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[Q] LCD and Digitizer/Lens are they Glued together or can i just buy Digitizer

Hello, i had the misfortune to drop my Arc and having removed the factory fitted protector it shattered the glass and became unresponsive to touch commands. I am pretty certain the actual lcd is fine though. I have looked at a replacement digitizer but i am concerned that the LCD will be glued to it which will need a bit more expertise than i have. i have googled and found a video on an x10 dissasembly but even this is vague as to the build of the LCD/Digitizer..
anyone have any experience with this issue or any advice.
thanks in advance

They're glued together. Apparently you can use a hairdryer to melt the glue and separate the components, but needs patience, a steady hand, and a bit of luck...
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That is so annoying, i have just bought a digitizer from formymobile . com and i really dont wanna attempt it if they are a whole unit. i got hold of a torx 6 and took it apart as by the service manual that was posted on here but to get the screen off they have a specialist clamp and suction pad contraption..
I could fudge it but i am heavy handed at the best of times..
looks like a 85 pound repair bill from my local repair shop.. Better than buying a new phone i suppose.
many thanks for your advice

Defy damaged LCD screen!

Help,my defy spotted dead pixel. Digitizer still functioning. Where can I buy front glass with digitizer and LCD panel together? Don't want to seperate apart digitizer and LCD .prefer easier fixing
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Anyone has suggestion on defy front glass casing with digitizer and lcd attached? It easier to fix then seperate digitizer and lcd screen

Have you looked around on Amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=mobile&field-keywords=defy+screen

Try cnn.cn
Hi,
I had to replace the screen on my defy once. It was a major chore. I ended up scratching the frame while prying off the screen (its stuck on with some pretty strong glue). I also had to use my own glue - I used water proof clear silicon. When I got it together, my Defy looked beat up. The silicon was too thick and I ended up cracking the frame near the screws.
I recently ordered the housing, screen from: www.cnn.cn . And while it was expensive, it came with a sticky outline that I used to easily replace the screen. I was able to discard the frame of my first defy with the nicks. The end results is that my defy looks like new, even though the back and side might have some nicks and cuts.
I think the store ships from HK. It took a while for it to arrive, but it usually does arrive. I'd recommend it.
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EDIT: I just reread and you probably will just need to replace the LCD and not the Digitizer. The Digitizer is glued on to the frame but the LCD underneath is free and pushed by the mainboard to the digitizer. You do not need to replace the digitizer in order to correct the LCD issues. In anycase, the choice is yours. CNN.cn does not sell the LCD however.

Ptikjp said:
Hi,
I had to replace the screen on my defy once. It was a major chore. I ended up scratching the frame while prying off the screen (its stuck on with some pretty strong glue). I also had to use my own glue - I used water proof clear silicon. When I got it together, my Defy looked beat up. The silicon was too thick and I ended up cracking the frame near the screws.
I recently ordered the housing, screen from: www.cnn.cn . And while it was expensive, it came with a sticky outline that I used to easily replace the screen. I was able to discard the frame of my first defy with the nicks. The end results is that my defy looks like new, even though the back and side might have some nicks and cuts.
I think the store ships from HK. It took a while for it to arrive, but it usually does arrive. I'd recommend it.
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EDIT: I just reread and you probably will just need to replace the LCD and not the Digitizer. The Digitizer is glued on to the frame but the LCD underneath is free and pushed by the mainboard to the digitizer. You do not need to replace the digitizer in order to correct the LCD issues. In anycase, the choice is yours. CNN.cn does not sell the LCD however.
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Wow thanks buddy!! The digitizer is working 100%, usable. The only problem is black dead pixel even reboot to recovery mode, the black dot still can be seen in blue wordings in recovering mode. Since the changing the LCD doesn't require changing the digitizer, That save lots of money.
Heard LCD sceen has to be OEM cos compatibe may not boot up?

defybest said:
Wow thanks buddy!! The digitizer is working 100%, usable. The only problem is black dead pixel even reboot to recovery mode, the black dot still can be seen in blue wordings in recovering mode. Since the changing the LCD doesn't require changing the digitizer, That save lots of money.
Heard LCD sceen has to be OEM cos compatibe may not boot up?
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I would always go with oem. The lcd is buy far way more expensive than the digitizer unfortunately. Good luck.

HTC One V Screen replacement

I had broken my One V's Display Glass screen a month ago, the HTC authorized service center informed that the LCD as well as the display glass screen has to be replaced even though just the screen is damaged, the LCD is fine. They said that the replacement part comes bundled with LCD and the glass screen. The cost of replacement will come to Rs.5000 (~100$)
I searched ebay and found replacement glass screens available for as low as 20$.
Should I buy the replacement screen available on ebay? I have no experience in cell phone repairs and this will be risky.

sparxone said:
I had broken my One V's Display Glass screen a month ago, the HTC authorized service center informed that the LCD as well as the display glass screen has to be replaced even though just the screen is damaged, the LCD is fine. They said that the replacement part comes bundled with LCD and the glass screen. The cost of replacement will come to Rs.5000 (~100$)
I searched ebay and found replacement glass screens available for as low as 20$.
Should I buy the replacement screen available on ebay? I have no experience in cell phone repairs and this will be risky.
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IF you have no experience i suggest you go to the service centre as you COULD damage your phone further more...

Isn't the One V's LCD fused to the glass and inseparable? Those Ebay sellers are probably misleading you.
If you want to try anyway, you should have a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w96ldQq5Q2k to see what's involved.
This is what I had read... "It’s also laminated to the glass front, making for superb viewing angles" from the Verge review (http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/18/2950522/htc-one-v-review#section_4)

sparxone said:
I had broken my One V's Display Glass screen a month ago, the HTC authorized service center informed that the LCD as well as the display glass screen has to be replaced even though just the screen is damaged, the LCD is fine. They said that the replacement part comes bundled with LCD and the glass screen. The cost of replacement will come to Rs.5000 (~100$)
I searched ebay and found replacement glass screens available for as low as 20$.
Should I buy the replacement screen available on ebay? I have no experience in cell phone repairs and this will be risky.
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I have replaced countless touch screens in my life, but even I won't really think about the V because of the unibody housing. Even with proper instructions and good quality tools and materials (silica glue, alcohol for cleaning and so on...) it will be hell of a job. I personaly don't think that $100 is a high price for OEM parts replaced by the authorised service.
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klosik said:
Isn't the One V's LCD fused to the glass and inseparable? Those Ebay sellers are probably misleading you.
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they are not fused together, just glued with special silica glue and tempered. It is replaceable, but it is hard enough for a pro.
If you want to maintain the good quality of the display, you will need to clean troughoutly the LCD with absolute alcohol, or any spec. cleaning liquid in a "cleen room" for not to contaminate it after cleaning, then glue them together with proper silica glue evenly troughout the whole contour of the screen. It is hard work and damn expensive, thus oem will replace the whole screen-touch screen parts.

Thanks for the opinions. I will go with replacement from service center.

Same here!
Hey. I dropped my One V from the bed today morning! :crying: It got a huge crack on the top left!
The crack is not on "the screen" but it still looks pretty awful :-( I have attached the pics. See the last pic for the crack.
What should i do? Please suggest cost-effective methods. Any help is appreciated.

mandarmahajan1996 said:
Hey. I dropped my One V from the bed today morning! :crying: It got a huge crack on the top left!
The crack is not on "the screen" but it still looks pretty awful :-( I have attached the pics. See the last pic for the crack.
What should i do? Please suggest cost-effective methods. Any help is appreciated.
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if the touch and everything else still works...then live with it...or you can pay to have it repaired by HTC

I thought one V had Corning gorilla glass.
It's not supposed to break that easily wtf?

You can smash a diamond with a hammer. Like Gorilla glass, it is very hard and almost impossible to scratch, but can be easily shattered by sufficient impact shock.

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I have broken my touch screen,and buy a new touch screen by TAOBAO.COM(Like ebay).And I have to face the problem:how to replace it....
My touch screen is seriously damaged,and should I do it by myself?
My idea is break the touch screen carefully to avoid damage the LCD screen,does it possible?
My first phone is touch diamond and have the same problem....Then I damaged the touch screen and the lcd screen both....I do not want it happened again...
Anyone can give my some advice?
It is too expensive for me to replace it by service centre....And some pros says that will takes $30 to help me.....
Thx

Has anyone had success(or failure) with this yet?

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w96ldQq5Q2k
If you know what is going on, than try. If not then no. A pro is needed, if you want good product at the and.

just a heads up guys, a CDMA Screen will NOT work on the GSM phone

No gorilla glass for OneV
tranceph0rmer said:
I thought one V had Corning gorilla glass.
It's not supposed to break that easily wtf?
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One V does not come with Corning gorilla glass.. This was discussed even in some other threads. Even if it have, gorilla glass will only be scratch-resistant and not break-resistant.

I'm getting mine fixed tomorrow as ive cracked the screen also.
The shop thats fixing it confirmed the lcd is bundled with the glass.
It's costing me £50 for the screen and £20 to fit it.
these screens seem very easy to break as my wife has cracked hers now also so I suppose the golden rule is be extra careful with these phones.
I had a wildfire a wildfire s and a desire and never cracked one of them and i'd dropped them all a lot harder than my hov ( which only fell 2ft ). I conclude its down to the raised effect of the glass.

this is because HOV doesn't come with gorilla glass

YouTube maybe???
this post had no solutions so I just opened YOUTUBE and searched for it
complete screen with digitizer replacement video tutorial
here is a link ))) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ePC3FbegM (Russian Language)
if you don´t understand, just look at the video it's not that important to hear what they are saying. If you want, turn on captions ))
and this one is pretty detailed too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxu4wh5jgMk (German language)
and I continued to search and found another videos ))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499K4_-xq98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPasbSobzwA
ENJOY!!!!
Feel free click thanks button XD

Ken-Shi_Kun said:
I have replaced countless touch screens in my life, but even I won't really think about the V because of the unibody housing. Even with proper instructions and good quality tools and materials (silica glue, alcohol for cleaning and so on...) it will be hell of a job. I personaly don't think that $100 is a high price for OEM parts replaced by the authorised service.
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They are not fused together, just glued with special silica glue and tempered. It is replaceable, but it is hard enough for a pro.
If you want to maintain the good quality of the display, you will need to clean troughoutly the LCD with absolute alcohol, or any spec. cleaning liquid in a "cleen room" for not to contaminate it after cleaning, then glue them together with proper silica glue evenly troughout the whole contour of the screen. It is hard work and damn expensive, thus oem will replace the whole screen-touch screen parts.
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There is a video on YouTube decomposing and reuniting the whole machine and we were said it is hard to nicely reunite the machine.
I have thus a request, are there chemical solutions melting silica glues with no damages to the whole machine?

adal5586 said:
There is a video on YouTube decomposing and reuniting the whole machine and we were said it is hard to nicely reunite the machine.
I have thus a request, are there chemical solutions melting silica glues with no damages to the whole machine?
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Apparently no, or none that can be brought off from a shelf. Cured silica based optical glue can only be dissolved with highly toxic and flammable solutions only. You can altough soften them with denaturetad alcohol or xylene, but there is a high chance you damage the display panel itself with them. Altoug I am talking about the dismantling of the touch panel and the display panel here.
The machine and the display unit (the two of them together) is just glued with standard heat activated glue, it can be softened with denaturated alcohol (which does not harms the other parts) or heat, and the the unit can be brought of from the phone (with phisical force of course). You can glue it together again with standard double sided glue tapes (2 or 1mm width) you can ebay them for. I haven't dismantled One V as of now, but I had a Desire X wich also had a unibody aluminium housing and a unified display panel, but there the whole unit was damaged, so damaging them wasn't a problem when dismantling it, and a prebuild unit was the replacement.

Replacing screen?

Just had someone bring me a Galaxy Note 2 to repair and they bought the replacement part off ebay. However all they have got is just a front piece of glass with no digitizer attached, is this correct? Normally im used to front screens having the digitizer attached or is it easy to detach from the broken old screen
Is there a guide anywhere for this?

There's a few threads on this around, but as far as I know, you need to use a heat gun to remove the glue on the digitizer.
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Neo1607 said:
Just had someone bring me a Galaxy Note 2 to repair and they bought the replacement part off ebay. However all they have got is just a front piece of glass with no digitizer attached, is this correct? Normally im used to front screens having the digitizer attached or is it easy to detach from the broken old screen
Is there a guide anywhere for this?
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no way mate. don't bother to anything with that cheapo. glass is always attached to the digitizer. they bought the cheapest thing they found.
i have found over the years that saving some money is not the best choice in comparison to user experience or other arising problems.
http://parts4mobiles.com/acatalog/S...-Lcd-Screen-with-Digitizer-GH97-14112A-1.html
this is cheaper than ebay which they ask for 166 pounds

Yeah, heat gun will melt the adhesive enough to separate the lcd. But its a very, very difficult process that will more likely than not end up with a damaged lcd or poor reseal.
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mariosraptor is right. Glass is always sold with digitizer (it is one item). I haven't heard about clean glass without capacitive layer. You can buy either digitizer glass or complete digitizer glass with factory glued LCD module. This one's more expensive, but you have less work with replacing.
Anyway: buying only digitizer glass for this kind of phones (Note 2, S3, iPhone 4<, newer HTCs...) is waste of time and nerves. It is nearly impossible to separate LCD from digitizer. Buying complete set of digitizer & LCD is the best what you can do for your phone.

Yeah i didn't think the glass came seperate from the digitizer, i have repaired over 400 iphones and have done about 20 galaxy s2 and s3's and never have i seen just the piece of glass without a digitizer on it, i will tell the woman she needs a whole new screen, i think she did go for the cheapest option
This is actually what she ordered:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Gray-...s=63&clkid=5413496726471672632&_qi=RTM1319883

It obviously doesn't have flex, so it is only pure glass. I don't understand, why would any serious seller offer this kind of items.

[hardware] any complete tutorials to replace the digitizer?

I dropped my g3 and cracked the digitizer... the screen is still fine... but I can't find any diy tutorials for digitizer replacement...
anybody know some tutorials or videos?

hyeclass said:
I dropped my g3 and cracked the digitizer... the screen is still fine... but I can't find any diy tutorials for digitizer replacement...
anybody know some tutorials or videos?
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You will need a LCD digitizer separating machine since the digitizer is hermetically sealed to the LCD. These machines can be found on eBay ranging anywhere between $100 to $300 or more. Look here on how to disassemble the LG G3.
http://www.etradesupply.com/blog/cost-of-repairing-a-cracked-screen-on-the-lg-g3/
This website lists the component costs of the glass, digitizer, lcd and lcd assembly. You may just want to send it to LG for repair if you have phone insurance. The deductible is cheaper than the total cost of the parts and separating machine. Here is the URL for separating the digitizer. http://www.etradesupply.com/blog/replace-glass-screen-galaxy-smartphones/
Although it says galaxy smartphones, the procedure is the same for all smartphones.

hwong96 said:
You will need a LCD digitizer separating machine since the digitizer is hermetically sealed to the LCD. These machines can be found on eBay ranging anywhere between $100 to $300 or more. Look here on how to disassemble the LG G3.
http://www.etradesupply.com/blog/cost-of-repairing-a-cracked-screen-on-the-lg-g3/
This website lists the component costs of the glass, digitizer, lcd and lcd assembly. You may just want to send it to LG for repair if you have phone insurance. The deductible is cheaper than the total cost of the parts and separating machine. Here is the URL for separating the digitizer. http://www.etradesupply.com/blog/replace-glass-screen-galaxy-smartphones/
Although it says galaxy smartphones, the procedure is the same for all smartphones.
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I read somewhere on another post that you could just use beans or rice to heat up the screen and seperate it. but how do you glue back the new digitizer?

hyeclass said:
I read somewhere on another post that you could just use beans or rice to heat up the screen and seperate it. but how do you glue back the new digitizer?
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Didn't you read the second link I listed? Step #4 Double sided adhesive and roll out air pockets after adhering the digitizer to glass. Then place in vacuum machine to remove all air pockets. Never heard of rice and beans method. Do you eat the rice and beans afterwards?