it is said that the galaxy nexus uses the pentile display .. and all we know that pentile isn't really good .. so i am going to buy a nexus tonight and i would to ask you if the screen good or bad .. do you like it or not ?
I've had numerous phones, GS2, iPhone 4...this is the best screen I've seen yet.
The Pentile discussion is kind of ridiculous.
I've had four phones this year
- Vibrant
- My touch
- Nexus S
- Evo 3d
When compared to everything else including my friends' iPhone this is the best display I have ever used.
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Its crazy good, by far the best screen on any device I've ever seen, blacks are so black u can't tell where the phone ends and the screen begins without looking really close. Also u can load up pretty much any page in portrait view with far away zoom and STILL read the really really fine text just fine.
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Yeah it uses a pentile display much to people's dismay. Quite a few people/reviews have stated the following: 1.) Whites appear like a linen yellow. 2.) Blue tinge on the screen 3.) Pixelation is noticeable on text. While that is all true the screen isn't that bad, passable at least while playing games or watching videos. Is it the BEST screen ever? I would say no.
zetsumeikuro said:
Yeah it uses a pentile display much to people's dismay. Quite a few people/reviews have stated the following: 1.) Whites appear like a linen yellow. 2.) Blue tinge on the screen 3.) Pixelation is noticeable on text. While that is all true the screen isn't that bad, passable at least while playing games or watching videos. Is it the BEST screen ever? I would say no.
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Sweetheart, you do know that the screen cannot have blue tinge and linen yellow whites at the same time right? Light cannot work like that. And pixelation is noticable on text? Are you insane? Have you seen the screen?
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Sweetheart, you do know that the screen cannot have blue tinge and linen yellow whites at the same time right? Light cannot work like that. And pixelation is noticable on text? Are you insane? Have you seen the screen?
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Calm down there Nexus fan boy/girl! I'm just stating these are things people have seen. Obviously not saying the blue tinge along w/ the yellow whites occur at the same time. Yes I have seen the screen numerous times, and a co-worker was the one to tell me about the yellowish whites.
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it is said that the galaxy nexus uses the pentile display .. and all we know that pentile isn't really good .. so i am going to buy a nexus tonight and i would to ask you if the screen good or bad .. do you like it or not ?
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Pentile on the original SGS/NexusS wasn't nearly what it is on this Galaxy Nexus. Last night I spent about an hour comparing and contrasting between his iPhone4s and my brand new Galaxy Nexus. When it came down to it, the Galaxy Nexus had the same readability as the vaunted Retina display, but with deeper blacks, and generally more vibrant (ermm, oversaturated) colors. Looks great to me, but people have different preferences.
i've had the moto droid, moto atrix, htc thunderbolt, iphone4, and this is by far the nicest screen ive ever had.
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Yeah it uses a pentile display much to people's dismay. Quite a few people/reviews have stated the following: 1.) Whites appear like a linen yellow. 2.) Blue tinge on the screen 3.) Pixelation is noticeable on text. While that is all true the screen isn't that bad, passable at least while playing games or watching videos. Is it the BEST screen ever? I would say no.
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Are you just quoting other posts or do you actually have a GN? If so does the screen look yellow, blue, or pixelated to you? If it does I would return it ASAP because it shouldn't. Mine and the ones I've played with in the store do not.
Pentile? What Pentile?
In my experience, the pentile isn't an issue. The screen is (theoretically) gorgeous, however (and maybe I'm an exception), I've seen that only about 1 in 3 GNexi have a screen that truly looks like it's supposed to. I'm on my third GNex, two of the three have had different screen issues, and the third had a great display but a blown earpiece
That being said, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one, just be sure to THOROUGHLY inspect it before you leave the store. I'm going back for my fourth today.
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Are you just quoting other posts or do you actually have a GN? If so does the screen look yellow, blue, or pixelated to you? If it does I would return it ASAP because it shouldn't. Mine and the ones I've played with in the store do not.
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My co-workers device's screen white's looked yellow. I went into the store to mess around w/ the device and did notice the same on those units. There have been others stating there is a blue tinge, which is supposedly a normal thing, as to preserve the blue pixel. The screen has minor pixelation but it's not too noticeable like the Moto devices.
You must have microscope eyes then. I can't see any pixelation holding device from one palm far from my eyes.
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My co-workers device's screen white's looked yellow. I went into the store to mess around w/ the device and did notice the same on those units. There have been others stating there is a blue tinge, which is supposedly a normal thing, as to preserve the blue pixel. The screen has minor pixelation but it's not too noticeable like the Moto devices.
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You must have microscope eyes then. I can't see any pixelation holding device from one palm far from my eyes.
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I do have very good vision yes.
No pixelation that I can see, and I use a lot of different types of high res screens for work. I'm really not sure how anyone can say they see pixelation on such a high density display. Take a look at the 'unlock' circle on the lock screen. You have to look realllly hard to see the jagidness - and this is a circle drawn with square pixels
Colours are slightly over saturated which makes them pop more, however they are not technically accurate - if you care. Eg. look at a photograph from a SLR camera on the gn vs a high quality computer screen.
The only real issue I see is the artefacts (grey 'dirty' look of white backgrounds) on the 2 or 3 lowest brightness settings. This is slightly annoying because you need to leave auto brightness on to preserve battery. You can however use a custom rom to change the lowest limit of brightness.
Trust me, when you turn it on, you'll think the 'google' logo that comes up is actually a sticker on the screen, and when the startup animation starts you'll fall off your chair
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Sweetheart, you do know that the screen cannot have blue tinge and linen yellow whites at the same time right? Light cannot work like that. And pixelation is noticable on text? Are you insane? Have you seen the screen?
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I will say that I can notice some pixelization of text, primarily on colored text (reds, blues, purples, etc. are the worst offenders), although that's not to say it's terribly pixelated, but it is noticeable if you know what you're looking for. Certainly nothing to dismiss the phone for, but to say it's not visible is untrue.
i can see it's pentile (having had a nexus one I know how it looks) but it's not much of a problem, the resolution is high enough. Sure it would be nicer if it was RGB, but it's good enough for me, at least (and I hated my N1's screen)
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i can see it's pentile (having had a nexus one I know how it looks) but it's not much of a problem, the resolution is high enough. Sure it would be nicer if it was RGB, but it's good enough for me, at least (and I hated my N1's screen)
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Agreed. To each their own when it comes to displays! I'm not bashing on the display at all, just stating what I have seen.
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i can see it's pentile (having had a nexus one I know how it looks) but it's not much of a problem, the resolution is high enough. Sure it would be nicer if it was RGB, but it's good enough for me, at least (and I hated my N1's screen)
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I agree. Overall I like the display better than my iphone 4, but it does have flaws, and I think the sharpness of the apple retina is better. Still, the blacks are to die for, and I like a little more punch to my colors since I'm not going to be doing any color-sensitive work on a phone. Plus, the size on the GN is juuuuust right.
Though I have to disagree with the poster that said the opening animation looks incredible. I was actually severely disappointed that they chose such a low res animation to "showcase" the HD super amoled display. It should be in native res, but it obviously isn't. That said, it would probably slow down the boot process considerably if that were the case, so it's just fine the way it is.
PenTile, yes. Excellent quality, also yes.
Unless you are a photographer, the colours shouldn't matter that much to you - white is still pretty white, and black is very black, and everything inbetween is pretty damn good too.
Those complaining about pixelation on the screen...well, to be honest, I can see pixels on my PC monitor, and it's a fancy-shmancy 1080p 120Hz 3D monster. I can see pixels on a Retina display. Pixels are everywhere.
I CAN SEE THE PIXELS D:
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http://androidheadlines.com/2010/06/htc-switch-to-stft-lcd-from-amoled-due-to-shortages.html
this could be a rumour but if true, I'm going to be a lot more careful with my desire.
I heard this as well. How will this affect battery life and do they look anywhere near as good?
LCDs these days are almost as good as AMOLED. Note that I said almost. I don't think anything can compare to an AMOLED or SuperAMOLED in regular inside environments, but when you get outside and the sun is shining, it's almost as if the screen isn't on. I have to put the brightness all of the way up to see the screen. LCDs don't have that problem. So If you don't know which you have in a new phone, you probably wont be able to tell unless you're outside! muahaha.
Hmm. I'm glad I already have the Desire...
As far as I know, AMOLED gives better viewing angles, has better colors and is better for battery life (which is a pain on Android phones).
Also, an AMOLED is better than LCD for showing true black or darker shades due to the lack of a backlight which is in LCD screens
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Maybe this will finally prevent the pinkish issue on some HTC AMOLED devices.
Well, Sony's TFTs shouldn't have PenTile, which should make text sharper and really ought to get rid of the pink tint. It's a trade-off; personally I'd rather have TFT with RGB subpixels, but it seems to be a minority opinion.
according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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The screen could be good, but i don't understand why apple did't made the screen bigger.
Iphone 4 screen is awesome, nice colours & perfectly viewable from a variety of angles. Pin sharp & very very clear. But its a bit too small for my liking.
Doesn't the iphone use ips technology or is that the same as super lcd (because this is the first time i hear of super lcd)
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Well, Sony's TFTs shouldn't have PenTile, which should make text sharper and really ought to get rid of the pink tint. It's a trade-off; personally I'd rather have TFT with RGB subpixels, but it seems to be a minority opinion.
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Agree 100% (love AMOLED, but hate PenTile). If someone ever offer me to change my Desire to normal LCD Desire i would be over the moon. I hope HTC will make ones. Maybe, just one for me
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according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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What the Engadget article really showed was that in NORMAL use there was no discernible advantage to the iPhone 4 screen.
Being the Apple shills that they are they resorted to the retarded microscope comparisons. IF you have to show what the pixels look like under a microscope to get what the difference is then there's no difference.
Hi, I really want to buy a Desire but when I tried it in a store I could easily notice the fuziness caused by the Pentile subpixel layout. This was on white text on a medium coloured background - I've read it's worst on black/white. I also looked at the Galaxy S and the fuzziness was much less noticable - I just hate the look and feel of that phone.
The problem is I have a pretty low tolerance to small details like that and pretty good eyesight, so I was wondering if anyone here is as anal about visual flaws as me but happily lives with the Desire's screen? I want my next phone purchace to last a couple of years at least...
I also thought it might be nice to wait and see if HTC release a Desire with a S-LCD screen - sharpness wins over deep blacks for me considering the other potential flaws with the AMOLED screens. Any thoughts?
(If the Wildfire had either an AMOLED RGB screen or a higher resolution LCD then I'd just settle for that - it looks sexy enough to live with the lack of power.)
any thoughts? eh, sure. I don't see the the "potential flaws" of AMOLED screens at all. Sure a true LCD display will have sharper definition for black on white text, but I hardly would clal my Desire screen blurred or fuzzy. I think its fine. I do a lot of reading on the net too and its absolutely fine, but you are right an LCD like iPhone is sharper for text.
I prefer the colours and the perfect blacks myself. Makes using the phone for watching movies etc a pleasure. If you use it just for very small text though, get something else. If your as picky as you seem, you will definitely have problems with this one with its amoled screen. I won't even mention the over saturated colours or the pink hue when viewing grays. You won't like that either.
i compared the screen on my desire to my friends new iphone 4 and honestly i could only tell the difference when i got so close it was physically hurting my eyes to focus on it, i really think that the screen on the desire is top and i dont seem to have much trouble with it in the daylight either for some reason
By potential flaws I meant the uneven & relatively fast fading and the burn in that some people are reporting.
I looked for the pink hue in the shop but couldn't notice it. Isn't that a hit or miss thing?
OLED is a major selling point for me. But then is resolution (<3 my x50v)
Anyone think the Desire with an S-LCD would be a big improvement?
Yeah, daylight didn't seem to be an issue at all, compared to other devices I've used over the years.
I definitely see a huge difference between Desire and iPhone 4 though. Desire is actually about on par with the previous iPhones in terms of actual blurryness, but the fact the pattern is staggered makes it more noticeable.
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I looked for the pink hue in the shop but couldn't notice it. Isn't that a hit or miss thing?
Anyone think the Desire with an S-LCD would be a big improvement?
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No the pink hue effects all AMOLED screens when displaying certain gray shades. I suggest you read the sticky post all about the AMOLED Pentile display and how it works.
Is the Desire available with S-LCD? If not, whats the point? Just get yourself a phone with LCD and be happy. The power drain on a desire with LCD would be significantly increased too. Sure AMOLED uses more on a 100% white screen, but it use much less on darker themed screens or coloured screens.
I've read the sticky and think I have a good grasp of the issue, but I've seen reports from people saying the pinkness varies.
I also have 20/20 vision and this screen is fine, the only times I'm disappointed is while text is scrolling there is a visable wave in the letters and outdoor in direct sunlight you need to find the good angle to read.
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I used to be very anal about my phone. And of course you might be different but for me trying to choose the perfect one / making the perfect one ever more perfect just does not work. Huge effort, lots of frustration, little or no results and even the ones you get are brief. That's the problem with this attitude - you'll just always find another flaw to frown upon.
What worked for me was taking positive action rather than getting rid of all the faults. I implemented Allen's GTD system and I'm using my phone as a collection/organisation tool. Works great and now my phone is a very useful tool instead of being just a gadget. Flaws don't matter anymore. And with GTD I can be as anal as I only wish and still happy
BTW totally agree on Galaxy S. It's so much better phone than Desire but it's simply atrocious. Couldn't bear the thought of carrying something that makes me wanna puke for next 2/3 years.
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No the pink hue effects all AMOLED screens when displaying certain gray shades. I suggest you read the sticky post all about the AMOLED Pentile display and how it works.
Is the Desire available with S-LCD? If not, whats the point? Just get yourself a phone with LCD and be happy. The power drain on a desire with LCD would be significantly increased too. Sure AMOLED uses more on a 100% white screen, but it use much less on darker themed screens or coloured screens.
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Pink hue is not AMOLED related since it shows also in software emulator (on PC) and varies among phones. Sticky post is wrong all around but arguments for that are buried too deep in long thread.
AS for OP, HTC announced LCD Desire, and I would like to see one. I can notice PenTile artifacts and don't like it (together with over saturated colors and pink hue), but phone is so good in other segments it is worth owning.
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never seen the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affected and some are not.
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Yeah sure the screen has some negatives about it but when compared side to side to my old iPhone's screen its blows the iPhone out of the water. I prefer AMOLED because I can turn it up full brightness and not be blinded by an annoying backlight that make sthe phone more suitable as a flashlight than a screen.
I thought I replied earlier, but it seems Opera 10.60 is a little glitchy with the forum (and in general...)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies guys. On the way home I had a look at the Desire again in another store and found the screen a lot more agreeable. I tried it sitting down, making me naturally hold it a couple of inches farther away, which makes a big difference. Plus I had more of an "how nice is this display?" attitude rather than "can I notice the flaw?"
So I came home and ordered one online. If the text bugs me that much, I can always stick to my Axim for ebooks.
edit: Still eager to see what S-LCD brings to the table, though.
Apparently, S-LCD does not stand for 'Super LCD', it is just a name of Samsung-Sony LCD factory.
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I thought I replied earlier, but it seems Opera 10.60 is a little glitchy with the forum (and in general...)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies guys. On the way home I had a look at the Desire again in another store and found the screen a lot more agreeable. I tried it sitting down, making me naturally hold it a couple of inches farther away, which makes a big difference. Plus I had more of an "how nice is this display?" attitude rather than "can I notice the flaw?
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Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different? If one has to be told that they are different... well that tells me that they work as designed.
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
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Apparently, S-LCD does not stand for 'Super LCD', it is just a name of Samsung-Sony LCD factory.
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That makes me happy, if it's just another IPS or whatever then I know what to expect.
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Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different? If one has to be told that they are different... well that tells me that they work as designed.
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
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I definitely would have noticed it if I didn't know in advance. (I'm not trying to imply there's anything good about extreme pickiness - it's a compulsive disorder and a bloody nightmare.)
I appreciate the minimum distance thing, but obviously it varies with eyesight - hence the brief controversy over Apple's 'retina' claims. It's just going to require a slight adjustment to my habits while standing to compensate for this.
As for the RGB thing, I feel that's easier to mentally filter out because it's consistent vertically whereas Pentile alternates the relatively larger red/blue subpixels. I imagine this is why the effect was less noticeable on the Galaxy S's RGBW layout, despite the slightly lower DPI?
markuz85 said:
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never een the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affectewd and some are not.
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So your saying the new forum theme doesn't look pink to you on your phone? All the grey bits around the forum are definitely pink in colour on mine. Maybe i have one of the affected phones.
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Well then it can be fixed with firmware right.
markuz85 said:
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never seen the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affected and some are not.
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you have not noticed the pink? well then you are not anal enough. try harder
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Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different?
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As above, I think this is subjective. Some people stare at their phones looking for dust, looking for a hint of pink, looking for a mark in the case, looking for... etc etc etc... If you want to treat it like that you will be a very miserable camper. It's a phone, it has an average lifespan of 2 years probably. Use it. It reminds of these people who own a beautiful Ferrari but on't drive it. just keep it in a garage and rub it with a cloth. whats the point?
I think the only thing thats variable on the pink hue thing is the persons opinion of how pink it is. not noticeable or noticeable. some people will say its not there, some people will say it sso pink they cannot even see any other colours.
I had my eyes colour calibrated in a 16 hour operation at an optical lab in switzerland 4 weeks ago, they now recognise 400 shades of pink and have 20/20 vision, so I KNOW my phone has pink. etc etc LOL
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So your saying the new forum theme doesn't look pink to you on your phone? All the grey bits around the forum are definitely pink in colour on mine. Maybe i have one of the affected phones.
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The forum doesn't look at all pink on my phone, I've never seen this issue either.
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people who own a beautiful Ferrari but on't drive it. just keep it in a garage and rub it with a cloth. whats the point?
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Rubbing certain things can be very, um, therapeutic...
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Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
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Sorry, but all your arguments don't add up. On LCD screens i have perfectly straight horizontal and vertical lines, there is no need to filter out anything.
On PenTile displays i dont have straight lines because of the pattern that is used. THAT is the problem. Lines look like zigzag-lines not straight ones. And no i'm not looking at my phone from 1 cm distance, i'm looking at it from a normal distance and i can see the pentile effect on my Nexus One. I also had a Motorola Milestone which comes with an LCD that surpasses any AMOLED PenTile screen quality regarding resolution. (while both claim to have wvga)
There is a very easy test for this. Take a Motorola Droid and a Nexus One. Place them side by side and open a webpage on full zoomed out view. You will see the difference in resolution quality VERY clearly. Anybody who claims that there is no difference is lying. You can't just imply that the eye can't see an difference because there are many people out there with normal eyesight (i'm not talking about eagle eyes here) which see the pentile pattern too clearly.
The whole topic is quite frustrating because when buying a nexus one you make one step forward (generall hardware) and two steps back (pentile).
Has anyone else noticed that the ET4G's screen isn't that great when it comes to the color white?
When compared to my Evo4G,
pictures and video - ET4G wins - main colors are "colors"
websites with white backgrounds, pdfs etc - Evo4G wins
To me it looks like the white just isn't as bright, kind of like how the Evo's black isn't as black as the ET4G's black... if that makes any sense.
Is it just my eyes or my device?
ps I love this thing, not trolling, just trying to figure out if this is just me
Par for the course on SAMOLED screens. On SAMOLED vs. LCD, blacks are better but whites are worse, generally speaking.
I only notice it with my brightness turned down. Looks better at dull brightness (of course)
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R1ptide said:
Has anyone else noticed that the ET4G's screen isn't that great when it comes to the color white?
When compared to my Evo4G,
pictures and video - ET4G wins - main colors are "colors"
websites with white backgrounds, pdfs etc - Evo4G wins
To me it looks like the white just isn't as bright, kind of like how the Evo's black isn't as black as the ET4G's black... if that makes any sense.
Is it just my eyes or my device?
ps I love this thing, not trolling, just trying to figure out if this is just me
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That is kinda a thing, yes. Though I have seen some very abused (S)AMOLED(+) screens and a couple unlucky new ones where the white isn't white and just sucks. That's what you call a bad screen.
the "O" in SAMOLED+ stands for "organic" and over time these organics do degrade faster than your average LCD. They have a type of compensation built into the circuitry to accommodate for this, but, in the limited amount of time most people have a phone they shouldn't notice it...though there are also bad screens that deteriorate rapidly and some that even burn in.
So, yes, AMOLED technology isn't known for having the whitest whites but they should still be bright white, if not you may either have a bad screen or a fantastic eye....hope for a bad screen cuz you can replace that, but a very good eye for these things may drive you fncking crazy.
samoled screens are like that.... yellowish tint for whites but the blacks are BLACK.
Interesting, thanks for the replys everyone
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That is kinda a thing, yes. Though I have seen some very abused (S)AMOLED(+) screens and a couple unlucky new ones where the white isn't white and just sucks. That's what you call a bad screen.
the "O" in SAMOLED+ stands for "organic" and over time these organics do degrade faster than your average LCD. They have a type of compensation built into the circuitry to accommodate for this, but, in the limited amount of time most people have a phone they shouldn't notice it...though there are also bad screens that deteriorate rapidly and some that even burn in.
So, yes, AMOLED technology isn't known for having the whitest whites but they should still be bright white, if not you may either have a bad screen or a fantastic eye....hope for a bad screen cuz you can replace that, but a very good eye for these things may drive you fncking crazy.
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I'll see if I can get a good picture comparing it to the Evo. The site I really noticed it on was slashdot. Looks like crap on the epic compared to the evo
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R1ptide said:
Interesting, thanks for the replys everyone
I'll see if I can get a good picture comparing it to the Evo. The site I really noticed it on was slashdot. Looks like crap on the epic compared to the evo
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Then something might be wrong. Slashdot is my homepage and I've been going there since...I can't even remember when, over 10 years...12?
Either way, I know that color scheme like the back of my hand. I see it in my sleep. It has been my homepage for 10 years now. I've seen it on everything from a smart phone to projected on the side of my neighbors white house....Slashdot should look normal.
I'd investigate further if I were you.
Just switch it to dyanmic
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Just switch it to dyanmic
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I'm sorry, dynamic what
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The whites are fine. I believe your eyes are playing tricks on you. The blacks being so deep give it somewhat a darker tint to the whites, but in truth, it's there.
The whites are good on the SAMOLED+ screens. Just because they a brighter on another screen doesn't mean anything. Personally, super strong white would bug my eyes after a while.
I have a 'Mel Gibson' type "Conspiracy Theory" about this whole issue....
I think that Samsung, though they use exactly the same sourcecode as all the other manufacturers, might simply insert a piece of code that inverts the colors that they want, at a certain time.
For example:
Every other phone on the planet has no problem producing a vibrant "white" color....
Every other phone on the planet has a REAL problem producing a vibrant "black" color.
Samsung basically 'flip-flops" this, and I wonder if it's not just a well-placed piece of "inversion" code....
The results would be incredible blacks, and so-so whites...
Does anyone understand what I'm getting at, and care to comment?
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Sht I thought that I was only one on xda that has yellow tint problem.
Its not just our Epics,tmobile gs2 and nexus prime have same problem.
And no-they are not supposed to be like that!
I looked at epic touch at sprint store and their epic was cool temperature white not like mine which is straight yellowish-orange.
I bought mine on amazon and im on my second return.My second phone was litle better but still orange-yellow compared to one at sprint store or my old Epic 1.
To sum this up:
Whoever has yellow tint on their epic touch or other galaxy s2 variants-they have defective phone.And its gonna get worse because in amoled screens blue colors deteriorate quicker than reast,so if your phone is yellowish now it will be red in a year or two,lol.
Its better to get a phone with bluish tint because overtime it will go away,while yellow will only get worse.
yeah u guys arent kidding... The blacks on this screen are effin black. lol.
Every other phone on the planet has no problem producing a vibrant "white" color....
Every other phone on the planet has a REAL problem producing a vibrant "black" color.
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Yes it is..and samsung gave u a bonus..amazing rgb colors..
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What's the contrast ratio of our phones? I did a search but all that was said is that "it's high", didn't give exact numbers.
That being said is there a color calibration app, much like one's for tv's & pc monitors, that can be used on our smartphones?
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What's the contrast ratio of our phones? I did a search but all that was said is that "it's high", didn't give exact numbers.
That being said is there a color calibration app, much like one's for tv's & pc monitors, that can be used on our smartphones?
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Yeah there is an app in market check my other thread for the name.It want fix yellow tint issue but will make it better.
So I'm wondering if the screen on the phone is actually nice? I've read mixed reviews but I'm just wondering if its exaggerated or if the screen is actually nice. How would current owners of the device rate it? Is it on par with the retina display? Are pixels actually noticeable? Any info would greatly be appreciated, thanks.
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So I'm wondering if the screen on the phone is actually nice? I've read mixed reviews but I'm just wondering if its exaggerated or if the screen is actually nice. How would current owners of the device rate it? Is it on par with the retina display? Are pixels actually noticeable? Any info would greatly be appreciated, thanks.
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I have spent around an hour with it and screen is CRAP compared to iPhone 4. Very very dark even on max brightness and AUTO off. There is no white shade, just grey. If you look closer, you can see individual pixels even they call it HD screen. Very dissapointed, such an amazing design with fresh Android, but terrible screen. Not even SAMLOED+.
iPhone 4 screen is unbeatable.
Really? In a way this wouldn't surprise me, though. My 4 and 4S have always been crisper than the other phones I see. I would've hoped the GN would be better though.
Can you comfortably load a desktop web page and see all the text without zooming?
wow. That sounds absolutely terrible. A nightmare. No white shade, just grey. wow. Just canceled order. Thanks for that.
the screen is brilliant, i love it.
Oh really, huh?
Funny, since usually people complain that AMOLED screens are too ****ing bright.
Crank the brightness up a bit and the GN is a decent screen, certainly better than my NS. Now I also have an iPhone 4s (work made me do it!) and I'd say the colours are a little more realistic on the iPhone. In the end the screen size is of greater benefit to me and fairly soon
Supercurio will have worked his voodoo magic and we will be able to choose whatever colour temperature we want.
Edit... the screen isn't dull in comparison with the iPhone, that's complete crap (sorry). And there are no pixels when zooming in on web pages.
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Oh really, huh?
Funny, since usually people complain that AMOLED screens are too ****ing bright.
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Take iPhone 4 and put next to Samsung(max brightness) and you will see HOW dark is sammy`s display and how "white" is white colour - just terrible. Samsung should have used some really premium display in their flagship superphone instead of this crap. I`m so used to superbright retina screen, looking at sammy`s screen felt like its $50 phone.
Hows it compare to QHD screens ((Amaze/Sensation)?
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Hows it compare to QHD screens ((Amaze/Sensation)?
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I had Sensation and its screen was pretty bright, I would say more brighter than GN.
All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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I had Sensation and its screen was pretty bright, I would say more brighter than GN.
All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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Er - I have!
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There are some funny people out there.
IMHO the screen is fantastic. Side by side with the GS2 it blows it out of the water. Sharper, clearer AND bigger. The GS2 looks distinctly low res.
Sure the iphone screen is pretty but its tiny.
Im sure people will disagree with me but thats the great thing about opinions
Can anyone do a side by side screen comparison and post pictures?
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I had Sensation and its screen was pretty bright, I would say more brighter than GN.
All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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I have seen iPhone 4 screen.
I still prefer the Galaxy Nexus screen.
opinion is subjective. you cannot tell me that I am wrong for liking the Galaxy Nexus screen compared to the iPhone 4. you can only disagree with me.
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IMHO the screen is fantastic.
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Kind of YES it is - because its huge and high res(it has to be, otherwise pixels will jump into your face)
Side by side with the GS2 it blows it out of the water. Sharper, clearer AND bigger. The GS2 looks distinctly low res.
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Agree, GS2 screen is just junk.
Sure the iphone screen is pretty but its tiny.
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++++, but it doesn`t make GN screen WOOOW or AMAZING.
I had so much hope for GN screen, now its out and I`m struggling to make a decision, but I need larger screen.
It's not really surprising that the iPhone has a "better"screen. It uses a high density IPS panel. IPS is well known for its superior brightness, color accuracy, and viewing angles. There's a reason IPS monitors are so wildly popular in photo/graphic editing fields.
Some will disagree because of their ridiculous iPhone animosity, but they don't really matter.
That said, the GSII screen (the SAMOLED+) is not "junk". Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
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Can anyone do a side by side screen comparison and post pictures?
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Just google/youtube, quite few. But it doesn`t reflect real life situation because its recorded by camera and it does change colours etc. Go to mobile phone shop, take both and put side by side.
That's funny, I've owned every iPhone iteration except for this latest (4S) and I currently own a Galaxy S II. I took my S II to my friend, who imported a Galaxy Nexus, and is replacing his iPhone 4S (doesn't like it). We cranked the brightness to max on all 3 devices, and then to minimum on all 3.
The Galaxy Nexus had, arguably, the best screen of the bunch. We asked multiple people (5 or 6 of our friends were over) and they all agreed. Watching videos and looking at pictures shows a *WORLD* of difference. The screen on the iPhone is brilliant, but compared to the size and resolution of the Galaxy Nexus...you're kidding yourself if you think it's crap.
Disclaimer: The whites *are* more pure white on the iPhone, and the colors are more true to life; however, that's a common difference betwixt SUPERAMOLED screens and the screen in the iPhone. Some people prefer the higher contrast and color saturation in the AMOLED screens...and I'm starting to agree. After owning every iPhone I used to love them, but now I'm blown away every time I turn on my phone because of the way the colors pop.
Your opinion might be that the screen on the iPhone is better...but to say that the screen on the Galaxy Nexus is crap kind of tells me you've either never seen it in the same conditions as the iPhone or you're expressing your opinion through exaggeration.
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Kind of YES it is - because its huge and high res(it has to be, otherwise pixels will jump into your face)
Agree, GS2 screen is just junk.
++++, but it doesn`t make GN screen WOOOW or AMAZING.
I had so much hope for GN screen, now its out and I`m struggling to make a decision, but I need larger screen.
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Ok.... the screen did make me go wow ! As it has most people ive shown it to.
I dont agree with the apple corporate way of working so an iphone was never an optiom.
IMHO the GN is the best android screen ive seen.
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All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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Yes I have. I owned an iPhone 4 before this phone. I prefer the blacks and colours on the GN - much deeper blacks, much more vivid colours.
Whites/light greys, however, are a different story. On high brightness the GN wins, but anything lower and yes, they're grainy, bandy and greyey. Very poor, but I believe it's a symtom of Pentile displays unfortunately.
Those blacks though. Those blacks!
So I've had my Galaxy Nexus for a few days and for the most part love it. One thing that surprises me is that the screen... The screen's quality was one of the main reasons I bought the phone, but whenever the screen is mostly white or a light color, it just looks... bad. Like it isn't one uniform color, it's almost a grid. The lower the screen brightness, the worse it is.
I'm just wondering if this is a fluke or if everyone's phone is like this, and this is just an effect of the pentile display or something.
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So I've had my Galaxy Nexus for a few days and for the most part love it. One thing that surprises me is that the screen... The screen's quality was one of the main reasons I bought the phone, but whenever the screen is mostly white or a light color, it just looks... bad. Like it isn't one uniform color, it's almost a grid. The lower the screen brightness, the worse it is.
I'm just wondering if this is a fluke or if everyone's phone is like this, and this is just an effect of the pentile display or something.
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I'm seeing it as well, my old phone's TFT screen looks far better at low brightness.
The nexus looks grainy due to the pentile as well as a brownish tint at lowest setting.
I've very worried about this. I'm the type that COULDN'T STAND the pentile on the Razr, like, return day 1 type of can't stand it.
Is the nexus considerably better as far as the grainy blocky pentile? I heard the resolution makes it a lot better. Is this true?
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I've very worried about this. I'm the type that COULDN'T STAND the pentile on the Razr, like, return day 1 type of can't stand it.
Is the nexus considerably better as far as the grainy blocky pentile? I heard the resolution makes it a lot better. Is this true?
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I haven't seen Razr in person, but Bionic was terrible.
The Nexus' isn't anywhere near like that but for someone OCD like me, I've found it slightly annoying - but not enough to not recommend it based on the screen.
Like Nexus S, Google choose too warm colours also for GN. Anyone can notice the yellowish effect/tint in white background even with brightness set to max level. So dont worry our screens are fine... f#...n google has made this choise.
Supercurio said today that he will try to fix that and also boost up the brightness.... also paul will give it a try.
Well done Google for ruining the best display out there