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You know when you buy a nice shiny new Nexus, you'd expect to be leading the way in the Android version race...
But what the hell is Google doing with the Galaxy Nexus? Handsets are still at 4.0.1 and 4.0.2... but the Nexus from last year and the Xoom officially have 4.0.3.
Whats up?
player911 said:
You know when you buy a nice shiny new Nexus, you'd expect to be leading the way in the Android version race...
But what the hell is Google doing with the Galaxy Nexus? Handsets are still at 4.0.1 and 4.0.2... but the Nexus from last year and the Xoom officially have 4.0.3.
Whats up?
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That is what the source is for
There are already other threads on this.
The Nexus S OTA isn't even pushed to everyone. It's on hold right now.
The Xoom's ICS push is only for the WiFi version and only for specific people who signed up for it.
Who says that the GN will even get an OTA 4.0.3 update? They may even wait for 4.0.4 or whatever at this point. Who knows. But theres clearly a reason why they're not releasing it. They're not finished and just holding onto it for no reason...
If you really want it that bad you can install a custom ROM based on 4.0.3, or compile it yourself from source and flash it. Or, just wait for the OTA and chill!
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^this right there^
Xoom ICS has gone out to the general pop.
I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
Yea 4.0.3 may be more geared with older devices to bring them up to speed... but obviously it isn't hurting the Nexus's unofficially running the 4.0.3 AOSP roms, so why not just throw it down to us? If the Nexus is the developer phone for Google, then 4.0.3 was developed on a new Nexus. Then why don't we have it yet?
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
Yea 4.0.3 may be more geared with older devices to bring them up to speed... but obviously it isn't hurting the Nexus's unofficially running the 4.0.3 AOSP roms, so why not just throw it down to us? If the Nexus is the developer phone for Google, then 4.0.3 was developed on a new Nexus. Then why don't we have it yet?
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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Totally.My.Thoughts.
One thing I'm curious about: Why on Earth was OTA for SNS halted?! My SNS with 4.0.3 was fine, IMO
If you are going to root and put a rom on your phone why do you honestly care? There are so many threads on this already. No PHONE is being pushed 4.0.3 right now anyways.
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holy hell guys the OTA for the nexus s was halted because they found some bugs during rollout, so they stopped. and they stopped galaxy nexus because of that as well. when they fix the bugs, they will continue the roll out. do you guys think google is doing this on purpose, they want to NOT give our the update to all as some master plan. or the more likely answer, they are fixing serious bugs.
RogerPodacter said:
holy hell guys the OTA for the nexus s was halted because they found some bugs during rollout, so they stopped. and they stopped galaxy nexus because of that as well. when they fix the bugs, they will continue the roll out. do you guys think google is doing this on purpose, they want to NOT give our the update to all as some master plan. or the more likely answer, they are fixing serious bugs.
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The thread should end on this note
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Do you know how to read version numbers? 4.0.3 Small release. If it were something like 4.1, ok, but a small release like this...chill out seriously.
player911 said:
I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
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It is out officially.
Build.
It.
Your.
Self.
The difference between a Nexus and every other Android phone is that you can take the LATEST publicly available source code and build a 100% fully functioning ROM with it. No matter how you slice it, you're not going to be able to build a 100% functioning Stock Android build for any other phones. They are hacked together. They are frankenbuilds. Yes other phones have 4.0.3 releases, but none of them are 100% functional. Not sure if you noticed, but for those phones you'll see a list of "what works" and "what doesnt work". For the Nexus phones, you can just build directly from Google's source and it will just work.
See: Nexus S vs Galaxy S. Although the Nexus S and the Galaxy S are identical in almost every way, the Nexus S has had ICS for months now. And you can build 4.0.3 for the Nexus S and it will Just Work.
The Galaxy S ICS releases otoh are FILLED with "known issues" - feel free to check yourself.
Just because it's not an OTA doesn't mean it's not available. You want a pure AOSP build that will be identical to an OTA that Google would push? Just build it yourself.
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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They updated the Nexus S 4G a few times before they ever rolled out updates to the mainline Nexus S. There's really no rhyme or reason to when they roll out OTAs. If you care so much about having the latest official build though, again, build it yourself from their source code. What else do you think they do? The OTA for 4.0.3 will/would be built from the same identical 1's and 0's, bits, and bytes, that is already available quite openly in the AOSP tree. It's been available for months.
i was on 4.0.1 standard with no OTA updates. doesnt matter because the nexus is made to be customised, and be a developer edition device.
i was happy to flash 4.0.3 and a custom kernel. if you arent, then i think that buying a nexus was not the wisest of decisions.
I think people just want a quality official update direct from Google. Not knocking anything the developers do, but they aren't official builds. I'd rather have something I know Google wants out there running on my phone. For all we know, there are issues with 4.0.3 which is why it hasn't been actually placed on the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus. Yet, you are so eager to say put it on yourself.
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I would rather wait a little linger for a more stable build.
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player911 said:
I'm on XDA multiple times a day and never seen an actual thread on this. Yea we have kangs and AOSP but who doesn't. I bought a Nexus to get Android updates as they come out... I'm running 4.0.3 and it isn't a huge deal that it isn't out officially, but why is it rolling out to everyone else BUT US?
Yea 4.0.3 may be more geared with older devices to bring them up to speed... but obviously it isn't hurting the Nexus's unofficially running the 4.0.3 AOSP roms, so why not just throw it down to us? If the Nexus is the developer phone for Google, then 4.0.3 was developed on a new Nexus. Then why don't we have it yet?
Something just seems strang IMO. Having a Nexus One and following the Nexus S, I haven't seen them update an older device BEFORE the current line. Isn't it a little weird that last years model is running a newer version then we are? Some Nexus's are running on 4.0.1. Whats that about?
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Could be because of 4g??
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jsntrenkler said:
I would rather wait a little linger for a more stable build.
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I've been using Androids since the Eris came out. Seriously, 99% of the time the ROMs/kernels put out by the devs here and on other sites are more stable than the official OTAs by the companies.
And I've been using Android since the G1, minus a small timeout on WP7, and custom ROMs always came with quirks left and right, that in their entirety always managed to piss me off in some way. If they don't do stupid **** in the kernel (I especially like the enabling of Linux kernel features just because they sound nice), they mess around with the userland, trying to improve things into breaking.
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And I've been using Android since the G1, minus a small timeout on WP7, and custom ROMs always came with quirks left and right, that in their entirety always managed to piss me off in some way. If they don't do stupid **** in the kernel (I especially like the enabling of Linux kernel features just because they sound nice), they mess around with the userland, trying to improve things into breaking.
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Google tells you how and what to build a completely untouched version of their code. If that bugs ya, and is not official enough for ya, then you are missing the point of this device. The device is officially supported by AOSP for yakju and mysid. If the idea of a source built rom bugs you just because its not on a Google sanctioned buildbox, then thats a shame.
I understand what you are saying about customized builds, but its easy to make a completely stock Google approved experience. Download source, setup vendor, and then make. Then you can use fastboot to flash. No need for clockwork, no need for root. If there is a demand for this, I would be happy to make both maguro and toro builds. I won't even root them and they will be odexed.
Once i get some time i plan on compiling myself a fully stock ics rom. Cause i can and that is the point of this stupid thing.
could this source help us in any way?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473092
Its a leaked build for the Nexus S 4G. No.
martonikaj said:
Its a leaked build for the Nexus S 4G. No.
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iight never mind, we should be seeing our very own leak soon -=D
HRodMusic said:
iight never mind, we should be seeing our very own leak soon -=D
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Easy there champ. lets wait for 4.0.3 to be OTA'd.
And remember that just because the NS4G has 4.0.4 doesn't mean the Galaxy Nexus will ever get it (it might skip right over). If you remember, the NS4G had different OTAs and build #'s than even the GSM Nexus S. Its a different device.
martonikaj said:
Easy there champ. lets wait for 4.0.3 to be OTA'd.
And remember that just because the NS4G has 4.0.4 doesn't mean the Galaxy Nexus will ever get it (it might skip right over). If you remember, the NS4G had different OTAs and build #'s than even the GSM Nexus S. Its a different device.
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true, im fairly new to the nexus line of phones, so i got a little exited, im used to waiting 6+ months for an update lol
Yay, so we're going to be two updates behind the Nexus S soon. Nice job Google!
I doubt there will be leaks for the GSM galaxy nexus. Leaks usually come from carriers, and since there is no official carriers for the GSM version, I think it's doubtful we see leaks.
The verizon version is different. As we've seen, select people with verizon connections have builds prior to official releases. They just keep them among the select few.
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I doubt there will be leaks for the GSM galaxy nexus. Leaks usually come from carriers, and since there is no official carriers for the GSM version, I think it's doubtful we see leaks.
The verizon version is different. As we've seen, select people with verizon connections have builds prior to official releases. They just keep them among the select few.
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The GSM Galaxy Nexus is not exclusively sold in North America FYI. O2, Three and Vodafone are just three of the networks that I know of who officially offer the Galaxy Nexus here in the UK.
case0 said:
Yay, so we're going to be two updates behind the Nexus S soon. Nice job Google!
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Most of it just might be device specific changes. Has happened before with x.x.x releases.
case0 said:
Yay, so we're going to be two updates behind the Nexus S soon. Nice job Google!
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Read my reply above. Just because the NS4G is on 4.0.4 doesn't mean were ever going to get it on the GN. The NS and NS4G were on different builds of 2.3 also, but one was never "behind" the other. Chill out.
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Hello everyone,
I am just a bit confused on what version of Galaxy Nexus receives the direct google updates. Which version should I look for?
Thanks!
binarydrummer said:
Hello everyone,
I am just a bit confused on what version of Galaxy Nexus receives the direct google updates. Which version should I look for?
Thanks!
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You should have the Yakju build in order to get the OTA's from Google.
Yakju.
Check with this app if you're lazy: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.cbruegg.officialupdate
Slow updates from Google
Then it seems that Google is very slow to push out newer updates since 4.0.4 exists and talk about 4.0.5 has already started.
My Galaxy Nexus is on 4.0.2 and is set to get updates direct from Google, it kinda defeats one of the main points of getting a Nexus device that being getting updates faster than non nexus devices regardless of carrier.
I'd prefer to keep my device stock for the time being, thoughts?
Would you prefer the alternative of updates that break more than they fix?
If you think people complain now, imagine how much they would if that happened.
4.0.4 exists AS A TEST.
adrynalyne said:
Would you prefer the alternative of updates that break more than they fix?
If you think people complain now, imagine how much they would if that happened.
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Unfortunately that already did happen with yakjuux three weeks ago.
Has there ever been a way to confirm this silly rumor?
virtualcertainty said:
Unfortunately that already did happen with yakjuux three weeks ago.
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Which makes me wonder who is building the yakjuxx builds.
descendency said:
Has there ever been a way to confirm this silly rumor?
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How about that hundreds of Canadians took to the web reporting that immedately after 4.0.2 was released their market app started crashing. The fact that NFC options disappeared from settings at the same time. The crash reports posted here and elsewhere. The seven page thread here on xda. The news reports on various sites. The bug report on code.google.com. The fact that the update was pulled just 48 hours after rollout and hasn't been re-released. All that silly evidence confirms the 'rumour'.
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Which makes me wonder who is building the yakjuxx builds.
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No one knows who does the coding, testing, or certification procedures for either the yakju or non-yakjuux builds. Somewhere between Google and Samsung.
Google handles Yakju. They said it themselves. However yes, they are being quite elusive about the variants.
najeebmirza said:
Then it seems that Google is very slow to push out newer updates since 4.0.4 exists and talk about 4.0.5 has already started.
My Galaxy Nexus is on 4.0.2 and is set to get updates direct from Google, it kinda defeats one of the main points of getting a Nexus device that being getting updates faster than non nexus devices regardless of carrier.
I'd prefer to keep my device stock for the time being, thoughts?
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Yeah, be patient and wait for the official update. 4.0.2 is the official build for GSM.
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Have you received 4.0.2 on a yakjuux (or non-yakju, non-Verizon) Galaxy Nexus?
Nope, I just manually flashed it to yakju to now I should get all OTA updates..
I'm on yakjuux
Still on 4.0.1
****s pissing me off
Selling this crap and getting a S2
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Not quite the same, but my Galaxy Nexus is on yakjuxe 4.0.2
I bought it in Russia.
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subxero123 said:
I'm on yakjuux
Still on 4.0.1
****s pissing me off
Selling this crap and getting a S2
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Probably not what you want to hear, but it only takes about 5 minutes to flash to yakju.
Or... sell the phone. Because the S2 will get updates sooooo much faster.
Your choice I guess
subxero123 said:
I'm on yakjuux
Still on 4.0.1
****s pissing me off
Selling this crap and getting a S2
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Calm down, kid. Seriously. I'm on 4.0.1 as well and don't even care, I'm quite happy with my phone as it is, it's been incredibly reliable for me so far.
Also LOL at selling it for a Galaxy S2, as if that'll see updates any faster.
Still waiting
I don't know why anyone would expect the S2 to get updates faster (particularly because there are so many S2 variants and the S3 is rumored to be released soon).
Yesterday when I woke up I was on yakjuux 4.0.1. Today I am on yakju and a custom rom with 4.0.4
dooo it
Yakjuxw and got it right out of the box (bought it a couple of weeks ago from new egg) and I haven't bothered flashing to the Google fw yet.
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KleptoTheCondor said:
Have you received 4.0.2 on a yakjuux (or non-yakju, non-Verizon) Galaxy Nexus?
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Obviously some folks HAVE received it, as that is where the link to the yakjuux 4.0.2 OTA update (found here) came from.
I'm guessing I have the yakjuux version... I opened my nexus on Thursday and I updated via OTA that same day... 4.0.2
AT&T
-Google
Still waiting, has anyone received it on yakjuux recently?
Also waiting for an update...
I got my galaxy nexus when it was released in Canada and since then have been waiting for the updates. This will not happen with this variant of the OS. I called Bell who told me to call Samsung who told me that I just needed to be patient and wait for Google to update my OS. I then did more research online and discovered that this yakjuux version is not updated by Google at all. Never will be.
My question is, who does that yakjuux version come from? Is there any accountability for them to update it? My phone is not currently rooted, or flashed in anyway, although I am considering it even more after reading the forms here.
Thanks
trekboy72 said:
I got my galaxy nexus when it was released in Canada and since then have been waiting for the updates. This will not happen with this variant of the OS. I called Bell who told me to call Samsung who told me that I just needed to be patient and wait for Google to update my OS. I then did more research online and discovered that this yakjuux version is not updated by Google at all. Never will be.
My question is, who does that yakjuux version come from? Is there any accountability for them to update it? My phone is not currently rooted, or flashed in anyway, although I am considering it even more after reading the forms here.
Thanks
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It is not clear who updates the non-yakju builds. All the updates are pushed from Google's servers though. What I'm guessing likely happens is that Google updates the yakju builds, then Samsung makes some localization changes (for specific regions) to the yakju build, gives the modified builds back to Google, who pushes them out.
trekboy72 said:
I got my galaxy nexus when it was released in Canada and since then have been waiting for the updates. This will not happen with this variant of the OS. I called Bell who told me to call Samsung who told me that I just needed to be patient and wait for Google to update my OS. I then did more research online and discovered that this yakjuux version is not updated by Google at all. Never will be.
My question is, who does that yakjuux version come from? Is there any accountability for them to update it? My phone is not currently rooted, or flashed in anyway, although I am considering it even more after reading the forms here.
Thanks
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I sense your frustration, but if you're implying that yakjuux won't ever get an update I think there is an extremely low risk of that happening. The yakjuux update went a big wonky last month Google/Samsung stopped pushing it out. It was probably so close to the completion point of 4.0.4 that they just figured on skipping it. Yakju is the template used to make the customized builds, so it stands to reason that that build would have to be finished for 4.0.4 yakjuux could be released.
That's probably not helpful if you've been eagerly awaiting 4.0.2 and now have to watch people that had it months ago get bumped up even further, but that in no way signals that Canadian users have been abandoned on 4.0.1. If you really can't wait there's lots of detailed guides here that will get you up to date in no time.
Just a quick question for those of you that are still on yakjuux: what is keeping you there?
There is no difference whatsoever from a user experience perspective. I'm speaking from personal experience, as I bought my device from Virgin Mobile, and left it on yakjuux for quite some time. Then I decided to flash yakju. Lo and behold, there was absolutely no difference. No difference in performance, no difference in features, no difference in reception, no difference whatsoever.
So, I'm just curious as to why those of you still there have not switched, given that the only difference that I have seen so far in the almost 5 months I've owned this device, is that yakju gets updates much sooner than the non-yakju builds. It's not like it's a complicated process. In fact it's extremely easy.
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Just a quick question for those of you that are still on yakjuux: what is keeping you there?
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1. 4.0.1 works great. Best phone I ever had.
2. Most importantly, time. I'm working 10 hours a day, 7 days a week right now. If this isn't sorted out by the time tax season is over then I'm headed straight over to one of those great guides you've contributed to.
3. My own stubbornness. The Nexus is the one Android phone you should never need to root or unlock the bootloader of to stay up to date. I honestly had faith Google/Samsung wouldn't take so long to change a radio. Such is the fate of yakju's forgotten siblings.
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1. 4.0.1 works great. Best phone I ever had.
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Sure, yakjuux 4.0.1 works great. You are missing USB host support and the ability to use Google Wallet, but if you don't need those, then there is really no point in upgrading anyway, as I doubt you will notice a difference. Let's not forget that we are talking about a 0.03 incremental upgrade.
virtualcertainty said:
2. Most importantly, time. I'm working 10 hours a day, 7 days a week right now. If this isn't sorted out by the time tax season is over then I'm headed straight over to one of those great guides you've contributed to.
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I hear ya on the work. I work 60-80 hours a week myself.
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3. My own stubbornness. The Nexus is the one Android phone you should never need to root or unlock the bootloader of to stay up to date. I honestly had faith Google/Samsung wouldn't take so long to change a radio. Such is the fate of yakju's forgotten siblings.
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On the contrary, the advantage (and a main selling point for me) of a Nexus device is its unlockable bootloader. Which devices, other than the Android showcase devices (i.e., Nexus One, Nexus S, Motorola Xoom, Galaxy Nexus) do you see that come with unlockable bootloaders out of the box? None (although Sony-Ericsson and HTC are providing on-line unlocking for some of their devices now). The beauty of a Nexus device is that it is almost un-brickable, factory images and source are readily available -- all of this allows you to try whatever you want, and always be able to return back to the way it was when you bought it without issue.
Not to mention that Nexus devices are guaranteed to receive at least one major upgrade to the next version of Android (from when it was release), e.g., N1 launched on eclair got upgraded to froyo and then GB, NS launched on GB and got upgraded to ICS, Xoom launched on HC and got upgraded to ICS, and finally the GN launched on ICS, and will get updated to JB.
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So, I'm just curious as to why those of you still there have not switched, given that the only difference that I have seen so far in the almost 5 months I've owned this device, is that yakju gets updates much sooner than the non-yakju builds. It's not like it's a complicated process. In fact it's extremely easy.
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I don't want to void the warranty of a $600 phone.
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Hi, I just wanted to share my thoughts on every gsm Nexus other than yakju and takju since they haven't had a great history of getting otas..
I think that it's gonna be only few days/weeks until jelly bean for other gsm versions will get jelly bean OTA, because if I could recall what Google said, they said ALL Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S and Motorola Xoom will get jelly bean update by end of this month. I believe that they mean ALL, including LTE versions of course. This wouldn't matter to a lot of people here on xda since changing to yakju or takju is piece of cake, but there are a lot of my friends who doesn't even know what root is who owns either galaxy nexus or Nexus s and for them, it's a great news
Just thought that I should share with you guys. What do you think?
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You keep on thinkin' that.
Canadian GNs (yakjuux) are on 4.0.2 still. I've read up on the 4.0.4 update that was released was subsequently removed due to Samsung buggering it up, that was back in April. Sorry I have no faith that any models besides takju and yakju getting updates promptly as long as Google allows whomever else to be responsible for the updates other than themselves. It would certainly be nice if all variants were updated promptly but the track record previously hasn't been the case.
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Canadian GNs (yakjuux) are on 4.0.2 still. I've read up on the 4.0.4 update that was released was subsequently removed due to Samsung buggering it up, that was back in April. Sorry I have no faith that any models besides takju and yakju getting updates promptly as long as Google allows whomever else to be responsible for the updates other than themselves. It would certainly be nice if all variants were updated promptly but the track record previously hasn't been the case.
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Yep, I was pissed that I still had yakjuux until today (when I chose to flash stock yakju). I don't even know what the "localization" difference was in yakjuux!
kyokeun1234 said:
Why I believe "other" gsm Nexus will get jelly bean soon
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Sayin' or believin' it doesn't make it true...