mess with .any info will be appreciated

that was only with the vibrant, so far that i know! My new sgs2 is fine with all that

I can't wait for root either. Coming from sensation, which is a big phone, this feels humongous. I am sure using different launcher we can utilize the screen size with 5x5 . Love it so far.
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yeah it looks massive. i had an HD2 which also was a little bigger than my sensation screen .i guess i just missed a big ol' screen to look at.I played som HD videos on both phones right next to each other and i really could not tell a difference aside from the samsung looked a little brighter. The camera on my sensation was probably a little better but i had the Amaze camera on it and its pretty good, but the camera on the S2 looked great as well so no loss there.Phone was snappy as hell and for people who judge by quadrants i was getting over 3300 on the Demo ,any how thanks for the replies

Like many people I've been eyeing the SGSII since last winter. I wanted it more than the Sensation. It just took the phone too long to drop here. I used a family upgrade on the Sensation in June and fell in love with it. The Sensation ruined me for this phone. I checked out the SGSII today and the 800 x 480 screen is a no-go for me. It's a personal thing for me as I like very tiny text on the screen and it is much easier to read on my Sensation. Plus there is a ton of ROM development for the Sensation. That and I'm perversely attracted to the feel on the Sensation.
The next family upgrade might still be with Sammy though as I'll be eyeing the Prime and even more resolution.
Other than that the SGSII is a beast internally. TouchWiz is lame IMHO but ROMs should fix that problem soon enough. I do like the phone a lot and don't want to say the Sensation is better, I just like it better. I had the wife try out the SGSII to see if she wanted one, but she just aggravated me. I tried to explain to her what a beast of a phone it is, but it was lost on her non-technical mind. That and she knew if she got it, I would be f'ing with it all the time.
Alas Sammy you guys took too long (probably US carrier's fault) and released this badboy here right before you drop the Prime? The delay cost you possible HTC converts (like me) and maybe Sammy fans with the Prime so close.
Is it just me thinking that way?
Sorry if I sound negative against the SGSII, the phone rocks so that's not my intent.

I can't stand vanilla android or small text, so no.

no offense here. main reason i got rid of my sensation is the damn dust under the screen issue . i dont know if i just hit a homerun in the bad luck dept. or what but i sent the phone back 4 times and the last return they sent me had the problem worse than any that i had. It didnt bother me at first but i just couldnt see paying that much for a phone with a repetitive defect so i decided to give samsung a try

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no offense here. main reason i got rid of my sensation is the damn dust under the screen issue . i dont know if i just hit a homerun in the bad luck dept. or what but i sent the phone back 4 times and the last return they sent me had the problem worse than any that i had. It didnt bother me at first but i just couldnt see paying that much for a phone with a repetitive defect so i decided to give samsung a try
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I've gone through about 6 of them because of the same issue. The last one I got finally doesn't have any dust but the wifi keeps dropping no matter what rom I use
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Just out of curiosity. Has there ever been reports from older samsung phones that had dust in the screen issues?
I have a plug that I use for my aux 3.5mm but if I don't have to use it, then I rather not.

I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else samsung or LG has to offer. But I will have to say, S2 is def a great pick. I got mine 2 hours ago and I was playing with it at work. Managed to do this -
now obviously its not rooted or overclocked. But getting a 3800 on quadrant on a snapdragon chip is pretty cool.
Thought i'd share it with people who are trying to make a choice between amaze and s2 like I was

Jjday7 said:
Just out of curiosity. Has there ever been reports from older samsung phones that had dust in the screen issues?
I have a plug that I use for my aux 3.5mm but if I don't have to use it, then I rather not.
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very very few compared to HTC
i have old HTC phones, and yes i do have lots of dust underneath the screen.
but in my case it's probably due the fact the phone shell cracked after too many falls
reason why plastic works better in that kind of scenario, at least it doesn't crack open like the aluminum body

Also, Samsung fuses their screens to the digitizer so there is no space for dust to get trapped in. That's also the reason why their screen seem so bright
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Very good to know and hear, Thanks guys.

I cant wait to get home and get mine. i work offshore so i wont be able to mess with it until the 26th when i get home. Dont get me wrong i liked my sensation and with custom roms and over clock i achieved over 3000 on quadrants with a sense rom, but that was over clocked at 1.78ghz and honestly it just isnt safe. seems this phone has that speed and more already stock cant wait to see where development goes for it. And honestly the stock sensation Rom was crap and it seemed like they just crammed it in the phone without any testing

Yeah I had a sensation and eventually got over it. I am not a big overclocked/root/mod person but I'd hand it to samsung for making snapdragon s3 somewhat capable in front of tegra, omap and exynos.

hiko007 said:
I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else
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It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.

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It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.
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Yeah man, so far I am very happy with my S2 I have been able to play 1080p video in the browser w/o lag/crash. And I am getting 15 Mbits down in Northern Virginia, so I am satisfied in that department aswell. I do miss the HTC Sense, but oh well.

digiholic said:
It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.
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yea i hear that for me NRGZ28 had the best roms for sensation and best looking . id love for him to come over here and start cooking for this phone once it gets going

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I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else samsung or LG has to offer. But I will have to say, S2 is def a great pick. I got mine 2 hours ago and I was playing with it at work. Managed to do this -
now obviously its not rooted or overclocked. But getting a 3800 on quadrant on a snapdragon chip is pretty cool.
Thought i'd share it with people who are trying to make a choice between amaze and s2 like I was
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Awesome This is excellent.............

SGS2 vs Sensation
Hey tmobile brahs!
I've had my Vibrant for a good year and a half now, and have been long waiting an awesome 4g phone. For the most part, I've simply been waiting on the SG2, but only recently found out that we had another solid option, the Sensation.
I'm currently reading up reviews on both, but i figured I might as well ask you guys, since most of you I'm assuming already have the phone, and had made the decision over the Sensation for a reason/s.
According to my friend, they're both nearly identical, except the GS2 having a slightly better screen. My only worry with the GS2 is, coming from the Vibrant, Samsung not releasing drivers and all that stuff, making GPS for example damn near impossible to perfect with the latest roms (post froyo). Never had an HTC so can't speak on them as a brand.
Thanks guys!

Curious the opinion of real owners of a Galaxy-Nexus, are you happy with your purchase ? Is it your favorite Android phone of all time ? I know only the European owners can tell me about the phone, which is slightly different than the CDMA version coming to the U.S., but overall do you like the new Nexus ?
I am looking to possibly leave the U.S. carrier Sprint, I have their Galaxy S 2, rooted with nice ROM, LOVE this phone, but hate Sprint service. Last few Sprint phones my Wife and Brother have as well, the worst network this year, 3G speeds in Chicago are like 1x Edge speeds at best, texting and receiving pictures is a pain, half don't go through, dropped calls have been happening more often the last couple of months.
So I might make the switch to Verizon, everyone I know with Verizon service swear by it as being rock solid, #1 call service, no dropped calls, very solid network. I use my phone a lot for business, and need a network that is faster and more stable.
And I am a huge Android fan, owned both the Nexus-One and Nexus-S 4G, and those were my favorite Android phones at the time I owned those. But Sprint is killing me.

It's a very solid device! You won't be disappointed!

Yes.
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I have had my SGN for a few days now. I got it from Expansys, who provided extremely good service in getting it to me! I am still learning how to use Android (this is my first android so it is slow learning ).
But the large, bright screen, ability to enlarge text (so my weak eyes can read it), ease of use, is a winner for me. So far, I have not run into any problems, so I am real pleased!

Extremely happy! I've been on android since getting the G1 on day one. This is by far the best device I've ever owned. You can look at all the youtube videos and reviews you want but once you get the phone in your hands you'll be blown away!

Love the device.
Hard to know whether it's ICS or the phone itself which stands out. ICS was very good on the Nexus S, but only really played with it as an SDK port. Hopefully will have chance to play with my old S when it officially gets ICS.
The screen (despite the weirdness on low brightness) is stunning, the OS is incredibly smooth and slick - it impresses me MUCH more than iOS which I've always loved for it's transitions and smoothness. Web browsing is also excellent - incredibly fast. Call and Audio quality are also excellent
The only drawback is that it's a little on the large side (sometimes hard to grab the notification bar with one hand)
I've come from the Nexus S, I'm not sure a GSII (once it gets ICS) would be much of a noticeable/fantastic upgrade though. Maybe more a sidegrade - although the shape of the GN, lack of hard/soft buttons & Screen curve do make it look massively pretty. It's also MUCH less common than the GSII & comes with pure Android - definitely a plus!
You won't be unhappy upgrading from a 2.3.x GS2 but as soon as the ICS official or custom ROM's hit it may well be a closer call!

Have had my GN for 9 days now and loving it. I have no regrets on buying it and highly enjoy both the hardware and vanilla android.
I do see what people say if the screen brightness is really low its doesn't look that great but I typically keep my screen set at 50% so its not a issue for me.
If I had to really point out a single thing that is probably the biggest drawback is the damn speaker is so quiet its basically useless unless your in a quiet environment. Driving down the highway with the music on quietly (drive a 08' bmw and its quiet inside) theres only a couple ringtones that are barely audible. My iphone speaker was loud enough to hear in all but the loudest places.

galaxy nexus
Love the screen love the size, the Chrome type browser is fantastic, however there are issues, why would you launch a new phone with no manual.Customer care at Samsung are unaware of the model of phone. The bug volume bug is now fixed but there is no flash which is ridicolous one of the primary reasons you chose android. Also the phone dialler ui is crap its all over the place and its complicated just for the sake if it.. Iam used to htc phones and in my opinion the tweak to the original ui is just the most simplistic thing to use..

I LOVE it! Especially when you can go to Wal Mart and get on a T-Mobile $30/m prepaid plan that gives you unlimited data and texts and 100 minutes with no contract, you'll end up breaking even in no time from Sprint.

It's not perfect but it's a fantastic device. Easily the best I've ever owned. Very happy with it.
I only wish they included gorilla glass. People can laugh at gorilla glass all they want but the fact for me is, my nexus already has 3 scratches on it. While my 1.5 y/o vibrant still looks brand spanking new.

Some who are coming from a GSII are disappointed. But that's really a lateral move, so otherwise, quite fantastic!
Very zippy. A great improvement over my N1 in terms of speed and function. Though I will miss the illuminated LED trackball.

What about voice/call quality!?
For example - huge improvement with a Razr over my ole' Droid Incredible.
What about the GNex?

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What about voice/call quality!?
For example - huge improvement with a Razr over my ole' Droid Incredible.
What about the GNex?
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my experience i find it better than the nexus s...

I had a galaxy s II and I enjoy the nexus more..
The Galaxy Nexus feels a lot better in the hand.. and I love the display and I particularly enjoy the lack of capacitive buttons on the front. Just staring at a 4.65" monolithic display with nothing to break up the sleek look.
Ice Cream Sandwich is really what brings it all together for me, though.. it's such a huge improvement over gingerbread.. it's hard for me to use the gmail app on gingerbread now..
This is easily the best android device I've ever owned.. even though the Galaxy S II has better specs, this device feels like it is in another league to me.

How are the network/wifi speeds? Is it 4G capable? Still trying to choose between this and the LG Optimus LTE.

I am really considering getting a Nexus to upgrade from my HTC Desire but I'm not sure if I should wait for a mobile phone with better hardware specifications (e.g. Quad-core processors) to be released if that is the case very soon or if I should just go with the Nexus.
I think it would be a big upgrade from my awesome Desire. The idea of a stock Android Google/Samsung phone makes things very exciting, as well. The only thing holding me back are the reviews going on about how the Nexus is the best Android phone on the market but isn't good enough to be a flagship phone because of it's hardware but it appears to be a wonderful device.
Did anyone here that owns a GSN come from a phone like the HTC Desire at all? I am trying to figure out this years Christmas gift to myself, you see!
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lathanub said:
I am really considering getting a Nexus to upgrade from my HTC Desire but I'm not sure if I should wait for a mobile phone with better hardware specifications (e.g. Quad-core processors) to be released if that is the case very soon or if I should just go with the Nexus.
I think it would be a big upgrade from my awesome Desire. The idea of a stock Android Google/Samsung phone makes things very exciting, as well. The only thing holding me back are the reviews going on about how the Nexus is the best Android phone on the market but isn't good enough to be a flagship phone because of it's hardware but it appears to be a wonderful device.
Did anyone here that owns a GSN come from a phone like the HTC Desire at all? I am trying to figure out this years Christmas gift to myself, you see!
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UPGRADE I had an Inspire (a model up i think) and this phone is a HUGE upgrade! besides there wont be another nexus device for a good while yet so you will have less development options on them.

overall yes.
I'm looking forward to a lot of apps being updated to function on ics.
I don't get the same speeds as I was pulling on my skyrocket, but I would never know if I didn't run speedtest. My google music and everything else runs fast and smooth.

no regrets...

I'm very happy. The only bad thing abt the phone. It's written Samsung at the back...
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Temporarily using a Blackberry 9650 while I decide which phone I want to buy. Had the EVO LTE for a few weeks last month and I enjoyed it, but did notice a couple of glaring performance issues mainly when heavily multi-tasking. I'm going to walk into the Sprint store today and have some hands-on with the GS3 to see if I can replicate these kinds of problems on it also (seeing as they run the same SoC).
So what made you pick one over the other? The main reason I'm leaning toward the GS3 now is because of the 2gb of RAM, which makes it seem a little more future proof. The EVO LTE looks and feels better, and also has a better camera (although I really don't like HTC's camera software). The screens are both great. Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues. The EVO LTE was great in this department, and historically this hasn't been Samsung's strongpoint, so if anyone who has the phone and would like to chime in please feel free!
Sorry if this gets asked a lot, and I know that "just try them both and pick whichever you prefer" seems best for most, but I'm the type of person that also likes to get opinions from other techies, just in case there's something I'm overlooking

I heard the EVO has a "reboot problem" in the OS, causing it to randomly reboot often. As far as hardware goes, the EVO might just have the upper hand (I'm speaking mostly due to camera).

What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.

I personally just think I've seen it all with sense, one of my major reasons was that I had a galaxy note before the evo lte and I got use to the feeling of big phones, I found the evo to be a bit too narrow, the s3 is slightly wider. Also multi tasking was kinda horrible on the evo lte. With that being said I didn't root the evo because I had the intention of returning it for the s3 from day one, so maybe i would've enjoyed it more if it was rooted
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2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
Another thing that really worries me about the GS3 is radio/GPS issues
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I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).

The Root said:
What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Well the HTC One X camera uses a BSI sensor and f/2.0 lens. What it translates to in real-world usage is anyone's guess, but on paper the camera is supposed to be better.
punzada said:
2GB RAM, removable battery, removable/additional storage through MicroSD (up to 64GB).
I can't speak for everyone but here on Long Island those issues haven't existed or manifested themselves. Cell radio is fine, 3G coverage is the same as not better then my previous phone (Original Galaxy, Epic 4G) and GPS has been super quick to lock (after the hassle that was the Epic in terms of GPS it's like night and day, and I use GPS for my work every day at least 3 times a day).
Also I haven't played enough with the new Sense but the new version of Touchwiz overall is full of good customization and doesn't seem to be too annoying (out of the box it can be, but you can adjust most of it away).
Overall it's hard to find too much fault, some people find issues with AMOLED screens, and while the 'haze' was noticeable on my Epic up close, the GS3 has such a high PPI that I don't notice it.
Few things that turned me off of the EVO LTE: No removable storage, No swappable battery (GS3 does actually get very good battery life but I'm a power-user by habit and always like to have a quick-swap spare available) and that EpicCM team wasn't a part of the community (I'm sure the EVO has wonderful dev's as well, a buddy of mine does dev for it with the at&t version, but after following the CM7->CM9 progress on the Epic, as well as all the rest of the Sprint/Samsung dev community, I'm happy to stick with it).
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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).

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The EVO LTE also has a MicroSD slot , but you're right, now removable battery. Although personally that was never really a negative since it was ample size (2000mah).
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Oh, apparently I was wrong about that, is it the one x that doesn't? maybe I'm going crazy

The only thing that I can say that I didn't like about the evo was: the non removable battery, lack of multitasking. But I do miss the screen and that awesome camera button.
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I had the evo lte and loved it but the only thing tgat annoyed me was the weak antenna it woukd always drop dignal and also the evo lte has better cam than sg3 and also evo lte feels more sturdy the sg3 is a goid phone also pretty fast and good multy tasking i dont mind the non removable vattery on evo lte but both great phones also negative about sg3 ut feels very plasticky
Im on my SG3

SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low

Man, I was heavily leaning towards the GS3 until today. I went to the Sprint store on my lunch break and played with both phones extensively, and in the end the GS3 suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did, so I'm guessing it's maybe related to ICS? To be more specific, I'm picky. I like having a phone that switches from task to task very quickly (I felt my Epic 4G Touch did that very well). So for example, if I'm on the app store downloading app after app, the phones will begin to slow a little during installs if I switching from screen to screen. I thought at first it was maybe the LTEVO, but I was able to replicate that behavior on the GS3 also, so it's safe to say that the 2gb of RAM isn't really needed, or is at least not helping any of the "real world" tests I tried.
Also, the camera on the LTEVO is quite a bit better. It was both faster, and offered better quality shots more consistently. HTC's camera software absolutely sucks, but I think the camera unit is better. I tested the macro settings and they were significantly better on the LTEVO. Basically, I could focus on things closer to the lens compared to the GS3.
So I think I'm going to pick the LTEVO again. I don't want anyone to think that I'm bashing the GS3. In all honesty either of those phones are an absolute great choice since they are extremely similar where it counts, and really only different in the personal preference areas (such as look, build, removable battery, etc). Performance is just about the same on both phones. I hope this thread was as helpful to someone else as it was to me

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SG3:
Good:
easy to root, install rom
removable battery
universal accessories (all versions including international can use same accessories)
very good loudspeaker
Bad:
battery drains quick compare to the Evo Lte
it does not feel like solid phone (like it can break easily)
slow charging (as with most Samsung)
Evo LTE:
Good:
Excellent battery life
Excellent fit and finish
Phone feels solid
kickstand
camera
music player with soundhound integration
fast charging (as with most HTC phones)
Bad:
non removable battery (my biggest complaint) I stream sports videos a lot so I go through batteries like crazy
dialer cannot send text, have to use messaging app separately
when you click on a phone number from a link or text you are forced to use the phone/dial pad instead of the messaging app (very annoying) I think it is Apple lawsuit related
no quick toggles from drop down menu
loudspeaker volume is too low
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For the EVO LTE bad list, you sound like you're nitpicking for a longer list. How many people send texts through the dialer? The HTCLinkify thing can be removed (so the click on a phone number thing is fixable), the EVO LTE has a button in the notification to get into settings (not as good as toggles, but not as bad as "nothing"). the loud speaker being too low is arbitrary.
You also left out some cons for the SGS3. There's a LOT of proprietary software that isn't very good (sounds like Sense doesn't it?), S-Voice is a gimmick.
There's just as many Sense haters as there are Touchwiz haters...it all comes down to preference. I'm going for the LTE because it's many of the same developers who's softwares I've been using since the OG EVO. Can't beat that pedigree. For most people, though, it's a question of would they rather be bloated down by Touchwiz and have a blue phone or be bloated down by HTC Sense and have a black phone with a kickstand. Otherwise, the specs are too identical to even consider voting one way or the other.

I was in love with the new evo, and when I saw my employee pricing through best buy for the gs3 I fell in love with it more ahaha. Some doof in corporate marked it 350 off contract so I traded in my 3d and it payed for it. But after playing with my friends evo, I realized that I liked my phone better. Touchwiz 5 is great IMO and I was ready to try something other than a HTC phone.
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What contributes to the opinion that the camera is better on the EVO? I feel quite the opposite. I hear the new Sense is like dropping anchor at full speed. I also bow to the mighty God Odin, fixer of bootloops restorer of stock roms. I like the Gorilla Glass, not sure if EVO has been upgraded to that. Samsung does take forever with updates (though we've had 2 already) but they don't release crap updates. Either HTC has some whiny fans or their updates aren't really top-notch. Samsung phones tend to feel more organic in shape in my hand. I find it to be the difference between driving and older honda versus an old volvo. Some people love boxy. I also feel like Samsung is headed in the right direction. After HTC lost the Nexus they seemed to lose their steam. At thsi point Apple is looking desperate against the momentum of Samsung. Makes me feel like I'm backing a strong horse.
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Yes Odin is awesome
I completely agree
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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).

there are already a ton of gs3 vs evolte threads bro

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I owned both and I really wanted to like the evo lte over the s3. I really liked the screen of the evo lte, kickstand, build quality, the dedicated camera button, it was black, and the overall look of it was very cool. It's a shame that the way the multitasking worked on it was really retarded (not sure if this could be fixed by a software update or custom rom). Not only that but the lack of a replaceable battery is really a killer too.
I guess the s3 won me over because of the replaceable battery, the crazy development that will be going on for it, the fact that multitasking didn't have to reload every single time I changed back to a program, and how I could keep programs in my memory to make them smoother (2gb).
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Exactly my experience and thoughts. +1

Before even reading the rest of the replies I'll post my 2¢. Just picked up the Galaxy S3 on Monday evening.
I had the EVO 4G original at release and LOVED LOVED LOVED IT - then last June it, along with half my electronics at home, was the victim of a lightning hit down the alley on one of the transformers. Fortunately my computer gear survived. But I digress. From the EVO 4G I went to the EVO 3D, which, while the phone itself was OK, there wasn't as much of a development community out there for it as some other phones, my OG EVO especially. Cyanogen never came out for it in a year, and battery life ended up being worse and worse over time. If I'd kept the OG EVO I'd probably have been in a much different frame of mind regarding HTC's phones, but the 3D was just not their greatest hit.
Ultimately, I was torn between the 4G LTE and S3 - got both in my hands to play with and was still torn. Ultimately, I didn't want another HTC 'black slab' and I learned to dislike Sense more and more, since many of the higher functioning ROMs out there were Sense-based and I had to run ADW or another launcher on top of it.
So far I couldn't be happier with my choice. I got the blue, no case (maybe I will), and have not rooted (yet). I like the touchwiz interface, have pared down my homescreens to only 4 like I prefer, and battery life is outstanding! I am going to let it discharge all the way and see how long I can squeeze out of it. It's the idle/standby time that is so outstanding in my mind. Only a few percentage points gone overnight as opposed to 30-40% with the EVO 3D.
Oh, and the screen on this thing is amazing. So clear and sharp and beautiful...and as big as cellphone screens should ever get! Seriously.

Because of one thing - the name
Saying "Galaxy S3" is much easier than Saying "Sprint EVO 4G LTE". But don't listen to us. Walk, ride, skip or fly over to your nearest sprint store and see for yourself. The GS3 has 2GB of ram which is really awesome when multitasking. If you ask me all high end devices should have 2GB of ram. Other than that it's about the build. The EVO has a nicer screen, it feels like a solid brick that could hurt someone, and it has a kick stand. The GS3 feels soft like a babies bottom or a mammary and it looks super awesome also like a mammary. Amirite?

I actually feel differently on the aspect of development. I came from the OG EVO also, and dev support on that thing was amazing. From that I "upgraded" to the EVO 3D, but soon thereafter switched to the Epic 4G Touch as soon as it launched. Dev support just wasn't there for the EVO 3D. After I did some research, it made sense (no pun intended), but the EVO 3D was doomed from the start. What I mean by that is that it was never intended to be the true successor to the OG EVO, and thus not a lot of devs followed the device. Made perfect sense. The Epic 4G Touch had *better* dev support, but it still wasn't anywhere near what the OG EVO had.
I guess either way it's too early to tell which of the two (LTEVO and GS3) is going to have better dev support, but for some reason my gut is telling me that the LTEVO will.
I don't know if I agree with the 2gb of RAM on a phone just yet. iOS is a pretty crappy multi-tasking OS, yet the iPhone 4S only has 512mb of RAM and it's still a very good performing phone by today's standards. I also tested the SG3 (as mentioned in one of my previous posts), and it suffered from the same performance issues the LTEVO did when running it through my personal "real world" tests. So at least in my experience, the 2gb didn't seem to help the SG3.
Either way, both great phones. No clear winner over the other, when taking everything into consideration

Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass

Tl;dr
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We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.

GG2012 said:
We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.
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This is by far the best advice I have seen on xda ...ever.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Back when you were content with your phone(s), things were growing much slower than they are now. At the current rate that phones are being released, it's guaranteed that there will be a new and better phone that you will want within the first year. Companies don't want you to be content with a phone for too long. I bet Samsung has better features right now that could have been added to the s4, but they want to save those for the s5.
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I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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You can see the phones I've had in my signature, all 3 Nokias were indestructible...the old flip phone, I threw it at a wall and it exploded into a million pieces, put it back together and the thing still works...man they really knew how to build phones...
The Nexus One was a great phone. I had to drop it and break the internal screen (oddly enough the outer glass didn't crack at all.). But it felt great in my hand, it was very solid and built well.
The Nexus S was kind of disappointing I have to say...Almost completely the same specs and I felt it wasn't built as well. I sold it for my GS-II
That stupid thing was the retarded stepchild of the S-II fleet...the poor developers were stuck with GB while T-Mobile picked its ass holding back all the updates. ****ty screen for sure, visible display flaws, poor PPI, cheap feeling...I never wanted to get a Samsung again. But I did...
The S-III was a huge improvement to say the least...I'm very satisfied with it. It does feel cheaper than say my old N1, but I think it feels a lot better than the NS or t989. Honestly with a screen protector and an otterbox commuter case, it's just fine. And as long as I have my Cyanogenmod, I don't care what software the thing comes with . Barring anything crazy coming out anytime soon, I don't see myself getting another phone until this falls apart.
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
BTW: I sold my t989 on eBay for $350, all I had to do was unlock the thing, instantly increases it's value by a good $150. Always unlock your phone before you sell it, it will sell for much more.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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Referring to the music, my library exceeds 30 gigs and I've just found it irritating to sync and manage. Not a huge issue though. I think we're on the same page though. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way about the device. The thing is that I can get the HTC One spending all of my current savings, but then of course that means no new phone in the coming months. And Later this year there are just too many rumors about this "X Phone" and the new nexus... Idk.
zander21510 said:
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
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I see where you're coming from. I got a huge Seido case for my S3, and then took it off after about a month. I dropped it afterwards (about 9 feet onto my subwoofer, long story) and nothing happened luckily. I like it better without a case. I guess looks would be a smaller factor then. Maybe, I should just snap that huge case back on and try to hold out until the holiday season... Idk lol. Thanks for the reply. :good:

I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?

ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Companies are getting us used to crave new things within very short periods of time, an example of this is the fact that new phones, tablets or any kind of electronics pop every 4 to 6 months, which is done to satisfy our non-basic needs of always having the latest gadgets, and to create more profits or economic growth for the typical capitalist corporations. We've been spoiled to have new tech very fast, which is in a way bad as this craving (or addiction?) can easily go out control and we can be left bored with very new gadgets in our hands or even go into debt t o satisfy this craving for more. This spoiling behavior makes us feel the need to want more or not to be satisfied with what we have and we can quickly become slaves of technology if we dive too deep into it, hence what you are feeling when you say that you are growing unimpressed with so many innovations or not satisfied or please with the current technology. Perhaps I'm going a bit of topic, but is worth to be aware where we stand as consumers and the invisible ways corporations play with our "addictions" or "needs" for the latest.

I love the looks of both the Nexus 4 and the HTC one better than my Galaxy S3, but no removeable battery and no expandable memory? Get serious? I can deal with a plasic back, the price I paid tells me it's not cheap! Anyways, I don't agree with anything else you said. This phone was awesomly fast out of the box and now I have a custom ROM that even improved on that. Plus, I prefer Samoleds although I admit Samsung could do better. A 1080p screen with Super Amoled + with a different pentile arrangement would be nice. My next phone is most likely to be the Note 3, Samsung is just at the edge of innovation right now, too much so for me not to buy. Can't wait!

nyyankees1237 said:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.

Can't forget the holographic keyboard.
Scores over 10,000 on quadrant, I saw a stock HTC one today score 9133 on quadrant running stock 4.1.2. That was impressive.
I like your dream phone.
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zander21510 said:
I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.
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I'll take two! Haha
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The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..

wardoc22 said:
The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..
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Those specs would definitely be amazing haha. But yeah, I did end up getting the HTC one, and I think I'm happier. I havent even rooted yet and I'm still content. It just works so well. Everything is so clean and sexy.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
Perfect phone for me though:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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By your specs, would the Google S4 be it?
BTW, my dream specs:
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+battery
2ghz quadcore processor
3gb ram
Micro SD card slot
128gb+internal storage
Stock android
12+MP camera
4+MP front camera
Wireless charging
Front facing speakers
FM radio (for my mom)
LTE
Inexpensive

wardoc22 said:
Grrr Seattle rain..
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Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....

Thetenthdr said:
Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....
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It rains here 24.7 in the winter.

Yes, yes it does.
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