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-CarComp
EDIT POST ON 5-5-2010
INSTRUCTIONS ARE IN BOLD!!!!!!!
EDITS AND MY OPINIONS ARE IN ITALICS
Want google and not winmo but can't wade through all of the confusion offered up by the supergeeks of android linux? Well just do these steps. It took me an evening to figure out these steps, and could whip it up instantly now.
BTW - it REALLY helps to have a computer with an SDcard slot adapter that handles the micro-sd cards. I don't really recommend trying all this with a USB cable, b/c once you get to linux only, you will kinda be screwed cause it doesn't quite work the same like windows CE. Also that and you can't format through the phone, so just get an adapter ok? Stop right here if you don't have one and just order one or go to walmart and spend 10 bucks and get one. BTW, your micro sd card should have come with one when you bought it, so go look for it.
Ok how to get the super Eclair android into NAND and live a happy life....
1, CHARGE YOUR PHONE UP ALL THE WAY BEFORE ANYTHING. When done charging, unplug whatever is in your USB port for the rest of this procedure. Having phone plugged in while flashing = BAD
2, get hard spl on your phone.
3, Install Hyperdragon IOlite on your phone to get the radio(1.65.24.36) that I recommend, which will improve battery life and possibly other things that I don't know about. Get it here -> http://sakajati.com/blogs/2009/02/hyperdragon-iv-iolite-based-on-htc-iolite/
4, format your 1+ GB sdcard using fat32 only.
5, download polyrhythmics dark / light build for nand and sdcard.
put that SINGLE FILE (androidinstall.tgz) into a folder in the root of the SD-CARD called "andboot" - Get it here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
6, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ and download KAISIMG-PANEL2-320-TILT.NBH if you have an ATT tilt. If you have something else, download that NBH.
7, Rename that NBH file to "KAISimg.nbh". Put it in the root of your storage card.
8. Now you are ready to install to nand. Get out your stylus, hold down the camera and power button and press the reset button with the stylus. It should go to an updating screen. If you don't get a white screen with a progress bar, but instead it still shows tri color and says "serial" then you did something wrong. Start over from step 1. Once you get to 100%, wait 20 seconds or something (just for shihtz and giggles) and then pull out the battery.
9. Now, put it back in, press power and wait for android to start booting. You will know cause all this random looking text will go by. You have to be quick to do it, but press the middle button on the d-pad when it says 'press the middle button to enter setup' or soemthing like that. (EDIT: I've been told that you have to just hold the d-pad center button down. Either way, just get that button pushed when it says to push it).
You will be presented with some options. Make sure the little asterisk is on the "NAND" option.
10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.
Crap your pants at the speed NAND offers. Install some live desktops (I like the starfield warp drive one from the google market.)
BTW: If you mess up your phone doing this, blah blah its not my fault blah blah you probably shouldn't be on these forums etc. Just make sure you have HardSPL and you will be fine. I've flashed hundreds of roms hundreds of times. Just that one little step will make your life easier.
EDIT:
RADIO DETAILS:
I've heard a LOT about using the latest radio or whatever version 1.71 or soemthing. I run radio 1.65 just fine. I never upgraded it through out all of the android builds. I operate like this.. If you weren't having cell quality issues, GPS lock issues, or any other radio issues in WINMO, then android will be fine too. I've added a step to the process to install a specific winMO rom that has the radio that I use. If you don't like the fact that I'm telling people to use an older radio, so be it. I'm just spreading the word for what works REALLY well for me.
EDIT: (My thoughts on the panel 1 2 3 and the 320 or 428 or whatever...) Picking the right panel is like playing the 'cups and ball' game. if you know which one the ball is under, you will win. Well for you TILT users, the ball is under #2. I don't know why, but it is. If 2 doesn't work, use 1. Doesn't get simpler than that. As for the resolutions, just use the 320. Ya, some apps fit better on the higher res, but our screens don't support them really well, and its all blurry. Think of it like this..... using 4xx instead of 320 is like asking 3 pixels to display as 1, vs. one pixel displaying as one pixel very clearly. Polyrhymic has done a great job supporting our screen's native 320 size, so just use it.
EDIT: (An issue i've noticed with booting and having your phone plugged in). Android just won't do it on nand. You can charge your phone from a dead point for say 20 mins, unplug it, then turn it on, boot android then plug it back in. You can't plug it in, and turn it on. It gets stuck in some sort of USB status loop.
EDIT: (When your phone just sits there on the A N D R O I D text and won't boot). Seems like this has been happening a lot, for me too. I've found there are two ways to stop this, one is preventative... Don't let your phone go totally dead. The second, when you reboot your phone, press and hold dpad center, then just count to 10 and go to the QUIT option. 9 times out of 10 it will boot right up.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, JUST REPEAT THE PROCESS.. Don't skip the full charge and installation of Hyperdragon first.
for may people on here, the fear of flashing isn't the problem. it's the missing features such as bluetooth, speakerphone and in some builds even camera.
I would LOVE to go nand. I hate not knowing if the problem is with the build or with the sucky sdcard.
but I need to revert back to winmo for bluetooth headset. once that or speakerphone works I am ON IT.
Nice, couldn't have said it better myself, a few small points, press and HOLD the centre button on Dpad, a quick press will not do it, I'd mention the radio version too, but those are not major issues, and can be sorted easily enough
Good advice about the card reader and adaptor, those two saved my ass a few times in the early days of Nand flashing, I keep a good stock winmo kaisimg.nbh on a spare SD card, you only need a 128Mb one for a stock rom.
Yes there are install instructions on the build posts, but a lot of the info is now spread though some 2000+ posts, so having it all in easy terms helps a load.
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
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It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
Disturbed21 said:
It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
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agreed, currently no gps working map that can be rely such as garmin that can work on winmo.. 1 disadvantage of android.. need to be online to get route..
Kurt Cobain said:
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
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320-428-480 là chỉ độ phân giải đó bạn.
320 is a resolution of 240X320 and the 480 is a resolution of 320X480
Mình biết được chừng đó thôi
Created another edit to the 1st post.
I'm not saying that android doesn't have its shortcomings, I'm just offering a quick means to get to NAND without trying to comprehend the whole thing in the traditional sense of reading 200 threads.
BTW my radio is 1.65.24.36
Maranevin, try flashing Hyperdragon IOlite first. Maybe a radio switch will prod your phone into the correct direction.
Errr, for newbs who don't know how to properly unlock their device isn't this dangerous? There IS a possibility of bricking your phone if you don't know what you're doing -- right?
Anyway, I would also mention that if you or your phone can't do 3G don't flash to NAND yet. The radio can't be instructed to use GSM only with the current poly build (and any other I have tried so far)
I totally agree with mnjm9b, the problem is not flash the phone, the problem is that there are many things that do not. In particular I am very happy with the performance of 2.1g polymod to date is the best I've worked.
carcomp thanks for the help, very good summary.
aikeru, if someone is flashing a phone, they probably know the risks. Its not my fault if they do something stupid. Is it autozone's fault if I buy specialty tools and ruin my engine changing a timing chain?
Anyways, I don't get the 3g thing. We have hardly any 2g or whatever is below 3g here in Mulberry Indiana and my android works fine.
Like I said, maybe i've found that magic mix of things that works really darn good.
BTW: major argument for using android.....
First of all, i'm not borg. I have yet to really get into bluetooth. I own two earpieces and the only good thing i've found is you can talk on the phone in freezing weather with you hands in your pockets. Bluetooth to mute car radios is cool, but I have a 20 year old car. I don't need bluetooth for file transfer cause i've got wifi, and SD CARD.
Second, as for the speakerphone, it never really was that loud anyways. I came from a hermes, which has a speaker like the voice of god, so i've never been impressed with the kaiser speakerphone.
Third, the camera... I have a nikon D60 with a speedlight for taking stills and lowlights, and a Kodak Z612 in my wife's purse most all the time for the past 3 years for video and spot shooting. All this data easily goes onto the micro sd card and into the phone.....
carcomp said:
10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.[/B]
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I've done all step above, just when i did this After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power. it started back to Step 9 when i had to 'press the middle button to enter setup'.
So, i skipped that step, and then later everytime i tried to press reset button, the phone is freeze, then i had to started over again...
In some cases, my OK button became to POWER button...
And at first time, WIFI was OK, then it showed Unable to start Wi-Fi
Any suggestion for my troubles?
Thank you!!
Great!!
Hi all, Great!! I am now running Android on my kaiser and I love it!!!
Just a couple of questions for people who can answer them:
- How to change phisycal keyboard layout? I mean, some keys that I have in blue aren't the same I have on my keyboard...
- Is there any means to connect to a pc to transfer contacts and files?
Thank you all!!
Gnatto
Maranevim said:
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
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Same problem here. Someone please help. My device is now a worthless brick!!!!
Ok when this happens (its happened to me), first of all don't panick. If you've installed hardspl you are protected, and besides, just cause your phone won't boot android doesn't mean its bricked, it just means its not booting android.
There can be a multitude of things causing this, but the #1 reason I think is "Just because thats how it is"
First of all, don't boot your phone with it plugged in. Ever. Charge it first, then boot it, or charge it enough to make it through boot then plug it in when it reaches android.
Second, sometimes during boot, it just hangs where it says A N D R O I D, or some other text. You can get around this by resetting with stylus, then pressing the center dpad button, then just counting to 10 or 20 or some random number that makes you happy, then select quit. It should boot.
Thanks. Fortunately I unbricked it by putting the KAISDIAG.NBH file onto the SD card, then booted it. This unbricked it. I also put the the KAISIMG.NBH for the Android on here and it booted into the installer. My problem now is that when I click install to NAND, it says it has an error extracting from the SD card for the android installer. It then quits back to the main install screen. I think it is a permissions error since it says on the screen something about being read only. If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Oh and btw, I never had usb plugged in since mine is broken.
Ok well you are on the right track. Before you do anything else though, flash a copy of windows Mobile. Either take your pick, or use hyperdragon. Its very complete ... radio / ext rom etc. Next, try reformatting your SD card using windows. Do a complete format, not a quick one. That might help. Now reflash using the link to kaisnbh that i posted.
Remember, installing windows mobile is your NAND reset. Its lot like an sdcard where you can just erase everything. You have to put something else there that is radically different. I may be wrong about this, but it seems to be the case more often than not.
You may be one of the special case people who have a weird phone that takes one of the other KAISimg.nbh files too, so don't discount that. Also since you have hardspl, and you are flashing from the sdcard, you phone is probably NOT going to brick, and even if it does screw up royally, if you can still get to tri color, you can fix it.
Ok. That's great to know. I'll try what you stated. Do I need to partition my SD card? Thanks again. I really appreciate the help.
i dropped my phone and since then the screen refuses to turn on. it seems like everything is working fine except the screen. calls are coming through and im able to answer the call as long as i swipe at the right spot. is this something that can be fixed instead of swapping out the phone? if this cant be fixed and i have to get a new unit, can the sprint technicians be able to somehow transfer everything over to the new phone? btw, my phone is rooted with cwm installed and nandroid backed up to internal storage since i have no sd card installed.
If you can connect via USB you can grab the data from internal storage possibly, but it sounds like, at best, your display has a hardware issue ( strange that the touch works but the display doesn't)
But I see a trip to the phone store in your future.
If you can, I'd recommend booting to the boot loader (pwr-voldown) and using Odin to flash a stock from first so you can at least have the chance of getting a warranty replacement. ("Not sure what happennes, the screen just doesn't work anymore...")
Good luck.
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icexige said:
i dropped my phone and since then the screen refuses to turn on. it seems like everything is working fine except the screen. calls are coming through and im able to answer the call as long as i swipe at the right spot. is this something that can be fixed instead of swapping out the phone? if this cant be fixed and i have to get a new unit, can the sprint technicians be able to somehow transfer everything over to the new phone? btw, my phone is rooted with cwm installed and nandroid backed up to internal storage since i have no sd card installed.
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Sounds like something with the connection between the LCD and the motherboard. You could get lucky and only have to reconnect the LCD's ribbon connection, however, if the LCD is cracked in any way, it would have to be a replacement, that is, if they allow replacements on cracked LCDs. Every ASC location is different. The only way to transfer anything would be to connect it to a PC, like he said in the above post, and hope it connects as USB storage by default. Copy everything to the desktop and then drag-and-drop onto the new phone's storage. But dude, get an SD card. It really makes EVERYTHING so much easier when transferring to a new phone.
The LED back light system and the touchscreen are independent of each other. Sounds to me like the connection to the back lights and the power got disconnected.
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The LED back light system and the touchscreen are independent of each other. Sounds to me like the connection to the back lights and the power got disconnected.
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that is exactly what it seems like. can i take it into a sprint store and have it repaired or do i need to send it off?
As long as there is no physical damage then I would say its repairable. If you have ever seen a smartphone dissembled you should go check it out on you tube. Alot of the connectors are very small and easily popped out.
I'm having a huge problem with my T-Mobile Galaxy S2, and not it won't even completely boot up. The issue had already been around, but never this bad. Usually, when I would use my phone, it would just randomly reboot on it's own. Now, I can't even get to the main home screen or menu. When the battery is inserted, the phone will automatically try to turn on. I'll get the Samsung screen, then the "Samsung Galaxy SII Android 4G T-Mobile screen", then the phone will glitch for a second, black screen, and it'll almost have a seizure from then on. When I say that, pretty much what happens is that the screen will go black, and it'll pulse with vibrations. It'll vibrate, stop for two seconds, vibrate some more, etc. That's all it'll do from there on. It won't try to turn on when I hold the power button, and the vibrations won't stop until I take the battery out. There is no water damage, and there's just normal wear on the phone. I've had the phone since the drop, and for the most part, it's been great until now.
The phone is not rooted, and I have not installed anything crazy. Come to think about it, I didn't really even have too many apps installed on it to begin with. The phone is under warranty, so I had T-Mobile send me a replacement. My main issue now is that I have content on there that wasn't on my SD card, but on the internal hard drive that I find extremely important, and want to keep. When I connect the phone to my computer, nothing comes up because I didn't "connect" it to the computer as you normally would have to do from the phone, before the extra drives pop up on the computer. Without getting into the main menu and manually connecting the phone to the computer so that the drive will pop up, what can I do?
I've tried taking the battery, sim card and memory card out, letting it sit for a few hours, and plug it back in, but it does the same thing. The battery isn't bad, because it plugs into the replacement phone that was sent to me, and works just fine. I've also plugged into my additional batteries, and it does the same thing. I can't do the "hard reset" where you hold volume up & down, then the power button because what happens is the phone will restart itself before I can get to that point. I tried it when I was on the phone with T-Mobile, and the associate at one of the retail locations tried when I went to get a loaner. I've tried hooking up the phone to the Kies software, but it won't recognize the old phone. It will recognize the new one with no problems though.
I am in no way am I well versed with the process of flashing it or installing different things on the phone. I just used it casually for phone calls, texts, web, and an occasional game or app. I'm just stating this so that if there are any specific tips that anyone could recommend, please if possible, explain in a bit more depth, because after I posted my title, I found the related threads, and most of the steps that were recommended to others that had problems sound a bit foreign to me. I just really want to recover the photos and documents that I had on the phone before I send it back to T-Mobile.
These are the threads that I've somewhat referenced so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1948094
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457458x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813866
I can't seem to find anything with the same symptoms as my phone though. If anyone could let me know, that would be great. I just really want to get the content off my old phone, it's just extremely important to me. I'll be waiting on any replies. If you need and more information about what the phone is doing, or what I should try, please mention it. I will try to update this as I get replies, since I am supposed to send the phone back pretty soon. Thank you in advance.
You have a stuck or broken power button. Stick a toothpick or something into the power button whole and take out any gunk if there is. If that doesn't help, then you have a broken power button and you have to get your phone fixed.
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So from what I understand your phone does not boot up to the home screen at all and you are trying to recover all the files from the internal storage? I've been in the same situation as you, although, with my previous android (Samsung Captivate) and I know how hectic this situation is...
If you can enter recovery mode still without the phone restarting itself and if you're willing to flash a custom rom that should help you get into the home screen to recover your files, as it shouldn't remove anything from the internal storage (just as long as you don't format the internal storage/system in recovery).
The phone 'seizure' you are experiencing may also be caused by physical damage, such as the internal memory becoming defective (hopefully not the case).
You mentioned that you can't turn on the phone with the power button and the phone only turns on when you place the battery... that's the same thing that happened with my old phone and it turned out that I had to disassemble the phone and clean/replace the power button. After that the phone turned on like normally again, however, I had to flash a new rom for it to properly boot up.
As a last resort, if you can enter 'Download Mode' via button combo or usb jig you can use Odin to flash a stock rom. However, the files you originally have in the phone will be removed, which you definitely do not want. But at least your phone will possibly work again.
At the moment, I don't think there is any way to recover the files you need from the internal memory without being able to boot up the phone to get it connected to your computer. If you do manage to boot to the home screen, but can't connect your phone to your computer. You can always do a wireless transfer to a cloud based storage such as Dropbox (you can use the android app) and just transfer your files from your phone through that.
I hope I am of some help to you, if I find any other solutions I'll let you know. Good luck!
Hello everyone!
I've had a Galaxy Nexus for the past two years. The screen has been broken for the past year and it did give up eventually. Recently replaced with the newest Nexus (very happy but that's not the point of this topic), I wish to get all my data back from the GN, which means photos, texts, videos, some files ...
I feel like the phone still works, despite the screen being pitch black all the time, as I still hear the sound of notifications when I receive an email, or message through WhatsApp or Kik.
I can't get the data back by just plugging the phone in the computer as even though the phone is recognised, I can't explore the SD card (guess it has to do with the fact that I had to unlock the phone before using it, but I'm not sure).
My question is: how can I get into the phone and get all this back?
I'm willing to try anything that might work (I won't summon one of Satan's minions for this though)
Thank you so much for your help,
Fae
Ok, first off I chose Sprint because I believe that Boost Mobile is on the sprint network, but my phone doesn't specifically say sprint on it or anything, so I had no clue which of these device boards to post into. This is the exact page I got it on, if that helps. [link deleted - paranoid forum rules] - I will post specs of the device in a minute.
Alright, the issue with my phone, is that after I used a car charger 2 months after I got my phone, it suddenly stopped being able to connect to ANY computer ever again. I suspected it was PDA net at first cause that was the newest change I had done to my phone. So, a few days later, I could find now way whatsoever to fix it, and had to factory reset. This fixed my phone just fine.
Two months later, I was fed up with having battery issues all the time, this phone drains battery faster than my laptop, and its battery is 3.8 years old! I got an external battery that holds 20,000 mAh/74 Wh (Practically the same as my laptop battery too. ) that is from the LimeFuel company. I know that before I used it, my phone worked with my laptop just fine. I don't plug my phone in to my laptop all that often, especially now that I have a battery to use with it. However, I download large files on my phone with 4G to put onto my laptop because my home net is crappy, so a week after, I noticed that my phone lost the ability to communicate with computers, again. I then realized, it had to be the connections. The first time it happened was when I used a car charger, the second time, an external battery. Each time, my phone suddenly inexplicably lost the ability to communicate with a computer ever again. It can only see devices as a power source, nothing more. There's no missing software or drivers, it just doesn't register as anything to my computer. Like a power toggle so it can't tell the computer "Hey, I'm a device that you can transfer data with".
One more note; The first time this happened, I had activated developer options but had them turned off. I mean that I used USB Debugging mode once and turned all of that off. The second time, I hadn't even unhid the option yet, unhid after my phone broke again to try and fix but nope.
I did research on trying to fix it, without factory reset because a factory reset is USELESS, if it's going to happen every single time I use anything but the wall to charge it, right?
There was a topic online claiming that there is a menu under "Storage" in the settings. There isn't. It was a big fat lie. Or Android devs deleted it.
There was another topic, claiming that USB settings would be under some wireless and networks area. Nope.
Now, I remember that when my device would connect to the computer, it would let me change it from MTP to PTP, but after this happened, nothing. It doesn't even pop up anymore, nor does it ask. There is no where in the phone that these options even exist at all. It's like Android devs deleted access to these options for no reason whatsoever.
Another bit in that topic mentioned ‘USB Mass Storage’, which also doesn't exist. Here's the topic with everything I tried, if I'm allowed to give links at all. If not, well not my fault. Topics used to try and diagnose and fix issues, but failed;
[link deleted - paranoid forum rules]
[link deleted - paranoid forum rules]
(There were more but I can't remember them all, it's more or less the same as the two above)
"To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!"
Translation: "To prevent spam, we want to hinder only legitimate users by making them post 10 units of spam first before they can get help with their issues by showing exact information and screenshots of their issues or steps taken given by other websites."
So. How do I get my phone to connect to computers again?
Why does it stop accepting data from computers after I use a car charger or an external battery pack?
Why would Google/Android devs choose to intentionally break your phone like this?
Code:
Hardware: L710T.03
Software: L710TVPU0AOA3
Model: SPH-LT10T
Android 4.4.2
Kernal: 3.4.0-1683363 (Ask if need more)
Build: KOT49H.L710TVPU0AOA3
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VasVadum said:
Ok, first off I chose Sprint because I believe that Boost Mobile is on the sprint network, but my phone doesn't specifically say sprint on it or anything, so I had no clue which of these device boards to post into. This is the exact page I got it on, if that helps. [link deleted - paranoid forum rules] - I will post specs of the device in a minute.
Alright, the issue with my phone, is that after I used a car charger 2 months after I got my phone, it suddenly stopped being able to connect to ANY computer ever again. I suspected it was PDA net at first cause that was the newest change I had done to my phone. So, a few days later, I could find now way whatsoever to fix it, and had to factory reset. This fixed my phone just fine.
Two months later, I was fed up with having battery issues all the time, this phone drains battery faster than my laptop, and its battery is 3.8 years old! I got an external battery that holds 20,000 mAh/74 Wh (Practically the same as my laptop battery too. ) that is from the LimeFuel company. I know that before I used it, my phone worked with my laptop just fine. I don't plug my phone in to my laptop all that often, especially now that I have a battery to use with it. However, I download large files on my phone with 4G to put onto my laptop because my home net is crappy, so a week after, I noticed that my phone lost the ability to communicate with computers, again. I then realized, it had to be the connections. The first time it happened was when I used a car charger, the second time, an external battery. Each time, my phone suddenly inexplicably lost the ability to communicate with a computer ever again. It can only see devices as a power source, nothing more. There's no missing software or drivers, it just doesn't register as anything to my computer. Like a power toggle so it can't tell the computer "Hey, I'm a device that you can transfer data with".
One more note; The first time this happened, I had activated developer options but had them turned off. I mean that I used USB Debugging mode once and turned all of that off. The second time, I hadn't even unhid the option yet, unhid after my phone broke again to try and fix but nope.
I did research on trying to fix it, without factory reset because a factory reset is USELESS, if it's going to happen every single time I use anything but the wall to charge it, right?
There was a topic online claiming that there is a menu under "Storage" in the settings. There isn't. It was a big fat lie. Or Android devs deleted it.
There was another topic, claiming that USB settings would be under some wireless and networks area. Nope.
Now, I remember that when my device would connect to the computer, it would let me change it from MTP to PTP, but after this happened, nothing. It doesn't even pop up anymore, nor does it ask. There is no where in the phone that these options even exist at all. It's like Android devs deleted access to these options for no reason whatsoever.
Another bit in that topic mentioned ‘USB Mass Storage’, which also doesn't exist. Here's the topic with everything I tried, if I'm allowed to give links at all. If not, well not my fault. Topics used to try and diagnose and fix issues, but failed;
[link deleted - paranoid forum rules]
[link deleted - paranoid forum rules]
(There were more but I can't remember them all, it's more or less the same as the two above)
"To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!"
Translation: "To prevent spam, we want to hinder only legitimate users by making them post 10 units of spam first before they can get help with their issues by showing exact information and screenshots of their issues or steps taken given by other websites."
So. How do I get my phone to connect to computers again?
Why does it stop accepting data from computers after I use a car charger or an external battery pack?
Why would Google/Android devs choose to intentionally break your phone like this?
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Hardware: L710T.03
Software: L710TVPU0AOA3
Model: SPH-LT10T
Android 4.4.2
Kernal: 3.4.0-1683363 (Ask if need more)
Build: KOT49H.L710TVPU0AOA3
Ask of need more.
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First off, after the factory reset and everything worked did you reinstall the pdanet?
Second, 20,000mah battery? Holy cow im jealous!
Forgive me if you have already tried these things but this is what i would do...
Did you reenable developer options and reenable adb debugging?
Did you uninstall and reinstall your phone drivers?
Is there an updated phone driver?
Have you tried a different usb cord?
Is there excess dirt or dust in usb charge port on your phone?
Does your usb charge port even work anymore or do you just charge external battery on wall?
Have you tried a different usb port on the computer?
Have you tried on another computer?
Have you tried updating computer drivers?
Have you enabled a fast charge tweak like on a kernel tweak app?
If none of these questions fix it then a workaround is downloading app called airdroid. You can wirelessly transfer files from phone to computer and back again without usb cord.
Let me know what worked please! Good luck!
ZipAddict said:
1. First off, after the factory reset and everything worked did you reinstall the pdanet?
2. Second, 20,000mah battery? Holy cow im jealous!
3. Did you reenable developer options and reenable adb debugging?
4. Did you uninstall and reinstall your phone drivers?
5. Is there an updated phone driver?
6. Have you tried a different usb cord?
7. Is there excess dirt or dust in usb charge port on your phone?
8. Does your usb charge port even work anymore or do you just charge external battery on wall?
9. Have you tried a different usb port on the computer?
10. Have you tried on another computer?
11. Have you tried updating computer drivers?
12. Have you enabled a fast charge tweak like on a kernel tweak app?
13. If none of these questions fix it then a workaround is downloading app called airdroid. You can wirelessly transfer files from phone to computer and back again without usb cord.
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1. No, I never touched PDA net again.
2. Too bad forum rules say I can't be friendly and give you the link to it.
3. Read the topic you quoted. I did, only after my phone broke again. Except it's not adb debugging, it's USB debugging. Doesn't work, because the phone can't communicate with a computer anymore.
4. 5. 11. Yes I reinstalled drivers and no there were no updates.
6. 7. Nothing's wrong with the cable. I did try with others.
8. What does that even mean? Yes my phone's port works. Nothing's wrong with any hardware.
9. 10. I've tried different ports and different computers.
12. Can't, phone isn't rooted.
13. I'm not using this. My phone is not there for Google/Android to tell me I'm not allowed to use my USB port ever again. I'm also not going to wait 4 hours for a 4 GB file to transfer via my router to my computer nor am I installing some app software to my computer just to have wireless transfer. This is not a work around. This is an "Oh well, it's broken, guess you can't ever use USB ports again for data access!"
note; I tried all of these (except 12/13) before I ever came here looking for help.
2. I will google it
3. I didnt realize toggle to turn on usb debugging didnt work sorry. I just know it needs to be on for the computer to see the phone. This seems to be an area of problem possibly.
8. Lol! What i meant was did the area where u insert charger function properly. Only reason i asked is because some of those batteries charge on wall unit made specifically to charge the battery only not with charge.
12. Doesnt require root for basic settings like changing governor usually. Only to overclock/undervolt, etc.
13. Great answer! But i meant as a temporary fix until someone more experienced with this issue helps you.
I also figured listing all those things would help other people see what you had and hadnt tried before asking you next time. Wish i couldve helped more. Good luck
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2. I will google it
3. I didnt realize toggle to turn on usb debugging didnt work sorry. I just know it needs to be on for the computer to see the phone. This seems to be an area of problem possibly.
8. Lol! What i meant was did the area where u insert charger function properly. Only reason i asked is because some of those batteries charge on wall unit made specifically to charge the battery only not with charge.
12. Doesnt require root for basic settings like changing governor usually. Only to overclock/undervolt, etc.
13. Great answer! But i meant as a temporary fix until someone more experienced with this issue helps you.
I also figured listing all those things would help other people see what you had and hadnt tried before asking you next time. Wish i couldve helped more. Good luck
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2. amazon dot com /External-20000mAh-Limefuel-LP200X-Flashlight/dp/B00OHZVN5U/ - It let me charge my phone 7-8 times fully before it was empty. Automatically stops when your phone is full.
3. USB debugging doesn't need to be on in order for a phone to communicate with a computer. This is only if you want to debug apps or use other developer tools. File transfer works just fine without it.
8. I still don't understand what you mean. My phone is not broken in any way. Nor is my battery. My external battery charges off any USB input, my phone charges off any USB input. My phone just can't communicate data wise between devices anymore via USB.
12. Fast charge isn't going to fix my phone. Unless it disables data communication, then I need to turn it off. All "kernal tweak apps" appear to require root. The top 5 google searches shown this.
3. Wasnt sure. Ive always had it on
8. Some aftermarket batteries dont charge while in phone hooked up to charger. They come out of phone and into specialized charger for battery only not phone with it, so that it can charge the larger battery in a matter ofan hour or so is what i have been trying to say. But its obvious thats not the case for you now since i asked and clarified. If this was the case one might not know that the small usb port on their phone needed cleaning to make a good connection because they literally dont use it to charge their phone. They charge their phone with external battery charger. You see?
12. On my custom rom and on my trickstermod app it does say fast charge disables data communication and that you have to turn it off for computer to recognize phone again. This fast charge mode only works when connected to computer not wall charger it says
Wish i could be more help but im out of ideas. Good luck
Update to the current situation.
My phone is somehow, repaired. But I have no clue why. I did several things today, just screwing around while I backed up my stuff to the SD card. One of them could have fixed it, or my phone is magic and self repairs after a while. Lets list everything I can remember that I did.
1. I typed in *#9900# in my dialing app. Toggled an option called "Low battery dump" to "on".
2. I deleted a whole bunch of files, including hidden files on the internal storage. Probably screwed up my apps but, whatever, it works now.
3. I pulled the SD card out.
Shortly after all these things, I plugged it in for power, and it finally, got my computer to see it as an MTP device again. No clue which of these succeeded. I'm going to wait a small bit before I test the things that tend to break it.
The magic option, is because I tried to root, it broke, stuck in download mode with some error about firmware. For 4 hours it was stuck like this, I tried everything I could think of, which wasn't much, tried installing the ROM back too, after wasting 2 gigs of bandwidth downloading it only to get an error before it even started the install. Phone was still rebooting in download mode error screen. Left it sit there off for like a minute and it just turns it's self back on, flickers a few times and the logo pops up and the device pops on like nothing had ever happened to it. I'm so confused. :/ At least everything's back to normal. Now add a good confusion post icon below so I can click it and post. :|
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12. Fast charge isn't going to fix my phone. Unless it disables data communication, then I need to turn it off.
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this was your problem remember? fast charge does disable data communication.
VasVadum said:
Update to the current situation.
My phone is somehow, repaired. But I have no clue why. I did several things today, just screwing around while I backed up my stuff to the SD card. One of them could have fixed it, or my phone is magic and self repairs after a while. Lets list everything I can remember that I did.
1. I typed in *#9900# in my dialing app. Toggled an option called "Low battery dump" to "on".
2. I deleted a whole bunch of files, including hidden files on the internal storage. Probably screwed up my apps but, whatever, it works now.
3. I pulled the SD card out.
Shortly after all these things, I plugged it in for power, and it finally, got my computer to see it as an MTP device again. No clue which of these succeeded. I'm going to wait a small bit before I test the things that tend to break it.
The magic option, is because I tried to root, it broke, stuck in download mode with some error about firmware. For 4 hours it was stuck like this, I tried everything I could think of, which wasn't much, tried installing the ROM back too, after wasting 2 gigs of bandwidth downloading it only to get an error before it even started the install. Phone was still rebooting in download mode error screen. Left it sit there off for like a minute and it just turns it's self back on, flickers a few times and the logo pops up and the device pops on like nothing had ever happened to it. I'm so confused. :/ At least everything's back to normal. Now add a good confusion post icon below so I can click it and post. :|
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glad whatever you did fixed it lol. have a good day
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this was your problem remember? fast charge does disable data communication.
glad whatever you did fixed it lol. have a good day
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Except, I don't have a fast charge option anywhere. I can't toggle fast charge. My phone is unrooted and locked and such. If plugging in a device like a battery or a car charger, toggles this option and the OS developers deleted access to toggle this option, it is an OS bug and a critical issue in the device that needs to be fixed. I don't know what fixed it, but I'm assuming it was the low battery dump, and that doesn't appear to have anything to do with fast charge and it was a hidden secret option in the system.
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Except, I don't have a fast charge option anywhere. I can't toggle fast charge. My phone is unrooted and locked and such. If plugging in a device like a battery or a car charger, toggles this option and the OS developers deleted access to toggle this option, it is an OS bug and a critical issue in the device that needs to be fixed. I don't know what fixed it, but I'm assuming it was the low battery dump, and that doesn't appear to have anything to do with fast charge and it was a hidden secret option in the system.
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The way u said it i misunderstood i thought u did have it on. Its not an option on all roms though. Mine has it and i tried it and couldnt see files thru usb until i toggled it off so it was just an idea. I dont know the effects of the low battery dump off top of my head but i will remember that if i hear someone else with same problem. Glad its fixed now