hi guys , i know this might seem a strange question but like most my stylus is loose in the holder and i sometimes need to use the keyboard to do most things on the unit and i cant find anywhere that activates the start option on the screen. I have done it by accident once but nothing since. i have checked the manual and it mentions it no where all operations seem to be around the stylus?
does anyone know what key combination it is ?
I have a 02 phone and unlike tmobile which has a one of the 4 buttons on front setup to do this as one of the defaults.
cheers in advance
It should be ctrl+escape on a full keyboard. It might also be enabled by the windows or context menu keys, not sure what your keyboard looks like.
You can use my VJKeypress to get this as well. I think it's keycode 91, not sure, check my website.
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Im talking about the blue angel, xda 2s keyboard thanks you for reply im not talking normal pc keyboard it does not have ctrl esc or alt on 02 xda 2s keyboard
Sorry! I've never seen a BlueAngel keyboard
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Why not assign one of the hardware buttons to do this, each one can have a duel function assigned either a tap or hold, according to the phone, in reality this doesn't work (unless anyone knows different - latest O2 ROM - not messed around with), whatever you set for a tap is also carried accross to the hold function, go to settings and locate the power buttons icon select it, then select the button you want (ok for example) then assign the <Start Menu> from the drop down box, press OK, the device might want a soft reset (mine did when I just tried this), when it comes back up hit the assigned button, and use the four way thumb control to navigate through the menus, it saves sliding out the keyboard and it becoming loose - Mike
cheers for this when i tried to reassign buttons before like the camera it wouldnt let me change them ..i hate the camera button getting accidently caught same as the record one as well.
cheers for the advance will do that would just like to know for my own peace of mind as well how to use the keyboard to do it, it should be possible.
Hi All,
Two weeks ago I became a quite lucky Desire user, but recently I've noticed decreasing sensitivity for optical joystick.
I have a feeling that at the begining it worked better, but right now from time to time it just stuck, non respond or just have a weird behaviour.
What I obsereved that if you will use piece of cloth (t-shirt, case - whatever with "structure" material) it works perfectly. In that case it response quickly, really nice.
Made research using diffrent "sides" of finger - and slightly better when you use side not a finger tip. Also trial on my colleguage proved that something is wrong.
Have you faced with such issues?
shall I wear gloves ? any other workaround?
is there any application to calibrate this optical pad?
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htc desire, formerly htc diamond, wm, palm, ...
perfektt said:
What I obsereved that if you will use piece of cloth (t-shirt, case - whatever with "structure" material) it works perfectly. In that case it response quickly, really nice.
Made research using diffrent "sides" of finger - and slightly better when you use side not a finger tip.
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Same issues =(
Got the same issues since the beginning. Actually the pad is nearly unusable for me. Strangely in the text box it works much better than other places. It's a bit annoying and there are times I wish I had a mechanic trackball like the N1...
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I too have the same problems and it's been like that since I had the phone.
I just thought it was normal and never use it as it's pretty much useless!
I just tried using the edge of the t-shirt and it works PERFECT!
Miss the trackball I had on my G1... that was uber sensitive and worked perfectly.
Might bob into the three shop and see what they say.
Phil
hmm dont notice any different with shirt / edge finger or normal use o.o where are you guys testing this on test or the menu? usually one vertical swype up on the menu makes the cursor go 1 page or sometimes 1 page +1
It really works perfect with the shirt.
For example right here to switch between posts. With my finger I often need to slide multiple times over the pad til it reacts.
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It's really annoying.
Just tested on switching between homescreens and scrolling through texts and I have to do it multiple times with my finger and then it doesn't always work but then work absolutely fine using my t-shirt.
Surely HTC must be aware of this problem. I have seen quite a few comments on this now.
Phil
Yeah he's right just tried with my T-shirt and it actually amazed me how useful the trackball became.
Shame my hands are not made of cloth.
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I have just emailed HTC to see what they have to say about it.
Perhaps if i wore gloves all the time just in case I needed to use the trackpad... oh but then my fingers wouldn't work on the screen
Hmmm on this thread I can scroll the while page in 1-2 swipes try putting more pressure on it
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Hmmm on this thread I can scroll the while page in 1-2 swipes try putting more pressure on it
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Nope! Pressure makes absolutely no difference!
When I use my t-shirt I barely have to touch it to get it to go exactly where I want it to!
Definately a problem with it. Perhaps they had a dodgy batch of optical sensors!?
Hm... Maybe a guess. I know, certain people have papillary lines on their finger tips, which are rather noticeable and are really easy to identify. The others don't.
Could this be that the trackpad sensor too much relies on identification of those papillary lines, and in case they're less visible, is unable to "decipher" the moving finger?
And yes, I also can confirms that:
1) Trackpad is more sensitive in Messages app
2) Trackpad is more sensitive when flipping left-right than up-down.
The optical trackpad is like a mouse, it detects image changes, the cloth (normal t-shirt cloth) has it wires parallel both vertically and horizontally, and it's really simple for the sensor to read it (the lines going from left to right or from down to up).
Now if you move the sensor on a completely blank surface for it's resolution it won't read any movement, no matter you move it half a mile. By blank for it's resolution I mean if it is 600dpi and the material has no difference larger than 1/600 of an inch. I imagine the Desire's optical sensor is no gaming Logitech laser mouse with 1200dpi 50-100dpi at most.
Back to the finger, everybodys fingerprints are different, (CSI people thanking the nature), so the lines on your finger can help or give a hard time to the sensor, I've also had problems using it, in the browser, on a hundreds of links page like a forum, I gently move the finger, the selected link stays the same than just jumps 3 links down, over the link I want, I go back and it goes back by two, again over my link, and the third time I get it right, or use the doubletap and the touchscreen ...
Maybe somebody can find the calibration/sensitivity file for us to edit.
PS: Sorry for my English, I did my best...
I think you got it in one there!
I just tried with my finger side-ways (so the lines on my finger are going the other way) and it works perfectly. I think that must be why it works better going sideways than up and down.
Bit dissapointing really... what was wrong with having a trackball?!
P.s. Your english is very good...nothing wrong with it!
Late night email work around
"Just don't wash your hands too often"
Ok so I just got a reply from HTC about this... and their very helpful suggestion:
"Dear Philip,
Thank you for contacting us. In regards to the track pad, I can help you with that. Warning: Resetting your phone will erase all data stored on the phone memory completely. Remember to back up the phone information and settings. To perform a hard reset please do the following: Go to the Home Screen Press Menu Tap Settings Tap Privacy Tap Factory data reset Tap Reset phone It is also possible to perform a factory reset by using the hardware buttons on the phone. 1. With the phone turned off, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER button. 2. Wait for the screen with the 3 Android images to appear, and then release the VOLUME DOWN button. 3. Press VOLUME DOWN to select CLEAR STORAGE, and then press POWER. 4. When asked to confirm, press VOLUME UP Will I lose all my calendar events, contacts and emails if I have to perform a factory reset? Yes, you will lose your data on the phone. However if you have set up a Google account on your phone, your data is synchronized and backed up on your Google account. To setup a Google account, please do the following: Go to the Home screen Press Menu Tap Settings Tap Accounts & sync Tap Add Account Tap Google Tap Next Tap Sign in Enter the Google Username and Password Tap Sign in The handset will now automatically sync Contacts, Calendar and Gmail with the Google account. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required."
Is it just me or does this seem like a totally irrelivent solution. Surely doing a hard reset will do absolutely sweet FA to resolve an issue with a hardware related issue?!
HTC are so poor.
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Hm... Maybe a guess. I know, certain people have papillary lines on their finger tips, which are rather noticeable and are really easy to identify. The others don't.
Could this be that the trackpad sensor too much relies on identification of those papillary lines, and in case they're less visible, is unable to "decipher" the moving finger?
And yes, I also can confirms that:
1) Trackpad is more sensitive in Messages app
2) Trackpad is more sensitive when flipping left-right than up-down.
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When I use my thumb tip which is line free apart from finger print using the track off is rubbish, half way down the tip are some lineage using just that section and the track pad improves 10 fold...
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Just tried using a blank piece of paper and it works fine for me... maybe its just a bad batch or something like that
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philje123 said:
Ok so I just got a reply from HTC about this... and their very helpful suggestion:
"Dear Philip,
Thank you for contacting us. In regards to the track pad, I can help you with that. Warning: Resetting your phone will erase all data stored on the phone memory completely. Remember to back up the phone information and settings. To perform a hard reset please do the following: Go to the Home Screen Press Menu Tap Settings Tap Privacy Tap Factory data reset Tap Reset phone It is also possible to perform a factory reset by using the hardware buttons on the phone. 1. With the phone turned off, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button, and then briefly press the POWER button. 2. Wait for the screen with the 3 Android images to appear, and then release the VOLUME DOWN button. 3. Press VOLUME DOWN to select CLEAR STORAGE, and then press POWER. 4. When asked to confirm, press VOLUME UP Will I lose all my calendar events, contacts and emails if I have to perform a factory reset? Yes, you will lose your data on the phone. However if you have set up a Google account on your phone, your data is synchronized and backed up on your Google account. To setup a Google account, please do the following: Go to the Home screen Press Menu Tap Settings Tap Accounts & sync Tap Add Account Tap Google Tap Next Tap Sign in Enter the Google Username and Password Tap Sign in The handset will now automatically sync Contacts, Calendar and Gmail with the Google account. I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required."
Is it just me or does this seem like a totally irrelivent solution. Surely doing a hard reset will do absolutely sweet FA to resolve an issue with a hardware related issue?!
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Just tell them you tried that and it makes no difference what so ever and there are alot of people who have the same issue (I being one of them).
I mean have you tried playing replica island with the trackpad!? It's impossible..
Was thinking of ordering one, curious how unlocking the Xoom worked with the keyboard. Thanks!
I just checked and no, you cannot unlock with the keyboard. You can switch the screen on duration to fit your needs.
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Actually, yes you can. if you have a keyboard with the "menu" key (usually on the right side of the keyboard near the Ctrl+Alt keys) it will work. I tried it last night and from sleep, one press takes to the unlock screen, one more unlocks the Xoom. Even without the Motorola Android specific keyboard, I found a lot of amazing shortcuts on a normal keyboard, do a google search, there are a lot, from opening Gmail/the browser to composing e-mails, etc. Just typing on the home screen brings up the search, which is great, and you can navigate most things, including going between home screens with the arrow keys. It convinced me that using the Xoom as a mini laptop replacement is relatively possible.
Hmmm, I tried every key on the moto keyboard and it will not wake it. Interesting that a generic keyboard would have that function.
I really do like the official keyboard however, I wish there was some way to map some of the keys. Its not really optimized for 3.0. Some of they keys do nothing and I haven't found a way to access the app drawer. A bit disappointing.
I think you modify the keylayout file so the button you want to wake has the "WAKE" attribute.
any idea on how to modify the keylayout on the motorola BT keyboard?
Half-way there
Actually, you can bypass the lock screen by hitting the "settings" button (or whatever it is called) 2 keys to the right from your spacebar on the Moto keyboard. However, I still can't get it to actually wake via a keypress.
Edit the /system/usr/keylayout/Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl file, assuming you are rooted.
On line 99, add the word WAKE beside MENU like this:
key 125 MENU WAKE
Save it and reboot. Be sure to make a backup of this file first in case you have any issues. Press Menu button once to bring it out of sleep and a second time to unlock it.
Thanks. I'm actually not rooted. Maybe I'll give that a try as well...
this worked perfectly! thanks very much
I have gotten my Xoom to wake up by pressing and holding the power button on the keyboard. It doesnt always work. It seems to depend of if the keyboard is awake itself. I have gotten them apps menu to open using the keyboard as well - its not an easy task. It depends on your ability to navigate to the top line on the home screen. Pressing enter will allow you to see if you have selected the top line (the top line is the row with the apps button, text and voice search, and the plus button). I can press alt+tab to select row, and then can cycle through the 4 options using tab. It is really hard to know which option you are on since it does not highlight as you cycle through. You simply press enter when you think you have it right. I think its much easier to just start typing the name of the app you wish to use and allow the xoom to search for it.
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Edit the /system/usr/keylayout/Vendor_22b8_Product_093d.kl file, assuming you are rooted.
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Is there any way to find out what file will be used for a keyboard? I bought a generic BT keyboard from eBay that has lots of Apple-specific keys. I wanted to remap them to take advantage of Android commands. I got the scancodes for each key and modified the Generic.kl file. In this file, however, it recommends to create a separate file for each device but I have no idea how I would make HC aware to use the specific file. Any ideas?
Hi guys this post is mainly for everyone using a livedock with a keyboard...just now I've been playing with the keyboard trying to figure out how I can bring the notifcation bar down via keyboard as I have not got a spare mouse. I come across these shortcuts. Hope they help:
1) The windows key or the home key takes you back to the home screen
2) enter key selects highlighted app or buttion
3) pg up/pg down acts as it does on windows I.e. scrolling up or down
4) the little menu button next to the right alt and right ctrl brings up the menu of android...I.e. on the home screen pressing this key will bring up the shortcut for adding widgets changing wallpaper accessing settings etc
5) holding down the windows key will bring up the recently open apps
So far this is what I've found. If I find anymore I will add to the list. If anyone comes across anymore shortcuts feel free add
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Wow Thanks for the Tip.
I have LiveDock but i just used it to Dock and Charge my phone. XD
Lol I just lie in bed at night and if I cant be bothered to hold my phone and type I use the keyboard. I would like to use a mouse but I havent got a spare one. I used to use the riitek wireless mini keyboard and trackpad but after a week it stopped connecting to the receiver...tried chaning rf channels but no luck lol waste of 25 bucks.
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Hi,
Is there an alternative method of navigating on the Note 10.1 2014? The hard wired back and home buttons are hard to get used to (came from N10 which had soft back and home buttons that automatically oriented themselves to the screen layout.)
I use taskarou , an app in the play store, to give myself soft buttons on both the bottom and right sides. You swipe from the edge and they appear, then disappear upon release. The way the app is set up initially is way too confusing for me, with multiple sub menus, but now that I have just back, recents and home it is much better. There is no way to get the menu bytton without root on any app like this, but overall I haven't missed it to much.
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