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After praising the tp2 for nearly two weeks now I have decided I will return it to MPD.
I paid 457 for this phone and I will except nothing less than 100 percent perfection in terms of build quality.
After 2 weeks use I have to following problems:
- The sceen travel before it hits the lcd in the centre of the screen had increased rapidly and I can now notice a significant change between sensitivity at the edges and the centre (about 1-2mm).
- The sliding mechanism has got easier which is good, but the movement of the screen is about 7mm when at full tilt, where as it was minimal at best when I received it.
Im not writing this as a sob story; I have a genuine worry that these could be very common problems and yet im unsure at the chances of returniing it for a replacement - hoping it wont have the same problems
Mine went back I had it one day, They called me when they received it and then acitoned a refund. The Touch Pro 2 is a terrible built device for something that cost's half a grand.
I have gone back to the Touch HD but really miss the keyboard oh well at least my device isn't going to fall apart. My partners device was perfect and now after a month of use it is now wobblying when you touch the screen and slider is so loose.
sorry you need to mail the webshop and wait for your reply sometimes they reply quick other days they take a while to reply. It will get worse get it replaced or refunded is my advice.
had two deviced now and sent both back. i cross my fingers the third onw will be without any isues. think MANY bad manufactured devices are out there
on my 4th so far and not 100% happy, wobble in the screen when tilted. Very bad design from HTC, poor build quality.
wobble in the screen would not be such a big problem for me i never tilit the screen. hope ill get a device with no other problems next time.
i cant understand why they built this useless tilt feature into the slider the slider could be much more "robust" without this tilit mechanism.
Say it ain't so....
How common are these screen issues that you guys are mentioning, the wobble and such? These issues that you folks are bringing up are starting to worry me, and what worries me even more is that some of you went through 3 or 4 of the TP2s already, leading me to believe that these problems are more widespread than I'd like. I've been anticipating this phone's arrival since February and I really hope that these issues aren't so common that it turns the TP2 into a total let-down instead of the great device that all this hype is leading me to believe. If at all possible could you guys please post updates on your situations?
thanks, and I hope all works out well for you guys.
What do you mean by a wobble? Is the screen itself deformed or are the letters/pictures deformed on the display?
Maybe you can post a picture or something?
I hardly ever use the Tilt feature. When I first heard about it I thought it was brilliant, still looks cool, but it isn't comfortable to work with ...
the wobble issue is discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524641
some people are worried about the screen wobbles a little bit when its tilt like in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6A5v-DR1A8
i think this is ok if it is not too much.
BUT i had two devices with a problem similar to this video and thats absolute not ok for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObBGt40hYg
the screen wobble isnt such a big problem for me, it makes it easier to slide out flat.
my problem is with the flex on the touchscreen. it feels like you push down on one plastic layer which then hits the lcd behind, making it less sensitive in the centre than the edges where i dont have this problem.
i think there is nothing to do. this is the "touch" in touch screen. it has to be little bit flexible to react to your input. dont compare it to the iphone thats a nother technique.
or do you mean something else?
Hi lhwparis
real glad you posted those videos of the wobble. I was beginning to think it was something quite serious, but i see that kind of bounce in most tiltable systems. So not so worried now.
Has anyone done a poll yet of how many people have a phone that does this? strange that its not the same with everyones.
what do you mean with "bounce"? video 1 or the beginning of video 2.
i think the wobble when screen is tilt is normal on most phones (only some without wobble) and thats not a great problem. the second video with the gap between the display and the phone in closed position is a realy great problem for me.
yes i did watch both, i guess im refrerring to the wobble, whilst its open.
perhaps the bounce whilst its closed is not so normal, although again im not sure how much of gap would be a source of concern.
I've got to be honest here. I am one of the fussiest people in the world when it comes to gadgets, but I think there is a lot of over-reaction about the "wobble" issue. The mechanism which allows the screen to tilt will have some "play" in it - otherwise you'd never be able to slide the keyboard out. The same "play" is what means that there is a gap between keyboard and screen - and this will be larger on the side nearest the power button, and it will give a little when you push on this side of the device, as the two halves are held together by the hinge at the opposite edge. It's unavoidable - even if your device doesn't do this from new, I can pretty much guarantee that it will do so within a few weeks. If the hinge is actually loose - so the screen doesn't stay put where you leave it, or if the slider mechanism works without you wanting it to, then you have a problem - but small gaps and small amounts of play in the mechanism are not only normal; they are what prevents damage from operating the mechanism.
"Give" near the centre of a large touchscreen is also pretty common - it's difficult to get the touchscreen to lay perfectly flat, as it is only secured at the edges. Again, there will be a degree of variation between samples, but this is another thing that will change with time. It also quite often varies with air pressure - if you take any touchscreen device (other than the iPhone, which uses a different principle) up in an aircraft, the touchscreen will frequently bulge out more from the screen due to the reduced ambient pressure and the small amount of air trapped under the touchscreen.
I really think that some of you are getting a little too over-stressed about this - 99% of these devices are fine. Leaving aside anything else, these will all have been tested in the factory, and mechanical function of the screen hinges and touchscreen will have been tested on every device before it was packed.
still, its disturbing to hear how many people are getting differences in their build quality. perhaps this is why tmobile uk are not going to be launching the device?
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i think there is nothing to do. this is the "touch" in touch screen. it has to be little bit flexible to react to your input. dont compare it to the iphone thats a nother technique.
or do you mean something else?
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The flexibility in the hinge is nothing to do with the resistiveness of the screen. Regardless of the screen, there should not be this amount of flex in the hinge.
what a load a rubbish.............if any of you fusspots owned a tytn 2 you probably would have nightmares. too much fussing over a wobble which is manditory to avoid sudden harsh impacts and decrease tension on the ribbon that goes from the board to the screen. the screen when tiltled was not actually done so we can sit there wobbling it. in fact no one actually needs to wobble the phone. the phone is sturdy when in full tilt then it works. imagine people actually sitting there wobbling the thing. what do you think will happen? it will loosen...........the wobble is not a feature of the phone but for safety and longevity of the moving parts of the phone. if you don't like the phone then don't buy it. if the screen had no wobble i'd be reading whole new thread of how it should. obviously this phone willl not please everyone and so those moaning about wobble should not buy the phone! obviously there will be some faulty handsets but needing 4 handsets should tell you that maybe it ain't the phone but actually you with the issue. it amazes me how people always find one thing negative to focus on but forget all and i mean all the positive aspects of this phone. what wobble?????????? touch HD which i do own has nothing on tp2 so thats a backward step! this is a phone not a tennis racket
no you are right, but the gap has got bigger in the middle since when i first got it, and comparing it to my friends HD the gap is far greater. There is barely any travel when it comes to the edges, and I see no difference of why this couldnt be the same for the centre.
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what a load a rubbish.............if any of you fusspots owned a tytn 2 you probably would have nightmares. too much fussing over a wobble which is manditory to avoid sudden harsh impacts and decrease tension on the ribbon that goes from the board to the screen. the screen when tiltled was not actually done so we can sit there wobbling it. in fact no one actually needs to wobble the phone. the phone is sturdy when in full tilt then it works. imagine people actually sitting there wobbling the thing. what do you think will happen? it will loosen...........the wobble is not a feature of the phone but for safety and longevity of the moving parts of the phone. if you don't like the phone then don't buy it. if the screen had no wobble i'd be reading whole new thread of how it should. obviously this phone willl not please everyone and so those moaning about wobble should not buy the phone! obviously there will be some faulty handsets but needing 4 handsets should tell you that maybe it ain't the phone but actually you with the issue. it amazes me how people always find one thing negative to focus on but forget all and i mean all the positive aspects of this phone. what wobble?????????? touch HD which i do own has nothing on tp2 so thats a backward step! this is a phone not a tennis racket.
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i said that wobble is normal in all posts before but i sent back my two devices because of the issue shown in this video (at the beginning):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObBGt40hYg
so you want to tell me its normal that i can lift of the screen more than 5mm in closed position?
my friend has a TP2 too and he cant lift of the screen from device and there is nearly no gap!
shure2 said:
After praising the tp2 for nearly two weeks now I have decided I will return it to MPD.
I paid 457 for this phone and I will except nothing less than 100 percent perfection in terms of build quality.
After 2 weeks use I have to following problems:
- The sceen travel before it hits the lcd in the centre of the screen had increased rapidly and I can now notice a significant change between sensitivity at the edges and the centre (about 1-2mm).
- The sliding mechanism has got easier which is good, but the movement of the screen is about 7mm when at full tilt, where as it was minimal at best when I received it.
Im not writing this as a sob story; I have a genuine worry that these could be very common problems and yet im unsure at the chances of returniing it for a replacement - hoping it wont have the same problems
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Good luck..
The screen went really weird on mine, colours all messed up so on. Emailed mpd, which of course they didn't answer in a timely fashion so I phoned them to which they refused to help me over the phone and told me to email.
Half a day later I get a reply refusing to take it back as I've had it for over seven days and to send it to Regeneris or whoever they're called so I did that. The idiots at MPD failed to realise Regeneris wont' repair these phones, and then forward it on to HTC .. which of course it bizarrely taken them three days to do so.
Apparently now HTC have had it a week, and I've been bugged Regeneris every day, and the answer is the same .. "We've not heard anything, but I'll email them again" Either they've not emailed them as promised or HTCs customer service is evern worse than MPDs.
I've now been without my TP2 for over two weeks, with no sign of getting back and needless to say I'm pissed off!
Trying to get the word out here for all who have been affected by their defective glass breaking.
I want to mention that I am NOT the creator of this petition I am nearly passing information on after I found it during a Google search.
http://www.change.org/petitions/spr...laxy-s3-s-that-have-defective-gorilla-glass-2
I haven't had an issue with broken glass. I've even dropped my Galaxy S from above pocket height on concrete without glass breaking. I do not expect my Galaxy S3 would fair as well. I was happy to sign your petition and here is what I wrote in the comments:
"Shouldn't even be called "Gorilla Glass" if it breaks this easily. A phone this expensive should have a more durable design, it should at least be able to withstand a drop from "pocket" height a few times before the glass breaks. The warranty should be improved, or, the repair should be dropped below $50."
I very seriously doubt thst even if every GS3 owner signed, they would do anything for us.
My hope is that they will at least take this into consideration for future devices.
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DocHoliday77 said:
I very seriously doubt thst rven if evrry GS3 owner signed, they would do anything for us.
My hope is that they will at least take this into consideration for future devices.
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You may be right but it NEVER hurts to try and who knows, like everything else in this day and age, if it gets enough attention of the "press" we may be in business to pressure the Korean Giant to do something about it!!
I don't consider it defective if it breaks on a drop, I consider it a fragile design.
What I do consider defective, is the habit of the displays to have black pixels visible if you have a black background w/ nothing on it and a very dark room. That however, seems to be an accepted fact of these displays....by several forum posters and Samsung.
Spidey01 said:
I don't consider it defective if it breaks on a drop, I consider it a fragile design.
What I do consider defective, is the habit of the displays to have black pixels visible if you have a black background w/ nothing on it and a very dark room. That however, seems to be an accepted fact of these displays....by several forum posters and Samsung.
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Let's say a defective design. MOBILE phones should be designed to hold up to the harsh environments they are produced to work in. That is environments that are ever changing, MOVEMENT, unlike for example an old corded phone where you are mostly stationary and it is not required to take out of your pocket... Engineers should be thinking of durability rather then how elegant or lightweight they can make it. The Iphone 5 (pains me to say this) takes a sh*t load of abuse and holds up extremely well. Samsung could not have taken durability into the equation when making this phone and I am sure they have their own drop test in the labs... I think they should be ashamed of themselves and I believe it is highway robbery what they have done to the supporters of their product.
This phone wasn't designed for an Army man fast ropping off a helo, it designed for Joe & Jane Blow. And not with sister Dee Dee flinging it around in mind.
My fiancee's S2 is Chuck Norris, it doesn't hit things, it dares them to get in the way.
My S3 is like an iPhone, when I drop it, I will hold my breath until I see the result.
You are right, they should be ashamed of themselves. They degraded the durability of the phone, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's do to the whole make the phone body very un iPhone 4 like. But I also know, if defective design was a legit problem, the daily wtf would not have so much posting material. People design things and we just hope not to be pissed on by it. It's not defective if it works as intended, and how do we know that Sammy didn't want it this way in order to make more money on screen repair or as a deal with some case makers?
I'm just glad that my phone hasn't taken any damage...even after dropping it and Milky Way slamming into an open dresser drawer and than dangling by the USB cable plugged into my computer. No case. If it had hit a corner instead of the business end...well, fml!
Spidey01 said:
This phone wasn't designed for an Army man fast ropping off a helo, it designed for Joe & Jane Blow. And not with sister Dee Dee flinging it around in mind.
My fiancee's S2 is Chuck Norris, it doesn't hit things, it dares them to get in the way.
My S3 is like an iPhone, when I drop it, I will hold my breath until I see the result.
You are right, they should be ashamed of themselves. They degraded the durability of the phone, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's do to the whole make the phone body very un iPhone 4 like. But I also know, if defective design was a legit problem, the daily wtf would not have so much posting material. People design things and we just hope not to be pissed on by it. It's not defective if it works as intended, and how do we know that Sammy didn't want it this way in order to make more money on screen repair or as a deal with some case makers?
I'm just glad that my phone hasn't taken any damage...even after dropping it and Milky Way slamming into an open dresser drawer and than dangling by the USB cable plugged into my computer. No case. If it had hit a corner instead of the business end...well, fml!
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LMAO that is some funny stuff and agreed, especially on them making money off the screen repair...
All i can say is you are one lucky dude!! Watch those corners!!!!
Does this include scratching? I normally take really good care of my phones and even in doing so I have two hairline scratches which I have no idea how they even got there. I hate screen protectors and now I'm forced to use one just to cover the scratches
afbengochea said:
Does this include scratching? I normally take really good care of my phones and even in doing so I have two hairline scratches which I have no idea how they even got there. I hate screen protectors and now I'm forced to use one just to cover the scratches
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Well Gorilla Glass is supposed to reduce scratching but this petition is for breaking only. You can still help out the cause and sign it. :laugh:
Gorilla Glass is only scratch resistent. What we need is a glass that's like Vibranium. And twice as cool as in a shield.
Glass breaks, it's a fact. Gorilla Glass only protects against scratches. And Obama doesn't care about your phone.
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How about don't drop ur 600 dollar phone? Lol!
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I love this thing!
jjlean said:
How about don't drop ur 600 dollar phone? Lol!
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I love this thing!
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That's helpful. Thanks for the advise.
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I personally don't blame the glass. I blame the bezel. If you look closely at your phone you will notice that the screen is slightly raised from the edges. This causes corner and edge drops to impact on the edge of the glass(weakest point for any type of glass) whereas other device the screen is in a little from the bezel. So when dropped the bezel curls and affects the surface of the glass(much stronger than the edge) that's why they break so easily.
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elesbb said:
I personally don't blame the glass. I blame the bezel. If you look closely at your phone you will notice that the screen is slightly raised from the edges. This causes corner and edge drops to impact on the edge of the glass(weakest point for any type of glass) whereas other device the screen is in a little from the bezel. So when dropped the bezel curls and affects the surface of the glass(much stronger than the edge) that's why they break so easily.
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Precisley!
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Wow! Digging the new "Recognized Contributor" Doc!
Back on topic, I'm signing for sure.
Guys, a few things I would like to comment on. Firstly I am a "veteran" corporate frontline T-Mobile employee. I usually sell the highest volume phones in my store and sometimes my region, and as the S3 being my third most phone that I sell, I can tell you that I personally have only returned two devices for defects and none thus far for cracked LCD's (including insurance claims). Now that is not saying obviously that it doesn’t happen, I’m just saying that I PERSONALLY have not seen it.
Secondly, these phones have built-in impact zones that Samsung engineered into them. lol, how they work is beyond me, so I won't pretend I understand, I just know they are there in the event of a drop to reduce the impulse felt by the device and its inerts.
Also, I personally have dropped my S3 at least seven times with which half of those times were on concrete. I also do not use any kind of case nor do I have screen protectors on it. It is Au Naturale! Knock on wood, my phone doesn’t even have a scratch on it.
edit: Not tryig to sound like a narcissist, but giving you background info to show you that I come across and move a lot of these devices on a daily basis.
You better knock hard lol... I promise you I dropped my phone from less then 12 inches and it shattered. Again it's not the glass it is the frame that gives way and pushes into the glass, then the glass has nowhere to go but to fracture. It is the most vulnerable area of the glass. Thanks for sharing.
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Maybe Tmobile is aware of this thats why they are adding Asurion Premium Handset Protection extended warranties to people's bills without their authorization. Im being facetious.
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Anyone else have a problem with the screen not being assembled correctly?
If I swipe down from the top left for notifications, it's smooth going from the metal to the glass. But if I swipe down from the top right to do the quick settings, there's a noticeable gap. Or not really gap, but the screen sits higher than the metal. Friggin annoying as hell, considering how much I go to the quick settings. This and the notification light not working are already making me reconsider buying this thing....
I had that issue and T-Mobile gave me a new one. Manufacturered 4/9. I've yet tried to S-OFF.
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Cool, I'll call them and see if I can swap it out. Does your notification light work?
E30Nova said:
Anyone else have a problem with the screen not being assembled correctly?
If I swipe down from the top left for notifications, it's smooth going from the metal to the glass. But if I swipe down from the top right to do the quick settings, there's a noticeable gap. Or not really gap, but the screen sits higher than the metal. Friggin annoying as hell, considering how much I go to the quick settings. This and the notification light not working are already making me reconsider buying this thing....
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I've returned two to T-Mobile for the same problem and a few other issues. The 3rd one I got is much better, still not 100%, but it's fine... At this early point in the game, I'm starting to think that you have to be super lucky to get one that is perfectly smooth and flush.
I have seen some people say that a screen protector will solve the problem or at least make it better, could always try that.
I know that with every first batch or so of a new device, there will be some duds... but man, seems more people than usual having issues related to build quality on this phone. It's an expensive device and HTC is marketing it as a "premium" device - if you're not happy with the build, by all means, go exchange it.
mine had the same problem. I did exchange it for a new one it's a little better. but now I know why samsung don't want to make a metal device.
Wow, I wonder how many people have this problem...
Like @aimfire72 said, with this being touted as a premium device with the whole "zero gap" design, you'd expect it to be assembled a little better... I'll probably be taking it back to T-Mobile tomorrow and hopefully the one I get is better.
I feel like I have been lucky. I have had no issues with the screen or speakers.
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Yeah same **** here this is very annoying
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My speaker grills are maybe MAYBE a human hairs width higher than the screen. We wound up with 4 lines, and all got the m8, and some of the other ones have more noticeable differences in height, but none of the other people using them have said anything, and I don't think they really care. I think that's something we often lose sight of, is that for most people that's just something they don't even think of. Sure, it would be nice if it was perfect on every device, but as long as it's within tolerance and the grills aren't popping up like some people have had, most people won't probably notice or care.
In any case, compared to my M7, the height difference is MUCH improved. My screen was decently higher than the top speaker grill, and that annoyed me as I always felt it when I swiped down the notification bar, but I got used to it and with a screen protector it just blended in to that bump.
Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
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To me
-HTC is better screen, but thats a preference in what you like.
-S7Edge screen can be fix with a case, I got the Ringke fusion clear case and I dont hit buttons inadvertently when I type anymore.
-The edge can be turn off.
-If you dont like the edge, get the regular S7 with exynos processor.
The only reason that people may tell you to get the HTC 10 is because they think touchwiz is still slow. Boomsound speaker is another reason to switch however, you can get dual facing speaker with the S7 edge just look at my video I posted a few days ago.
Ultimately this is what it come down to:
HTC 10
HTC blink feed
Metal
Boomsound speaker
Samsung
All glass design
enormous S7 edge battery
IP68 water proof
dual speaker (only on exynos phone)
The screen is up for grabs but if you like amoled then Samsung is the way for you.
I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.
I'm kind of in the same boat. I actually have both the S7 and the HTC 10 on my desk right now. There are a lot of things that I like about each one, but I'm torn between which to keep.
S7 Pros
- 5x5 app grid
- Volume and power buttons on the opposite sides of the phone
- Headphone jack at the bottom
- Quick settings accessible with one swipe
- FM radio
HTC 10 Pros
- Faster fingerprint reader
- "Capacitive" home button
- Cleaner Sense interface
- BoomSound
- Finally good camera
I like that the S7 is a little smaller and easier to manage with one hand, and Touchwiz seems to be a lot more refined. I think that HTC actually pared Sense back a little too much with the 10. There's not a lot of Sense left, but they kept the 4x4 app grid, which I really can't stand. On a 5.2" screen, it's really a total waste of space, and from what I can tell, the only way to fix that is to install a custom ROM, which I don't want to do until I'm sure I want to keep it. I'm also struggling because I feel like my S7 may have a defective display. The whites are kind of off and whenever I angle the phone slightly off center, the display gets a blue tint to it. I've never had an AMOLED display before, so I don't know if this is just how they are, or I have a bad one.
Any advice?
exxi said:
Hey friends,
I'm holding an HTC 10 in my hands right now after I had the s7e briefly for a couple of days a month ago I decided to take it back and wait for the HTC 10.
Finally I got mine 4 days ago and I have mixed feelings about it. Obviously the s7 edge is better in the display, battery and camera department. The main reason why I returned the s7e is the stupid edged screen which I found irritating to handle and I didn't like how the display curves around the edges and cuts of text in some apps. The bending of light around the edges also irritated me.
The HTC 10 is one great device and I love the decide in general except for a few minor points. The camera is not as quick.
Still I find myself somehow tempted to switch back to the s7e but I am afraid I'll regret it again... Ohhhh ocd.
Maybe you can give me some good reasons why you chose the HTC over the s7e?
Thanks!
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If you liked the S7e but hated the edges, why not just get the S7 and be done with it? You're in an htc section so you're going to get biased opinions.
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I'm hoping BestBuy gets some unlocked HTC 10s in soon or I'll have to grab a Galaxy.
The number one reason I want an HTC 10 over a GS7 is build quality. The all glass construction of the GS7 is a disaster waiting to happen.
I've read far to many horror stories, not to mention all the drop videos, showing what happens when they hit the ground, even carpet.
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thats what a case is for. are you going to carry your HTC naked?
I drop my S7E once or twice about 4-5ft with a ringke fusion clear case and no damage at all.
I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.
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I always use a case.
Just stating what I've learned from some research. There is also a topic in the GS7 forum concerning the camera glass cracking out of nowhere.
Regardless, I don't want to spend $700 on a device and worry about the entire phone shattering. Worrying about the screen on phones is enough.
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if you use a case then how is it gonna crack?
thats like saying regardless if you have a case on the HTC 10 or not its gonna dent or scratch if you drop it. doesnt make sense.
A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.
Updates are important to me. Camera is second but it's okay. The HTC camera isn't very good IMO. And when I say "isn't good" I mean not a convenient camera. It takes great shots and what not but there's no oleophobic coating on the lens so smudges affect the image more. It's just unreliable for me for the auto photographer like me.
Battery could be better but for me it could be an app draining it.
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Sammae7 said:
A case will protect metal from scratching/denting much better than it will against glass breaking. Glass is far more fragile.
Last winter I slipped with my phone in my hand. My phone slammed into the ground and the case slipped off one corner. It left a scuff mark on my phone. The GS7 would have shattered. Case or not, it's simply more fragile due to its build material.
I'm not calling it a bad device, just a fragile one, like the all glass IPhone before it.
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the problem lies in that you have a crappy case, not that the glass breaks and you have a case.
yes its fragile material, but if you have a case I dont see how it will break. that being said, I always own the Ringke fusion minimal clear case, drop my phone (S6, note 5 and S7 edge) several time, nothing happen. granted the HTC 10 wont shatter but it'll leave a dent or it'll scratch and it'll be a sore eye regardless.
Dude....if you have second thoughts about it, just return it already. Grown ups do not ask these childish question.
Hey,
I have been a Note fan since the very beginning and a foldable with spen support has been a device of my dreams. When the Fold 3 was released I decided to go for it and give my Note 20 Ultra a break. The fold isn't perfect especially with such a small battery but as an exynos user the battery has always been a thing to compromise in my region. But,
The reports about the screen being so fragile and getting cracked in concerning numbers have halted me from getting this expensive piece of tech. I am aware of the cracking issues with the earlier folds but the reports about this third generation looks really concerning.
Are the cases that high? or is it just the usual (defective patch) in any product?
Think of it this way, no one will post about how their screen is fine and not cracked, but people will be inclined to post when their screen is shattered and broken. If every person with a screen that wasn't cracked would post theirs, it would far surpass the cracked screen numbers. I have had mine since 22nd of October and I have not had one issue, not one cracked screen. I recommend it as it's the best phone 2021 could bring.
Had mine since the early pre-order time. No screen crack or break, but I have a Spigen hard case on it. I've dropped it a few times, but have been uber lucky it wasn't anything that cause damage. One has to look at the cause of the damage before assuming it's a defect of the product.
Not sure what reports you have read, but I've yet to see an influx of cracked screens from general everyday use. Plus, many of use early birds have coverage for damage.
No issues here.
I have to wonder though, if the phone was left in a car overnight with below zero temps and then unfolded cold. What would happen? Has anyone been brave enough to try? ;-)
I have had mine since shortly after release and I use it... and I mean USE it...
I use the outer screen for many quick things, but I spent over 75% of my time opening and using the inner screen. I have a Fold SPen and use it constantly and I am STILL on the original factory inner screen protector and have ZERO issues with any bubbling, cracking or anything else on the device screen or the protector.
Just take some care of your device and it will take care of you.
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
ghassan haddad said:
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
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My case has a hinge cover, but many have issue with the phone not lying flat.
ghassan haddad said:
is there a way to cover the hinges so nothing gets inside? Like some case
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There are some cars that specifically cover the hinge I believe. I think Samsung even has their own. But they seem so bulky and awkward.
NONE of the cases that I have seen or used or played with have a Hinge Cover that will protect from Dust/Water intrusion. Just not going to happen. Sorry mate.
I've had my Fold 3 since a couple of days before release day and use the inner screen 99.99% of the time, all day long. No issues here. I clean the dust and fingerprints (which you can barely see and don't cause the rainbow effect) with a reusable screen cloth from Amazon with a koala on it - bought it for my car stereo screen, but there are a ton in the pack, so I use them for different things.
Not only the operation of the phone in cold weather exasperating this issue but maybe also a combination of pressing on the screen with a finger to close the phone..
Plasticisers are a limited lifespan. They are what makes plastics flexible. As they fail, cracking is the result. With a close to a near 180° the engineering is less than brilliant. Made with a very finite lifespan in mind.
The Fold series is an even more niche market than the Notes. Like an inept gambler Samsung don't know when to run away. By shoving the prototype Fold down the throats of its loyal Note customer base Samsung deserves what they get... idiots.
sorry, blackhawk.. do you have one of these?? best phone ever lol.
if the stock protector fail, replacements are easy
Ya been a Note User since the first one .. after going Fold 3 I can never go back... love the screen .. really better battery, cameras, I'd like a micro SD slot again and for thr s pen to go into the phone and it would be perfect...
As for the screen cracking mine has not but the built in screen protector has peeled up so I peeled off ... all good so far.. but if you get this phone usually it's on a 24 month contract then you swap phones to 2 gens later. Also I'd assume everyone would get the insurance for the screen replacement etc... so if that's done you just send it in for any screen issues .
akhentamentiu said:
sorry, blackhawk.. do you have one of these?? best phone ever lol.
if the stock protector fail, replacements are easy
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No, blackhawk just likes bagging it as far as I can tell.
Best. Phone. Ever. For me, anyway.
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Ya been a Note User since the first one .. after going Fold 3 I can never go back... love the screen .. really better battery, cameras, I'd like a micro SD slot again and for thr s pen to go into the phone and it would be perfect...
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I loved the note, from the very first, and my note 12 pro tablet. Now that I'm retired and don't need the spen I love the fold. It's like carrying a tablet in your pocket everywhere.
I can't wait until they actually get the whole 'Z' folding thing working, to triple the size
What I find funny is all the people bagging the idea of the Fold, alongside all the companies trying to make one themselves. I'm pretty sure Apple will sell one in five years, well behind the curve as usual while claiming to be ahead as usual.
Ha ha yes exactly apple will bring a foldable out when samsung goes to the next design for foldable.. I also like that sliding screen they might out put out ... I'd rather the than the folding but for now beggars can't be choosers lol
it's interesting that no one here had a bad experience while a similar thread on reddit is full of (cracked) displays
ghassan haddad said:
it's interesting that no one here had a bad experience while a similar thread on reddit is full of (cracked) displays
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Link? (or it didn't happen )