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I know that i sound like a broken record but bare with me for a bit.
to get froyo up and running on my device do i first root my device using that one click website(cant find the link anymore, does anyone know the link?) and then download whatever rom and compatible radio and just install it on my desire?
do i need to first make my htc desire unlocked/sim free? my htc desire is sim locked to t mobile.
thanks in advance
any suggestions? thanks
IF you want to go to the official FroYo 2.2 ROM you just need to make a goldcard and flash the official RUU file
IF, however, you wanna go down the custom route then you'd be best using unrEVOked as it roots your phone in one go (was extremely easy actually)
ok nice one. i dont need a unlocked desire thoughh innit?
Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
SeanBond said:
Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
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Is your device PVT4 old (20000) or PVT4 new (40000)?
Read this thread to find out how to check this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
You shouldn't have any problems rooting and flashing custom ROMs if your device has a PVT4 20000 erasesize. Use unrEVOked v3.22, safe and best successful method so far.
If your PVT4 has an erasesize of 40000, then i know of only of certain number of ROMs that have been confirmed to work with this type of device - Oxygen, LeeDroid's, ReflexTSenseHD, and MIUI.
You should not have a problem flashing any of these custom ROMs with the modified CWM-AlphaRev Recovery 2.5.1.3, which you must install with unrEVOked if your phone has an erasesize of 40000
As you were originally branded to T-Mobile, you will need to create a Gold Card only if you want to revert back to your original stock ROM (i.e. later on for warranty reasons). You should be able to find your original RUU by searching shipped-roms.com.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
I dont really care about the warrenty thing etc, and i could always do that later i guess.
Ill have a check now on what it is.
So will apps2sd still work etc?
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Ok, i have checked and i have 2000! YUPPEEEE!
I have already rooted with unrEVOked, does this mean that i need to again? i also have clockwork
A2SD+/Data2SD will work fine for you and since you are already rooted, you will not need to re-root or reinstall clockwork either. Flash away in confidence
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Awesome, do i need to make a partition to do a2sd? and does it matter i dont have S-OFF?
Cheers for the help man
Yes you will need to, all custom roms require this prerequisite really. You can use Rom Manager to achieve this, it allows you to create up to an SD-EXT size of 512 MB for dedicated app data space. If you require a bigger EXT partition use AmonRa and flash with unrevoked, or use GParted - there are plenty guides on the forum on how to do this.
Yes, you dont need s-off, unless you want full root access to your phone.
Edit: sorry for the delay in replying... still trying to get use to swype.
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Not too bothered about full root tbh, aslong as i have a2sd.
Cheers for the help mate
Then you are good to go after you make your ext partition
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Just backing up my SD card now, the only thing i will miss is the sence clock
I don't use that clock anymore, nor do I use sense UI... I'm a fully fledged miui convert
If you want the sense clock, search the marketplace for 'sense clock widget', there are many variations - customisable too
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Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
SeanBond said:
Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
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Well if that's your thing then by all means, go for it
I totally understand where you are coming from though... I used to love sense ui and everything it had to offer but once I tried miui, I was amazed at how good it actually was/is, running out of superlatives for it
You could also give the DHD roms a go (ported from Desire HD), as they include the cool new sense features.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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No need to apologise and its good that you are making the effort to ask before a mistake is made, so i appreciate that.
He did debrand by using unrEVOked - it does not require you to use a Gold Card for it and provides you with root access (software root) to the phone. Only when you want to return to stock rom, you then you will need to create and use a Gold Card before running the appropriate RUU. If you want to create a Gold Card, use the one in my sig below.
Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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Yeah i didnt make a goldcard.
Was pretty easy, flashed right from ROM manager.
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Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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You have two options here.
If you are branded and want to root in order to install a custom ROM, then you either create a Gold Card to unlock the phone's CID, just use unrEVOked, which does not require the creation of a Gold Card and provides you with root access to your phone, thus allowing you to flash custom roms, custom kernels, and custom radios. I don't know the full workings of unrEVOked, but it bypassed your phones CID lock feature and does not require you to create a Gold Card.
You only need to create a Gold Card if you want to return to stock rom as you were originally network branded.
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
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How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
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Software branding, for instance, when you boot the phone, it will show your network carrier splashscreen, like T-Mobile, or 02, or Orange. Also, their own icons will also be visible on the homescreen, for example.
Hi everyone. First off, I saw the video before watching, I searched the forum, I tried google but I'm a complete noob and a lot of the things I've read don't make much sense to me or I'm not sure if my phone falls under 'rootable' or 'unrootable, needs xtc clip or w.e'
I have an HTC Wildfire S with Bell. I checked and it says "S-ON", its Android 2.3.3 with HTC Sense 2.1 at first I was going to use this tutorial but I wasn't sure if my phone falls under that since it has "S-ON"
Also...lets suppose I can root it, how do I go about unrooting just in case I need to take it for warranty or something? (since I payed extra for that). I read something about EUU? But again, it didn't make much sense to me.
Sorry, I swear I searched hard to find an answer :S
You cannot root you phone if it's s on. Only way is to buy x clip which is almost the same price as of the phone :/
Thanks for the reply. Damn, I was hoping that wouldn't be the answer. Well that sucks, thanks anyways.
xtc clip is currently about 80% off at the moment on their website due to them discontinuing the PAYG clip....
For us in the UK, it means the XTC Clip is just shy of £40
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Hi everyone. First off, I saw the video before watching, I searched the forum, I tried google but I'm a complete noob and a lot of the things I've read don't make much sense to me or I'm not sure if my phone falls under 'rootable' or 'unrootable, needs xtc clip or w.e'
I have an HTC Wildfire S with Bell. I checked and it says "S-ON", its Android 2.3.3 with HTC Sense 2.1 at first I was going to use this tutorial but I wasn't sure if my phone falls under that since it has "S-ON"
Also...lets suppose I can root it, how do I go about unrooting just in case I need to take it for warranty or something? (since I payed extra for that). I read something about EUU? But again, it didn't make much sense to me.
Sorry, I swear I searched hard to find an answer :S
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Regis1,
from the moment you decide to start rooting, you loose your warranty. At the moment there's no way back from S-OFF to S-ON. Putting your phone in S-OFF (security flag OFF) is the same like removing the VOID sticker...
First think about why you wan't to root. Install unbranded ROM, another language, ...
If your phone is working like it should, I wouldn't root it...
IF you decide to root, you can try to follow this thread (if u have HBOOT 0.90.0000):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142529
(HOWTO for creating a goldcard is in one of the reply's)
IF you have a newer HBOOT, 1.03.0000 like I had, you need to buy an XTC PayG clip. These cost around 30 euros on eBay. This will put your phone S-OFF and from then on you can flash a custom recovery or any Wildfire S ROM (with root access) you want.
PS: the thread you specified, is for a Wildfire, not he Wildfire S and doesn't work...
^^Thanks for the reply. Ya, I wanted to install some custom rom as my battery seems to die quickly and I was hoping I could install a rom (its called rom right? lol) that is good for battery life. Forget what it's called but seeing as how you're saying it automatically voids my warranty and there's no going back its really not worth the trouble. I'll just google some methods to save battery life and look at a thread I saw here. I do like my phone overall and have no problem with it, I just figured that if I can make it more customizable then why not. I kind of imagined it would be like jailbreaking an iPhone so I thought why not. Turns out I'm wrong.
@taffypride: Well that's about $60 for me which isn't worth it at the moment, just as I said. Thanks though.
I suppose I'll keep my phone the way it is for now. Thanks for all the replies.
HTC wouldn't care if it's S-off as some phones are shipped that way, the xtc clip is a one time purchase and will be updated to unlock newer phones within the future, also unrooting is very easy. All you have to do is install an RUU from your region or a WWE (World wide edition)
Well I bought extra warranty from the store I bought it from (bestbuy) so this isn't a manufacturer warranty. But both ways it seems like too much of a headache at the moment anyway. I'd rather wait until I've had the phone for a while and am bored with it. That would be a perfect time for rooting experiments
You will get bored quickly. After rooting it the possibility's are endless.
unroot htc wildfire s (s-on)
i have htc wildfire s (asia india version,build:2.13.720.1)
you can root your phone via unlocking your bootloader(s-on) and then use htc supertool.
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imlgl said:
HTC wouldn't care if it's S-off as some phones are shipped that way, the xtc clip is a one time purchase and will be updated to unlock newer phones within the future, also unrooting is very easy. All you have to do is install an RUU from your region or a WWE (World wide edition)
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Hello, I am from India, I started to unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com but it seems to be backdated from my phone!
i also selected htc asia india but my software number is 2.26.720.18!! which is way advanced than that!!!! where can i find such an advanced ruu????
Just do that without ruu file, from list of models pick All other supported models, last choice in that list
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
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portoskt said:
Just do that without ruu file, from list of models pick All other supported models, last choice in that list
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So should I choose a model which is advanced than wildfire?
Plz suggest a model!
And should I proceed to step1 without proccessing my phone with the ruu??
Proceed without ruu
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Galaxy Ace
mallik.android said:
So should I choose a model which is advanced than wildfire?
Plz suggest a model!
And should I proceed to step1 without proccessing my phone with the ruu??
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Sorry for offtopic. Galaxy Ace almost same price as wildfire s.:laugh::good: U should better buy that one. Wildfire S sucks.
Sorry for asking this but I come from Desire HD and things seem more straight forward there in regards to root and custom roms.
I see that WFS is rootable but then S-OFF has not been broken yet. What's the difference with XTC-Clip then?
From what I understood, the only way to root WFS is XTC-CLIP which allows you to have root access, install custom ROM and recovery but it will not allow you to install radio and kernel? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My main requirement is to be able to install apps on sd and use apps like titanium backup to freeze/remove bloatware. What do I need for this?
I see that I can upgrade to latest 2.3.5 since it's not available for my region. If I do so, will it still be rootable or I will lose this and then need to downgrade like with DHD?
Again I apologise for asking all these but you see I follow a complete forum on DesireHD and I don't have time reading here as well. I want to complete this as fast as possible for my wife.
EDIT: Oh now I see, XTC-Clip is hardware. So apart from using this, WFS is non-rootable unless S-Off is achieved?
andreasy said:
Sorry for asking this but I come from Desire HD and things seem more straight forward there in regards to root and custom roms.
I see that WFS is rootable but then S-OFF has not been broken yet. What's the difference with XTC-Clip then?
From what I understood, the only way to root WFS is XTC-CLIP which allows you to have root access, install custom ROM and recovery but it will not allow you to install radio and kernel? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My main requirement is to be able to install apps on sd and use apps like titanium backup to freeze/remove bloatware. What do I need for this?
I see that I can upgrade to latest 2.3.5 since it's not available for my region. If I do so, will it still be rootable or I will lose this and then need to downgrade like with DHD?
Again I apologise for asking all these but you see I follow a complete forum on DesireHD and I don't have time reading here as well. I want to complete this as fast as possible for my wife.
EDIT: Oh now I see, XTC-Clip is hardware. So apart from using this, WFS is non-rootable unless S-Off is achieved?
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If you make your phone s-off with the XTC clip you can root your phone or flash anything you want..
You have to be s-off to remove bloatware by HTC.
You can upgrade to 2.3.5 and it will still be rootable if you s-off it..
Thanks. However, I'll need to buy that clip which I don't intend to right now so for me, it's not rootable until S-OFF is managed. Correct?
But there's a temproot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916 here..
You can find a shop near you that has the clip and unlock it.
...hope this isnt a pointless thread, but I felt these are a valid set of questions... might be wrong though... >_<
In any case, I've just been informed that the HTC now officially unlocks the DHD bootloader through their website.
Now, my questions...
Does anyone know the difference between the Official HTC bootloader unlock procedure versus the Radio and ENG-HBOOT procedure posted by jkoljo?
Also, note that the HTC way looks like its just one procedure... whilst jkoljo's are distinctly two (one for Radio and one for HBOOT)... if the HTC procedure is initially used, would you still need to do either of jkoljo's? ie the Radio S-Off one... assuming the HTC way gives you only Eng-HBOOT S-OFF?
Hell, do you still need to downgrade with the HTC bootloader unlock?
Lastly, I've already used jkoljo's procedure and now fully Radio & HBOOT S-Off'ed... is there any point of doing the HTC unlock bootloader procedure? Would it actually give me a negative result if I actually go through the HTC procedure now with the current state of my phone?
Anyways, thanks for reading through my musings... and here's hoping someone with the knowhow answers well... ^_^
/Peace
I would like to no this to, but do we really need to worry now we are rooted ?
Yes me 2. What are the pros and cons of them?
...from reading the FAQ on the HTCdev about it.
...according to its FAQ
It seems you're still S-ON after their procedure. This is to apparently secure the radio as well as the SIM-Lock...
So me thinks we might still need jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure afterwards...
...Although, with HTC leaving that lock... I'm a bit dubious about advocating their procedure now as opposed to jkoljo's as well as the Advanced Ace Hack kit. The latter of which is actually the most effective imho, though it still needs jkoljo's ENG-S-OFF procedure...
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
truc007 said:
Do not try to unlock the bootloader of your phone.
it's not locked.
If someone can clarify this: for me the DHD bootloader has never been locked!?!
I was planing to go for sensation when HTC launched it but kept my DHD as sensation was locked and it was not possible to put custom ROM.
From my first HTC, the first thing I always do was removing Sense... (HD, HD2 then DHD). As far as I know Sensation was the first with locked bootloader.
if someone can explain... i'll be more than happy
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Root is different from unlocking bootloader eg the Motorola Milestone has root but the bootloader is still locked. This still allows you to load partially customized ROMs but prevents loading custom kernels for one thing.
My question though would be:
What exactly is the point in HTC's bootloader unlocker? Say you go from a stock phone, upgraded froyo to GB all the way. You dont have s-off or eng-off or anything, what would the benefit be to now unlock the bootloader "officially"?
Does it supply a recovery with nandroid backup or allow GB to be rooted or anything like that?
The benefit would be that you lose your warranty because HTC saves your serial, which wouldn't happen if you do it yourself.
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Exactly...and thanks to AAHK it's not really difficult to get Root, S-Off and CWM on our phones
DN41
Wonder why HTC went through "all the trouble" to do a bootloader unlocker for Desire HD now anyway? its like p#ssing on the ashes AFTER the house burnt down, surely they know there's a dozen ways to get there that are far less involved than their convoluted scheme. *shrugs*
I did this just because there's no major action on ICS and no action on rcmix runny, so i needed to do something to my phone.
Its a real convoluted process.
you need to restore to stock and update to the latest ruu before you can then install the new hboot to then unlock.
The only difference is now i have locked, then unlocked at the top of the bootloader screen.
still needed to re root the stock rom to install 4ext to nandroid the stock and restore ICS.
Really not worth the effort trying ifyou already have a custom recovery and s-off.
Unless you want the latest possible date to show off...
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
Pibroens said:
But if you unlocked the bootloader, what is the best way to get root access?
I want to use eg Titanium backup
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Check the stickies in the dev forum like this one.
If you have S-OFF, obviously you can skip to the next steps, which is to root.
Make sure you read, read, read so you don't miss anything important.