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[COMP] HTC Desire vs Incredible

The Incredible will be released soon in the US - around 2 weeks.
Rumoured specifications seem better than the Desire, eg 8MP camera
I don't know if it will work in the EU and given its imminent release, I'm surprised the Incredible doesnt have its own sub-forum.
Anyone know what the deal is with the HTC Incredible and why there isn't more interest at XDA?

1 - Its CDMA (Verizon).
2 - Very little is known about it (maybe 1 or 2 pictures).
3 - Since it's CDMA and none of the international carriers are selling it, once again not a lot is known.
Those are just my ideas (WTF do I know?). Give it some time. Once it hits, people will start talking.

All Day On XDA said:
The Incredible will be released soon in the US - around 2 weeks.
Rumoured specifications seem better than the Desire, eg 8MP camera
I don't know if it will work in the EU and given its imminent release, I'm surprised the Incredible doesnt have its own sub-forum.
Anyone know what the deal is with the HTC Incredible and why there isn't more interest at XDA?
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XDA is more a development site for phones that are already released. Once released (April 6th my uneducated guess) there will be more interest. There is more info at other sites, I will PM you the address

Hey thanks,
I'll paste the info from your link for interested others too..
Confirmed:
1 Ghz Snapdragon processor (QSD8650) (245 Mhz at idle)
RAM - 512 MB (320 usable...like N1...more to become available with OS update)
ROM - 512MB flash + 8GB moviNANDe
8 MP camera (Dual flash and AF)
Android 2.1
Sense UI (w/ Friendstream)
Optical track pad (vs. "ball")
3.7 inch screen
WVGA resolution
AMOLED
1300 MaH battery
FM Tuner
802.11 b/g
Dimensions: 117.5 mm (L) x 58.5 mm (w) x 11.9 mm (T)
No 720p recording
No multitouch BUG as found in N1

All Day On XDA said:
Hey thanks,
I'll paste the info from your link for interested others too..
Confirmed:
1 Ghz Snapdragon processor (QSD8650) (245 Mhz at idle)
RAM - 512 MB (320 usable...like N1...more to become available with OS update)
ROM - 512MB flash + 8GB moviNANDe
8 MP camera (Dual flash and AF)
Android 2.1
Sense UI (w/ Friendstream)
Optical track pad (vs. "ball")
3.7 inch screen
WVGA resolution
AMOLED
1300 MaH battery
FM Tuner
802.11 b/g
Dimensions: 117.5 mm (L) x 58.5 mm (w) x 11.9 mm (T)
No 720p recording
No multitouch BUG as found in N1
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the Desire have more RAM (576 MB) and better battery (1400 mAh), and also the desire is rumored to have 720p recording, the camera is a boost to the incredible
multitouch bug is not a big issue IMO

All Day On XDA said:
Hey thanks,
I'll paste the info from your link for interested others too..
Confirmed:
1 Ghz Snapdragon processor (QSD8650) (245 Mhz at idle)
RAM - 512 MB (320 usable...like N1...more to become available with OS update)
ROM - 512MB flash + 8GB moviNANDe
8 MP camera (Dual flash and AF)
Android 2.1
Sense UI (w/ Friendstream)
Optical track pad (vs. "ball")
3.7 inch screen
WVGA resolution
AMOLED
1300 MaH battery
FM Tuner
802.11 b/g
Dimensions: 117.5 mm (L) x 58.5 mm (w) x 11.9 mm (T)
No 720p recording
No multitouch BUG as found in N1
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its processr is underclocked to 728 not 1ghz

hoss_n2 said:
its processr is underclocked to 728 not 1ghz
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No, that's actually been debunked.

I didn't like the original images that were leaked but the new images with more detail paints it in a different light. I also didn't like the low ram specs that were initially released but it seems that has be corrected. I may get one. I'm getting tired waiting for the desire.

CaptainJager said:
XDA is more a development site for phones that are already released. Once released (April 6th my uneducated guess) there will be more interest. There is more info at other sites, I will PM you the address
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Well, the Desire isn't actually released yet either, yet here we are Or is it?

[Q] Is it possible to port Android 2.4 from HTC DesirE S to old HTC Desire??

Here the news from MWC:HTC will sell it's new Desire series which named "DesirE S" running ADROID 2.4,so is it possible to port 2.4 to old DESIRE???

Depends on the Hardware and if the Drivers can be patched to work with the Desire.

same snap dragon processor, slighty more RAM, i dont think its much different compared to the htc desire HD

dont rush it guys lol

the new launcher and apps looks greeat

superliam said:
same snap dragon processor, slighty more RAM, i dont think its much different compared to the htc desire HD
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Its not the same. Desire S has the same with Desire HD

HTC Desire
1 GHz Snapdragon QSD8250 CPU
512 MB ROM
576 MB RAM
5MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire HD
1 GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
768 MB ROM
1,5 GB RAM
8MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire S
1GHz Snapdragon MSM825 CPU
768MB ROM
1.1GB RAM
5MP camera
VGA front-facing camera
So, when it is possible to build ROMs based on the HD then it also must be possible to build ROMs based on the S. But the problem is maybe that here someone has to convert the new android AND new sense version to the Bravo.

Yep,these detail parameters result that we,desire users can ported from new DesirE S ANDROID V2.4,It's only time business I think......
JeffreyLI
Elim said:
HTC Desire
1 GHz Snapdragon QSD8250 CPU
512 MB ROM
576 MB RAM
5MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire HD
1 GHz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
768 MB ROM
1,5 GB RAM
8MP camera
No front camera
HTC Desire S
1GHz Snapdragon MSM825 CPU
768MB ROM
1.1GB RAM
5MP camera
VGA front-facing camera
So, when it is possible to build ROMs based on the HD then it also must be possible to build ROMs based on the S. But the problem is maybe that here someone has to convert the new android AND new sense version to the Bravo.
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JeffreyLI & XyLIna
From my HTC DesirE™

I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.

From this point of view,has google released a new OEM adroid numbered 2.4?or 2.4 android is only referenced HTC sense upgration by HTC?
NeoPlex said:
I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
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JeffreyLI & XyLIna
From my HTC DesirE™

official from HTC... so with Sense. information comes from a journalist at MWC...

NeoPlex said:
I have interesting information...Android 2.4 for HTC Desire, DHD, Desire Z and Incredible S in summer... allegedly official information.
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Not very interesting when already known in other threads on here

jeffreyljb said:
From this point of view, has google released a new OEM adroid numbered 2.4?
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Not now, but it will be come in March or April.

Elim said:
Not now, but it will be come in March or April.
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S'already released to HTC though, otherwise they wouldn't be able to back Sense on it, and as they showed at Barcelona their device was already running 2.4

Official Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0

Greetings to all! The other day there was news! In the network be leaked the new OFFICIAL ROM for the HTC Desire S based on Android 2.3.5 with HTC Sense 3.0. Accordingly, HTC Sense 3.0 does not need to optimize and change resolution... Are there any advantages in this for our wonderful HTC HD2?
Link to threat Desire S is HERE

I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you

dungphp said:
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
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no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?

LENINred said:
no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
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We can use it but better if we have RUU file, because it's stock file so Sir dungphp can port directly from it, don't need permission from anyone.

so mabe start do this guys))

Link
Sure you guys are quicker than me in finding stuff, but, here you go anyway:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
my bad, not the same rom, sorry, lol.

this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it

Daekin said:
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
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Good deal, look forward to seeing what comes of it.

Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468

Tigermoto said:
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
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yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)

Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.

Tigermoto said:
So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
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there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.

Daekin said:
there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
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Appreciate the information, thanks button pressed.
No further questions your honour.

Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.

Clom801 said:
I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
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lol
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)

Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
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hmm... its snapdragon -)))

The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design

Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.

SlayrNeo said:
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
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Nope you cannot flash a Desire S ROM to your HD2, that would never work. The ROM would need to be ported for our device first. I would imagine that someone is working on porting this for us...but we will need to wait and see...or start porting it ourselves.

pixine786 said:
The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
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Don't be confused by Wiki.
Snapdragon CPU includes two processors, one is application processor and another is modem processor.
When we talk about the whole CPU, I think the name Snapdragon is more proper than Scorpion.
Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/MsmChipsets
Most HTC devices have at their core Qualcomm System-on-Chip (SoC) Mobile Station Modem (MSM) integrated circuits. These are based on Advanced RISC Machines Ltd. (ARM) micro-processor and supporting systems designs. In most Smart Phone devices the SoC consists of two ARM micro-processors, one to manage the communications hardware (radio transmitters) and the other to manage the user applications and interface. These are generally known as the modem (or radio or baseband) processor and the applications (or apps) processor. These processors may not be identical since their functions are different.
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Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/ProcComm
Processor Communications (an implementation of Inter Processor Communications - IPC) on Qualcomm System-on-Chip devices that have a privileged modem (a.k.a. baseband or radio) processor and less privileged applications processor is via shared memory and interrupts.
Devices based on the Qualcomm MSM and QSD SoC designs also use the Qualcomm-provided modem operating system REX and the Advanced Mobile Subscriber Service (AMSS) application running on the privileged processor - usually an ARM9 design.
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HTC G1 Dream Roms

Why cannot we use HTC G1 Dream Android Sense roms when our HTC Diamond specs matches 98-99%

Sorry I know this is an old thread but i want to make it clear for all users why it cannot be done. (well, it could, but let me explain)
The 2.0 sense ports to the g1 are slow ( except a few ports)
There is a resolution difference, and everything will look screwed up if it the port is running.
The sense ports to g1 are originally from other devices such as HTC hero or legend.
So far, without nand Android, sense will be slow even if you have a lot of ram or high overclock.
Possible devices that you could port Android sense from include HTC wildire, HTC tattoo, and basically any device with 320x480 resolution. Our devices have higher resolution and that contributes to the slowness of Android also... If you are feeling lazy, you can use any rom from the htc wildfire section and use that as a base
I hope that makes it clear to those asking the same question
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I have a doubt,how can 320x480 resolution can support(you mentioned) our 480x640 VGA resolution??? Because if 240x320 cant support it then how can 320x480 support our device!!!

[Q] HTC One V [vs] HTC Desire VC

So I'm planning to buy a new phone. And this time I've decided on HTC. But I can't choose between HTC Desire VC or the HTC One V. Which one is better? Both have similar specs but the HTC Desire VC is priced little higher which is not the problem. I'm not able to decide which one to buy. Need some expert recommendations!
This will also happen to be my first Android experience.

hmmm.. i love my one v.. the looks the feel the thin body.. chin posture.. u can't get in desire vc... if ur a gamer then u must go with desire... s rich looking phone is obviously one v
Sent from my One V

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Hey man my opinion is one v is little better than desire vc but desire x is best
Sent from my HTC One V using xda app-developers app

Desire X : Chipset Qualcomm MSM8225 Snapdragon, CPU Dual-core 1 GHz, GPU Adreno 203.
Desire VC : Chipset Qualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon, CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A5, GPU Adreno 200.
One V : Chipset Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon, CPU 1 GHz, GPU Adreno 205.
So what do you want to do with your device?
For gaming, One V is better than the other two...

theiNDrAs said:
Desire X : Chipset Qualcomm MSM8225 Snapdragon, CPU Dual-core 1 GHz, GPU Adreno 203.
Desire VC : Chipset Qualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon, CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A5, GPU Adreno 200.
One V : Chipset Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon, CPU 1 GHz, GPU Adreno 205.
So what do you want to do with your device?
For gaming, One V is better than the other two...
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Thanks for the comparison up there. The One V has a single core processor yet it is better for gaming? How?
This will be my first Android phone, I'll generally use the phone for applications and few games. Not hardcore gaming like Shadowgun etc, but maybe Real Racing 2 kinda stuff.
Moreover I want a phone that is eligible for a Jelly Bean update in the future. I'm not sure if the HTC Desire V/VC is eligble for an update yet. I don't want to be stuck with a phone that can't be updated from ICS.
Also What do you guys think about the Samsung Galaxy S Advance? In comparison to the HTC One V and Desire V/VC

dibyajyoti said:
Thanks for the comparison up there. The One V has a single core processor yet it is better for gaming? How?
This will be my first Android phone, I'll generally use the phone for applications and few games. Not hardcore gaming like Shadowgun etc, but maybe Real Racing 2 kinda stuff.
Moreover I want a phone that is eligible for a Jelly Bean update in the future. I'm not sure if the HTC Desire V/VC is eligble for an update yet. I don't want to be stuck with a phone that can't be updated from ICS.
Also What do you guys think about the Samsung Galaxy S Advance? In comparison to the HTC One V and Desire V/VC
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Look at the graphics, Adreno 205 > Adreno 203 > Adreno 200

Moved to Q&A. Please ask all questions there.

Best Mobile Phone for my Budget
Hey guys,
I want to buy a mobile phone. I have chosen 3 models. But I don't know which one is better. Would you please help me for choosing the best (with reasons)?
1. HTC One V
2. HTC Desire S
3. Sony Xperia Sola
Thanks in advance

heidelberge said:
Hey guys,
I want to buy a mobile phone. I have chosen 3 models. But I don't know which one is better. Would you please help me for choosing the best (with reasons)?
1. HTC One V
2. HTC Desire S
3. Sony Xperia Sola
Thanks in advance
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Go for HTC One V

ONE V
I would consider the One V any day.
Better design, sleeker, better QUALITY (SLCD 2) Display, better processor, better GPU, better recording (HD vs WVGA). And last but not the least.. Chin. :laugh: :good:

One V because now moving on JB, the importance of a better GPU in Android world will become more and more mandatory.

one v is not very good for gaming..well, for games like temple run and angry birds etc it works fine. if anyone wants to play games like blood and glory and frontline commando, custom firmware must be installed; on stock its just slow and laggy. phone warms up very much while playing games and using the internet. when u get a one v,its true potential should be unlocked by rooting,then gaming is more fun.i have experimented o much with my one v, it has not once posed a problem... love my one v.....