only half rooted? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I attempted to root my phone using 1-click root app and it looked like everything went well. I was able to tether, titanium backup could access what it needed to, etc. As I continued to try new apps I started to see an error message more and more "<app name> as been denied super user permissions". At first I thought nothing of it but now Im starting to question it my phone is fully rooted.
I down loaded Root check basic which tells me that my SPH-710 is not rooted as I once thought. Now Im not sure what I should do?
It should be noted that when I go into recovery mode sometimes I have issues when attempting to boot. (I know this isnt much to go on but I havent exactly documented whats happening and Im paranoid to try it right now).
So here I am looking to you phone gurus for advice. I should have the correct drivers and development kit installed, but again this isnt something I do on a daily basis and would rather not go into this blind and brick my phone. The last phone I rooted was my EVO 4G and once I got that configured where I wanted it I never touched it again.
Anway.. any links, apps, sites, etc, that you could provide would be appreciated.
Thank you.

The easiest way is to flash a rooted kernel in odin, download a ROM and install it through the recovery if you want to after that.

ryedunn said:
I attempted to root my phone using 1-click root app and it looked like everything went well. I was able to tether, titanium backup could access what it needed to, etc. As I continued to try new apps I started to see an error message more and more "<app name> as been denied super user permissions". At first I thought nothing of it but now Im starting to question it my phone is fully rooted.
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If you were able to run Titanium you were rooted. You probably got an OTA update recently which disables your root. Just re-run the rooting package and you'll have it back.

Re-root Post OTA
+1, got the update a couple nights ago and also lost root even though I still had the Superuser app and could run the allowed programs there as root.
I used sfhub's method to root again and it was a snap:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Bonus is s/he now supports a way to turn off CIQ!

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I'm having some issues after root, could anyone help.

So I rooted my Evo using toasts root method both part 1 and 2. I am having a few issues though.
Now I haven't flashed any ROM after doing a nandroid restore at the end of the Part 2 tutorial.
Issues I'm having.
Can't set up Exchange email account. I keep getting an authentication failed. I have double and triple checked my settings. Is there a known issue with this after root?
Superuser Permissions just blank and things that I know should be asking for permission aren't? Before when I had unrEvoked things like WiFi Tether and Overclock Widget asked to be granted Superuser Permissions and now neither do and WiFi Tether won't connect.
I did have to load the apk for Superuser Permissions from a backup due to it not being there after I rooted.
I also know there has been mention of toasts root having issues with Android Market protected apps. Has this been fixed?
When I went through the root process I didn't get any unusual errors. Just a few that were my fault like not having the phone in charge only mode.
Should I just flash Flipz stock rooted rom? Should I wipe and start over?
Everything seemed to go smoothly I'm just a smidge new to Android so I'm hoping I might have just missed a step somewhere that I thought might have been optional.
Thanks in advance for the help
Flash to flipz now, thats what I ended up doing. I was also having problems with the stock rom that needed to be installed after root. Same problem with superuser, I actually had to install unrevoked, just to get superuser back, and so I could use the wireless tether. I did a wipe and installed fresh, and everything worked right away, no problems at all.
oOflyeyesOo said:
Flash to flipz now, thats what I ended up doing. I was also having problems with the stock rom that needed to be installed after root. Same problem with superuser, I actually had to install unrevoked, just to get superuser back, and so I could use the wireless tether. I did a wipe and installed fresh, and everything worked right away, no problems at all.
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Yeah looks like I'm just going with flipz. I just tried unrevoked to get back superuser permissions working and well it worked and wifi tether works now. I have now lost usb connection. Phone will charge but doesn't ask me if I want disk drive mode etc.

OH SNAP! OTA Update+Problems w/ Root

Alright, so I previously rooted my slide; installed the SU.apk, ect. ect.
I had some cool stuff namely Wifi Tether, Root Explorer, and Droidcap. Anyways, I got a message saying that the OTA update was available AND STUPIDLY without backing up via Clockwork I ran the update.
None of my root programs seem to be working, some will open but wont function properly. Yeah I messed up :/ But what now? Do I have to reroot or is there a slightly simpler solution? Thanks guys
UPDATE: Oh wow, I didn't even realize there was a new root method, and it particularly concerns my problem. I feel bad for posting this, and the mods should definitely delete this.
borealis17 said:
Alright, so I previously rooted my slide; installed the SU.apk, ect. ect.
I had some cool stuff namely Wifi Tether, Root Explorer, and Droidcap. Anyways, I got a message saying that the OTA update was available AND STUPIDLY without backuping via Clockwork I ran the update.
None of my root programs seem to be working, some will open but wont function properly. Yeah I messed up :/ But what now? Do I have to reroot or is there a slightly simpler solution? Thanks guys
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There are plenty of threads now with all the info you need. Since I did the same thing as you just go to this thread and follow what Beartard took the time to write out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710056 You should be back up and running in no time

[Q] Nand Unlocking

Hey guys, im fairly new to the whole rooting and customizing of android scene, but i rooted my epic 4g using the oneclickmethod found here. Everything has gone fine and ive been able to flash multiple roms and try different things out, but today i downloaded the font changer app which then lead me to downloading the busy box app, however i got hung up on the installation of busy box because its saying im not nand unlocked. i assumed that took place with the whole rooting method, is there anything i can do to fix that at all?
ianduh said:
Hey guys, im fairly new to the whole rooting and customizing of android scene, but i rooted my epic 4g using the oneclickmethod found here. Everything has gone fine and ive been able to flash multiple roms and try different things out, but today i downloaded the font changer app which then lead me to downloading the busy box app, however i got hung up on the installation of busy box because its saying im not nand unlocked. i assumed that took place with the whole rooting method, is there anything i can do to fix that at all?
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I believe No nand unlock is needed, unless it goes through that when rooting. Make sure superuser is up to date. Even try to uninstall superuser and re install. I had the same problem before and am trying to remember what I did. I know I uninstalled superuser & re installed and uninstalled the APP i was trying to get to work and also re installed. So try that and see if it works
Samsung doesn't NAND lock their phones.
Even try to uninstall superuser and re install. I had the same problem before and am trying to remember what I did. I know I uninstalled superuser & re installed and uninstalled the APP i was trying to get to work and also re installed. So try that and see if it works
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i dont mean to sound completely stupid, but how do i go about uninstalling/reinstalling superuser, do i just re-root the phone? Just asking before i try anything so i minimize my chance of bricking, thanks guys.
why dont you link us to the app not working?
If you have a ROM installed chances are that you already have busybox, there that most dev's include it on there ROMs.
I think that your trying to install Busybox in an area of your phone were its currently mounted as Read Only and not R/W. Double check the destination of the busybox installer (it will give you several options) and choose from there.

Why do I keep losing root?

My Verizon GNex is rooted, I have CWM, superuser etc, even installed this rom, but I keep losing root after an hour or so. I use root explorer, open a terminal, su, do things, do it again in a few minutes and it suddenly won't log in as root.
When this happens, my wifi also craps out. It shows signal strength too low to connect when I'm standing next to the router. Reflashing CWM or superuser does nothing. Last night I wiped and went back to stock and it worked for a while, but I've found I can also flash that rom and it will work for a while and that is easier. Root survives multiple reboots but just stops working for no reason after a while.
Example: I flashed that rom this morning and rebooted 2-3 times, went to the mall and kept opening root explorer to see if root was working. I sat and watched my daughter play at the mall for nearly an hour. When she wanted something to drink, I checked and root was still working. I went to the store nearby, got a water, sat back down and no longer had root.
I'm not getting any OTA notification or anything, it just stops being rooted out of the blue.
Any ideas?
Darn, halfway down page two already and no replies...
same issue here
I'm glad I'm not the only one. How did you root?
followed this until step 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
Me too. I used a different guide, but it looks like it was exactly same.
Do you use root explorer? I was only using it to check if I had root yesterday -it opens when rooted, doesn't when root is lost- and after losing root I noticed its battery usage was nearly as high as the displays although I had only opened it for 2 seconds several times.
Last night I rerouted before bed and didn't touch root explorer and im still rooted ten hours later. May not be related, and I could lose root at and time, but I was losing it every hour or two, so I'm starting to get optimistic that root explorer may have had something to do with it.
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fubaya said:
Do you use root explorer? I was only using it to check if I had root yesterday -it opens when rooted, doesn't when root is lost- and after losing root I noticed its battery usage was nearly as high as the displays although I had only opened it for 2 seconds several times.
Last night I rerouted before bed and didn't touch root explorer and im still rooted ten hours later. May not be related, and I could lose root at and time, but I was losing it every hour or two, so I'm starting to get optimistic that root explorer may have had something to do with it.
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Haven't seen this specific issue much with the Galaxy Nexus yet. I had this problem 1.5 yrs ago with an older Samsung Android device though. Solution was a bit complex, but haven't seen this issue in a long while.
I know root can be a bit hidden from Android unless adb is connect or using a terminal application. For this reason, m root check application is generally a good program to run a simple diagnostic of the root configuration on the device.
The Pro version, 99 cents in the Market and free on XDA has a widget which will update at the interval you pick, 1-24 hrs with the root status and gives a more thoroughly diagnostic output of the system su binaries and their properties.
Hope that helps!
Try putting the su binary in /system/xbin. I lost root after the OTA update to ITL41F, but busybox in /system/xbin survived.
I have root checker and when I lose root, it still says everything is OK. Superuser logs also show that apps have been allowed, but the apps just don't get root. When it happens, everything loses root, terminals root explorer, titanium backup etc. even the superuser app can't update the su binary.
I still have root after 11+ hours (crossing fingers)
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motopig said:
Try putting the su binary in /system/xbin. I lost root after the OTA update to ITL41F, but busybox in /system/xbin survived.
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The su binary will have also remained after an OTA, same as busybox. The difference is their permissions. Every OTA re-sets the binary direction permissions as 755 stripping out the setuid attribute required by su, but not required by busybox.
This would explain why after using an OTA the user will lose "root" access but maintain busybox access. Both binaries persist, but the su binary loses the setuid attribute required to elevate access for root.
fubaya said:
I have root checker and when I lose root, it still says everything is OK. Superuser logs also show that apps have been allowed, but the apps just don't get root. When it happens, everything loses root, terminals root explorer, titanium backup etc. even the superuser app can't update the su binary.
I still have root after 11+ hours (crossing fingers)
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Well the key here, as I stated above, would be to see whether or not the su binary still has the setuid attribute and UID/GID set as root.
Any of those changes could remove the ability of the su binary to esclate permissions as root. In theory, any application which has been granted root access through Superuser, could remove root access for the whole system.
I can't imagine any reason why a developer would intentionally write an application to do that under a different title which you would be using.
Hope the technical details help!
I never had an OTA update after rooting, at least there were no notifications or anything. I do agree it acted as if the binary permissions got screwed up somehow, I don't know why I didn't check. Reflashing the su.zip didn't help. I assume flashing would set the permissions.
Well, nearly 24 hours and I still have root so, whatever it was, I'm happy now.
I just realized i no longer have root and i did the ota update recently. Problem is i cant get root back no matter what i try. I reinstalled the latest superuser from market with no luck. Any advice?
I forgot to mention i am completly stock on 4.0.1 and ITL41F. All i did with this phone is unlock the bootloader and the guide i used i think pdanet put SU apk automatically installed. My apps like root explorer all showed they did have root access. But now i tried to use root explorer and it claimed it had access, but couldnt get root.
My SU apk was updated to latest from the market. I just uninstalled the update and still no luck. Reinstall update and still no luck..
When it happened to me, the only thing that worked was to reflash the rom and go through the rooting process again. There is a thread in the development section about going back to stock where you can find the stock rom. you'll lose apps and things and may want to back them up first.
You could probably flash a new rom instead. I don't remember which one it was, but I was using a 4.0 rom that had su and didn't require wiping anything so reflashing was painless.
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Crap ok thanks. I cant backup anything with titanium cause it cant get root, so i guess i jyst have to lose everything. Might as well go with one of the roms i guess. I kinda was just enjoying stock with root.
Oh the other problem i have is i'm getting a fastboot error. Boot into bootloader and at the bottom of the screen says "fastboot FAILstatus" below. Any idea what thats about?
Some apps can export their settings the sdcard so don't forget to check them. I know when I lose everything there's really only 4-5 apps that require much setup while the others just require a login, but luckily those 4-5 apps can export their settings.
I don't know about the error, I'm not very good with fastboot. I use it when I get a new phone then go a couple of years without using it.
i finally got rooted again. For some reason it just wouldnt take. I had to use superboot over and over and over again and then finally it just took successfully even though i didnt anything differently. Very strange.

[Q] Root with No Root Access on SGH-M919?

I'm not really sure what happened. I followed verbatim the instructions for motochopper, I was able to flash TWRP, and I was even able to flash the 4.2 Camera with Photo Sphere (though it doesn't work at all.), but when I try to run anything that requires root access, (Titanium Backup, for example), it tells me that it was unable to get root access. SuperSU tells me that it needs to update the superuser binary, but it always fails, and never tells me why. ChainsDD superuser is also giving me the same issue. I am very definitely stumped. I am open to all ideas at this point.
It's also starting to get glitchy since I did this, so I may just reset it until I can find some other way to get this thing rooted.
I do love it tho. Surprised a friend by controlling their TV with it. :angel:
I believe you need this: (I had to install before my root worked.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271976
seattlestexan said:
I'm not really sure what happened. I followed verbatim the instructions for motochopper, I was able to flash TWRP, and I was even able to flash the 4.2 Camera with Photo Sphere (though it doesn't work at all.), but when I try to run anything that requires root access, (Titanium Backup, for example), it tells me that it was unable to get root access. SuperSU tells me that it needs to update the superuser binary, but it always fails, and never tells me why. ChainsDD superuser is also giving me the same issue. I am very definitely stumped. I am open to all ideas at this point.
It's also starting to get glitchy since I did this, so I may just reset it until I can find some other way to get this thing rooted.
I do love it tho. Surprised a friend by controlling their TV with it. :angel:
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Thats what happened to me, and this is thread where I asked and got help to fix it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288234
Okay, now I have root, verified that with SuperSU, Titanium Backup, and ROM Manager. Schweeeeeeeeet! Now if I could just get the Photospheres to work, I'd be in great shape!

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