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Anyway to log calls to calendar appointments?

I have seen apps on the Pro version of WM but nothing yet for smartphones?
thanks

mpovolo said:
I have seen apps on the Pro version of WM but nothing yet for smartphones?
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just interested - what is the exact functionality you need?

When you make or receive a call, the number and name is put into an appointment subject at that time.

mpovolo said:
When you make or receive a call, the number and name is put into an appointment subject at that time.
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Billing by the hour -- nice. I bet there's a lot of people who would be willing to pay for this feature....

Sounds nice. Esp if I could limit it to a few numbers, or if I hit something to activate it during/just after the call.

I havent found a program that does exactly that but I use 'callstojournal' by Chapura which takes the call logs and syncs with Outlook Journal on the relevant timeline.
It also matches (on occassions) to the contact in outlook so it shows under the activity history of the contact.
Highly recommend.

Windows Phone 7 missing functions/features

List of features/ function Windows Phone 7 is missing on release:
Call Log to show call duration
Independent media/ keypad/ ringtone/ notifcation volume controls
Haptic Feedback
Ability to set Silent from volume buttons (Only Vibrate/ Ring at present)
Preview pictures to attach to text message (Have to add first then view currently)
Option to delete all conversations from text messages
Text message delivery reports received as seperate message (should just show tick or cross next to message)
Option to repeat notifications (for example alert text every 5 minutes)
Forward on busy, forward on no answer, forward on unavailable in phone settings (Currently have to be set using network codes)
Confirmation to switch off (Quite easy to switch phone off by holding lock button)
Combined inbox for all emails
Notification LED options to flash for text/ email/ reminder (currently just missed calls
Advanced WiFi Options (Hidden Networks, static IPs)
Customise Start Screen background
Custom ring tones/ notification sounds
Filter in People Hub
Facebook Albums from friends in the Gallery
Purchased Apps/ Music list in the MarketPlace
Fast switching of settings e.g. WiFi/ Bluetooth
Option to keep screen on during charge
Option to hide contents of SMS in toast popup
Please comment

Regarding call forwarding, I believe you can achieve this by using codes in the phone dialer. I saw it in one of the tip documents (but I agree would be good to have in settings).

Call settings
legoszm said:
Regarding call forwarding, I believe you can achieve this by using codes in the phone dialer. I saw it in one of the tip documents (but I agree would be good to have in settings).
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I can confirm that the call forwarding options have to be set using the Network codes. Don't understand why you are not able to do this in the settings. Hopefully this will come with an update in the near future.

- ringtones volume, media volume and games sound/music volume are the same, caused me missed the calls last night.
- no official WLM from microsoft

No communicator/wlm is disappointing.
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Word is the WP7 does not yet support rSAP. This is very much needed for Bluetooth handsfree car usage. Especially important in Europe where you must BY LAW use handsfree phone.

Re delivery notifications; the problem is network dependent isn't it? I don't think each SMS is individually identifiable on the network. So if I send two text messages to one number and only one is delivered, which one would be marked delivered?
I don't think this feature is supported on any device?

paulrockliffe said:
Re delivery notifications; the problem is network dependent isn't it? I don't think each SMS is individually identifiable on the network. So if I send two text messages to one number and only one is delivered, which one would be marked delivered?
I don't think this feature is supported on any device?
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Not sure on whether you can't identify which SMS gets through or not but I would have thought that each SMS would have pretty much have it's own UID and therefore could
Re delivery notifications though, you are spot on. It's carrier/network dependant. O2 have never supported/provided SMS delivery (although you can get a report from MMS which is odd). Phones do support reporting of message delivery though.

Yeah, sorry that wasn't clear, phones do support the messages and some phones do treat them differently, eg my old Nokia 7210 flashes delivery notices on screen rather than just telling em I have a new message. But I don't think any phones can have an inbox that has a tick or a cross next to each message depending on whether it's been delivered because the messages don't have a UID. Happy to be corrected on that but with the SMS standard being as old as it is I don't think it's a given that each message has a unique ID.

- no support for hidden wireless (personal and enterprise)!
- no real outlook sync....
- missing rotation features in some hubs e.g. the cam
- filtering option in contact-news
- maybe a gallery from facebook friends in pictures
- a second page for marketplace apps/hubs ?
like my htc trophy and its great for a 1.0 but i hope microsoft will update soon... f.e. on every Patchday ???

Here's my 5p worth:
- No Static IP's possible on WiFi
- I actually hate the Metro GUI or whatever they call it. I'd love to be able to completely change my homescreen
- No Desktop Background, only for locked screen. Goes hand in hand with the above
- Did I say I hate those squares?
I generally feel that this OS is a bit like Marmite. You either love it or you hate it. Nothing in between. Which is a bit crap. If it was more adjustable and customizable I would be happier. That's why I like Android.

enjoythemusic said:
Word is the WP7 does not yet support rSAP. This is very much needed for Bluetooth handsfree car usage. Especially important in Europe where you must BY LAW use handsfree phone.
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I use a Parrot MKi9000 and it connects, downloads my address book (using OBEX) and I can voice dial. I can also control the media playback using the buttons on my handsfree kit.

qilong said:
- no official WLM from microsoft
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gir283 said:
No communicator/wlm is disappointing.
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Microsoft used Miyowa to develop Messenger for Windows Phone 7. You can download this from the MarketPlace.

paulrockliffe said:
Re delivery notifications; the problem is network dependent isn't it? I don't think each SMS is individually identifiable on the network. So if I send two text messages to one number and only one is delivered, which one would be marked delivered?
I don't think this feature is supported on any device?
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Both Android and my Sony phones supported delivery notifications. The sony implementation was very good with a simple tick or cross next to the message. Android is a bit messy but does work on a per message basis. SMS messages include a header (much like an email) that you don't see on the phone and this contains all the information individually identifying the message.

LoNy1 said:
no real outlook sync....
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What do you mean?
LoNy1 said:
missing rotation features in some hubs e.g. the cam
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This is I believe by design. I don't think rotating the camera screen would be a good thing.
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filtering option in contact-news
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To filter what exactly?
LoNy1 said:
maybe a gallery from facebook friends in pictures
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I already get facebook, skydrive and others in the gallery!
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a second page for marketplace apps/hubs?
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What do you mean?

My contacts went straight onto my cars radio through bluetooth, so your doing something wrong.
I would like to be able to go into my gallery and then select a facebook friend and view all their photos, or view all there photos from the peoples hub.
REALLY want to be able to set my own ringtone
Other than that, I am happy, wondering where the 50-60 xbox live games a launch went though.

haven't gotten my windows phone yet so can't help you there on first point. as for the second point, supposeably ringtones can be set by apps and are meant to become available in the market place, but i agree, i would prefer to be able to set mine rather than purchase.

mictho100 said:
Here's my 5p worth:
- No Static IP's possible on WiFi
- I actually hate the Metro GUI or whatever they call it. I'd love to be able to completely change my homescreen
- No Desktop Background, only for locked screen. Goes hand in hand with the above
- Did I say I hate those squares?
I generally feel that this OS is a bit like Marmite. You either love it or you hate it. Nothing in between. Which is a bit crap. If it was more adjustable and customizable I would be happier. That's why I like Android.
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Anyone that claims they love this OS is either on the Microsoft payroll or they are deceiving themselves because they find it too difficult to face the realisation that they upgraded to something with fewer features than their old phone.

The most important thing this OS lacks: File management. Don't make me dig up those old threads!

enak said:
What do you mean?
This is I believe by design. I don't think rotating the camera screen would be a good thing.
To filter what exactly?
I already get facebook, skydrive and others in the gallery!
What do you mean?
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first outlook syncronisation:
the only way to have all your contacts, calender from outlook in your phone is trough an exchange or copying all into windows live.. no active sync until now
second filtering:
in facebook you have so much things you "like" and games... all those messages spamming your contact news... no chance to see only your friends messages from facebook.
third gallery:
In the gallery I only have a set of my Facebook pictures, but would be nice if there where also those of my friends
fourth second page:
I find you miss the overview of microsoft apps from the phone and those you are downloading from the market. If there were two seperate pages.. one phone 7 .. second downloaded apps, would help finding apps.

Answering Machine

Do someboby have an Answering Machine for android???

your provider doesn't provide voice-mail for you?? How do you expect some Ansering machine to work if your device is off or in flightmode??

LumeriA said:
your provider doesn't provide voice-mail for you?? How do you expect some Ansering machine to work if your device is off or in flightmode??
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Providers charge for that service and many people want it done on their phone. I am looking for that kind of app too.

Assuming your phone will accept the call, I guess you can use "Tasker" to do just about anything, eg, answer the call, initiate media file (your message), hang-up.

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Assuming your phone will accept the call, I guess you can use "Tasker" to do just about anything, eg, answer the call, initiate media file (your message), hang-up.
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Good to know that tasker can do this but it will only play a media file of my voice record I am looking for a dedicated app which works as answering machine & then let the "unknown" caller record a message which is stored on my phone.
Basically I get to many spam calls which if I block using the white list, it also blocks genuine calls from those who may want to contact me but are not in my contact list, answering machine will allow to leave them a 1 min message so I can get back to those people.
Anybody knows if such apps exist?

Have you tried Google voice? It has a voicemail service and I think you can apply it to any number
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full Google Voice on WP7

I have always been an android fan since the G1, but REALLLY interested in WP7, thinking of buying the htc arrive on sprint but theirs ONE thing holding me back. And thats Google Voice.
I use GV for my main number for texitng AND calling.
I know they have some GV apps but can never seem to get a clear answer. I need to be able to receive and make calls along with texting and receiving. any WP7 GV app for that?

There are a couple of GV apps but I still use the actual website because I think it works better.
If you download zune I believe you can download the WP7 Marketplace still if you wanted to look for yourself.

well I use zune and looked. but wasnt sure if I can call on those. Like of course android GV app will be better. but say someone calls my GV number I want my WP7 to ring just like normal

i use google voice on android and it rocks

well I know its awesome on android thats what I use. I just want the baic features to work if im gonna get a WP7 device like texting and making and receiving calls to my GV number

It works on wp7. Its not quite as fully integrated as there is no official app, and there is no socket API as of yet. This means the 3rd party apps have to send you notifications directly from their own servers for true notifications, otherwise it will load when you open the app and check for new messages.
I use the GoVoice application on wp7 and it notifies me (through 3rd party) of sms messages ect, and gives me my google voice mails/translations/playback just fine. It works, you can make calls, receive calls, texts, get transcripts/playback just like on android, its just a little bit more limited than the Android version. When the sockets api comes out for dev's this will quickly be addressed with true notifications and be more similar to what you are used to.
http://www.wpcentral.com/wp7-google-voice-clients-–-review-roundup

hmm thanks. I think im gonna try the HTC Arrive on sprint. I looove android, but sometimes just want a phone thats very quick. simple and looks great. plus I love Zune Pass. The only thing holding me back was using GV. but GoVoice seems great

samrozzi said:
hmm thanks. I think im gonna try the HTC Arrive on sprint. I looove android, but sometimes just want a phone thats very quick. simple and looks great. plus I love Zune Pass. The only thing holding me back was using GV. but GoVoice seems great
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Yah I'm pretty heavily tied in to Google Voice. Use it for work and all my voicemails. GoVoice gets the job done good enough till a full fledged one can be written when Sockets API is released. But when that happens I will definitely be looking for one as great as what Android had

dtboos said:
It works on wp7. Its not quite as fully integrated as there is no official app, and there is no socket API as of yet. This means the 3rd party apps have to send you notifications directly from their own servers for true notifications, otherwise it will load when you open the app and check for new messages.
I use the GoVoice application on wp7 and it notifies me (through 3rd party) of sms messages ect, and gives me my google voice mails/translations/playback just fine. It works, you can make calls, receive calls, texts, get transcripts/playback just like on android, its just a little bit more limited than the Android version. When the sockets api comes out for dev's this will quickly be addressed with true notifications and be more similar to what you are used to.
http://www.wpcentral.com/wp7-google-voice-clients-–-review-roundup
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I'm curious how you expect a Socket API to make the notifications better.

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I'm curious how you expect a Socket API to make the notifications better.
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The reason you don't see any [functioning] Instant messenger apps, and why GoVoice needs this 'workaround' is there is no way for the dev's to bind to a port or IP address on a host, giving way for the notifications you would normally be used to. Until MS gives these API's out, only bandaid workarounds will be available.
Or am I missing something?

If there is a way to make/recieve phone calls using GoVoice, then I must be too stupid to figure it out. When I attempted to make calls, it would somehow remotely call from my other on contract phone, while also causing my on contract phone to ring until I answered it. Really confusing to describe, but it was equally confusing watching it happen.

dtboos said:
The reason you don't see any [functioning] Instant messenger apps, and why GoVoice needs this 'workaround' is there is no way for the dev's to bind to a port or IP address on a host, giving way for the notifications you would normally be used to. Until MS gives these API's out, only bandaid workarounds will be available.
Or am I missing something?
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I don't think what they are doing is a workaround, I'm not too sure how they'd do it otherwise. One of the major reasons for push notifications is to be used when the application isn't running. Having a Socket API isn't going to help at all if the application isn't running, right?

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I don't think what they are doing is a workaround, I'm not too sure how they'd do it otherwise. One of the major reasons for push notifications is to be used when the application isn't running. Having a Socket API isn't going to help at all if the application isn't running, right?
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hmm...thats true...so I would assume (hopefully) that sockets support comes with the multitasking update? Are programs going to be able to periodically check for information while not running in the foreground? You will need this for 'in app' notifications instead of the workaround; I call it that because it is. Well, a workaround the lack of what is necessary to do these like on other systems (BB, palm, Symbian, iOS, Android ect). GoVoice uses a secondary user account on Gmax. Gmax has to watch your account for changes and then send you notifications to the phone, as opposed to doing this inside the app.
I'm no programmer, so I'm not sure exactly all what is needed. But shouldn't these programs be able to bind to certain ports, and when messages come in, they are pushed to your device? Does the program need to be running all the time? or will the notification being sent from a specific host/port 'awaken' the application with a notification? Maybe somebody can clarify this for me. How do the other systems do this? You should be able to get a notification while doing other things, since you can obviously already do this with the MS applications.
To me, this type of functionality is pretty necessary to many applications people will need on their phones.

In iOS4, Apple added the ability for VOIP applications to run in the background. That in combination with a Socket API (which is necessary for VOIP anyway) is probably what you're after.

tiny17 said:
If there is a way to make/recieve phone calls using GoVoice, then I must be too stupid to figure it out. When I attempted to make calls, it would somehow remotely call from my other on contract phone, while also causing my on contract phone to ring until I answered it. Really confusing to describe, but it was equally confusing watching it happen.
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GoVoice dials directly using the same method that Android's Voice application uses. There's no call-back when connecting the call. It simply calls an intermediary Google number, which dials out to whomever you're calling.

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GoVoice dials directly using the same method that Android's Voice application uses. There's no call-back when connecting the call. It simply calls an intermediary Google number, which dials out to whomever you're calling.
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Interesting. I must have messed something up in the setup then.

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Interesting. I must have messed something up in the setup then.
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Did you use Google Voice web page on your desktop PC to make a call and remembered that setting? It is possible that GoVoice gets affected by your Google Voice web page settings.
BTW, on Android Phones, Google Voice is fully integrated with the phone dial pad as well so that you don't need to pull up the Google Voice app in order to make a call. You set up rules about when you want to make GV calls (all calls or only international calls) and just dial your number or contacts in regular Android phone dialer pad.

[Q] Sending "Private number" to voicemail

I would like to find a way to send incoming "Private number" calls to voicemail, without downloading an app (with the security risks involved with this, as all apps I found want to read phone #, all of my contacts, and have access to the internet).
In Googling I found that on other, older, phones you could create a contact with "Private number" in the mobile phone field and select the "All calls to voicemail". I tried this on my Galaxy Nexus running 4.0.4 and it doesn't seem to be working.
Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?
Or does anybody know an app that is not a security risk (i.e. does not request access to the internet and/or my phone and/or my contacts)?
BTW, these are the permissions that one of these Apps (this one called Calls Blacklist) is requesting:
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
RECEIVE SMS
READ SMS OR MMS
EDIT SMS OR MMS
NETWORK COMMUNICATION
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
MODIFY/DELETE USB STORAGE CONTENTS MODIFY/DELETE SD CARD CONTENTS
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
CHANGE WI-FI STATE
PREVENT TABLET FROM SLEEPING PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING
MODIFY GLOBAL SYSTEM SETTINGS
CHANGE/INTERCEPT NETWORK SETTINGS AND TRAFFIC
DISPLAY SYSTEM-LEVEL ALERTS

You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
That would be like me saying to you; "I'm sorry sir, you're not appropriately dressed for this restaurant." over the phone.
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.

Security risks? The app kinda needs that information. You're better off not installing any apps as any of them could steal your valuable phone number.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

Liskrig said:
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
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Duh, of course, it's not listed above as one of the unneeded permissions above.
But none of these are even remotely needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
Liskrig said:
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
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How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
Besides the fact that yet another app means yet another thing that can go wrong (battery drain, system instability, etc.)
Back to the original question: "Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?"

hillrider said:
Duh, of course!
But none of these are needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then. You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you. Ever thought of who could be hacking your Wi-fi? They could steal and intercept ANYTHING sent through your home internet.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco

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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then.
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None found, hence this thread.
A response to the OP, without flaming and personal attacks would be greatly appreciated.

theking_13 said:
... You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco
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If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about) and switch to a Google Voice number, you can set it through the website settings that anonymous callers are directly routed to voicemail.

copkay said:
If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about)
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!
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and switch to a Google Voice number
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This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.[/QUOTE]
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Yeah, the replies haven't been particularly helpful so far. It's not "paranoid" to at least question the security of these apps, although the most popular ones are most likely fine.
You have a point with the non-Voice number. There's also the "no-turning-back" solution of porting your existing number to Google Voice for $20, which would then fix the problem, but it's not particularly ideal unless you're 100% sold on GV.

hillrider said:
Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
I actually have 2 Google Voice numbers and my normal Verizon one (3 total). One for Personal, one for my side Website business, and my normal job.
I don't restrict any callers but there are options in there for unknowns and the likes. At least you can setup CALL SCREENING, where it asks for the persons name. So I can answer ANY call, it will say, "Call from... Donut Marketing" and it gives me 2 options, 1 to take the call... and 2 to send to VM.
If you press 2, it then says, "Ok I've sent the caller to VM. Press STAR at any time to join the call". So if the VM is someone I WANT to speak with, I just pop in and say Hi. Most Marketers will shy away from leaving their name... no name, no call. They typically hang up immediately. Still prevents me from having to talk to them and try to get off the phone.
Even when they do leave me a Google Voice Mail, it gets translated to text and emailed to me so I can read it seconds after they've left it. Then just delete like a normal email.
Super easy.
You can probably also call up your carrier and say you are getting lots of Marketing calls from Unknown numbers and want them blocked. They'll probably want to charge you a fee... but maybe not.

player911 said:
Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
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how did you get verizon to port your number without killing your contract? i just called and they said its not possible.

Root call blocker does this.