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should i get the GN / G2X?

i could get a like new G2X for 350 with an extended 1980 battery for $350
or a brand new galaxy nexus for 650 + tax
what would you guys get?
i really want the galaxy nexus but theres some things i don't like about it like no gorilla glass and the speakers not that loud, but theres major pluses but ill be basically paying twice as much than the g2x
what should i do so confused

I wouldn't touch an LG phone. Ick.

Speakers: Volume+ and set it to +8.... Volume fixed.
Gorilla Glass: meh. it has some kind of protection on the glass, unsure whats the name but keys dont scratch it apparently.
Long term speaking. Galaxy Nexus will be a good development device.

I work at tmo and I would get the G2X over samsung anything. To be completely honest tho HTC all the way even a sensation would rock. Still my favorite phone even after I bought the amaze
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neoissuperman said:
I work at tmo and I would get the G2X over samsung anything. To be completely honest tho HTC all the way even a sensation would rock. Still my favorite phone even after I bought the amaze
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And that's why you're using a Sidekick 4G right?
Stock Android experience + updates directly from Google is the best way to go to. Not to mention the amazing display that Samsung always offers. People always complain about Samsung phones are all plasticy.
Its plastic but it's built very durable and can survive falls a lot better than these other phones. It's also lighter, vivid and vibrant display that will make you be impressed in a heartbeat.

I really hope this was a trick question. If i were you i will not EVEN look/touch/think about the G2x. All i will tell you is do your research on that phone. In fact i will say get the Sensation/GII. Even if someone gives me a G2x right now i will not even touch it. So if getting the remaining dollar to get the GN is an issue then get then seriously look at the Sensation OR GII.
PS: in the long run you will want the GN.

Yeah fool. I have SEVERAL phones!
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Wow, samsung lovers present and acounted 4.... Lol i was just trying to take the pain and restocking fee's out of your life but hey, i only rock every phone that comes out. What do i know that the FANBOY'S don't. Bet the same samsung lovers would jump at an IPHONE if it would run hsdpa.... Ok i am done, on with your missleadings.
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zephiK said:
And that's why you're using a Sidekick 4G right?
Stock Android experience + updates directly from Google is the best way to go to. Not to mention the amazing display that Samsung always offers. People always complain about Samsung phones are all plasticy.
Its plastic but it's built very durable and can survive falls a lot better than these other phones. It's also lighter, vivid and vibrant display that will make you be impressed in a heartbeat.
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Oh, my. Amazing display? Yeah for blind people. Low resolution, forner cutting short the consumer, SUPER AMOLED.... samsung will always short the customer. " People always complain about Samsung phones are all plasticy " no it's because it IS plasticy GARBAGE! THE AMAZING DISPLAY is a overly backlit low res cheap way out to be the LARGEST smartphone screen. Lol done
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neoissuperman said:
Wow, samsung lovers present and acounted 4.... Lol i was just trying to take the pain and restocking fee's out of your life but hey, i only rock every phone that comes out. What do i know that the FANBOY'S don't. Bet the same samsung lovers would jump at an IPHONE if it would run hsdpa.... Ok i am done, on with your missleadings.
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No ones a fanboy. We just simply love the "Pure Google Experience." I'll be honest about being a fanboy about Samsung's displays, they're gorgeous
It all depends on the person. If you're the person that wants the latest and newest version of Android. Galaxy Nexus will do you well, you can counter-argue this by talking about custom ROMs and all that. But you know what? it's up to the manufacturer of the phone to provide a 3.X.X version of the kernel. Without that, you are limiting development for that particular phone.

zephiK said:
No ones a fanboy. We just simply love the "Pure Google Experience." I'll be honest about being a fanboy about Samsung's displays, they're gorgeous
It all depends on the person. If you're the person that wants the latest and newest version of Android. Galaxy Nexus will do you well, you can counter-argue this by talking about custom ROMs and all that. But you know what? it's up to the manufacturer of the phone to provide a 3.X.X version of the kernel. Without that, you are limiting development for that particular phone.
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All i can say is WOW you don't know what you are talking about. G2X is way closer to a GOOGLE ANDROID experience. I can't even beleive i am sticking up for LG anything except that the new mytouch is awesome even tho all thoughts were a bit scary, turned out to be a very nice device. After 2 updates on G2X i have not been able to freeze it up since. I give up. By what he says then if your in phoenix i'll gladly override your restock so you can get something other than touchwiz.
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I have a g2x and just got the nexus. Get the nexus! I payed $690 and no regrets here.
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I'd say if your keeping it for awhile GN. I wanted my Atrix for the hardware, knowing software is going to be replaced ... multiple times ... a week. I wanted to play with webtop, fingerprint scanner, etc. Now I have BU of ROM w/Linux & Chrome for the lapdock days, CM7 reading my fingerprints, and miui which I'm running now. The only thing that catches my eye is the GN ONLY because of the Nexus part. It's a personal choice. I wouldn't really wanna touch Samsung with LG's d!ck. Hardware means HTC or Motorola for me. I keep my phones and though they're both great beasts, there's only one button - less beast
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I'd say if your keeping it for awhile GN. I wanted my Atrix for the hardware, knowing software is going to be replaced ... multiple times ... a week. I wanted to play with webtop, fingerprint scanner, etc. Now I have BU of ROM w/Linux & Chrome for the lapdock days, CM7 reading my fingerprints, and miui which I'm running now. The only thing that catches my eye is the GN ONLY because of the Nexus part. It's a personal choice. I wouldn't really wanna touch Samsung with LG's d!ck. Hardware means HTC or Motorola for me. I keep my phones and though they're both great beasts, there's only one button - less beast
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I agree with you on the nexus part. HTC owns, but the nexus line only exist's because samsung holds out. I really do not prefer either option but based on what i have tested the answer is G2X even tho it was a nightmare before gingerbread, the phone is solid now. Add CM to it and wow!
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Anyone here getting a Nexus 4?

$300 Unlocked
Qualcomm Snapdragon(TM) S4 Pro
2GB RAM
Android 4.2
Software from Google.
hell, when my contract with T Mobile expire on Jan I'll just drop them and get this baby.
LG made, kinda not excited, but for $300 this thing sounds like a steal. But comparing this with $600 for SGS 3 or Note II, the choice if obvious.
Edit: The lack of microSD sucks. But I can live with it (probably)

Hmm, I was hoping for an HTC One X+, but this sounds more exciting.

I looked at this- I would rather have a microSD slot, otherwise, it looks like fun. For the price, it's a fair consideration for a Nexus device. In full disclosure, I did just buy a Relay 4G- it's still unopened in the box.
However, I am planning on getting a Nexus 10, even without the microSD.

I thinking about it. For the Specs and that price its hard to past.
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Honestly it depends on how development for the Relay goes over the next 6 months lol.
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The developers at xda are awesome and I will still be a frequent visitor no matter what. But having a Nexus phone from Google might mean that I don't have to play with my phone to make it work anymore.
To be honest, I use my smartphone mostly to make phone calls (unbelievable, isn't it?) and read news.

Jep. I'm totally getting one.
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Yuuupp. I stopped using the keyboard on my G2 like a year ago cause it was too slow. No more moving parts for me.
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350 off contract is too good to turn down Imo. Gonna wait a few weeks for initial responses, but as long as those are good I am in.
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I plan on getting one in December when my ETF decreases, then jumping on Straight Talk!

I am getting one, can't wait !
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I'll be getting my wife and I one. Especially with the TMo subsidy. We're mid-contract on our Classic Plan anyway.

heybobitsme said:
I'll be getting my wife and I one. Especially with the TMo subsidy. We're mid-contract on our Classic Plan anyway.
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Man, why're you getting it on contract for $200 while off-contract it's only $350?
I am turning my Classic Plan to Value Plan, cost $20 less per month. That will pay for the price difference in 8 months and save me $250 over the next 2 years.

Does anyone know the downside of a non removable battery? People keep mentioning it as a problem but I don't get it.
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02S said:
Does anyone know the downside of a non removable battery? People keep mentioning it as a problem but I don't get it.
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you can have more than one battery.... if its stuck in the fone once its flat its useless

Another negative about a non removable battery is if something is hanging your phone you can't pull the battery. I kind of like the looks of the phone but no sd card slot? Kinda odd. Coming up on my upgrade in december and I may have to go into tmobile and play with one and see about getting it so long as the mod community is there. Anyone here bought a phone off contract from google before? If so how was the experiance?
Sent from my G2 running the random rom of the day.

There are two screws visible on the bottom of the casing, so although we haven't seen a full teardown yet, I get the feeling it's not going to be hard to replace the battery if necessary.
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Ill be gettin one the day it comes out. hopefully anyways. The vision is nice and have loved it. But when my gf has the one s and I can zip through anything on her phone without it slowing down and havin my tranformer prime to play with all the time just makes me use my phone for nothing when I used to use it for everything. I just want moar power!! G2 is still the best phone I've ever used thou
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I have come to accept the fact that the G3 is not coming. If I have to go without a physical keyboard then getting a Nexus device is the next best thing. That said, I can get this off contract, and if Tmobile gets a high end phone with a physical keyboard in a year or so I can get back on contract to get it.

alarmdude9 said:
Another negative about a non removable battery is if something is hanging your phone you can't pull the battery. I kind of like the looks of the phone but no sd card slot? Kinda odd. Coming up on my upgrade in december and I may have to go into tmobile and play with one and see about getting it so long as the mod community is there. Anyone here bought a phone off contract from google before? If so how was the experiance?
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You never need to do a battery pull. Read up on how to hard shut off devices without removable batteries (like all tablets).
Every single device I've ever bought has been off contract and buying from Google is just like any other. My Nexus 7 is great, but while my Samsung Galaxy S III isn't Google, I run the exact same rom on it as I do on my n7. It was also quicker/easier to root and install a custom rom on my sgs3, plus it has 80gb internal storage (16gb+64gb, am using 42gb of that space as of this post) vs the extremely limited space on my n7.
There are more accessories for the sgs3 than the n7 and development wise roughly the same roms (maybe more if you count touchwiz).
Granted my sgs3 on Android 4.1.2 has a bug my nexus 7 doesn't have (which doesn't affect me), but still those possibilities are important to consider.
I guess my point is that passing on a non Google device for a nexus really isn't that obvious (to me anyway). I have more storage, faster network speeds, a removable battery (multiple ones even), and greater accessory selection. I use the same rom for both devices and both are unlocked and off contract. However, and this is a big deal for some people, I paid probably $200 more for my sgs3 than I would for the nexus 4.
Always consider the potential developer community but more importantly consider the manufacturer and the phone itself. Personally I've never had a good experience with LG hardware in the past, so if I were considering the n4 I would have to see tests and testimonials of people using it in real world situations, but there are some things that scare me just from what's been put out there already.
How fragile is that glass back? The one on the Optimus G broke within days on a reviewer who babied his device and had no idea how it happened.
Can the wireless charging work with a case? I know all phones with inductive charging currently can't..
Lastly, how bad on the battery is that new screen of theirs? The Optimus G (same screen) got a lot of criticism for its bad battery life and excessive screen drain. Without the ability to swap batteries I can see it being a deal breaker for some.
Those are just my personal thoughts and opinions based on the 5 android devices I've owned though. Time will ultimately tell.
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Quitting on this phone

I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!

You can unlock it.

samsungepicgeek said:
I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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You were here? I thought presence was required before saying "goodbye"? Glad you shared your useless thoughts.

samsungepicgeek said:
I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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So, SamsungEpicGuy looked at our phone. Then he said that nothing Samsung has is better at the moment but some time in 2013 he is going to be rocking a phone that is better than this one.
Seriously, where is the moderator at? We have Question in the General Section. We have general comments in the development section. Now we have trolls wanting things that don't exist.

Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Good effort getting 5 replies in an hour, but could troll harder (mention no microSD slot maybe), 3 stars

Kchitown1977 said:
Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".

kc_exactly said:
Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".
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I hear. I ain't gonna hate on the rangers..... We still all brothers in arms
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The bootloader was unlocked....Read development.
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Poor guy, by the time the S4 comes out there will be something "better" from LG or HTC etc.... he's probably waiting on the iphone 8 lol
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Need help making a choice...
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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I would honestly stay away from the Evo 4G LTE. I was a pre-order coming off an OG EVO. Sense 4 is way over aggressive on task killing and the stock mail apk would not translate html from my work exchange server , so I got lines of code. The phone also has very poor performance picking up lte signal. Deck's cm10 made the phone much better (Deck is the only saving grace in my opinion).
Sprint switched me into the S3 last week, and I picked up a lgog off Craigslist for cheap. I think both of these phones are superior to the Evo 4Gm lte . I do like the Evo 4G lte display though.

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.

Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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Your name is samsungepicgeek, you sure you got a life??
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Lurien said:
I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.
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My first smart phone was the Evo 4G. It was mind blowingly awesome. Like I literally loved everything about it, except for the top mounted power button that felt extremely cheap, and they continued that with the Evo 3D. Why HTC keeps thinking the top is the best place for the unlock/power button is beyond me...I'm so happy that it's on the side with the OG. I ended up with a 3D cause I shattered the screen on my 4G and they sent me one through insurance. After two years with HTC, I hate Sense and I'm just ready to move on. I'm not really brand biased, so I was open to LG. I had a LG Shine years back and I absolutely loved that phone. Even without a buzzing dev community it's still a great phone. I think you'll be very happy here though

New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
JP

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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What's done is done. Welcome back!
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joao2307 said:
New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
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Sounds like we had a similar update path. I went from the original Evo 4G to the Epic 4G Touch(which I sadly dropped in my soup at a sushi restaurant, phone still kind of works, btw, but the charging light won't turn off) and am now also on the Optimus G. With that being said, here's what you will miss:
1. The super saturated Super AMOLED Plus display. It will take time for your eyes and brain to adjust to normal color temperatures so don't let that put you off.
2. Samsung's Smart alarm. If you don't know what it is though, then you won't miss it, but it was a built in alarm function that would wake you gently to nature sounds. I missed it horribly...at first...until I downloaded Alarm Clock Xtreme and a $0.99 nature sounds album from Amazon.
3. Getting used to not having a microSD card slot.
4. Removable battery...not a huge deal since the Optimus G battery is much larger capacity, but I did have the stock battery on my Epic 4G Touch swell before I got the battery replaced, hopefully that won't be an issue with the Optimus "non-removable" battery.
5. Not going to lie, the camera on the Epic is better. With that being said, You may want to look into Camera ZoomFX for the time being as the Optimus has an issue with locking in autofocus, losing it and locking in again....even when you touch to focus. The aforementioned app doesn't appear to have that problem so it's believed to be a problem in LG's camera software, not necessarily the hardware.
With that being said, here's what you'll gain:
1. Quite possibly one of the best LCD displays out at the moment(excepting the Droid DNAs freakishly high pixel count). 720P movies look amazing on the Optimus G.
2. 50GB box.com account. Just download it from the play store directly from the phone and they will make 50 GB available to you for free. You can then download it on your Epic and use it to easily transfer files from one phone to another wirelessly as well as using it on your computer as well.
3. I never did the ICS update on my Epic as I was rooted, so maybe this wasn't an issue, but ICS no longer separates app storage partitions so the full amount of formatted memory on the phone is available to be used for app store.
4. 2 GB of ram(I guess in truth you're gaining one since the Epic had 1GB).
5. If you have an MHL adaptor for your Epic, rest assured knowing it will work with the Optimus G, unlike the GS3 and Note 2 where Samsung broke with traditional MHL compatibility forcing you to buy their overpriced MHL adaptor.
6. Working GPS. I dare you to download GPS test on the Epic and then the Optimus when you receive it and go outside and see how long they take to get a lock and how many satellites the phones are actually connecting to. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. My Epic would never connect to more than a handful at a time and had accuracy ranges measured in tens of yards. The Optimus G connects magnitudes faster and to more satellites with an average accuracy of 10 feet as far as I've observed.
7. Build quality to put Samsung to shame. Co-worker of mine got the GS3 about the same time I got my Optimus and for 14 days, he really had to convince himself he was ok with the subjectively chintzy feeling of the GS3 in comparison to the solid construction of the Optimus(he came from an original Evo as well so weight and solidity were what he was used to).
8. Less tangible, but the hope is that since this phone is a near clone of the Nexus 4, there should be plenty of development on it and since LG is in the Nexus program now, hopefully Jellybean will follow in short order.
9. Effective radios. I already mentioned GPS, but I've found wifi to be much stronger with this phone as is 3G(I won't compare 4G since they use different technologies). In one of the other posts someone posted the FCC measurements and this phone is right up there with the Motorola Photon(Moto usually seems to design some of the most effective radios out there so that's high praise).
10. Last but not least, his beast of a processor. The Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core with the Adreno 320 GPU. Quadrant scores in the mid to high 7000 range are now within your grasp(for what it's worth...bragging rights, maybe). With that being said, the phone behaves like it's on steroids. Nothing slows it down.
Welcome to the group!

Back with Samsung after 2 years with HTC

After two years with my EVO 4G (OG) it was starting to have some hiccups here and there. Mostly because of the power surges that came into my house and fried out 11 250 joule surge protectors, an LED TV, 2 FiOS STB's, the FiOS D-Mark, and a microwave. Charging my phone during the last strike from my local electric company had caused it to start running strangely. Or at least that is my theory.
Well, I decided I needed a new phone. I was lucky enough that I was due for an upgrade, so off to Best Buy I went. I was seriously toying with the idea of getting an SG3. My brother in law has one, as well as my wife's cousins. I thought it was a great phone and light years ahead of the EVO. Don't get me wrong, my EVO has served me phenomenally, but I wanted something nicer. I have 2 Epic 4Gs in my house, wife and son, plus I have had the Fascinate, the Moment and the Transform, so I know Samsung makes some great devices.
I walk into the Mobile center in Best Buy and gravitate towards the Sprint table and started looking at the SG3. There was nothing that really jumped out at me and there were no more HTC phones in the lineup. Sad, but never a deal breaker. Then I see it, the Galaxy Note II. I pick it up and it feels very comfortable in my hand. I am a big guy so I feel like an iPhone get's lost in my hand and this was the Goldilocks phone. Now for the moment of truth. Do they have the Titanium in stock? My EVO is white and so is my iPhone. The Note in white was just too much white. And not the cool Stormtrooper white with black accents like my EVO has, but pure stark white. That wouldn't do. The sales person approached and asked me if I needed help. I told him I wanted the GN2 in Titanium and he gave me an ashen look. He mentioned that they were on national back order, but he would look anyway. Lo and behold, he pulls out, according to him, the last Titanium GN2 in the country.
Everything goes swimmingly. They have the phone advertised for $299 for an upgrade, but I had seen it in Radio Shack for $199. I never thought to take a picture of the ad before I went to BB, but oh well. I told the new salesperson that was helping I would come back to get the $100 credit. She said she had a lot of luck beating Amazon Wireless' prices. She pulled up the site and I was able to get the Note for $199. Score! She got me up and activated in about 10 mins and I was out the door with my new toy.
Now, I swore to myself that I would test drive it for a week or two before rooting at and throwing a custom ROM. Too bad that lasted about 5 mins. I was able to root it even after doing the MA7 update. I am currently a lab rat because I actually like the stock TouchWiz. That may change but for the moment I like the Team Nocturnal ROM (great job guys!!) Battery life on this is insane!!! I charged it to full last night and took it off at about 10PM. I use it as a white noise generator and forgot to set the sleep timer, so it was going from midnight until I woke up at 7AM and I still had 90% battery. Awesome!!
I will probably spend most of my work day playing and tweaking it.

Hi there, another ex-HTC-Alphabet-Soup-User. And welcome
Lots of ex-EVO4G users in here. :victory:

Skripka said:
Hi there, another ex-HTC-Alphabet-Soup-User. And welcome
Lots of ex-EVO4G users in here. :victory:
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It is scary how many of us there are here . HTC hasc really taking a dive Thanks to this phone.. I know myself I am very happy with the Jump.
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Skripka said:
Hi there, another ex-HTC-Alphabet-Soup-User. And welcome
Lots of ex-EVO4G users in here. :victory:
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That may change if HTC comes out with something better, but the Note is a great device. Now to start really playing with it. :highfive:

Glad you found your way to lab rats! Feel free to post in our thread
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What method did you use for ROOT?
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...Don't get me wrong, my EVO has served me phenomenally, but I wanted something nicer...
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Same boat here, DIE HARD EVO OG supporter. Phone still rocks, although requires some tweaking. I'm on my way to Sprint store this afternoon. What method did you use for root?

thats one hell of a post just to say you got a note 2. i think that everyone should do that. it would make the forums a super great place to get info about who has the note 2. i think we should just give up on developing and just announce ourselves. to me it just seems like a better use of bandwidth. i dont know. i wish i could just read welcome posts all day. :veryfun: :sarcasm:

Welcome to the team :thumbup: I come from all three generations of the evo. Its so nice to be able to root your phone without all the hastle. I wouldn't go back to htc even after seeing the htc one. Also, Samsung and Sprint have been doing an awesome job of upgrading their phones. I'll be waiting on the Note 3.
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Talos4 said:
Same boat here, DIE HARD EVO OG supporter. Phone still rocks, although requires some tweaking. I'm on my way to Sprint store this afternoon. What method did you use for root?
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I used MSKip's Galaxy Note II Toolkit Ver. 3.0. It was super-easy. It will still root even if you updated to 4.1.2 (MA7) I was rooted in under 5 minutes. (Excellent job MSKip!! :good: )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957155

mexiking713 said:
Welcome to the team :thumbup: I come from all three generations of the evo. Its so nice to be able to root your phone without all the hastle. I wouldn't go back to htc even after seeing the htc one. Also, Samsung and Sprint have been doing an awesome job of upgrading their phones. I'll be waiting on the Note 3.
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I got all 3 generations of Evos sitting on my desk right now too. I am not going back to HTC after buying the Note 2. Samsung just does the software so much better. Like why on my evo with 16gb of internal storage do I have to move my apps between a 2gb app partition and a 8gb internal partition
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cherylbaker said:
It is scary how many of us there are here . HTC hasc really taking a dive Thanks to this phone.. I know myself I am very happy with the Jump.
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Hey, I remember seeing u on the elte forums.. I jumped to the note 2, which I never thought I'd do, and 2 weeks later im still ecstatic!! I can definitely say Sammy has me hooked on some odin. So much better than having to brick my phone for root!! Thank u sammy..
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I also cone from a evo 4g. As a matter of fact, I bought the 3d for my wife and another 4g for my mom to use. Same deal here, 4g just want cutting it anymore and the note had been out for a little bit on sprint. So I got it and it's crazy impressive. The weight and the feel of it at first compared to htc devices wad misleading at first, but a good case and some time with it had made me a fan of Samsung.
My buddy at work has the htc dna and it feels like you could beat someone with it, but that's pretty much where the advantages end. This is the way to go. Fast, responsive, uses a stylus like the good old Palm days, and the battery life is amazing.
I've been with htc since the mogul days and have been a big fan of theirs, but always had to buy the extended batteries. I think the stock battery will do for this phone.
Samsung note ii

I also came from HTC. The HTC Desire HD. It was a great device.
You've got to love the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 though. :good:

An ex evo user myself. Welcome to the club....you made the right choice
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Liked my Evo 3D for 2 years. Loving the Note II for 3 months! :highfive:

I had the og evo and the 3vo and after the locked bootloader BS and htcs backpedaling on opening up to development, I abandoned them and boycotted them. I won't buy any more HTC products, especially after them threatening lawsuits for ppl hosting RUUs and modified sense roms. They have become too applesque for my taste. Samsung has been good about ease of access for development (unlocked bootloaders and easy to root, just implemented a simple custom flash counter) and releasing source almost at the same time an OTA starts being pushed.
I like to break stuff!

I too have come from using all htc phones (mogul, tp2, and evo4g) and I must say this is one heck if a phone. Love everything about it. The battery lasts me as long as the batteries from all my htc phones combined. Everyonw that I have showed it too have been amazed by it..
Cant get enough of this phone

Also a ex evolte user made the jump the days ago this phone is off the chain I honestly feel like I may go my entire contact with this one!
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Would you buy another Optimus

LG Optimus G2
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/05/07/lg-optimus-g2-sprint-snapdragon-800/

Really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267155
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264621
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Really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267155
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264621
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Brush up on your reading skills.
I'm asking current owners IF they'd buy another Optimus.
And why or why not.

I wouldn't buy the G2, because it'll be way too soon for me to buy a new phone, but when my upgrade rolls around I'll certainly consider another Optimus phone. So far I've had the Optimus S and the Optimus G, two fantastic phones. The S can actually run jellybean fairly smoothly, it's amazing.

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Brush up on your reading skills.
I'm asking current owners IF they'd buy another Optimus.
And why or why not.
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I would buy another optimus and this is a fairly decent upgrade, however, I will still wait a year. Right now, my two favorite companies are HTC and LG. They make high quality, innovative stuff.
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I just sold my optimus G to get the HTC One and I'm very happy with my decision but that being said I would still buy another optimus. I was so happy with my purchase of the optimus G and wouldnt have given it up if it werent for me getting such a great deal on the HTC one. $30.
LG came from dirt phone after dirt phone and surprised us all with the optimus G. Surprised everyone and did it with style. All anyone could talk about was galaxy s3 this evo lte that, razr, one x, ect. Then this phone came out. Sh!t all over the compition and even mocked samsung with their "4" billboard. The ONLY thing keeping this device from being any more popular is the fact that they have fail so many times before with previous devices.
Now coming out with a device to compete with the note series and another G to keep up with the one and s4 even though they don't have to. The optimus G is still just as good as the high end phones coming out today. They are doing this to keep their name fresh and to hopefully one day soon give people more of a choice when going to upgrade rather than depending on the reps to push their stuff.
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I just sold my optimus G to get the HTC One and I'm very happy with my decision but that being said I would still buy another optimus. I was so happy with my purchase of the optimus G and wouldnt have given it up if it werent for me getting such a great deal on the HTC one. $30.
LG came from dirt phone after dirt phone and surprised us all with the optimus G. Surprised everyone and did it with style. All anyone could talk about was galaxy s3 this evo lte that, razr, one x, ect. Then this phone came out. Sh!t all over the compition and even mocked samsung with their "4" billboard. The ONLY thing keeping this device from being any more popular is the fact that they have fail so many times before with previous devices.
Now coming out with a device to compete with the note series and another G to keep up with the one and s4 even though they don't have to. The optimus G is still just as good as the high end phones coming out today. They are doing this to keep their name fresh and to hopefully one day soon give people more of a choice when going to upgrade rather than depending on the reps to push their stuff.
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LG could be the next Samsung. Before the s1, they made crap devices, such as the moment. The s1 and s2 were good, but not a household name. Then comes the s3 and its incessant advertising and people think that just because they advertise that it's the best phone, so since HTC is a smaller company, and has a lower budget, they are getting screwed despite having higher quality products. Oh how the tables have turned since the evo. No one had heard of a galaxy, it wasn't even offered as that on carriers. The only phones sprint advertised were the evo line, until the s3.
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No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.

pdelacr2 said:
No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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I knew we would see this answer...
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No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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yeah 100 roms based on the same stock deodexed rom is real development :good:

Well..I've only had this phone since this Friday but... judging from how zippy this one feels compared to most every thing out now...I'd say yes. Granted I'm coming from a GS2 but so far I really like this one.
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bumsock said:
Well..I've only had this phone since this Friday but... judging from how zippy this one feels compared to most every thing out now...I'd say yes. Granted I'm coming from a GS2 but so far I really like this one.
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Just curious, what made you decide on this rather than the One or S4?

Well unforeseen circumstances forced me to buy a phone outright off contract . So at first I asked about the galaxy s4 and the Sprint rep said that they could not sell it off contract... something about because it has a SIM card :what: BUT...I still have an upgrade coming a little later, probably around the time the Galaxy Note 3 is out and what ever else comes out by then.
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I think there is only a 50 dollar difference between the phones (One S4 and This one) but I was pushing it money wise getting this lol
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No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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I agree not as much development but how much do we really need we have the main AOSP ROMs with a few minor bugs, we have tweaked stock all we really need is sense 5 which is coming soon. The camera is garbage in low light situations but in good lighting it is nice.
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bumsock said:
Well unforeseen circumstances forced me to buy a phone outright off contract . So at first I asked about the galaxy s4 and the Sprint rep said that they could not sell it off contract... something about because it has a SIM card :what: BUT...I still have an upgrade coming a little later, probably around the time the Galaxy Note 3 is out and what ever else comes out by then.
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I think there is only a 50 dollar difference between the phones (One S4 and This one) but I was pushing it money wise getting this lol
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When is your upgrade? If it's within 6 months then it would have been a lot cheaper to pay the early upgrade fee and got an s4 or one than to pay outright
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I definitely would, but I would like to see one with 64GB internal or better yet, a microSD slot. I find myself constantly moving stuff off from my phone to computer to make space (photos, videos, backups).

Nope. I'm in fact in the process of getting rid every phone I've been on since the Photon (LGOG included) and going back to the Photon or the Atrix. Every one of them has been a downgrade and a waste of silicon in my eyes.
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No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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And most of those "ROMs" are themes and copycat tweaks distributed as ROMs. So the Galaxy phones have a couple true ROMs and a ton of themes pretending to be ROMs.

pdelacr2 said:
No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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sharkboy0901 said:
I agree not as much development but how much do we really need we have the main AOSP ROMs with a few minor bugs, we have tweaked stock all we really need is sense 5 which is coming soon. The camera is garbage in low light situations but in good lighting it is nice.
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By all means you guys are more then welcome to set up to the plate. Sorry there is a lack of dev support for this phone, but the people have worked on this phone have worked very hard. You have no idea. We put in 3 months or so into getting you guys working Aosp. Getting everything working was a total pain in the ass. LGs implementation of EFS was a night mare to get passed, but we came up with a good solution. We probably lost 10 phones or so before we figured it out. I know I personally had two replacements. So be happy for what you have. I know for a fact all of the roms in the original dev section are working and stable. I was actually thinking to myself yesterday that I am actually starting to like this this phone (even though it has been a total ***** to me through the entire process).
If you get a chance. Thank Shelnutt2, thecubed, Autoprime, dvxher and Synergy when you get a chance. Also, Mike_77, Redmk, chachin, Interloper, ilkinansr92 and last but not least my favorite tester Theo2889. Without these guys none of this would ever of happened.

rlasalle15 said:
By all means you guys are more then welcome to set up to the plate. Sorry there is a lack of dev support for this phone, but the people have worked on it have worked very hard. We put in 3 months or so into getting you guys working Aosp. Getting everything working was not as easy as you think. So be happy for what you have. I know for a fact all of the roms in the original dev section are working and stable. I was actually thinking to myself yesterday that I am actually starting to like this this phone (even though it has been a total ***** to me through the entire process).
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Guys like this are a big reason I WOULD buy another Optimus.
We may not have a million ROMs like the SIII, but I have maintained from day one that this is a good thing for us. Our ROMs are stable, functional, and well supported. The Quality v Quantity theory.The devs that we have are committed and really produce some great work. Even builds that have been labeled as "unstable", in my experience, have been pretty danged stable.
Additionally, I think that LG really knocked it out of the park with the hardware on this phone. I would love to see an SD card slot, but haven't really had need for one thanks to cloud services, I would just like the option. I would like to see a better sensor on the camera, but let's be honest, if you want glamour shots you should buy a camera, not a phone. Other than that, I literally have no complaints about this Optimus G and I go so far as to say that it is the best phone I have owned to date. I cannot wait to see what it does when they finally deploy LTE in Denver, but that's sprints problem.