My xperia play has problems running certain games lika FIFA 12 and other downloaded games,constantly lagging in the middle of gameplay.I've looked around certain threads and most users don't face similar problems.
Now I've tried overclocking,deleting lots of bloatware and still have this problem.I then found out that the framerate drops a lot when i tested its graphic performance.
Is there a way to prevent the framerate to drastically fall when I play games like FIFA 12 because it's lagging really bad.Sorry if what I posted makes no sense.I just wanted my games to run the way they are supposed to.
Ive had similar issues now, the first 3 weeks was flawless no lag, nothing, recently it has been lagging a bit, but it happens some times... i jus try and close any programs running in the background and free the RAM.
Even though I've freed so much ram and even overclocked I'm getting the same issue.Been using for 5 months now and this started happening since the 3rd week as well.Since then I've been trying to reinstall the firmware,the apps,everything but to no avail.
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Try using this supercharger script. Working perfectly on my xperia play.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Btw I'm using megaram 2
Ok thanks I'll see if it works cause I've tried it before and it didn't manage to work the first time.As I said the problem is with the framerate.
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Didn't work.Lagging as usual. -_-
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You shouldn't have to do all that. It sounds like there maybe is something wrong with your play.
A few things:
1. Clear your text messages. Having excessive messages jams this thing up quick, I have my limit set at 50 per convo and I delete any conversation I'm not actively participating in for a day or two
2. DO NOT KILL TASKS. This only makes the phone run worse. When you're playing a game its starting tasks from apps that want to update or whatever in the background which causes lag. It will take a few days to calibrate itself back but never kill tasks. The phone will allocate all the memory needed for whatever you're trying to run, this is not Windows you don't need to clear memory.
3. If you haven't already get yourself a Sandisk Class 4 memory card (Do not get a class 10). This is generally considered the optimal SD card for this device.
Doing these things only, my play is bone stock, WITH bloatware on it and all, and I only suffer very very very occasional stutter but otherwise no lag whatsoever.
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You shouldn't have to do all that. It sounds like there maybe is something wrong with your play.
A few things:
1. Clear your text messages. Having excessive messages jams this thing up quick, I have my limit set at 50 per convo and I delete any conversation I'm not actively participating in for a day or two
2. DO NOT KILL TASKS. This only makes the phone run worse. When you're playing a game its starting tasks from apps that want to update or whatever in the background which causes lag. It will take a few days to calibrate itself back but never kill tasks. The phone will allocate all the memory needed for whatever you're trying to run, this is not Windows you don't need to clear memory.
3. If you haven't already get yourself a Sandisk Class 4 memory card (Do not get a class 10). This is generally considered the optimal SD card for this device.
Doing these things only, my play is bone stock, WITH bloatware on it and all, and I only suffer very very very occasional stutter but otherwise no lag whatsoever.
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Thanks I'll take it that to consideration.As I keep rebooting,repairing the phone as in reinstalling the software via SEMC,my messages are pretty much empty,removed bloatware,didn't run any task killer after advice given.And should I not use supercharger at all?I've been using it for awhile and it'll be a hassle removing it though it doesn't cause problems and does not improve performance significantly.
BTW,is the memory card an important factor here? I mean does it improve the gaming performance?I am actually having my games stuttering very very often and not actually lagging,so I don't think my phone's actually experiencing problems as suspected.Is the memory card that comes with the play any good?
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Again,is the memory card that important?
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Again,is the memory card that important?
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Games don't run from the SD card, they are loaded into ram. so it shouldnt be a factor apart from loading times.
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Games don't run from the SD card, they are loaded into ram. so it shouldnt be a factor apart from loading times.
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I see.The problem is,My games keep stuttering in every game that I've played with or without taskkiller and even when I've removed bloatware.
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I see.The problem is,My games keep stuttering in every game that I've played with or without taskkiller and even when I've removed bloatware.
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It may just be a bad flash. I recently flashed the latest firmware, using flashtool and it was a mess, apps force closing everywhere laggy ui ect. I reflashed and everything was back to normal.
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It may just be a bad flash. I recently flashed the latest firmware, using flashtool and it was a mess, apps force closing everywhere laggy ui ect. I reflashed and everything was back to normal.
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Well mine was the generic firmware which my phone wasn't an unlocked bootloader so it was a stock one so I don't understand why they keep stuttering.
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Still getting nothing good out of the games on my phone.Bummer.
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ahmfaris27 said:
Again,is the memory card that important?
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AndroHero said:
Games don't run from the SD card, they are loaded into ram. so it shouldnt be a factor apart from loading times.
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With the factory SD card as well as my original replacement 16gb Class 2 card I noticed lag in games. Once I replaced it with a Class 4 card the lag was gone. The whole game, and not even the whole level loads to memory, the game still reads data from the SD card while the game is playing.
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With the factory SD card as well as my original replacement 16gb Class 2 card I noticed lag in games. Once I replaced it with a Class 4 card the lag was gone. The whole game, and not even the whole level loads to memory, the game still reads data from the SD card while the game is playing.
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Wow really?I might as well give it a go.Thanks!I'll report again if I still face the same problems.
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Looks like there's no improvement despite changing the memory card.It may be the RAM,but I've freed so much memory and my games are still stuttering.
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Here's the available RAM,that I've freed,together with the Class 4 SD card.Even Sims 3 lags now,which didn't when I got the phone..
EDIT:I'm running on locked bootloader with zergrush rooted and running on both Stock Kernel and ROM.
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ahmfaris27 said:
Looks like there's no improvement despite changing the memory card.It may be the RAM,but I've freed so much memory and my games are still stuttering.
Here's the available RAM,that I've freed,together with the Class 4 SD card.Even Sims 3 lags now,which didn't when I got the phone..
EDIT:I'm running on locked bootloader with zergrush rooted and running on both Stock Kernel and ROM.
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You don't need to clear out RAM with Android, you don't even need a task killer. Android manages its memory for you. Its possible you're experiencing lag because Android is getting screwed up by tasks being stopped and started. Continually killing apps can even corrupt them eventually (happened on my Motorola Droid)
I have the same amount of free ram as you right now, and I never ever stop or kill tasks, and my phone is bone stock. By lag are you getting an occasional stutter (like at the title screen of some games) or does the actual game run jerky. I get a title screen stutter on some games, but who cares. VERY occasionally the game stutters for 1/2 a second, it doesn't do much if anything in terms of playability.
I'm honestly at a loss, maybe your phone is defective, otherwise this should have stopped the issue.
Very occasional stutter in game actually.This happens so occasionally in the game that the controls responded a few seconds later after each moment it stutters,resulting in my character usually making an extra move which sometimes costs me.Everything else runs fine.By that I mean normal applications such as the android market and whatnot.Obviously, I wouldn't care much if the phone stutters during the startup of the game only.
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i'm experiencing this too.....asphalt 6 is driving me crazy cause it always stutter on important moment and I crash my car the next few secs
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i have been in search for something to speed up the desire and decided that task managers just **** your phone up .... I was surfing the web the other day for new programs to use and came across a program called "memory boost" ITS SUPERB .... the lite version is free and available on market
the phone since installing is so fast and definately stable ... I upgraded to the full program for $1.99 (click upgrade on the program)
the program keeps your ram at a optimal level ..... it doesnt cause the phone any issues and its remained stable unlike a lot of task managers
the upgrade is via paypal and not the market - I was initally worried but shouldnt have been cos as soon as I paid the link arrived via email at the same time as the paypal confirmation - the download is via pc as you cant do it via your phone
HIGHLY RECOMEND
was going to download it and try it, but i seriously can't find 1 decent review
"Probably does work for most people, but just slowed the system"
"It freed mem on myTouch3G but killed some apps I wanted running! Then graph shows the mem is taken back up? Pointless! Not needed!"
"just killed everything, even my Atk manager then want a $1.99 for full version. ...junk"
it must have been improved since you used it - it really speeds up the system and it hasnt killed anything important ...
as said when i used task killers it screwed my phone up .. touch wood it is running like a well oiled machine
Where do I get this?
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"the phone since installing is so fast and definately stable"
Does that mean the Desire without this app isnt fast enough and isnt stable (keeps crashing)?
Search memory boost in market top application
If you like it defo suggest upgrade to pro version which is done via app press menu when in app and follow instructions
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no it means that it sometimes lags ..... happy with normal speed but a boost is always good !!!
plus task killers makes the phone unstable (what i meant not the desire)
i have bought the app...gonna try it out....
This sounds a lot like a commercial from the creator of the program.
"Have you always had trouble getting your Desire to run fast? Well, not anymore. Try Ultraboostfastmegasuper optimizer! It will improve your mom."
Sorry if this offends anyone, but someone saying "I really think you should consider buying it" gets my guard up.
By the way. Autokiller does the same and is free ;o)
Auto killer made my phone unstable. Been using this for a few days had no problems what so ever
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You will most probably find its an automatic task killer, seeing as the only way to free up RAM is to actually stop processes from using it, it will be killing tasks in the background rather than letting the user select them via a UI like most do. In my opinion best avoided. I won't be using it, just let Android do what it does, and reboot yer phone every couple of days and all will be well.
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
This sounds a lot like a commercial from the creator of the program.
"Have you always had trouble getting your Desire to run fast? Well, not anymore. Try Ultraboostfastmegasuper optimizer! It will improve your mom."
Sorry if this offends anyone, but someone saying "I really think you should consider buying it" gets my guard up.
By the way. Autokiller does the same and is free ;o)
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Yeah.he is just selling it.i've seen posts like this before.
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have the decency of posting it in themes and apps
does using apps to kill open processes make the phone unstable?? I've been using advanced task killer for over 1 month and so far my phone is fine, i open it after several hours to find maybe 12 apps open, meaning I would have maybe 40mb or 50mb free.. then after killing all open up it jumps to 150mb free.
If google has designed the phone to handle open apps properly then why does the ram memory get so low??
any info would be great - I like learning new stuff
It doesn't /get so low/
THAT'S THE WAY LINUX WORKS
1. Overview of memory management
Traditional Unix tools like 'top' often report a surprisingly small amount of free memory after a system has been running for a while. For instance, after about 3 hours of uptime, the machine I'm writing this on reports under 60 MB of free memory, even though I have 512 MB of RAM on the system. Where does it all go?
The biggest place it's being used is in the disk cache, which is currently over 290 MB. This is reported by top as "cached". Cached memory is essentially free, in that it can be replaced quickly if a running (or newly starting) program needs the memory.
The reason Linux uses so much memory for disk cache is because the RAM is wasted if it isn't used. Keeping the cache means that if something needs the same data again, there's a good chance it will still be in the cache in memory. Fetching the information from there is around 1,000 times quicker than getting it from the hard disk. If it's not found in the cache, the hard disk needs to be read anyway, but in that case nothing has been lost in time.
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The percentage of RAM used by the cache doesn't affect in any form or shape the battery or the performance of your phone, since it will be freed when another app needs it.
The only point of Task Killers is to kill background apps that may consume CPU % (but then again, if they're coded the way they're supposed to, it doesn't happen.)
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i open it after several hours to find maybe 12 apps open, meaning I would have maybe 40mb or 50mb free.. then after killing all open up it jumps to 150mb free.
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It's an intelligent utilization of resources!
Android will keep stuff in memory whilst it can to improve performance, and will start killing things of itself if resources get too low. Note that just because an app is open and "consuming" memory doesn't mean it is consuming CPU cycles and battery power.
Having loads of free memory is actually just a waste of resources.
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Hmm.. no 'fence but sounds a little like a sales pitch to me.
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I don't use so called cleaners, and their idea's aren't factual. I do use one basic app to kill two very rarely used installed apps which start running at boot without giving an option to disable, since they maintain a CPU wake lock losing me heavy battery-life.
It is also used to kill processes that are running in the background and not emptying their cache, when my storage memory falls to 15MB due to their heavy cache use (occurs rarely), and so when I need to install some app but it won't install giving me the low memory warning (where emptying cache through App Manager in Settings doesn't work).
Last use is for three buggy apps, one being the Chrome browser, which at times takes my memory down to 5% in use, and after throwing it to low priority through the back button because I need to use another app, won't let go of that memory space for other apps and so many apps start crashing including Sense, and others fail to open complaining of low memory, until I manually kill it. The automated kernel management doesn't suffice here and a task manager is useful here.
Other than that, avoid them like most "cleaners" for Windows with a PC. As someone said, maximizing use of available resources like OS memory is an efficient scheme overall.
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foxmeister said:
It's an intelligent utilization of resources!
Android will keep stuff in memory whilst it can to improve performance, and will start killing things of itself if resources get too low. Note that just because an app is open and "consuming" memory doesn't mean it is consuming CPU cycles and battery power.
Having loads of free memory is actually just a waste of resources.
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mate thanks for clarifying what you, sruon and others have said makes total sense.. so I'll sit back and allow the device to handle ram memory by itself.
Is it just me or is the update running harder? Like I used to be able to run it on fancy graphics easy peasy but now after the 0.4.0 update I LAG on fancy graphics. especially when chopping down a tree... anyone else having this problem?
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Let me explain that on PC (its same). When Minecraft was at 1.3 Beta, the server could handle 50slots and 15plugins. But when Minecraft was at 1.0, it could run only 20slots and 5plugins on SAME machine. That means that they add at new updates new things = more code, and the Play must handle more and more things, which means that FPS gets down. Hope you understand
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Minecraft needs big amounts of ram.
Tested by me:
If you start the game with approx. 60/80 MB of free ram, the game WILL lag. If you kill few apps the game will probably not lag.
Try this - reboot your phone and wait a minute or to for complete boot and for the system to stop loading anything. Then try to play Minecraft. Tell us if it's still laggy.
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Yaa still lagy... I guess the play is a rapidly dieing phone
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Oh shut it, the Play's not dying. Just manage your resources better
I get an occasional "freeze" type lag every now and then that last like a second or 2, other than that it's fine, sometimes it gets slow when I die and try to re get my things because of all the moving items I'm guessing. But over all it's play able and not that bad really.
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I get an occasional "freeze" type lag every now and then that last like a second or 2, other than that it's fine, sometimes it gets slow when I die and try to re get my things because of all the moving items I'm guessing. But over all it's play able and not that bad really.
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same with me just hope that if there is a succesor that its got plenty of ram and memory for apps
i've have AOKP_JB_MR1_Build-6 and its been good.
My only complaint is the ram usage. I know most of you
guys are firm believers in letting the system manage the memory.
I enabled the the ram bar in the apps switcher, and
I constantly have 22 mb of ram out of 654 MB.
My phone constantly feels slow and lags.
When I clear all the apps, and regain Ram
my phone feels speedy, and runs good.
A phone with 1GB of Ram shouldn't be slow
or eat this much ram. Are there bugs or what?
Thanks guys
beniamin said:
i've have AOKP_JB_MR1_Build-6 and its been good.
My only complaint is the ram usage. I know most of you
guys are firm believers in letting the system manage the memory.
I enabled the the ram bar in the apps switcher, and
I constantly have 22 mb of ram out of 654 MB.
My phone constantly feels slow and lags.
When I clear all the apps, and regain Ram
my phone feels speedy, and runs good.
A phone with 1GB of Ram shouldn't be slow
or eat this much ram. Are there bugs or what?
Thanks guys
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@beniamin it doesnt lag for me at all even with high ram usage i got like 4 mb free right now and it runs butter smooth lol fyi -im running it with purity v30 kernel
It's partially an AOKP thing and also a 4.2 thing. AOKP and CM always ate more RAM for me since ICS.
On stock 4.2, ram management is also bad.
Everyone like to say android bla bla bla manages RAM well bla bla bla.
Android manages RAM well IF the core system doesn't rape RAM.
So basically the android uses some ram. And leaves the remaining ram for caching apps all the time. Now when the system runs out ram, the phone will kill an app to free RAM. Sounds good right? Well, the problem is that on 4.2, the system eats up so much RAM that apps don't even get a chance to be cached. And when you switch over to another app the system will kill other apps first then launch your requested app. This whole process takes a long time as the system is now hogging more ram all the time.
The best part is the system will continue to leak more and more ram as uptime increases.
As 4.2 have so many RAM leaks,the only quick solution will be to use a 4.1 rom.
I measure RAM used like this, works pretty well. Go to settings - apps - running. The blue is Android system + services. Services are apps that will not be killed unless absolutely necessary. Gray is not exactly "free RAM". The gray portion is the amount of RAM the system can use for caching purposes. You actually want the gray portion to be as high as possible.
A picture of 4.1 and 4.2 can sum this entire paragraph xD
I use stock 4.1 and 4.2 as comparison as custom roms almost always have higher ram utilisation.
On stock 4.1,
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What's going on?
Linux is borrowing unused memory for disk caching. This makes it looks like you are low on memory, but you are not! Everything is fine!
Why is it doing this?
Disk caching makes the system much faster! There are no downsides, except for confusing newbies. It does not take memory away from applications in any way, ever!
What if I want to run more applications?
If your applications want more memory, they just take back a chunk that the disk cache borrowed. Disk cache can always be given back to applications immediately! You are not low on ram!
Do I need more swap?
No, disk caching only borrows the ram that applications don't currently want. It will not use swap. If applications want more memory, they just take it back from the disk cache. They will not start swapping.
How do I stop Linux from doing this?
You can't disable disk caching. The only reason anyone ever wants to disable disk caching is because they think it takes memory away from their applications, which it doesn't! Disk cache makes applications load faster and run smoother, but it NEVER EVER takes memory away from them! Therefore, there's absolutely no reason to disable it!
Why does top and free say all my ram is used if it isn't?
This is just a misunderstanding of terms. Both you and Linux agree that memory taken by applications is "used", while memory that isn't used for anything is "free".
But what do you call memory that is both used for something and available for applications?
You would call that "free", but Linux calls it "used".
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AOKP and android respect this concept, AOKP use more ram because loading more App ( idk why ) on memory, there's no lag. The system will be more smooth and faster than before, because AOKP don't reload from disk app but "launch" from ram ( ram is alot faster than SSD ).
If this things cause lag, there's some "malformed" app that use resource.
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AOKP and android respect this concept, AOKP use more ram because loading more App ( idk why ) on memory, there's no lag. The system will be more smooth and faster than before, because AOKP don't reload from disk app but "launch" from ram ( ram is alot faster than SSD ).
If this things cause lag, there's some "malformed" app that use resource.
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Doesn't matter what they say, if you feel that there is lag when you are using your phone, then there is lag, no 2 ways around it.
4.1.2 is more fluid than 4.2.2 with the same apps running for me, seems like a memory leak issue on 4.2.2, hopes 4.3 fixes this..
Here is the comparison of AOKP vs AOSP 4.2 ( dark and grey backgrounds accordingly). The setups are 95% identical - same apps, same usage pattern. After some time both needs to rebooted due to memory leaks
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Here is the comparison of AOKP vs AOSP 4.2 ( dark and grey backgrounds accordingly). The setups are 95% identical - same apps, same usage pattern. After some time both needs to rebooted due to memory leaks
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i saw screen, but i don't think there are some memory leak, AOKP team hardly work over to fix them, anyway it's possible, but i used AOKP 4.2 for without any problem, without rebooting for days ( max uptime is 4 days )
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i saw screen, but i don't think there are some memory leak, AOKP team hardly work over to fix them, anyway it's possible, but i used AOKP 4.2 for without any problem, without rebooting for days ( max uptime is 4 days )
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I was talking about memory leaks in Android in general (not AOKP related), and that's definitely the case with 4.2 The screens are for demonstration that AOKP needs more RAM to begin with. If you try most recent PA builds with halo, there you need even more memory. I guess it the price you pay for additional stuff under the hood
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my thoughts about this RAM issues:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/106590215548240805185/posts/MECZP5mqKfJ
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i've have AOKP_JB_MR1_Build-6 and its been good.
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Why are you running an old build? Try updating to the 5/18 build or even Milestone 1 after a full wipe and don't restore any apps until you see if the RAM issue's still there.
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Try to reinstall another rom
Finally!! I thought it was just me. It was same for me on CM,AOKP,PA,AK47, all of them....I dont know why. I have greenify, plus I try to make sure least no. of apps run in background.
Finally switched to stock 4.2.2. Not a big issue now, very very rarely does it go below 80mb. Plus its fairly smooth. Oh well.....
I've never had lag issues with AOKP and ram
Try Using....
beniamin said:
i've have AOKP_JB_MR1_Build-6 and its been good.
My only complaint is the ram usage. I know most of you
guys are firm believers in letting the system manage the memory.
I enabled the the ram bar in the apps switcher, and
I constantly have 22 mb of ram out of 654 MB.
My phone constantly feels slow and lags.
When I clear all the apps, and regain Ram
my phone feels speedy, and runs good.
A phone with 1GB of Ram shouldn't be slow
or eat this much ram. Are there bugs or what?
Thanks guys
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I run Aokp 4.2.2 Milestone Build with Franco Kernel, I was having a pretty similar issue not so much of the lag necessarily but my ram drain was unbelievable, well anyway i was on "Android Police" one day and was reading an article about apps running in background blah blah blah and came across an app recommendation called "GREENIFY" You go threw and hibernate a few if not all the apps that dont have anything to do with the system like Facebook or GMapps, Gmail Etc... and once they are grennifyed they will stay closed no random background data will start app untill you either open that app again or you go back in and ungreenify it, the only downfall (and only to some) is that, say you greenify facebook you will not receive instant notifications from a post or msg etc... Ive been using this for almost three months now, works awesome it remembers all the apps you greenify and will stay every time you reboot your phone,
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I run Aokp 4.2.2 Milestone Build with Franco Kernel, I was having a pretty similar issue not so much of the lag necessarily but my ram drain was unbelievable, well anyway i was on "Android Police" one day and was reading an article about apps running in background blah blah blah and came across an app recommendation called "GREENIFY" You go threw and hibernate a few if not all the apps that dont have anything to do with the system like Facebook or GMapps, Gmail Etc... and once they are grennifyed they will stay closed no random background data will start app untill you either open that app again or you go back in and ungreenify it, the only downfall (and only to some) is that, say you greenify facebook you will not receive instant notifications from a post or msg etc... Ive been using this for almost three months now, works awesome it remembers all the apps you greenify and will stay every time you reboot your phone,
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/02/15/new-app-greenify-keeps-rooted-devices-running-smoothly-by-hibernating-specified-apps-when-theyre-not-in-the-foreground/
Enjoy! Hopefully that helps.
I did fresh install of 4.3 and it runs very nice... well until it runs out of RAM.
I`ve noticed this couple of times that device slows down and when I press home icon there`s nothing on the "desktop" only launcher apps icon and I have to wail couple of seconds while thing loads into memory...
I don`t have many 3rd party apps and have disabled some on the system side.
When problem occurs I can see in Settings that there is only 30-40MB of RAM left.
For an example I was surfing today (system browser) while listening to music with doubletwist music player and doubletwist suddenly stopped playing because it was stopped to free some memory for browser...
Anybody noticed this too?
There is obviously a high memory usage on 4.3. Any advice for this?
I`m running stock unrooted
Sorry for my bad english
ciao sei italiano vero? Cmq io ti consiglierei di aspettare la cyanogen 10.2 è sempre meglio ottimizzata rispetto alla stock, I have the same problem with 4.2.2 but with greenify(app) and lagfix free, is partitially solved, or you can try to set 4 app backgroud in developer option and disable all animation in developer option
ram usage should be fine on stock. on cm10.2 this is the situation after 50 hours of uptime
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shriom_manerker said:
ram usage should be fine on stock. on cm10.2 this is the situation after 50 hours of uptime
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I hope you're not saying that screen shot is an example of fine, you've got basically no memory free.
Memory use in 4.3 is definitely higher. You can pretty much forget about multitasking with Chrome now, as soon as I start using it other apps start getting killed left and right.
pfmiller said:
I hope you're not saying that screen shot is an example of fine, you've got basically no memory free.
Memory use in 4.3 is definitely higher. You can pretty much forget about multitasking with Chrome now, as soon as I start using it other apps start getting killed left and right.
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Think you might have hit on the magic word.... Chrome (or any other browser). On the Xperia forum lots are noticing that browsers (all of which open @ about 40MB ram usage) are just continuing to grow in ram usage, even when not being used, to ridiculous levels (100's of MB)
Maybe you could take a look at individual process ram usage and report back.... Curious to see if there's the same happening on GNexi
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pfmiller said:
I hope you're not saying that screen shot is an example of fine, you've got basically no memory free.
Memory use in 4.3 is definitely higher. You can pretty much forget about multitasking with Chrome now, as soon as I start using it other apps start getting killed left and right.
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what i meant was , it is definitely high on cm10.2 roms but its fine on stock roms and stock based custom roms like catacalysm, the free ram is about 120 mb even after 50 hours of usage but on cm 10.2 and other JSS15J based roms its really crazy and phone runs out of memory
tanasczn said:
You can pretty much forget about multitasking with Chrome now!!!
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Almost all the browsers are facing memory issues.
I use a few other browsers like Dolphin and UC and even they are eating up memory
Especially during downloads, these browsers crossed 170MB RAM usage :cyclops:
You can send feedback to help the devs to help them with this.
But I'm sure they have already started working on these issues.
tanasczn said:
You can pretty much forget about multitasking with Chrome now!!!
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neerajvd said:
Almost all the browsers are facing memory issues.
I use a few other browsers like Dolphin and UC and even they are eating up memory
Especially during downloads, these browsers crossed 170MB RAM usage :cyclops:
You can send feedback to help the devs to help them with this.
But I'm sure they have already started working on these issues.
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So this pretty much confirms what i asked in post #5
Possibly related to DoubleTwist?
For an example I was surfing today (system browser) while listening to music with doubletwist music player and doubletwist suddenly stopped playing because it was stopped to free some memory for browser...
I am running stock rooted 4.1.1 on my toroplus and am only posting here because DoubleTwist (DT) was mentioned in OP. DT must be a memory hog because when I try to stream music with DT over BT simultaneously with Google Nav, DT and Google Nav seem to knock each other out of memory, i.e., sometimes DT will quit while Nav remains running and other times Nav will quit while DT remains running. Bottom line is both apps won't stay running simultaneously for any appreciable length of time.
I then used Poweramp for BT streaming and experienced no such issues, that is, I can listen to music and turn-by-turn nav directions at same time w/o apps killing each other off.
.....uh.... JSS15J isn't a build for the gnex. JWR66Y is.
a manta sent this.
I'm running 4.3 (second update) on a stock galaxy necus ROM (takju) and my free ram nowadays is 18MB
When i restart the phone i get about 350MB of RAM free, which immediately start decreasing as i use the phone until it gets to the 18MB.
I know i ran out of memory when i press the home button and i have to wait for the items to be drawn on the desktop again ... I'm considering flashing back to original 4.3 or 4.2 because of this
Free ram is idle ram... Having free ram means its lazy and not doing anything. High ram usage simply means apps are stored in it... Shouldn't really concern yourself with ram.
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cstrife999 said:
Free ram is idle ram... Having free ram means its lazy and not doing anything. High ram usage simply means apps are stored in it... Shouldn't really concern yourself with ram.
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...but having more idle RAM means you have space for more running background apps, i.e. apps will be less probably closed and cleared out of RAM. If one really runs that many app, the difference of free RAM actually tells.
And my GNex always has ~500MB free RAM (not just after boot!), ready for action.
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cstrife999 said:
Free ram is idle ram... Having free ram means its lazy and not doing anything. High ram usage simply means apps are stored in it... Shouldn't really concern yourself with ram.
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No, the memory is being used up by the system not by apps. The system should use as little memory as possible so that it is available to your apps. Wasted memory is as bad as fee memory, either way it's not being put to proper use.
so basically there's a lot of talk about this,a lot of people with the same problem and no solution whatsoever !?
AndyYan said:
...but having more idle RAM means you have space for more running background apps, i.e. apps will be less probably closed and cleared out of RAM. If one really runs that many app, the difference of free RAM actually tells.
And my GNex always has ~500MB free RAM (not just after boot!), ready for action.
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Can u tell me how u get so much free ram.
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This is my ram usage before and after a game my phone still runs smooth and fast as someone said left over ram is lazy if you have left over ram be great full. Touchwiz always uses alot of ram from my experience
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DaveyRepairs said:
This is my ram usage before and after a game my phone still runs smooth and fast as someone said left over ram is lazy if you have left over ram be great full. Touchwiz always uses alot of ram from my experience
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atishey23 said:
Can u tell me how u get so much free ram.
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Advanced Task Killer Pro (kill ALL apps except Launcher and IME) and Autostarts (ban most auto-start privileges for apps, prevents apps from eating up memory automatically).
Do note that this is not practical for daily use, as this may sacrifice some functionalities (e.g. Bluetooth file transfer function). I don't use my GNex as my primary device so it doesn't matter for me. You can still get ~400MB free RAM if you don't ban privileges related to functionalities.
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DaveyRepairs said:
This is my ram usage before and after a game my phone still runs smooth and fast as someone said left over ram is lazy if you have left over ram be great full. Touchwiz always uses alot of ram from my experience
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...It doesn't look like you have a GNex...
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I wouldn't recommend to use a task killer.
A better solution is Greenify which hibernates the app if it is in background. It's using less RAM when hibernated but it is started pretty fast if needed.
Another solution would be to flash a big memory kernel, or use ZRAM.
You can also try Android 4.4 where the RAM management improved a lot.
Its almost been a week since Android Pie was released for H930...
I have been using it since release... I have observed that RAM Management on this firmware is very bad...Like... Almost impossible....Unable to listen to music and scroll though my mailbox too....
Is anyone else facing this issue..or only specific set of people like me
Although Ram management is also poor in Pixel phones... but..Its not this bad...
Hope anyone finds a solution ?
Some workarounds:
For Non Rooted Users:
thefpspower said:
I found a REALLY WEIRD and really SIMPLE solution for this ACCIDENTALLY.
So just like you guys, I had this issue with ram management, asked around on reddit and stuff, really weird because even when there is enough ram is just doesn't let apps in the background, even lost calls because of it apparently.
Solution: Make a backup using LG Bridge
It sounds weird, but it worked for me. Somehow, after I made a backup with LG Bridge, all my app permissions got reset, so FluidNG for example stopped working out of nowhere and I had to reboot the phone.
After rebooting I gave the apps I wanted the permissions they needed and SOMEHOW that fixed the issue, I can open more than 7 apps in the background with no issue.
Don't ask me how the hell this works, but it did so I'm sharing it here to see if it works for you too. I didn't need to reset the phone at all.
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tech_infinity said:
If you guys are rooted then set zram to around 900 and swapiness to 60. All will be good.
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PS: This will result in faster battery drain.
[email protected] said:
Its almost been a week since Android Pie was released for H930...
I have been using it since release... I have observed that RAM Management on this firmware is very bad...Like... Almost impossible....Unable to listen to music and scroll though my mailbox too....
Is anyone else facing this issue..or only specific set of people like me
Although Ram management is also poor in Pixel phones... but..Its not this bad...
Hope anyone finds a solution ?
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I do not know what this could be caused by. My phone also uses a lot of RAM since the pie update. But: In doing so it is absolutely smooth and very conservative with the battery. I do not experience lags or bad performance.
I came from LiquidRemix and flashed the KDZ. Set up the phone. Then formated it again and flashed the TWRP zip and started over once more because I messed around with deleting system apps too much in the first try.
Koersten said:
I do not know what this could be caused by. My phone also uses a lot of RAM since the pie update. But: In doing so it is absolutely smooth and very conservative with the battery. I do not experience lags or bad performance.
I came from LiquidRemix and flashed the KDZ. Set up the phone. Then formated it again and flashed the TWRP zip and started over once more because I messed around with deleting system apps too much in the first try.
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Performance and Battery is fine for mee too... But when it comes to multi-tasking.... Its almost impossible....
Home launcher gets killed in the background when I open Camera app?
Hm. Ok strange. This works for me. I can open a dozen apps in parallel and switch between them without problems. But I am not a ultra heavy multitasker either
I am facing the same issue currently and it drives me crazy. If I just listen to music on Spotify and browse through my mails, Spotify gets killed. This is a total joke IMHO I will try a factory reset now to see if that helps.
H930 is my model btw.
If it doesn't get better, I will have to go back to a custom ROM I guess.
Yeah bro ram management is very poor. I only get 700mb free ram.
BlueFlame4 said:
I am facing the same issue currently and it drives me crazy. If I just listen to music on Spotify and browse through my mails, Spotify gets killed. This is a total joke IMHO I will try a factory reset now to see if that helps.
H930 is my model btw.
If it doesn't get better, I will have to go back to a custom ROM I guess.
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Literally Same problem here.... And I tried factory reset too...it didn't help...
Poor optimization by LG..
Yep same here. Spootify is killied in the background and switching between cards in samsung or chrome browser causes cards reloading.
trouble. said:
Yeah bro ram management is very poor. I only get 700mb free ram.
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For the record, free RAM is not an indicator of poor management. Modern operating systems like Android use up as much RAM as reasonably possible, as the OS will run faster that way.
I'm not saying that Pie is better/worse... just saying that free RAM is not a good metric. My Oreo phone is running fine with 771 MB free right now... again, this is normal.
schwinn8 said:
For the record, free RAM is not an indicator of poor management. Modern operating systems like Android use up as much RAM as reasonably possible, as the OS will run faster that way.
I'm not saying that Pie is better/worse... just saying that free RAM is not a good metric. My Oreo phone is running fine with 771 MB free right now... again, this is normal.
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You are right, but...
On my 3GB RAM Quark unless I had 1GB free RAM, the phone would lag severely and stop responding well. I could "clear all" Recents to get 1GB RAM back, and it would spring to life.
On both V30 and V30+, on rooted stock Oreo firmware, I consistently have 600MB - 1GB free and have no lags.
However, if it got down to 200MB, would it start acting wonky like the Quark?
Enough people are complaining about it, I'm starting to get concerned. This isn't buggy beta tests any more. Hopefully they'll fix it before they roll out the North American variants.
But see next post. Maybe not RAM, but kernel governor or something?
trouble. said:
Yeah bro ram management is very poor. I only get 700mb free ram.
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I have less than that 700MB free RAM right now on rooted stock Oreo and have no problems. I have 549MB free and my phone is not lagging at all.
So, it's not RAM, maybe it's something else with Pie. Maybe the kernel governor?
ChazzMatt said:
I have less than that right now on rooted stock Oreo and have no problems. I have 549MB free and my phone is not lagging at all.
So, it's not RAM, maybe it's something else with Pie. Maybe the kernel governor?
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That's what I was thinking, that the governor or kernel might even be an issue. First step, can people seeing the problem tell us what governor is activated? Most kernel tools will tell you what you have turned on. CPU-Z tells me that I'm running Interactive... and kernel version is "4.4.78-perf+". Again, this may not be enough info to work from, but it would be a start for looking at least.
Maybe spending some time with our kernel devs would help explain, too, as they'd probably have a better idea of what to look for.
In my case it was extremely bad when I updated using OTA, Messenger would literally get killed while I was typing a message. Performing a fresh install helped to some extent and the phone is usable and running otherwise pretty smoothly now, but still kills background apps much quicker than on Oreo. (edit) just tested, taking a picture in the stock camera app closes the app launcher (Nova).
H930, Interactive, 4.4.153-perf+
ChazzMatt said:
Enough people are complaining about it, I'm starting to get concerned. This isn't buggy beta tests any more. Hopefully they'll fix it before they roll out the North American variants.
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I could have sworn I read an XDA article that Pie had RAM management issues.
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BROKEN1981 said:
I could have sworn I read an XDA article that Pie had RAM management issues.
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Maybe it does. But it's just the RAM available people are complaining about on Pie is the same RAM or more than we have on Oreo...
And I have no lags on US998 Oreo with less than 600MB RAM. So, wondering if it's CPU Governor or something.
tepalas said:
In my case it was extremely bad when I updated using OTA, Messenger would literally get killed while I was typing a message. Performing a fresh install helped to some extent and the phone is usable and running otherwise pretty smoothly now, but still kills background apps much quicker than on Oreo. (edit) just tested, taking a picture in the stock camera app closes the app launcher (Nova).
H930, Interactive, 4.4.153-perf+
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I also wonder if the update process is not done well. In other words, I might suggest trying a factory reset and starting from scratch again? I know updating across a large OS change can often cause problems... I've seen this happen on other devices...
schwinn8 said:
I also wonder if the update process is not done well. In other words, I might suggest trying a factory reset and starting from scratch again? I know updating across a large OS change can often cause problems... I've seen this happen on other devices...
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I tried installing the ROM from scratch with "Refurbish" option on LGUP and did not restore any backup. Same thing. I think LG just rushed this update too fast.
Oreo keeps all the apps I mostly use, about 10-15 of them, in RAM indefinitely. Pie just can't keep anything running in th background.
I check governor and its interactive, I think its the same i oreo?
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Dizzyrul3z said:
I check governor and its interactive, I think its the same i oreo?
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Yep...Same as oreo..
btw...I have tried all the governor... all same... in terms of RAM Management... nothing improves
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[email protected] said:
Yep...Same as oreo..
btw...I have tried all the governor... all same... in terms of RAM Management... nothing improves
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...k-pie-t3954653
Flash this pie kernel and see if things become better