I know I didn't brick my phone because I can still get into bootloader. I've tried to connect to Odin (several times following instructions to remove battery, restart pc, etc) and Odin won't recognize phone in bootloader. I was trying to update to gingerbread 2.3.5 using Odin and it got stuck. it said 'writing, wait 2 minutes' and I waited 8 mins and it never did anything. was I just inpatient? Now when I try to restart my phone it tells me manual files were installed and to hit the OK button. I have no OK button and I've tried all the screen buttons and the 3 hardware buttons to select 'reboot' as instructed per the phone and none work. So I pull the battery and start the vicious cycle all over again. I've been searching and searching (for the past 2hrs) trying to solve this on my own and I'm stuck. I need this phone as it's my work phone and I just got it Friday! (owned by me, not my company thankfully!) please help. thank you.
lol looks like u got urself a sweet paperweight haha. 1st of all make sure u have all the drivers installed, secondly it might be ur usb cable too
klyang88 said:
lol looks like u got urself a sweet paperweight haha. 1st of all make sure u have all the drivers installed, secondly it might be ur usb cable too
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I could previously connect to Odin so I wouldn't think it was the drivers or the cable. I hope I didn't really brick it! I can't afford a new one! booo
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I could previously connect to Odin so I wouldn't think it was the drivers or the cable. I hope I didn't really brick it! I can't afford a new one! booo
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have u tried a different usb plug in hole?
Pulling the cable on a Odin flash is the quickest way to ruin your phone. Should have left it plugged in and looked around real quick for an answer.
klyang88 said:
have u tried a different usb plug in hole?
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I have and another computer. still no luck. Won't recognize it.
tenaciousj said:
Pulling the cable on a Odin flash is the quickest way to ruin your phone. Should have left it plugged in and looked around real quick for an answer.
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doesn't help to tell me what I should've done. Is this fixable or not?
nursemm05 said:
I have and another computer. still no luck. Won't recognize it.
doesn't help to tell me what I should've done. Is this fixable or not?
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if u can still get into odin mode, then yes it should still be fixable
The only thing I can think of as I have never seen this B4. try holding power down,it takes awhile but it should reboot. I will try to get ahold of more info for you. No promises though. But rule of thumb Be patient.
One last thing where did you get the update from? ie 2.3.5. It helps to know what you were trying to flash.
Indrid Cole said:
The only thing I can think of as I have never seen this B4. try holding power down,it takes awhile but it should reboot. I will try to get ahold of more info for you. No promises though. But rule of thumb Be patient.
One last thing where did you get the update from? ie 2.3.5. It helps to know what you were trying to flash.
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just tried that and it gives me the same screen I was getting when I just pressed the power button to turn on. then it says to press OK to reboot and none of the buttons work to reboot.
nursemm05 said:
I know I didn't brick my phone because I can still get into bootloader. I've tried to connect to Odin (several times following instructions to remove battery, restart pc, etc) and Odin won't recognize phone in bootloader. I was trying to update to gingerbread 2.3.5 using Odin and it got stuck. it said 'writing, wait 2 minutes' and I waited 8 mins and it never did anything. was I just inpatient? Now when I try to restart my phone it tells me manual files were installed and to hit the OK button. I have no OK button and I've tried all the screen buttons and the 3 hardware buttons to select 'reboot' as instructed per the phone and none work. So I pull the battery and start the vicious cycle all over again. I've been searching and searching (for the past 2hrs) trying to solve this on my own and I'm stuck. I need this phone as it's my work phone and I just got it Friday! (owned by me, not my company thankfully!) please help. thank you.
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Of the responses so far, I'd start with a new microUSB cable. Whether the current cable worked 30 seconds ago or not, that could certainly be a potential issue, might as well rule it out.
After that, a few things to consider:
1) Can you get into recovery? [Hold Vol. Up] + [Power] for as long as it takes to get to the recovery screen (anywhere from 15 seconds to two minutes of solid holding.) If you can get to recovery, you are going to be in business. If after 120 seconds it hasn't gone into recovery, move on.
2) In your post, you refer to "bootloader", technically correct, but want to make sure you are referring to Odin download mode. The whole "instructions to remove battery, restart pc, etc" throws me off, you shouldn't have to do any of that. Just to make sure, what you want to do is:
Start up Odin 1.85 on your PC
Power down phone
Wait for capacitative button lights to turn off
Simultaneously Press and Hold [Power] + [Vol. Dn] until confirmation screen appears
Press [Vol. Up] to enter Download mode
Connect USB cable to the phone and then to the PC
ODIN should show COM port in first slot
3) If you can successfully get into ODM and the COM port in the first slot lights up, you are golden. Follow the rest of the steps here and you are all set to move forward or hang out from that point.
4) "I was trying to update to gingerbread 2.3.5 using Odin and it got stuck. it said 'writing, wait 2 minutes' and I waited 8 mins" I'm thinking maybe you flashed with Bootloader, Phone or CSC selected rather than PDA in the Odin menu. If that is the case you should still be able to get into ODM as shown above.
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1) Can you get into recovery? [Hold Vol. Up] + [Power] for as long as it takes to get to the recovery screen (anywhere from 15 seconds to two minutes of solid holding.) If you can get to recovery, you are going to be in business. If after 120 seconds it hasn't gone into recovery, move on.
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yes, that is where it tells me media files have been installed and to press OK to reboot the phone (and other options to wipe data, cache, etc). It is not CWM recovery.
2) In your post, you refer to "bootloader", technically correct, but want to make sure you are referring to Odin download mode. The whole "instructions to remove battery, restart pc, etc" throws me off, you shouldn't have to do any of that. Just to make sure, what you want to do is:
Start up Odin 1.85 on your PC
Power down phone
Wait for capacitative button lights to turn off
Simultaneously Press and Hold [Power] + [Vol. Dn] until confirmation screen appears
Press [Vol. Up] to enter Download mode
Connect USB cable to the phone and then to the PC
ODIN should show COM port in first slot
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Yes, Odin mode by doing what you said. I was referring to what to do if Odin won't connect. Remove battery, restart PC and try to reconnect to Odin
3) If you can successfully get into ODM and the COM port in the first slot lights up, you are golden. Follow the rest of the steps here and you are all set to move forward or hang out from that point.
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therein lies the problem, I can't get the first slot to show yellow to show it's connected.
4) "I was trying to update to gingerbread 2.3.5 using Odin and it got stuck. it said 'writing, wait 2 minutes' and I waited 8 mins" I'm thinking maybe you flashed with Bootloader, Phone or CSC selected rather than PDA in the Odin menu. If that is the case you should still be able to get into ODM as shown above.
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yes. I followed these instructions -
Check only Re partition, Auto reboot & F. Reset time in option
Put the files like this in Odin:
PIT = u1_02_20110310_emmc_EXT4.pit,
PDA = CODE_I9100XXKI3_CL577579_REV02_user_low_ship.tar.md5,
PHONE= MODEM_I9100XXKI3_REV_02_CL1062028.tar.md5,
CSC = GT-I9100-CSC-MULTI-OXAKI3.tar.md5
Hit the start button and process will begin
just tried another cable, no joy.
nursemm05 said:
yes, that is where it tells me media files have been installed and to press OK to reboot the phone (and other options to wipe data, cache, etc). It is not CWM recovery.
Yes, Odin mode by doing what you said. I was referring to what to do if Odin won't connect. Remove battery, restart PC and try to reconnect to Odin
therein lies the problem, I can't get the first slot to show yellow to show it's connected.
yes. I followed these instructions -
Check only Re partition, Auto reboot & F. Reset time in option
Put the files like this in Odin:
PIT = u1_02_20110310_emmc_EXT4.pit,
PDA = CODE_I9100XXKI3_CL577579_REV02_user_low_ship.tar.md5,
PHONE= MODEM_I9100XXKI3_REV_02_CL1062028.tar.md5,
CSC = GT-I9100-CSC-MULTI-OXAKI3.tar.md5
Hit the start button and process will begin
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"GT-I9100-CSC-MULTI-OXAKI3.tar.md5"? Aren't you on the E4GT? So flashing all of these files for an international SGSII would be the first issue. What forum did you get these from?
This might be a big issue afterall. Get back to me on where you got the files and I'll see if I can come up with something in the meantime.
EDIT: One thing that will work for sure, but you'd have to wait for it to come in is a $2 jig. Once you get it, you'll back in business in less than 2 seconds. Mine took 5 days via standard shipping. You could do expedited shipping if you need it faster. In lieu of that, I will keep thinking about what you can do tonight.
EDIT 2: I know you said that you have driver's installed an all, but if you downloaded them where you got those files, they might not be what you need for this phone. You might try going to the E4GT Auto Root thread and get everything you need to start fresh from there.
Then/or try this again:
Disconnect phone, and remove battery (wait 30 -60 seconds or so).
Re-insert the battery and power the phone as I noted before by simultaneously pressing and holding [Power] + [Vol. Dn] until confirmation screen appears
Press [Vol. Up] to enter Download mode
Make sure NPS and KIES are NOT running IMPORTANT
Start up Odin v1.85
Keep trying to connect the phone to get a COM port lit. If it's not working, try changing USB ports. Try every port on your PC.
Keep trying, I've seen odin fail to recognize phones over and over and then
suddenly recognize it out of nowhere.
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"GT-I9100-CSC-MULTI-OXAKI3.tar.md5"? Aren't you on the E4GT? So flashing all of these files for an international SGSII would be the first issue. What forum did you get these from?
This might be a big issue afterall. Get back to me on where you got the files and I'll see if I can come up with something in the meantime.
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oh crap! I just saw the GT-I9100 and thought I was good. I don't remember when I got them originally but just found it again here
Just_s said:
EDIT: One thing that will work for sure, but you'd have to wait for it to come in is a $2 jig. Once you get it, you'll back in business in less than 2 seconds. Mine took 5 days via standard shipping. You could do expedited shipping if you need it faster. In lieu of that, I will keep thinking about what you can do tonight.
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this will work even though I can get into odin download mode? I can wait a few days instead of buying a new phone if it will really work!
nursemm05 said:
this will work even though I can get into odin download mode? I can wait a few days instead of buying a new phone if it will really work!
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Yes, the jig should definitely work and it is a good idea to have one around anyway, just in case you ever need to go back to stock to return the phone or something.
But I am certain you can fix it at home in the meantime. I just need to remember or find how.
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Yes, the jig should definitely work and it is a good idea to have one around anyway, just in case you ever need to go back to stock to return the phone or something.
But I am certain you can fix it at home in the meantime. I just need to remember or find how.
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I am going to order one just in case but in the meantime, going to try one more time to get Odin to cooperate then I'm done for the night. Sadly work calls tomorrow and I can't do any of this on my work computer either thank you SOOO much for all your help!
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oh crap! I just saw the GT-I9100 and thought I was good. I don't remember when I got them originally but just found it again here
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Yeah, definitely not the right files for our phone, but don't worry, yet, I think you can recover from this. The fear is that the radio is borked as those are GSM phones and we are a CDMA phone. I haven't really read much about this issue, but I know it has happened to others. If you have time, you might search around for something like "oops, flashed SGSII GSM files on my E4GT CDMA phone" or something like that and see if anyone else figured out the fix.
I did not think there was a update to 2.3.5 for the epic 4g touch. I thought only the European versions received that update. The only update I know of for our phones was 2.3.6.
Plz link or direct where you downloaded this update you flashed. If it is the European update you will need to install the drivers for that model for Odin to recognize your phone. Then reflash the proper update.
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Indrid Cole said:
I did not think there was a update to 2.3.5 for the epic 4g touch. I thought only the European versions received that update. The only update I know of for our phones was 2.3.6.
Plz link or direct where you downloaded this update you flashed. If it is the European update you will need to install the drivers for that model for Odin to recognize your phone. Then reflash the proper update.
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Wow bythe time I typed this all is revealed. The 2.3.5 was the giveaway.
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Indrid Cole said:
I did not think there was a update to 2.3.5 for the epic 4g touch. I thought only the European versions received that update. The only update I know of for our phones was 2.3.6.
Plz link or direct where you downloaded this update you flashed. If it is the European update you will need to install the drivers for that model for Odin to recognize your phone. Then reflash the proper update.
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Wow bythe time I typed this all is revealed. The 2.3.5 was the giveaway.
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It should not kill your radio. I fixed a buddys phone that kinda did the same thing. Main thing is get the drivers for the euro sgs 2. Then Odin should see your device. Then use just s's guide from there.
One last thing the jig is not be needed. You can already get into download mode. Your phone is ready for flashing. What you need are drivers for the the computer to recognize your phone.
Indrid Cole said:
...the European update you will need to install the drivers for that model for Odin to recognize your phone. Then reflash the proper update.
It should not kill your radio. I fixed a buddys phone that kinda did the same thing. Main thing is get the drivers for the euro sgs 2. Then Odin should see your device. Then use just s's guide from there.
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Yep, this is exactly right.
@nursemm05 you need to find and install the drivers for the phone who's files you flashed. Make sure you know where you save the driver files and where they are installed. In fact, make a backup of your system so that you can restore your PC after you get your ET4G back to good.
Once you can get back into Odin, flash the tar file (singular) that I linked to and you will be back at stock. Then you can hit the other links and you will be very happy with your new setup.
Then do a system restore on your PC to before the i9000 driver's were installed and you should be back to good there as well.
Good luck!
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Is anyone manage to brick the phone already?
How likely/ or stupidity you need to actually bricking the phone?
What is a NO NO and how to avoid it?
That's the question.. thanks!
Main thing is read as much as you can before you do any changes, it helps to check what few sites say.
When I rooted my phone I could not get it to run the update part, tried time and time again, one site said "rename the file to update.zip and paste it" then I read on another site to just call it update as it is already a zip file.....and then it worked, small bit of detail like that stopped it working to start with so if I was you I check a few sites and get all the info you need, but also as many would say if you are that unsure dont take the risk and wait for samsung updates with Kies.
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if you are that unsure dont take the risk and wait for samsung updates with Kies.
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Kies actually failed to update my phone, I have the Korean Galaxy S SHW-M100S, and it showed an update was available. So, I thought I was bricked for about 30 mins, kept trying to get it to work itself out of the problem in recovery mode, after about 4 tries (1 reboot of Windows, plus changing USB ports and 2nd try with this static new config) eventually it did, thank God.
Do not remove usb while in the middle of flashing with odin
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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I was gonna say something along the lines of a smart ass, but I can't. That sucks.
why would you do a battery pull?
madjsp said:
I was gonna say something along the lines of a smart ass, but I can't. That sucks.
why would you do a battery pull?
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I've been flashing all night and wanted to do it "right" this time....realized my SIM and SD card were still in there mid-flash so wanted to pull them and start clean..........................
Yeah....don't do that.
Guess I'll be that "guy" paying a visit to the local AT&T shop tomorrow....
Luckily I'm w/in my 14 days since getting it....
delete. ......
amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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I've removed the cable half way and rebooted, and it was fine..
You simply remove the USB cable, battery again, put the battery in, and you'll be able to get to downloader mode.
The phone seems to have a component that ODIN doesn't touch that is read-only that handles download mode. Most hardware devices tend to have safeguards. I haven't confirmed this, but I've noticed the same applies to NAS devices (which tend to have a special redboot which uses tftp).
I have still yet to have seen any evidence of anyone permanently bricking their phone, but I've seen a few cases of "oops, got it working again".
Remember, Samsung are eager to reduce their support costs, and failsafe's are cheap and easy to add.
yes, the odin doesn't touch the 'bootloader' , or the small piece of code that enable the download mode, so there's no way you can brick the phone.
I have tried to repartition the phone while flashing firmware that has nothing except the csc data (i.e. no kernel, no factory rfs, etc) and the flash procedure went succesfully but in actual fact, my phone contains a new set of partitions that contain nothing except the small csc data.
and i still able to reflash, although I must make sure that the phone is totally shutdown (i.e. take out battery, let it stay for awhile before putting back)
andrewluecke said:
I've removed the cable half way and rebooted, and it was fine..
You simply remove the USB cable, battery again, put the battery in, and you'll be able to get to downloader mode.
The phone seems to have a component that ODIN doesn't touch that is read-only that handles download mode. Most hardware devices tend to have safeguards. I haven't confirmed this, but I've noticed the same applies to NAS devices (which tend to have a special redboot which uses tftp).
I have still yet to have seen any evidence of anyone permanently bricking their phone, but I've seen a few cases of "oops, got it working again".
Remember, Samsung are eager to reduce their support costs, and failsafe's are cheap and easy to add.
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I thought in the Big FAQ, it said... do not disconnect the usb-cable but to remove the battery if want to interrupt it...
7.The phone will be flashed and once it’s finished, it will boot up. (Do NOT disconnect the usb-cable, remove the battery or otherwise interrupt this process!)
amerikian said:
Wanna know HOT TO BRICK YOUR PHONE? Right when ODIN start flashing, pull the battery on your phone and see what happens.
I can't even boot up!
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Similar happened to me,although I didnt pull the battery, the phone just disconnected halfway through the flash.
Had half hour of panic,where I thought it was bricked.
Had to do a few battery pulls,restart PC a couple of times and mess around with different USB ports,but finally got it working.
Have flashed a 3 times since without a problem.
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I thought in the Big FAQ, it said... do not disconnect the usb-cable but to remove the battery if want to interrupt it...
7.The phone will be flashed and once it’s finished, it will boot up. (Do NOT disconnect the usb-cable, remove the battery or otherwise interrupt this process!)
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That means you shouldn't do any of those things! So don't disconnect usb, don't remove the battery and don't interrupt the process.
zenkinz said:
yes, the odin doesn't touch the 'bootloader' , or the small piece of code that enable the download mode, so there's no way you can brick the phone.
I have tried to repartition the phone while flashing firmware that has nothing except the csc data (i.e. no kernel, no factory rfs, etc) and the flash procedure went succesfully but in actual fact, my phone contains a new set of partitions that contain nothing except the small csc data.
and i still able to reflash, although I must make sure that the phone is totally shutdown (i.e. take out battery, let it stay for awhile before putting back)
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Are you sure that flashing (through ODIN) in any case never touch that "Download Mode" piece of code ? Even you select all the options in ODIN ?
Can anyone confirm this ? Actually I want to play with Kernel and RFS (have some ideas to try) but afraid of full bricking. So if this download mode is always present then I can play with it without any problem.
Waiting for response.
amerikian said:
I've been flashing all night and wanted to do it "right" this time....realized my SIM and SD card were still in there mid-flash so wanted to pull them and start clean..........................
Yeah....don't do that.
Guess I'll be that "guy" paying a visit to the local AT&T shop tomorrow....
Luckily I'm w/in my 14 days since getting it....
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Believe me! you can still access the download menu
The bootloader is almost always writeprotected and cannot be overwritten. You would probably have to connect a cable to some internal port like Jtag to be able to reflash the bootloader section. Atleast that is the case in 99% of all bootloaders. Im very certain that you cannot cripple the bootloader.
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That means you shouldn't do any of those things! So don't disconnect usb, don't remove the battery and don't interrupt the process.
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gosh man, thanks correcting me but if that's the case, what should i do if it doesn't reboot by itself?
take out the battery, wait for 30 to 60 secs, put the battery in and start phone with vol down + menu + power
Don't disconnect the usb or do anything else while flashing!!!
I removed the usb cable when it started flashing (i thinked it was stuck, happens sometimes), and since it does not boot anymore. I press the power button, volUp + home + power, volDown + home + power... nothing happens.... it's dead, doesn't turn on at all...
after all i have read i think it's almost impossible to brick the sgs since you always get back into download-mode. the only case i read where i believe that it's a goner is flashing with the wrong (in this case the at&t) odin version. those guy's just got a white sreen with at&t logo at boot. they didn't get into download mode any more because the button mapping on the captivate is different ... so thats really bad luck, dont't try that at home
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after all i have read i think it's almost impossible to brick the sgs since you always get back into download-mode. the only case i read where i believe that it's a goner is flashing with the wrong (in this case the at&t) odin version. those guy's just got a white sreen with at&t logo at boot. they didn't get into download mode any more because the button mapping on the captivate is different ... so thats really bad luck, dont't try that at home
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well, mine doesn't boot at all, and i flashed (technically not, because i removed the usb cable at the very start) with the RIGHT odin version
Maybe if it fails when flashig sbl (secondary boot loader ) you can't go into download/recovery mode...
I think I can use a little help.
I tried to update my SGS from I9000XXJF3 to I9000XXJF7.
I followed the steps with Odin etc etc....bu now my device does not reboot anymore! It only shows a white screen with blue letters "AT&T WORLD PHONE".
I can not get the device in download mode or recovery mode anymore. When I'm pushing volume down + home + on/off button, it shows the same white screen.
What can I do now? I hope I didn't brick the device....
Can't even get into the menus to flash? Wow.. I don't think you can fix that.
Nope... this sucks big time! Pff I cant stand it anymore...i go to take a sleep now. Tomorrow i try again, but i dont feel like it is going to work!
I tried everything, volume up + home + on/off button = White screen
volume down + home + on/off button = White screen..
jos_jalla said:
I think I can use a little help.
I tried to update my SGS from I9000XXJF3 to I9000XXJF7.
I followed the steps with Odin etc etc....bu now my device does not reboot anymore! It only shows a white screen with blue letters "AT&T WORLD PHONE".
I can not get the device in download mode or recovery mode anymore. When I'm pushing volume down + home + on/off button, it shows the same white screen.
What can I do now? I hope I didn't brick the device....
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AT&T...
Mate, did you flash Captivate with I9000 firmware? They are, kind of, like 2 different phones...
You can use I9000 firmware, but only if you use standard modem file (that from what I briefly read, I can be completely wrong).
jos_jalla said:
I think I can use a little help.
I tried to update my SGS from I9000XXJF3 to I9000XXJF7.
I followed the steps with Odin etc etc....bu now my device does not reboot anymore! It only shows a white screen with blue letters "AT&T WORLD PHONE".
I can not get the device in download mode or recovery mode anymore. When I'm pushing volume down + home + on/off button, it shows the same white screen.
What can I do now? I hope I didn't brick the device....
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Did you remove the battery and force a fresh boot into download mode?
And yeah. Are you sure you don't have a captivate and not a SGS i9000?
Remove the battery which might force a reset of the device.
Once you put the battery back in see if you can get into Download Mode again then go through the reflash firmware again. Make sure your using the correct files.
Darkstriker said:
Did you remove the battery and force a fresh boot into download mode?
And yeah. Are you sure you don't have a captivate and not a SGS i9000?
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Beat me to it.
I have the same problem, I tried to get the phone into download or recovery mode, but no success, it switches between AT&T white screen and black screen all the time...I'm trying since last night, this is frustrating...
Yes, exactly the same problem with my i9000. When I try to enter in donwnload mode I have a white screen with a blue text "AT&T world phone" and it is blincking.
Can't enter in download mode, can't flash new ROM witk Kies......I can do nothing...
Can anyone help me please? There is any chance to recover my phone back?
Thank you very much.
My e-mail is "[email protected]"
Yes, after hours and hours of studing the problem I can confirm:
By mistake, I was using Odin for Captivate , on trying to bring back to life my i9000.
Now, what can I do? There is any chance to get the phone in to the download mode?
Thank you very much for your time and patience...
OK you used the wrong ODIN version... but I thought ODIN doesn't touch the bootloader? So if this is also correct for the captivate version of ODIN, I think there is still hope.
Maybe you can find something useful in the captivate forum.
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OK you used the wrong ODIN version... but I thought ODIN doesn't touch the bootloader? So if this is also correct for the captivate version of ODIN, I think there is still hope.
Maybe you can find something useful in the captivate forum.
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good idea, i'll search in captivate forum... wish i can find something
Same Problem Here This is My most Stupid Firmware Flashing ever made.
Please Help
cant find any info in the captivate forum
Download the correct ODIN, PIT and Firmware. Set them up on your computer.
Remove the battery, SIM and SDCard from your phone. Wait a few seconds.
Re-insert your Battery only.
Put the phone into Download Mode - volume down + home + on/off button
You might need to try this a few times I don't always get it first time.
Connect the phone to your computer by USB and confirm ODIN see's it.
Then flash the firmware again.
Wait for reboot then switch off and re-insert your SIM, SDCard.
Should be right now. Fingers crossed for you.
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Download the correct ODIN, PIT and Firmware. Set them up on your computer.
Remove the battery, SIM and SDCard from your phone. Wait a few seconds.
Re-insert your Battery only.
Put the phone into Download Mode - volume down + home + on/off button
You might need to try this a few times I don't always get it first time.
Connect the phone to your computer by USB and confirm ODIN see's it.
Then flash the firmware again.
Wait for reboot then switch off and re-insert your SIM, SDCard.
Should be right now. Fingers crossed for you.
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tried this method also with no luck, tried to connect using xp sp3, osx snow leopard and windows 7, same damn white screen on and off all time
I hate to state the obvious but have you thought about going to samsung?
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I had that problem once. Thought I bricked it. The problem was fixed after I got the right pit file
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SkulleD_PT said:
I hate to state the obvious but have you thought about going to samsung?
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yes i did, but the problem is that where i live there is no AT&T which their logo is flashing onto my phone screen.
they might shoot me in the head.
I made this short video to show the problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8AIvalzBvY
Yes, this is our problem.
Our mistake is that we don't look for correct Odin3 flash tool, and we used Odin3 for Captivate.
I have try in Captivate topic maybe find something usefull, but nothing. They us a light different method to get in download mode, but it doesn't work on my phone.
Always I get the same white screen.
I really don't know if the battery is charging in this white screen.
Anyone with a bricked phone from flashing the gsm boot image, flash this via Odin as a PDA.
It will flash a stock boot image back to your device.
1. Extract Odin files to a folder from the attachment.
How to get into Download Mode (For Odin)
1. Unplug the USB cable.
2. Shut down the phone.
3. Hold down the 'HOME' + 'VOLUME DOWN' buttons and press the 'POWER' button for about 2 seconds until a WARNING! Screen appears. Press the 'VOLUME UP' button to enter Download Mode.
2. Tick 'Auto Reboot' and 'F. Reset Time' in Odin and nothing else.
3. Download the boot image and load into Odin as a PDA.
4. Click on Start to flash the image.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?crhj889aj2tricz
DO NOT UNZIP THE BOOT TAR FILE, FLASH IT AS IT IS.
Mark.
It worked perfectly on my AT&T Galaxy S3, thanks a lot mskip!!!
mskip, you are a lifesaver!!
thanks man we already had one in root guide but 2 is even better xD
Awesome, this is what I was waiting for before trying root. Thanks!
It worked perfectly on my at&t Galaxy S3!!
Thanks man, you are a lifesaver!!
Haha mskip, see what you started Thanks for getting involved. Sorry it happened in the wrong order... Needed the correct rootkit first
Ok...Looks like I'm having problems. I did the root process, seemed to work fine. Booted up fine. Installed Busybox, etc. After that, I rebooted and it won't go past the "Samsung Galaxy SIII" screen. Not responsive. I have to pull the battery. I wiped data and factor reset via CWM, but still won't boot. Installed this, nothing.
Any ideas?
What if your screen doesnt even turn on after istalling international rom?
all i get is a red led light.
vince24L said:
What if your screen doesnt even turn on after istalling international rom?
all i get is a red led light.
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Have you unplugged the usb cable, pulled the battery, replaced it then tried to boot into download mode?
If you have flashed a gsm rom then you are going to need to flash custom recovery with external sd support then copy a cwm rom across and restore it.
Mark.
CZ Eddie said:
Awesome, this is what I was waiting for before trying root. Thanks!
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Wait, I just noticed the file is only 10MB.
So this is not the factory operating system image then.
Good thing I did a nandroid before wiping everything.
Anyone know if anyone is able to flash TMO ROM's?
My flash-finger is trembling.
I unplugged, removed battery, tried every combination.
I honestly dont have a clue how to do what you just said.. copy it only an external sd card but how would i carry it over and restore from it if it wont boot up?
vince24L said:
I unplugged, removed battery, tried every combination.
I honestly dont have a clue how to do what you just said.. copy it only an external sd card but how would i carry it over and restore from it if it wont boot up?
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Your other option is to take it back to the store and tell them it wouldnt boot up after you charged it. Play dumb and they should exchange it at the shop.
Mark.
mine says fail in 1st box in odin
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my phone is basically bricked, i take out battery and it says i need to open kies and go into recovery mode...?
nay12x said:
mine says fail in 1st box in odin
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my phone is basically bricked, i take out battery and it says i need to open kies and go into recovery mode...?
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The phone says that with the battery out?
What did you do to brick it in the first place? Flash a boot image or Rom?
Try Odin a few times it may go through eventually.
Mark.
mskip said:
Try Odin a few times it may go through eventually.
Mark.
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When all else fails...this has always brought my sgs 2 back to life.
SGS3 awaiting some dev love
Life saver!!!!! Thanks!!!
mskip said:
Your other option is to take it back to the store and tell them it wouldnt boot up after you charged it. Play dumb and they should exchange it at the shop.
Mark.
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Is that XDA's stance on the risks of flashing/modding phone? Play dumb? Isn't that how this thread got started?
Surprised a senior moderator would suggest that.
I think we all know the risks...and when mistakes are made...the person making the mistake should pay. Not the company who plays no fault or the customers who's rates are hiked because of fraudulent claims.
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Well I am a royal idiot. I flashed the omega rom v6 and now my GS3 will not even turn on!!! Is there any hope for me...? Some people haven't even received their phones so I can't get another one soon...
baublitz said:
Well I am a royal idiot. I flashed the omega rom v6 and now my GS3 will not even turn on!!! Is there any hope for me...? Some people haven't even received their phones so I can't get another one soon...
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Can you get into the Download mode or is it just totally dead (no lights, no power when you turn it on)?
Mark.
I saw a couple people had the same issue that im now having but none of there solutions solved my problem
i wiped my GS3 for ATT tried to go back to a stock with root rom and when it rebooted it now just hangs at the samsung logo at boot tried re-flashing via odin with no luck also tried flashing a CWM.tar since i cant get into stock or CWM recovery to flash from there is there something im missing i know its late and maybe my brain isnt working like it should
Solved the problem myself.....and rather then just say i figured it out ill share how i did this since i watched countless videos and read endless amounts of threads and since none of them helped mem
First also try t put your phone into stock recovery mode and wipe your phone then flash this should take care of things if it doesnt try what i tried below
and i hope this can help someone else out there who has the same problem that i had all you have to do is the following i did this with obviously an AT&T model should work with others but as always try at your own risk.....
First make sure your battery has a charge even if its stuck on the boot screen its still charging....
then download KIES from samsung update it and make sure you have the latest version.
Next plug in your phone if your stuck at the samsung screen your computer will recognize your phone still at least it did with mine.
Once your done with the above open up KIES goto the top and then TOOLS and Firmware upgrade click on that enter your phone model (ATT SGH-I747) i dont get this part but next it will ask you for your SN and for some reason it doesnt recognize the SN use your IMEI
Now it should ask you a couple questions tell you its wiping your device and you will lose everything etc.....but then it will download the latest FW and begin to install everything and in about 20-25 mins everything will be back to stock
Nvm.. misread.
I'm stuck too...and Kies can't find the phone. Anyone have any other ideas? I can't even get into recovery...only download mode.
dbdynsty25 said:
I'm stuck too...and Kies can't find the phone. Anyone have any other ideas? I can't even get into recovery...only download mode.
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your computer is not seeing your phone when you plug it in or its just KIES that doesnt see it??
also im guessing you have all the correct drivers installed??
yearziro said:
your computer is not seeing your phone when you plug it in or its just KIES that doesnt see it??
also im guessing you have all the correct drivers installed??
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Yes, all drivers are installed because that's how I ODIN flashed it in the first place! Just stuck on the damn Samsung screen and I can't get Kies to connect to the phone. Not in Download Mode or when it's just stuck on that screen.
you can just hold VOL UP, HOME , POWER same time enter stock samsung recovery mode and scroll down select wipe data and cache and reboot u should good to go....
whit3gh0szt said:
you can just hold VOL UP, HOME , POWER same time enter stock samsung recovery mode and scroll down select wipe data and cache and reboot u should good to go....
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Worked, thanks! I appreciate it.
it doesnt work on mine
dbdynsty25 said:
Worked, thanks! I appreciate it.
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my cellphone reboots by itself on the samsun screen and i cant get on the recovery mode! any ideas!"
me neither
mkstf said:
my cellphone reboots by itself on the samsun screen and i cant get on the recovery mode! any ideas!"
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Yeah I can't get into recovery either, and its getting really annoying.
indieslap said:
Yeah I can't get into recovery either, and its getting really annoying.
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With the phone off, hold down VOL UP + HOME + POWER until the phone vibrates. Then let go of the power button. When you see the blue text in the top left corner of the samsung boot screen, let go of the other 2 buttons
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With the phone off, hold down VOL UP + HOME + POWER until the phone vibrates. Then let go of the power button. When you see the blue text in the top left corner of the samsung boot screen, let go of the other 2 buttons
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Okay, this brought the menu up for me, but I removed the data,cache, and reset the phone and it is still not working. Also, my phone just goes black after the Galaxy Samsung S3 logo, but the blue light in the top left is still on. Can anyone help me out?
P.S. Sorry for reviving this thread if it is too old.
Edit: I should also mention that I can still hear the sound of the phone booting up (the sound that typically occurs when the phone is on the white loading screen). However, the screen is black at this point.
cabato said:
Okay, this brought the menu up for me, but I removed the data,cache, and reset the phone and it is still not working. Also, my phone just goes black after the Galaxy Samsung S3 logo, but the blue light in the top left is still on. Can anyone help me out?
P.S. Sorry for reviving this thread if it is too old.
Edit: I should also mention that I can still hear the sound of the phone booting up (the sound that typically occurs when the phone is on the white loading screen). However, the screen is black at this point.
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You're going to have to tell us what you did (changed, flashed, etc) before all this so that we can help you
xBeerdroiDx said:
You're going to have to tell us what you did (changed, flashed, etc) before all this so that we can help you
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Ah, sorry about not providing enough information. Please keep in mind that I am very inexperienced and I may get some things incorrect just due to that. To my understanding, I went to try and root my phone, but beforehand I used the guides below to get my phone ready for the root (yes I do realize at this point that using these outdated guides was a clear mistake and I should have come to XDA instead). I flashed my phone to the stock kernel using the file that site provided, and then encountered the problem above. In my panic I have tried to restore the phone through several methods, but every time I try to load anything onto it with Odin, it doesn't complete until my phone restarts (and my phone won't boot up completely) so I can't get the pass message. Interestingly enough I did manage to get clockwork mod installed as that is what shows up when I try a secure boot using the methods that you described.
Ah, I am unfortunately not allowed to post links. The guides were off of Android Authority.
If there is any other information needed to help me please let me know and I will do my best to obtain it.
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Ah, sorry about not providing enough information. Please keep in mind that I am very inexperienced and I may get some things incorrect just due to that. To my understanding, I went to try and root my phone, but beforehand I used the guides below to get my phone ready for the root (yes I do realize at this point that using these outdated guides was a clear mistake and I should have come to XDA instead). I flashed my phone to the stock kernel using the file that site provided, and then encountered the problem above. In my panic I have tried to restore the phone through several methods, but every time I try to load anything onto it with Odin, it doesn't complete until my phone restarts (and my phone won't boot up completely) so I can't get the pass message. Interestingly enough I did manage to get clockwork mod installed as that is what shows up when I try a secure boot using the methods that you described.
Ah, I am unfortunately not allowed to post links. The guides were off of Android Authority.
If there is any other information needed to help me please let me know and I will do my best to obtain it.
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Sounds like you need to clear your cache partition and clear your dalvik cache. There are several guides on this site to help you. Choose the one that is most appropriate to what you are trying to do and follow it EXACTLY. There is one to start. Follow it from the beginning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042775
When nothing else works start over from search. You cab use download mode? First make sure you got right drivers as that can mess up Odin. Use one in my Sig if you want. Then flag stock recovery with root someone nice will part a link to it I'm on my phone can't do it. Well fix your phone
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Okay now I am running into another problem. I have tried downloading the drivers from many different places and they always seem to be correctly downloaded. That being said, I can't install the drivers after I plug my phone into the computer (after downloading and installing Samsung USB drivers). Therefore, I cannot access my phone storage to put the root zip file on it. I was still able to download the custom recovery.
Now I have gone to a different computer, and the drivers seem to install correctly, but the phone still does not appear under my computer.
Edit: I do already have a root zip file on my phone from my earlier attempt, but I install it and my phone still doesn't load up. Also, Odin still recognizes the phone.
Edit 2: Windows says that the drivers cannot recognize the device. Edit 3: "Hardware ID Missing"
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Sorry, I really need help for this. I can't install the MTP drivers even through using some of the tips on this site. That seems to be the problem with me accessing the phones storage from my computer. Does anyone have an ideas for what else I could do? Should I just take it to the store and hope they can fix it?
cabato said:
Okay now I am running into another problem. I have tried downloading the drivers from many different places and they always seem to be correctly downloaded. That being said, I can't install the drivers after I plug my phone into the computer (after downloading and installing Samsung USB drivers). Therefore, I cannot access my phone storage to put the root zip file on it. I was still able to download the custom recovery.
Now I have gone to a different computer, and the drivers seem to install correctly, but the phone still does not appear under my computer.
Edit: I do already have a root zip file on my phone from my earlier attempt, but I install it and my phone still doesn't load up. Also, Odin still recognizes the phone.
Edit 2: Windows says that the drivers cannot recognize the device. Edit 3: "Hardware ID Missing"
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go to your device manager on your computer, locate samsung drivers for your device, uninstall them
restart your computer
then plug in the phone and lets it reinstall by itself
Use my drivers in my signature
They are last good damaging drivers. Don't update them but install them and plug phone in with no internet. after install plug internet in. There good stable drivers
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I downloaded the Jedi Mind Trick JB 2 ROM and installed it via clocwork mod recovery .. That went fine but it took me a few days to realize I didnt have a working video camera anymore on my phone.. so I thought to flash a stock ROOTed rom instead...
Then I found this threat about an updated version of Jedi Mind Trick's ROM labled JB 3.. So I wiped as much as I could in recovery and chose to format all the options it gave me in recover , Format system , data , cache , emms(or something) .. and now when I boot the phone , it shows the first flash screen , and the samsung logo starts to shimmer then it reboots back to the splash screen and repeats this process everal times before just going black and sitting there..
So I've successfully bootlooped my phone doing this..
MY PROBLEM -- I don't know how to charge my phone or connect to it to install anything else..
Is this a serious problem? How can I charge my phone to continue troubleshooting it? It still has some battery to try some things but I don't know how to hook it up to transfer any other roms to it via USB cable and PC in it's current state..
I'm very computer savvy but I'm trying to learn this phone modding stuff and I realy hope I didn't brick my phone in this process.
Can someone please help me out here? I'll be on the forums religiously until I figure this out.
What should I start doing first??
Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks!
still working at it
I think I'm at the point of having to use ODIN to flash a new rom since i cannot simply copy this rom to the sdcard to use clockwork to flash it .. Am I correct on this ?
For some reason this rom I found (should be stock rooted tmobile gSII rom) does not want to open from ODIN's PDA button cause its in .zip and not .tar or anything... I'm not sure how to flash this rom with ODIN ( I'm not even 100% sure this is how its supposed to go) Any suggestions ?
phew
UPDATE - So I managed to research enough to find out that there is no way to flash a CUSTOM rom with ODIN.. SO I had to download a stock (presumably rooted) t-mobile rom and flash THAT ...
Now I'm back up with a rooted rom and will begin re-installing clockwork and then my custom deodexed rooted rom afterward.
Thanks for all who almost kinda tried to care to reply in this past 2 hours =) -- As previously mentioned.. I am a nerd.. I just suck at phone modding. Haha
So , looks like I'm in the clear now and don't need any more support on this particular topic yet.
zarklon said:
UPDATE - So I managed to research enough to find out that there is no way to flash a CUSTOM rom with ODIN.. SO I had to download a stock (presumably rooted) t-mobile rom and flash THAT ...
Now I'm back up with a rooted rom and will begin re-installing clockwork and then my custom deodexed rooted rom afterward.
Thanks for all who almost kinda tried to care to reply in this past 2 hours =) -- As previously mentioned.. I am a nerd.. I just suck at phone modding. Haha
So , looks like I'm in the clear now and don't need any more support on this particular topic yet.
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Is this true? Through a recommendation (haven't done anything to my phone from rooting/flashing KANGSJUGGERNAUT2 years ago), I tried to flash CM10 and ended up with a bootloop myself. Tried flashing through ODIN but it kept crashing; does anyone know why?
Afterward, I tried to reflash it through CWM and from then on bootloops into a installation process that never completes.
For some reason my CWM turned super slow, freezes/hangs and reboots after a few minutes.
I gave the phone to a friend who does this stuff on the regular but he said my initial flash wasn't complete cause in download mode says I'm still running official? No clue.
I was told this via email/chat: "No luck, it won't even boot anymore, I think I'll just bring it back tmrw morn
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Sorry I'm at a wedding (yea I know random) I left my phone with coat check
OK I've narrowed down the reason but not the solution, you had an AOKP based ROM which fundamentally is based on CyanogenMod, but it wasn't correctly flashed as the phone still thought it has factory ROMs still running
11:10 PM
Clockworkmod(even though it was working before) wasn't accessing the partitions of the phone correctly so it wasn't properly wiping or flashing properly.
11:12 PM
So basically from the first time you flashed cwm it didn't flash properly then the next time you flashed using the new recovery it didn't flash anything it was supposed to do itself properly , so basically it was a chain of events in addition to a bad boot loader, that's why it never went to recovery or download mode correctly
11:13 PM
That's something that had to do with the way the phone was built meaning you may of had a bad bootloader from the very begin and are now feeling the synptoms
Basically, and I would hate to be the reason or partially the reason you have a dead phone, basically it was a matter of coincedencr that it happened as this could of happened at anytime, once you have a bad boot loader its pretty much down hill from there"
Any helpful insight as how I can rectify this? is my phone truly dead? Sorry about the quoted format, it was copied and pasted.
If I were in your boat, I'd use Odin and flash the stock 4.1.2 ROM.
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tronmech said:
If I were in your boat, I'd use Odin and flash the stock 4.1.2 ROM.
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The phone won't turn on, unable to go into recovery and download mode; plugged in usb (hear connection beep but pressing power button plays disconnect button) to no avail. What can I do to unbrick?
Stock 4.1.2? Possible over a hardbricked T989 with old 2.3.6?
JahJahLoO said:
The phone won't turn on, unable to go into recovery and download mode; plugged in usb (hear connection beep but pressing power button plays disconnect button) to no avail. What can I do to unbrick?
Stock 4.1.2? Possible over a hardbricked T989 with old 2.3.6?
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sorry but i have to assume that you are not doing the 3 button recovery or download mode right.
Pull battery, put battery back in, hold power button & Vol +/- untill you see SAMSUNG on the screen ---> let go off power button(keep holding
Vol +/- button) .....u will see recovery. (assuming you did flash cwm before).
Let me know.
hit thanks.
sam.balia1012 said:
sorry but i have to assume that you are not doing the 3 button recovery or download mode right.
Pull battery, put battery back in, hold power button & Vol +/- untill you see SAMSUNG on the screen ---> let go off power button(keep holding
Vol +/- button) .....u will see recovery. (assuming you did flash cwm before).
Let me know.
hit thanks.
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I believe I am doing it correct, I have been entering recovery and download mode many times, right before I soft bricked it.
And sorry, no, I've tried many times, many methods and my phone is confirmed as entirely hard bricked.
SUPAR SAD, but thank you!
dont give up
JahJahLoO said:
I believe I am doing it correct, I have been entering recovery and download mode many times, right before I soft bricked it.
And sorry, no, I've tried many times, many methods and my phone is confirmed as entirely hard bricked.
SUPAR SAD, but thank you!
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you can try using adb and put the phone in dl mode.
sometimes its as easy as pull battery and wait awhile (20 min or more) and try again.
if you've exhausted all possibilities, you can use a jig to force a dl mode.
let me know
sam.balia1012 said:
you can try using adb and put the phone in dl mode.
sometimes its as easy as pull battery and wait awhile (20 min or more) and try again.
if you've exhausted all possibilities, you can use a jig to force a dl mode.
let me know
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I don't know what adb is, or how to use it; I have, however seen my friend RDP to my desktop and do something and used the term 'adb' in his attempt to code through the phone.
I've done that battery waiting period, for nearly an hour and still no result.
After doing some researching, I have found that many people have stated a USB JIG would not be applicable to a 'hard bricked' phone. I really wanted to try as it looked like the most, simple and inexpensive solution.
JahJahLoO said:
I don't know what adb is, or how to use it; I have, however seen my friend RDP to my desktop and do something and used the term 'adb' in his attempt to code through the phone.
I've done that battery waiting period, for nearly an hour and still no result.
After doing some researching, I have found that many people have stated a USB JIG would not be applicable to a 'hard bricked' phone. I really wanted to try as it looked like the most, simple and inexpensive solution.
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If you know for a fact that you bricked your s2, maybe wrong rom or kernel that u flashed by accident then.....
contact these guys.... http://brickedmyphone.com/contact-me/
good like and click thanks if you agree.
sam.balia1012 said:
If you know for a fact that you bricked your s2, maybe wrong rom or kernel that u flashed by accident then.....
contact these guys.... http://brickedmyphone.com/contact-me/
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Lols, you're really fishing for them "Thanks"; you got it buddy. Very swift responses. :cyclops:
Anyway, I'm still searching the net for anymore possible solutions.
Thanks.
JahJahLoO said:
Lols, you're really fishing for them "Thanks"; you got it buddy. Very swift responses. :cyclops:
Anyway, I'm still searching the net for anymore possible solutions.
Thanks.
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fishing for them ???????
what the hell does that even mean? it seems that brick did hit u in the head!!!
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fishing for them ???????
what the hell does that even mean? it seems that brick did hit u in the head!!!
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It might as well have... :crying: