I have always been an android fan since the G1, but REALLLY interested in WP7, thinking of buying the htc arrive on sprint but theirs ONE thing holding me back. And thats Google Voice.
I use GV for my main number for texitng AND calling.
I know they have some GV apps but can never seem to get a clear answer. I need to be able to receive and make calls along with texting and receiving. any WP7 GV app for that?
There are a couple of GV apps but I still use the actual website because I think it works better.
If you download zune I believe you can download the WP7 Marketplace still if you wanted to look for yourself.
well I use zune and looked. but wasnt sure if I can call on those. Like of course android GV app will be better. but say someone calls my GV number I want my WP7 to ring just like normal
i use google voice on android and it rocks
well I know its awesome on android thats what I use. I just want the baic features to work if im gonna get a WP7 device like texting and making and receiving calls to my GV number
It works on wp7. Its not quite as fully integrated as there is no official app, and there is no socket API as of yet. This means the 3rd party apps have to send you notifications directly from their own servers for true notifications, otherwise it will load when you open the app and check for new messages.
I use the GoVoice application on wp7 and it notifies me (through 3rd party) of sms messages ect, and gives me my google voice mails/translations/playback just fine. It works, you can make calls, receive calls, texts, get transcripts/playback just like on android, its just a little bit more limited than the Android version. When the sockets api comes out for dev's this will quickly be addressed with true notifications and be more similar to what you are used to.
http://www.wpcentral.com/wp7-google-voice-clients-–-review-roundup
hmm thanks. I think im gonna try the HTC Arrive on sprint. I looove android, but sometimes just want a phone thats very quick. simple and looks great. plus I love Zune Pass. The only thing holding me back was using GV. but GoVoice seems great
samrozzi said:
hmm thanks. I think im gonna try the HTC Arrive on sprint. I looove android, but sometimes just want a phone thats very quick. simple and looks great. plus I love Zune Pass. The only thing holding me back was using GV. but GoVoice seems great
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Yah I'm pretty heavily tied in to Google Voice. Use it for work and all my voicemails. GoVoice gets the job done good enough till a full fledged one can be written when Sockets API is released. But when that happens I will definitely be looking for one as great as what Android had
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It works on wp7. Its not quite as fully integrated as there is no official app, and there is no socket API as of yet. This means the 3rd party apps have to send you notifications directly from their own servers for true notifications, otherwise it will load when you open the app and check for new messages.
I use the GoVoice application on wp7 and it notifies me (through 3rd party) of sms messages ect, and gives me my google voice mails/translations/playback just fine. It works, you can make calls, receive calls, texts, get transcripts/playback just like on android, its just a little bit more limited than the Android version. When the sockets api comes out for dev's this will quickly be addressed with true notifications and be more similar to what you are used to.
http://www.wpcentral.com/wp7-google-voice-clients-–-review-roundup
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I'm curious how you expect a Socket API to make the notifications better.
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I'm curious how you expect a Socket API to make the notifications better.
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The reason you don't see any [functioning] Instant messenger apps, and why GoVoice needs this 'workaround' is there is no way for the dev's to bind to a port or IP address on a host, giving way for the notifications you would normally be used to. Until MS gives these API's out, only bandaid workarounds will be available.
Or am I missing something?
If there is a way to make/recieve phone calls using GoVoice, then I must be too stupid to figure it out. When I attempted to make calls, it would somehow remotely call from my other on contract phone, while also causing my on contract phone to ring until I answered it. Really confusing to describe, but it was equally confusing watching it happen.
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The reason you don't see any [functioning] Instant messenger apps, and why GoVoice needs this 'workaround' is there is no way for the dev's to bind to a port or IP address on a host, giving way for the notifications you would normally be used to. Until MS gives these API's out, only bandaid workarounds will be available.
Or am I missing something?
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I don't think what they are doing is a workaround, I'm not too sure how they'd do it otherwise. One of the major reasons for push notifications is to be used when the application isn't running. Having a Socket API isn't going to help at all if the application isn't running, right?
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I don't think what they are doing is a workaround, I'm not too sure how they'd do it otherwise. One of the major reasons for push notifications is to be used when the application isn't running. Having a Socket API isn't going to help at all if the application isn't running, right?
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hmm...thats true...so I would assume (hopefully) that sockets support comes with the multitasking update? Are programs going to be able to periodically check for information while not running in the foreground? You will need this for 'in app' notifications instead of the workaround; I call it that because it is. Well, a workaround the lack of what is necessary to do these like on other systems (BB, palm, Symbian, iOS, Android ect). GoVoice uses a secondary user account on Gmax. Gmax has to watch your account for changes and then send you notifications to the phone, as opposed to doing this inside the app.
I'm no programmer, so I'm not sure exactly all what is needed. But shouldn't these programs be able to bind to certain ports, and when messages come in, they are pushed to your device? Does the program need to be running all the time? or will the notification being sent from a specific host/port 'awaken' the application with a notification? Maybe somebody can clarify this for me. How do the other systems do this? You should be able to get a notification while doing other things, since you can obviously already do this with the MS applications.
To me, this type of functionality is pretty necessary to many applications people will need on their phones.
In iOS4, Apple added the ability for VOIP applications to run in the background. That in combination with a Socket API (which is necessary for VOIP anyway) is probably what you're after.
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If there is a way to make/recieve phone calls using GoVoice, then I must be too stupid to figure it out. When I attempted to make calls, it would somehow remotely call from my other on contract phone, while also causing my on contract phone to ring until I answered it. Really confusing to describe, but it was equally confusing watching it happen.
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GoVoice dials directly using the same method that Android's Voice application uses. There's no call-back when connecting the call. It simply calls an intermediary Google number, which dials out to whomever you're calling.
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GoVoice dials directly using the same method that Android's Voice application uses. There's no call-back when connecting the call. It simply calls an intermediary Google number, which dials out to whomever you're calling.
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Interesting. I must have messed something up in the setup then.
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Interesting. I must have messed something up in the setup then.
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Did you use Google Voice web page on your desktop PC to make a call and remembered that setting? It is possible that GoVoice gets affected by your Google Voice web page settings.
BTW, on Android Phones, Google Voice is fully integrated with the phone dial pad as well so that you don't need to pull up the Google Voice app in order to make a call. You set up rules about when you want to make GV calls (all calls or only international calls) and just dial your number or contacts in regular Android phone dialer pad.
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Since YouMail have released their API with documentation, I was hoping someone would be able to whip up a nice Windows Mobile client for this service. I can't be the only one who uses YouMail and would love to have it on his phone without going through Opera. Anyone interested?
I use youmail too, but I never really felt the need for a separate app. My wife has an Iphone, and I've seen the app on hers but wasn't impressed. I just set it up on the favorites panel. And I get emailed with a link to the message anyway, so I dont even launch it that way very often.
I'm not trying to discourage you, just giving my point of view.
I actually have an iphone with the youmail app on it and I find it invaluable. It's a far better solution for me than having to open up safari to go to the mobile site. The program sends a push notification rather than clogging up my email inbox with useless junk, and it's just all around a much more pleasant experience. Considering they felt the need to make clients for iPhone, Android, and Blackberry, obviously a lot of people agree with that sentiment. But to each his own I guess. I'm still hoping someone with some programming talent will be willing and able to whip something up.
I use and love you mail. I'm starting a project for a WM client. Dont wait up because I wont have much time to work on it. Once it progresses enough I might ask someone here to do some graphics for me. It will work by intercepting you mail sms messages. When it catches a message from youmail it will sync with the online acct. It will also feature a chome plugin to replace the existing missed call and VM plugins.
If possible I will also suppress the system missed call notification and show my own. Currently it annoys me that i get a text from youmail for notification of missed calls and I still get the built in missed call notification. I would like to disable the built in one. One advantage of youmail is that if someone calls you and your phone has no signal or is off, you mail still sends you a missed call notification. On the other hand if someone calls and hangs up before it goes to voicemail the system will show a notification but youmail is never aware of the call. Therefore I will suppress the system notification and show my own notifications if the system gets a missed call or if youmail gets a missed call (and each time I will need to check to see if they are notifying of the same call or if a different one occured). Better get coding.
I hope you get some time soon to work on it. Sounds great! I did a mockup of how I envisioned such a program and made some rudimentary graphics. Feel free to PM me if you are interested in them.
I'm interested too!
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I use and love you mail. I'm starting a project for a WM client. Dont wait up because I wont have much time to work on it. Once it progresses enough I might ask someone here to do some graphics for me. It will work by intercepting you mail sms messages. When it catches a message from youmail it will sync with the online acct. It will also feature a chome plugin to replace the existing missed call and VM plugins.
If possible I will also suppress the system missed call notification and show my own. Currently it annoys me that i get a text from youmail for notification of missed calls and I still get the built in missed call notification. I would like to disable the built in one. One advantage of youmail is that if someone calls you and your phone has no signal or is off, you mail still sends you a missed call notification. On the other hand if someone calls and hangs up before it goes to voicemail the system will show a notification but youmail is never aware of the call. Therefore I will suppress the system notification and show my own notifications if the system gets a missed call or if youmail gets a missed call (and each time I will need to check to see if they are notifying of the same call or if a different one occured). Better get coding.
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i hope you get some a chance to work on this i would be interested in testing this it would be nice to have a more functional youmail app it would be nice if this could work with google voice also as far as the notifcations system
this is a quick little app i whipped up like a week or two ago its nothing special but it works for your basic youmail needs. this is a quick easy solution to my needs so im sharing it with you all.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=98059
doesnt store number
works on acer neotouch but doesn't store the login info. Better to just use a favorites link on desktop and use that instead. thanks for trying though.
I have already switched to G-Voice as my voice mail provider, but I was wondering what else is good about it? I love the text transcript of voice mails, but I do not know much about this program.
Why would you want to create a Google number? What are the perks?
What are some things that are not commonly known about it? Tricks? I have a feeling there are a bunch of things I do not know about it because I have not had enough time to really get into it.
Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
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Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
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If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
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If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
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Not so much, but you can use it to send texts, and long distance calls. If you go in the settings you can configure it. Also, if you sign out on that phone, you can use it on another phone and keep your messages, I find it to be nice.
First, a word of warning. When you use Google Voice to make outgoing calls, it is considered a call to a landline. So you are eating your Anytime minutes when using this. So the unlimited mobile to mobile on any carrier option does not apply. Keep that in mind. Someone on these forums ended up with a $5000 bill. lol Luckily they got it reversed.
#1 Block callers
#2 Ring all numbers you designate
#3 Calls can come through Google Chat/Gmail
#4 Can give your GV number to people you don't like.
#5 Voicemail screening. You can screen people leaving a voicemail and decide to answer as they are leaving the message or just have it go through to voicemail. Although almost all my friends just hang up and decide to just blow my phone up instead -.-
#6 Listen to your VM on any computer with internet access.
Couple of things:
1) Free text messaging through GV. You get texts in the GV app on your EVO, through google.com/voice, and you can get them through the GV app on other devices.
2) Cheap international calling.
3) One phone number for multiple phones. I have GV set up so it can ring my work phone, cellphone, SIP number, Gmail chat widget, and home phone simultaneously, or on a schedule.
4) Don't need cell service to text, call, or get voicemails. This is extremely useful if you have a WiFi-only tablet or device, such as the upcoming WiFi Xoom. Also, if I'm in an area of the building at work where there's crap service, I can just turn on WiFi, connect, and get my texts through there, and use SIP to make/receive calls.
5) Everything is saved online. Texts, voicemails, and call logs are all on google.com/voice so if I switch ROMs or whatever, I don't have to worry about saving my texts, voicemails, call log, contacts, emails, apps... You get the point.
Basically, Google Voice + Google Sync + Gingerbread/Froyo = 100% backed up to the cloud. I honestly only keep Titanium Backup on my phone for restoring apps that aren't in the Market, convenience (decrypting and unpacking some gzip'd tars is a LOT faster than downloading via 3G), and I have a few apps I'd rather not lose the data for (Google Authenticator, Angry Bids, Launcher Pro, etc.).
6) Customized voicemails (my mom was amazed when I had separate voicemail messages for her, my stepdad, the house number, my boss, etc.)
7) Call screening (Really nifty for those folks who block their phone number, 800 numbers, etc)
8) Free visual voicemail!
I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
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I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
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It is free under the following conditions:
1) You use it to call your SIP number that has unlimited free incoming calls (such as Sipgate).
2) You have unlimited calling to/from specified numbers (Such as Sprint's call-home or w/e, T-Mobile/Verizon/whatever's MyFaves, My Five, etc.
Also, from the app's description in the Market:
Google Voice Callback can be combined with Gizmo5/Sipdroid/Fring/Sipgate or other VOIP solutions to make free calls over wifi or 3G.
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Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
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Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
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Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
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Maybe you should not beleive everything you read there Gizmo.
And then what sip to sip to sip Haha ha
Better yet lets try it with 3G good one.
You ever try to sip anything there Gizmo
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Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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Have not used it but it's in the tips section
One thing is for sure is that you usually thank somebody and not flame them when they look out for somebody so they do not get burned. Senior members without a clue should also give thanks when a noob has to straighten them out and also apologize for being a flamer so we can get back on the question at hand
Thanks for all of this guys. I was already using it, but know about these other things is cool.
I love Google but had nothing but problems with voice....half the time or more it would say # disconnected and a host of other problems......shy away from voice in my opinion
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I love everything about GV except for the lack of MMS
I think somebody thanked me but it is now gone. Thanks if you did.
Number porting
Vanity Numbers
Blacklisting .
Gizmo was awesome but it is now gone I hope it comes back.
I used many of these apps and there is a lot to go over here so send a thanks or other if you are interested. I just do not feel like adding any technical information since I got flamed. I can also tell you that I gave a thanks to the member that informed you guys about how it can eat minutes and I hope that you did the same. Personally I would stay away from the bogus market app that is not made by gogle. It used to be called GV free dial.
Anyone else here using Google Voice? And I don't just mean for the voicemail part. I just set up a number online with them and I'm considering dropping my unlimited SMS with VZW and using the Google voice SMS instead.
I'm just curious to see if anyone else has tried this? The number I got is the same last four as my current one, but the prefix is different, so that's not too bad. I figure I could drop my bill almost $30 by no longer using VZW's SMS service.
This is one of the first reasons why Android interested me. I've never paid for txt messages & never will.
Limitations:
1. You can't send an email-to-txt to a GV number
2. You can't receive MMS
3. You can't send txts to short numbers (like "Text REDCROSS to 90999")
Unless those features are worth $360/year, I think it's an easy decision...
Been using GV as my primary number for over a year now. My most recent VZW bill shows 0 text usage even though any of my friends would tell you that we exchange tons of texts
The biggest shortcoming is the lack of MMS support. If your friends aren't in the habit of sending you picture messages though (my circle just uses email), then it's a non-issue.
It's also great that using the Local Google Voice Settings Plugin with Tasker allows me to tweak GV call forwarding on the fly. Call me while I'm at work and you'll hit my desk phone. Call me in the evenings and you'll hit my cell.
Ok everything sounds pretty good to me then, the lack of MMS support is kinda weak though, I do that pretty frequently. I was considering just straight porting my number to them, but then I decided it wouldn't be worth it with my ETF. I'll give it a shot though with email instead of MMS, with Androids and all the options to share media, I'm sure I could live without it.
Afterthought: next question about GV, anyone have a way to integrate the incredible's messaging app with the SMS of GV? Mostly because I like how I have my widgets set up and would like to continue to use them. And secondly because GV isn't the most aesthetically pleasing to me at the moment
Well, you can choose to have your GV# forward text messages to your cell#. That way you could still use your stock messaging app/widget. The problem with that approach is that people's numbers won't come through looking like their number. Instead, you'll see another number that GV is essentially using as a proxy.
Before I had an Android device, I had my contacts set-up to take this into acct. So Johnny Smith might have phone number 444-555-6767, but when he called or texted my GV#, my phone would show incoming from 999-111-2323. I would store both the regular number and the 'proxy' number into someone's contact.
Your life will be a lot easier if you just use the GV app/widget. I'll take functionality over aesthetics any day, but that's your call.
But the problem with forwarding the messages to my current carriers number is that it defeats the purpose of dropping the unlimited texting. I'll give it a shot, I future dated the change on my online account to start next billing cycle. Should give everyone enough time to take down my GV number. Thanks for the help guys! Anyone else that has something to add whether they're pros/cons please let me know.
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But the problem with forwarding the messages to my current carriers number is that it defeats the purpose of dropping the unlimited texting.
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Indeed. But you asked how to use the stock messaging app with Google Voice. That's how.
No stock messaging system is going to integrate with Google Voice while also keeping your text usage at 0. Your phone doesn't 'think' it's receiving SMS. An SMS app isn't going to 'see' the GV text (unless you have it set to forward to your existing #)
I was actually thinking about this the other day....interesting responses, thanks guys
One thing great that has gone unmentioned is the browser accessibility of google voice....phone issues? Can text anywhere you can get internet via browser. I've used that a fair amount. The way the number can be routed to other phones is always a useful thing as well. I like not being attached to my physical phone numbers anymore.
I just got a google voice account the other day. I am still trying to figure out if I like it. So far it is pretty good. The voice to text is not that accurate yet but I hear that it improves over time. I have not given it out to people yet so not sure how it will work once I do that.
Thanks for the info...
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I use GV as a business line. Complete with a business VM message. I love the fact u can screen the VM live then chime in if u wana talk. MMS is the only reason I will not use ot as a vzw replacement #.... Other wise I use it daily.
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Indeed. But you asked how to use the stock messaging app with Google Voice. That's how.
No stock messaging system is going to integrate with Google Voice while also keeping your text usage at 0. Your phone doesn't 'think' it's receiving SMS. An SMS app isn't going to 'see' the GV text (unless you have it set to forward to your existing #)
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So if I have fowared on, will the phone company still charge for the txt message from my GV?
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that's correct, you will be charged if you have texts forwarded to your carrier phone #. Think of the google voice app on phone as a chat interface that is linked to a phone #. I have also thought as mentioned it's not the prettiest app...but there are some themed versions out there to be sure.
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So if I have fowared on, will the phone company still charge for the txt message from my GV?
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Yes. If you have forwarding on, your phone treats it the same as receiving a regular text, since Google is forwarding a regular text to your Verizon phone #
I just use it to see how transcribing works. It is funny on many people but it usually gets the numbers right, which is awesome
I am with you 100% on the transcription - it is hilarious. It has no idea in the world what my wife is saying - 1 in 10 words right, I would guess! I only keep it on for the entertainment value.
So far I'm pretty happy with it. It does have those neat screening features for incoming calls. One weird thing I got was a voicemail recording of the phone ringing and my mom picking up and going "hello? hello?" Hopefully bugs like that don't happen too often. The one thing I will miss is the MMS ability, but hey, I have a Droid Incredible, there are many ways around that.
As for the themed versions of GV, can you point me in the right direction? I'd like like to see what I can find. Thanks again for all the responses, definitely made the decision a lot easier for me.
The best part of GV thus far is that I dropped my bill almost $30 a month. Sprint can suck it with there $69 simply everything plan....mine is Simply Unlimited Everything for $55 a month.
EDIT: Nevermind I found some solid looking themed GV inboxes. Thanks again everyone for responding!
This is for anyone wanting to use Google Voice as their talking system, but didn't like to because it wasn't a VoIP service. The name of the app is GrooVe IP (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en). Instead of calling your phone number, according to the instructions, since it's calling your google chat identity, it's free AND it works over wifi! I'm sure others, like myself, who have ****ty reception on the Incredible 2 but love the phone and want to use it like an actual phone, would love to know about this app.
I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol
How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?
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I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol
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Actually, when you make a call through this app, you are indeed using voip but when someone calls you, there is no way that the app can do anything because google voice can only reroute the call to your phone number. There is no such thing as voip incoming calls with google voice
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How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?
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This isn't about using google voice or not. It is about google voice over voip, not over your mobile provider's network. Let's say you are at a underground 5 floors below. You will not be able to make any calls with the regular GV app because the app only uses the provider's network and no, it doesn't use your provider's mobile data. What it does is it calls GV server and the server re-calls to your target. You do not see this on your phone because GV app changes the number for you but the real number it's calling is something very different. Something like this 219827419875018725101250.
Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.
Right, and from my understanding, when you use just regular google voice, you're still using your minutes. I still get disconnected from calls because I have horrible reception and service out here, but using the GrooVe IP app, I'm able to pull my back off and make it say I'm completely out of service and I can make a call using the wifi.
As far as what you stated about routing it to your phone number deaf, the app tells you to deselect your phone number and to select your google chat identity which is supposed to solve the issue of it dialing through to your phone when you receive a call. It just forwards it to the google chat and the app is sort of like a mediator between google chat and your phone, and the internet recognizes it as a google chat session. At least that's the way I understood it. I'm probably completely wrong because I'm just getting this app, but I'm doing more research. I thought it went through SIP because there are options in the troubleshooting thing in the app to override the STUN server which is based off of a sipgate address.
Edit: I was just thinking of this. You said it's not working right or w/e for when incoming calls come in. Have you completely logged out of google chat online and on your phone? If you're logged into GC from anything else other than the app, it will inadvertently try to call that device. So let's say your PC is logged into GC. I call your number and the app tries to forward it to the account, but GC picks up the call before your phone can and interferes with how the app is supposed to work.
You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?
@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X
deaffob said:
Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.
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Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.
Lagos3sgte said:
You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?
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Go into your troubleshooting and check off to always keep your screen on. If your screen turns off, it messes with the audio for some reason. As soon as I make a call, I quickly hit my power button twice so that it goes to the lockscreen so that I don't have to worry about accidentally dialing someone else or starting an app
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@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X
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lol, no problem man. I was thinking of doing that but was afraid what you were experiencing would happen to me. Glad to have helped you out buddy.
Fusion.Coil said:
Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.
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The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.
digitalsynner85 said:
The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.
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I get it now... Thanks people.
Anyone know of any free alternatives?
drewcam888 said:
Anyone know of any free alternatives?
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Currently there are none that I know of that don't involve intensive setting up, such as having multiple accounts to log into, setting up multiple forwarding numbers, etc. You can try getting the APK from apktop (google apktop groove ip 1.2.9 and it's the first link) and seeing if it works, but I'm not sure if it requires cracking to be able to use. This way is probably the simplest and 100% foolproof way. The only thing I dislike about this app is that my screen has to stay on to use this app or else I have severe issues of the sound cutting in and out, so I just press home and then my power button twice to get to the lockscreen so that i don't have any apps starting up unwanted. Personally I think it's well worth the $3.99, but then again, I've started supporting all the devs of the apps I really like. It was stated on facebook, by him, that he offers an extended refund period for those people unhappy with his app. How much longer? No idea. But it is guaranteed that you can try this app for 24 hours and if you don't like it you can always get a refund from the market.
I would like to find a way to send incoming "Private number" calls to voicemail, without downloading an app (with the security risks involved with this, as all apps I found want to read phone #, all of my contacts, and have access to the internet).
In Googling I found that on other, older, phones you could create a contact with "Private number" in the mobile phone field and select the "All calls to voicemail". I tried this on my Galaxy Nexus running 4.0.4 and it doesn't seem to be working.
Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?
Or does anybody know an app that is not a security risk (i.e. does not request access to the internet and/or my phone and/or my contacts)?
BTW, these are the permissions that one of these Apps (this one called Calls Blacklist) is requesting:
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
RECEIVE SMS
READ SMS OR MMS
EDIT SMS OR MMS
NETWORK COMMUNICATION
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
READ PHONE STATE AND IDENTITY
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
MODIFY/DELETE USB STORAGE CONTENTS MODIFY/DELETE SD CARD CONTENTS
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
CHANGE WI-FI STATE
PREVENT TABLET FROM SLEEPING PREVENT PHONE FROM SLEEPING
MODIFY GLOBAL SYSTEM SETTINGS
CHANGE/INTERCEPT NETWORK SETTINGS AND TRAFFIC
DISPLAY SYSTEM-LEVEL ALERTS
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
That would be like me saying to you; "I'm sorry sir, you're not appropriately dressed for this restaurant." over the phone.
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
Security risks? The app kinda needs that information. You're better off not installing any apps as any of them could steal your valuable phone number.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco
Liskrig said:
You can't have an app send private calls to voicemail, but not be granted permission to see who is calling.
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Duh, of course, it's not listed above as one of the unneeded permissions above.
But none of these are even remotely needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
SEND SMS MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
Liskrig said:
Read reviews, not all of those apps are bad (some are though), and most of them will do exactly what you are looking to accomplish.
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How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
Besides the fact that yet another app means yet another thing that can go wrong (battery drain, system instability, etc.)
Back to the original question: "Is there another built-in procedure that works to accomplish this?"
hillrider said:
Duh, of course!
But none of these are needed to do the job:
INTERCEPT OUTGOING CALLS
FULL INTERNET ACCESS
READ CONTACT DATA
WRITE CONTACT DATA
RETRIEVE RUNNING APPS
How exactly could a reviewer know that the app author isn't selling all of my contacts to some spammer? The tenet of good security is to not leave the door open unecessarily.
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Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then. You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you. Ever thought of who could be hacking your Wi-fi? They could steal and intercept ANYTHING sent through your home internet.
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theking_13 said:
Get one that doesn't ask for those permissions then.
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None found, hence this thread.
A response to the OP, without flaming and personal attacks would be greatly appreciated.
theking_13 said:
... You're so paranoid that maybe a smartphone just isn't for you...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP+Franco
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+1
If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about) and switch to a Google Voice number, you can set it through the website settings that anonymous callers are directly routed to voicemail.
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If you're willing to install Google Voice (and really, it doesn't matter what permissions it asks for, you're running Google's OS which has access to EVERYTHING, so there's not much to think about)
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!
copkay said:
and switch to a Google Voice number
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This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.[/QUOTE]
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Yeah, the replies haven't been particularly helpful so far. It's not "paranoid" to at least question the security of these apps, although the most popular ones are most likely fine.
You have a point with the non-Voice number. There's also the "no-turning-back" solution of porting your existing number to Google Voice for $20, which would then fix the problem, but it's not particularly ideal unless you're 100% sold on GV.
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Agree about this--somehow I got painted as someone who trusts nobody, but of course while I wouldn't give my house keys to anyone, friends and cleaning service all have them.I do run many apps from trusted providers!This is the issue: "Private number" callers will still call my regular, non Google Voice number, so it doesn't really do the trick.
So it seems that Google removed a feature that was available in previous versions of Android? Seems strange...
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Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
I actually have 2 Google Voice numbers and my normal Verizon one (3 total). One for Personal, one for my side Website business, and my normal job.
I don't restrict any callers but there are options in there for unknowns and the likes. At least you can setup CALL SCREENING, where it asks for the persons name. So I can answer ANY call, it will say, "Call from... Donut Marketing" and it gives me 2 options, 1 to take the call... and 2 to send to VM.
If you press 2, it then says, "Ok I've sent the caller to VM. Press STAR at any time to join the call". So if the VM is someone I WANT to speak with, I just pop in and say Hi. Most Marketers will shy away from leaving their name... no name, no call. They typically hang up immediately. Still prevents me from having to talk to them and try to get off the phone.
Even when they do leave me a Google Voice Mail, it gets translated to text and emailed to me so I can read it seconds after they've left it. Then just delete like a normal email.
Super easy.
You can probably also call up your carrier and say you are getting lots of Marketing calls from Unknown numbers and want them blocked. They'll probably want to charge you a fee... but maybe not.
player911 said:
Port your actual phone number to Google Voice and ask for a new one from the carrier. Thats what I did. I setup a contact in my phone with my old number and have it setup to send the caller ID as my old number. So any call to that number all display as "Personal Call". The carrier number is my "Work Number".
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how did you get verizon to port your number without killing your contract? i just called and they said its not possible.
Root call blocker does this.