Ok, I have the play, r800ra, i flashed the r800a stock modified rom to it. Now I am assuming from everything I have read since I have a locked bootloader there is no possible way for me to get to cm7. I cant flash a custom kernal or anything like that. I have to stick to the stock roms. Or can I flash custom kernals and then flash custom roms? Any help is appreciated.
Snakethis69 said:
Ok, I have the play, r800ra, i flashed the r800a stock modified rom to it. Now I am assuming from everything I have read since I have a locked bootloader there is no possible way for me to get to cm7. I cant flash a custom kernal or anything like that. I have to stick to the stock roms. Or can I flash custom kernals and then flash custom roms? Any help is appreciated.
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With a locked bootloader,you can't flash anything.How did you even flash the modified ROM anyway?
Anyway,its best if you flash kernels,then the ROMs,in my opinion.
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I just used that flash utitlty and flashed the rom I downloaded. Gave me the erickson generic rom.
Snakethis69 said:
I just used that flash utitlty and flashed the rom I downloaded. Gave me the erickson generic rom.
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Hmm I couldn't flash anything when my bootloader was locked so I just had to use SEMC for stock updates and with a locked bootloader I couldn't do anything else but root.
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Hey Guys,
I want to try out cyanogenmod 7.1 on my xperia play. I still have a locked bootloader but clockwordmod recovery is already installed, so if something goes wrong, i am able to go back to my stock 2.3.4 rom. I think for cyanogen mod working right, i have to flash the doomkernel too? So what will happen if i unlock the bootloader, flash a custom kernel and a custom Rom and then apply the backup, i created before? Will i go back to my stock rom, stock kernel etc? I cant find an answer for this :/ sorry for Bad english, im from germany
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Hydrony said:
Hey Guys,
I want to try out cyanogenmod 7.1 on my xperia play. I still have a locked bootloader but clockwordmod recovery is already installed, so if something goes wrong, i am able to go back to my stock 2.3.4 rom. I think for cyanogen mod working right, i have to flash the doomkernel too? So what will happen if i unlock the bootloader, flash a custom kernel and a custom Rom and then apply the backup, i created before? Will i go back to my stock rom, stock kernel etc? I cant find an answer for this :/ sorry for Bad english, im from germany
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Despite the fact that you have recovery, you can't use cyanogenmod on a locked bootloader. Cyanogenmod requires a kernel that is different from stock, and you can't flash a kernel on a locked bootloader.
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Yes, i know about that. My question is, if i unlock my bootloader, flash a custom kernel, Flash cyanogenmod and THEN use clockwordmod recovery to apply my nandroid Backup, that i createt, before unlocking the bootloader and flashing all These things, will this work? So im back at my stock rom and stock kernel? I really want to try out cyanogenmod, but i want the option to go back to stock, if something is Not the way, i imagined. And i dont know, if the kernel is included in a nandroidbackup. Furthermore, i dont know if a Backup, created with an locked bootloader will work on a device with an unlocked bootloader too?
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Sorry, I guess I didn't read your post in its entirety.
The short of it is yes, you can use the nandroid of a locked on an unlocked phone. The nandroid won't backup nor restore the kernel, that must be flashed separately. The kernel is such a small filesize, and the command is easy enough that it shouldn't be a problem. That is, unless you wanted to change kernels while away from a computer.
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Thank you, this was really helpful to me so i have to download the stock kernel, if i want everything as it was before cyanogenmod. But thats not the Problem, i guess. I think i'm going to try it out after work, thank you for your fast answers
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I'm not entirely sure, but I don't believe there are any stock kernels available. You can use an .ftf file with flashtool, as that sets everything to stock, then restore a nandroid after reinstalling recovery.
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Ahhh thats a lot easier than the way, i planned to do this. Thanks
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If you restore a nandroid from a stock ROM after flashing the cyanogen kernel your phone won't boot.
You would need to go back to the stock kernel before restoring. Problem is, you don't have a recovery in the stock kernel.
You could revert using flashtool, by flashing stock, then rooting, then install the locked version cwm, then restore.
Or after unlocking the bootloader before even trying cyanogen, flash DooMKernel, and make a backup through the kernel recovery. Then you can try cwm, and if you don't like it, flash DooMKernel again and restore.
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Hopefully my title didn't confuse anyone lol.
I was told the main reason for flashing a custom kernel is entering recovery mode, well if that's the case, I have an app called x-parts, it allows me to boot my xperia play in recovery mode without flashing a custom kernel. so....would I be able to flash a custom rom via x-parts WITHOUT having to flash a kernel?
IM HAVING THE HARDEST TIME TRYING TO GET CM7/CM9 ON MY PHONE, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
Xperia Player said:
Hopefully my title didn't confuse anyone lol.
I was told the main reason for flashing a custom kernel is entering recovery mode, well if that's the case, I have an app called x-parts, it allows me to boot my xperia play in recovery mode without flashing a custom kernel. so....would I be able to flash a custom rom via x-parts WITHOUT having to flash a kernel?
IM HAVING THE HARDEST TIME TRYING TO GET CM7/CM9 ON MY PHONE, ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!
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I'm pretty sure you can use the same kernel for a CM7 ROM since stock and CM7 are the same Android version, basically.
However, to use an ICS based ROM, flashing a custom kernel is necessary.
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I'm pretty sure you can use the same kernel for a CM7 ROM since stock and CM7 are the same Android version, basically.
However, to use an ICS based ROM, flashing a custom kernel is necessary.
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It means that i can flash CM7 on stock???? Without flash a custom kernel??? If that is true then CM7 works on locked bootloader....
No. You must have a custom kernel for a custom ROM. Any ROMs that can be flashed on locked bootloader will say so explicitly. CM7 is not one of those.
Thanks for the info guys just curious to see how kernels tried into roms
Please guide me after update of firmware to 6.1.A.2.452 I will loose root?.Can I flash another firmware for stock custom rom via flashtool without unlocked bootloader?.Can I unlock my bootloader after the update?Which is the best stock custom rom and other custom rom which is easy to install & better than stock rom
Rooted 4.0.4 rom with locked bootloader
6.1.A.0.452
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Something easy is flash your new firmware and use a kernel like "Advanced Stock ICS Kernel" to root and finally reflash your stock kernel if your want its improvements, you can unlock your bootloader anytime, and the best custom room is Cyanogen, it just needs to flash an file in recovery mode.
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Something easy is flash your new firmware and use a kernel like "Advanced Stock ICS Kernel" to root and finally reflash your stock kernel if your want its improvements, you can unlock your bootloader anytime, and the best custom room is Cyanogen, it just needs to flash an file in recovery mode.
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First I need to flash new firmware then unlock bootloader and flash new kernel?
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I'd just like to say hi to everyone, my name is Mick.
I have an Arc S, originally running GB, but currently running ICS, build 4.1.A.0.562 which I updated to via SEUS a while ago.
I've used DoomLord's one click method to root the phone, have CWM installed, and I've been happy with it since, but I've now decided to see about installing a custom rom.
I've done a lot of reading on here about locked and unlocked boot loaders, and mine's locked so a bit restrictive in what I can do I gather.
What I'd like to know is, a lot of the roms for locked bl's, say based on, or must have, the .587 build, but mine is the earlier .562.
What is the best way to proceed?
Can I flash the .587 kernel with flashtool as I've read that the stock, signed kernels can be flashed on locked bls. Is this right, and does flashing a stock .587 kernel affect rooting?
Any help, or links to whatever I haven't found yet, would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Mick.
MickieH said:
I'd just like to say hi to everyone, my name is Mick.
I have an Arc S, originally running GB, but currently running ICS, build 4.1.A.0.562 which I updated to via SEUS a while ago.
I've used DoomLord's one click method to root the phone, have CWM installed, and I've been happy with it since, but I've now decided to see about installing a custom rom.
I've done a lot of reading on here about locked and unlocked boot loaders, and mine's locked so a bit restrictive in what I can do I gather.
What I'd like to know is, a lot of the roms for locked bl's, say based on, or must have, the .587 build, but mine is the earlier .562.
What is the best way to proceed?
Can I flash the .587 kernel with flashtool as I've read that the stock, signed kernels can be flashed on locked bls. Is this right, and does flashing a stock .587 kernel affect rooting?
Any help, or links to whatever I haven't found yet, would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Mick.
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First, .562 update is crap. Sony released a crappy 4.0.3 update, better update if you can.
Then installing stock firmware before installing a custom ROM is not necessary.
Yes, there is difference in .562 and .587 kernels. Apparently, .562 kernels have a security hole in it, which can be used for rooting, however .587 kernels don't have it anymore and you will have to install older kernel to root and then install newer kernel back.
Yes u can flash .587 kernel using flashtool & this will not effect on root... But I will suggest u to update ur phones firmware to .587 (.562 is full of bugs), root it & install cwm then flash stock based custom roms which supports locked bootloader..
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Samak46 said:
Yes u can flash .587 kernel using flashtool & this will not effect on root... But I will suggest u to update ur phones firmware to .587 (.562 is full of bugs), root it & install cwm then flash stock based custom roms which supports locked bootloader..
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It does. 4.1.A.0.562 kernel has a security hole in it, which is used to root via DooMLoRD's method. .587 kernel has that hole patched and that root method does not work.
Thanks for the replies.
Ok, so this means that I can use flashtool to flash the .587 kernel, and then whichever rom afterwards.
I have tried flashing roms with the .562 kernel, and they do work, but I get odd glitches.
The Walkman app in Zelly Cream 2.0 for instance says it has unexpectedly stopped whenever I click on My Music, and the Ultimte HD rom is really good, but the native Movie player won't work and does the same whenever I click on a video.
Each app works ok on one rom, but not on the other.
At the moment I've got the Zelly Cream rom installed and just disabled the Walkman, so had to download another player.
So far I've not had any issues with boot loops or anything, but I have been wiping properly before installing.
I have got a stock .587 kernel I found on here, so I'll try flashing that and see if it's any better.
It's a shame the boot loader is locked, but I've also read that removing the sim lock can fix this.
Thanks again for the info. :good:
587 kernel
Sorry, has anyone got a link for a generic .587 kernel as when I search, the ones that come up have been modified in some way, and my boot loader is locked.
Thanks.
Got it
Ah, it's ok, I think I've found it.
The first one I downloaded was reproting LT15 in Flashtool, so after a bit more searching found it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838830
Should be ok.
Just download the whole ROM, but choose only kernel to install.
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Your phone's not covered under warranty anymore, so why don't you try unlocking the bootloader? Would barely take a few minutes.
Hi, Flash new .587 firmwar..... flash .562 kernel only.....root phone.....flash original .587 kernel only.....this video helped me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjv71b9QcZE
Feel free to get in touch...good luck !!
Hi, I've had my Xperia play for a few weeks and feel like i want to install a new rom as the default 2.3.4 software is a bit sluggish. Ive already rooted and installed CWM and backed it up. I have a locked bootloader and the first instruction to installing the rom is to install a stock rom, Don't i already have that installed as i haven't installed a custom rom before? Should i just skip this step? Thanks in advance! My Model is R800i and the build is 4.0.2.A.0.42.
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Hi, I've had my Xperia play for a few weeks and feel like i want to install a new rom as the default 2.3.4 software is a bit sluggish. Ive already rooted and installed CWM and backed it up. I have a locked bootloader and the first instruction to installing the rom is to install a stock rom, Don't i already have that installed as i haven't installed a custom rom before? Should i just skip this step? Thanks in advance! My Model is R800i and the build is 4.0.2.A.0.42.
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it depends on which kernel you want to use.
.42 firmware does not support custom partition layout, so in order to use kernel like Turbo Kernel by CosmicDan or Lupus Kernel by wedgess (both with custom partitions) you'll need to flash .62 firmware or newer, wipe userdata and system and then flash the kernel.
While this isn't needed if you want to use, for example, DoomKernel
CriGiu said:
it depends on which kernel you want to use.
.42 firmware does not support custom partition layout, so in order to use kernel like Turbo Kernel by CosmicDan or Lupus Kernel by wedgess (both with custom partitions) you'll need to flash .62 firmware or newer, wipe userdata and system and then flash the kernel.
While this isn't needed if you want to use, for example, DoomKernel
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But i have a Locked Bootloader so i cant install Kernels right? so should i just skip this step or should i get a new stock rom?
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But i have a Locked Bootloader so i cant install Kernels right? so should i just skip this step or should i get a new stock rom?
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Lol sorry didn't see you're on a locked bootloader you must unlock before you can flash any kernel
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CriGiu said:
Lol sorry didn't see you're on a locked bootloader you must unlock before you can flash any kernel
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Still havent answered my question, I dont really want to unlock my bootloader if its possible to just flash the rom but do i have to flash a stock rom even though i haven't installed a custom rom before as wouldnt i already have a stock rom? The rom is a GB rom so i dont have to unlock the bootloader, it even has installation instructions for locked bootloaders.
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Still havent answered my question, I dont really want to unlock my bootloader if its possible to just flash the rom but do i have to flash a stock rom even though i haven't installed a custom rom before as wouldnt i already have a stock rom? The rom is a GB rom so i dont have to unlock the bootloader, it even has installation instructions for locked bootloaders.
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I've said you, you should skip this if you don't want to flash any kernel with custom partition layout
But remember that if you remain on stock kernel you cannot flash no other rom than stock based ones
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