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[Q] HELP - backed up sense rom will not boot

Ok so i got my brand new replacement evo yesterday and of course the first thing I did was root it and did a nandroid backup! And then restored my previous rom I had backed up well I needed to back up my sprint vm through titanium on the sense rom and so today I went in to restore it after wiping data/cache/davlik and after restoring the sense rom will not go past the boot screen! Is there something I can do to get this back and going past the boot screen? HELP!

It's not safe to restore nandroid backup from a previous phone, at least you made a backup first, restore it, then DELETE all the nandroid from your previous phone. Start over, but keep the titanium backups, they safe

NewZJ said:
It's not safe to restore nandroid backup from a previous phone, at least you made a backup first, restore it, then DELETE all the backups from your previous phone. Start over, but keep the titanium backups, they safe
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agreed agreed agreeeeed. restore the backup u made with the new phone, then start over.

Ok now im confused...because I think one of you misunderstood me. Ok I now get I shouldnt restore a nandroid backup from a previous phone. But ok so if I delete all my backups (except for the sprint sense rom) will that rom reboot then? So i will be able to redo the process?

yes, if you have a backup of the stock rom from your NEW phone, you can restore that one, all other backups you had saved from your previous phone aren't going to work. So you can delete them, your titanium backups of your apps will still work, just your rom backups wont, so yes, u will be able to restore the stock rom backup that you made on the new phone, hope that made sense... lol

If I understand right, you already restored the backup from your previous phone. This could cause issues with the system not restoring the previous backup. Go back and wipe data, cache and dalvik then try restoring the backup from your current phone.
If you still can't restore, try flashing the stock rooted rom.
Once you get it working, I'd check to see if 4G works. If you don't live in a 4G coverage area, run the RSA key checker app and make sure you didn't bork your wimax.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

[Q] 2 Q's, backup, then app restore

2 Questions as I am going to start flashing some different ROM's.
1) Which should I use if I have a setup I like and may want to revert back to:
Nandroid backup or Titanium backup? Or do they do different things?
2) Once I flash the ROM and need to put it back to a condition with all the apps and settings as I would like, is there any easier process than using Appbrain to restore previously installed apps? But what about settings within various apps? Do people just go through and manually change everything each time?
Thanks in advance.

use a recovery like cwm. a nandroid backup is done by clockwork mod. it basically takes a picture of all files just as they are on your phone. minus your sd card. it is used as a restore if you run into problems with new stuff. titanium backup is used to save apps and data and settings. I would highly suggest you don't restore system data. also slot of people end up running into problems restoring app data using titanium backup. so I only restore apps by themselves. any more questions just ask. also if any info I give is wrong let me know. and as always if I have helped you give a thanks
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forgot some things. whenever you try out a new rom always do a cwm backup. before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe. calkulin has a. zip to do all this for you as well.

patrao_n said:
use a recovery like cwm. a nandroid backup is done by clockwork mod. it basically takes a picture of all files just as they are on your phone. minus your sd card. it is used as a restore if you run into problems with new stuff. titanium backup is used to save apps and data and settings. I would highly suggest you don't restore system data. also slot of people end up running into problems restoring app data using titanium backup. so I only restore apps by themselves. any more questions just ask. also if any info I give is wrong let me know. and as always if I have helped you give a thanks
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forgot some things. whenever you try out a new rom always do a cwm backup. before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe. calkulin has a. zip to do all this for you as well.
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Thanks for responding. So Titanium does everything a nandroid backup does plus the data and settings?
When people flash new ROM's (after wiping cache, etc.)do they use appbrain to restore all apps? or do people use Titanium to restore apps? I assume not a Nandroid backup as that will revert them back to the previous ROM. I assume they then still have to go through and adjust all the settings to their liking (browser default, lockscreen, background, etc.) seems like it would take about an hour just to get all settings back as you like it after each ROM flash. Is this what most people do or is there an easier way.
Thanks again.

patrao_n said:
use a recovery like cwm. a nandroid backup is done by clockwork mod. it basically takes a picture of all files just as they are on your phone. minus your sd card. it is used as a restore if you run into problems with new stuff. titanium backup is used to save apps and data and settings. I would highly suggest you don't restore system data. also slot of people end up running into problems restoring app data using titanium backup. so I only restore apps by themselves. any more questions just ask. also if any info I give is wrong let me know. and as always if I have helped you give a thanks
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forgot some things. whenever you try out a new rom always do a cwm backup. before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe. calkulin has a. zip to do all this for you as well.
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noahas said:
Thanks for responding. So Titanium does everything a nandroid backup does plus the data and settings?
When people flash new ROM's (after wiping cache, etc.)do they use appbrain to restore all apps? or do people use Titanium to restore apps? I assume not a Nandroid backup as that will revert them back to the previous ROM. I assume they then still have to go through and adjust all the settings to their liking (browser default, lockscreen, background, etc.) seems like it would take about an hour just to get all settings back as you like it after each ROM flash. Is this what most people do or is there an easier way.
Thanks again.
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Decent advice by patrao_n, but there are a couple of slight corrections.
With Titanium Backup, you can restore apps + data without issues in most cases, you just want to avoid restoring System Apps + data. Also, if you don't absolutely need the data, you will minimize the issues that some have - as noted by patrao_n - if you restore only apps.
As far as flashing a ROM, I would never advise a "one size fits all" solution (i.e before flashing a rom make sure to wipe everything like dalvik cache. cache. and also do the factory data wipe...) Instead, follow the instructions of the OP (original post) in the thread for the ROM you are flashing. The process can be quite different from ROM to ROM. Also there are three things that are your best friend before flashing, your two eyes and the search bar. Read and search thoroughly and you will find at least 50% and probably 90% of your answers on your own.
As far as your next questions:
Titanium restores app, data and some settings period. It is really nothing like a nandroid. It is meant to work in conjunction with a nandroid, but they are not the same. The nandroid is just like a restore point on a PC or a snapshot on Mac. The nandroid will take you back to the exact setup you had when you made it. Titanium will only restore your apps and some limited settings/data. External microSD and things like baseband (modem/radio) are not backed up/changed with a nandroid. You always want to have a nandroid (backup) of your preferred setup and I strongly advise that you keep a copy of that nandroid on your desktop (PC/Mac/Lin) as well. This way you are covered if something goes wrong.
AppBrain doesn't restore apps. It will tell you what you had installed and let you re-download them again one by one the same as the Market, but nothing other than a list is stored with AppBrain. It is basically just an alternative market.
In terms of restoring, there are any number of ways you can do this. Most third party launchers and many apps allow you to backup settings/setup to the sd. Using Titanium Backup Premium you can be setup in as little as 10 minutes depending on how many apps you have and how much you tweak your launcher. Also, whether or not you had to do a full wipe when changing ROMs or just cache and dalvik. Generally going from one version to the next of the same ROM, you are not doing a full wipe. Coming from one ROM to a different ROM you are doing a full wipe. Again check the OP of you particular ROM(s).
Personally, I use GO Launcher which allows me to restore my setup quickly and easily. Also I use the modified Format_All zip whenever possible so that all my data remains, meaning I don't really have to setup anything, just reboot and go. This doesn't always go as planned, but that's why you have a nandroid. More often than not it works for me. Typically I can change ROMs in less than 5 minutes using the modified Format_All.
Again, you are going to get much, much better advice if you read the OP and then ask questions in the ROM thread of your choice.
The one thing I can say, is take the time to learn. Don't take shortcuts before you know what you are doing or I can pretty much guarantee they won't end up being shortcuts.

Nandroid Backup Question

So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.

It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
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TeamERA said:
It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
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This is what I assumed, thank you for the confirmation!

Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?

RubenRybnik said:
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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1) It's always best NOT to restore system data when flashing a new rom. All your system data is specific to the rom you are flashing, so you don't want anything to conflict with the new data you are using now. Will cause a lot of problems in the long run.
2) TB is the best way to restore apps and apps+data that I know of. MyBackUp Pro is another good one, but TB works best for me. I'm sure there are others in the market also.
And I moved this to the Q&A section.

Well, this is what I thought too in fact I rooted my phone, installed CWM and the next step I performed was a nandroid backup thinking I could get my stock setup back if I ever wanted it. All was good. Then I flashed for a while and found a setup I liked and before proceeding I did another nandroid. THEN a while later I got to a point were I found myself, for time purposes wanting to fall back to my second backup so I thought: "hey, lets try restoring from this nandroid file I so maticulously spent time creating"!
That's when, for me at least, this whole nandroid Backup/Restore exercise falls on its face. Because when I tried to restore the backup I made it gave me a MD5 error..and I know there's a workaround that you can use by modifying the file I think that's basically what your doing? I didn't try it, I figured if the file needed to be modified before it could be restored what was the point anyway.? I just used my plan B which was Titanium Backup.
Anyway I keep my eyes open for an answer to this mystery, I think it has to do with the different CWM versions from one ROM to the next? Still not sure though?
Oh and hopefully this post wont just get rudely deleted like my first post on the same subject did? I made the same mistake you have by posting in the "General" area instead of the Q&A section!

the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?

RubenRybnik said:
So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.
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I have done many restores and everything comes back just like it was before.
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RubenRybnik said:
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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I only use Titanium backup to backup and restore specific apps on my phone. I use CWM for the system.

patrao_n said:
the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?
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nope. I followed step by step...pretty hard to mess it up with qbking77 video's? Is there any other possible reason, you can think of?..and really, how many people test out thier restores? I'm just wondering?

Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.

Magicspell said:
Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.
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Good point ... Thanks to everyone for the replies, got a much better understanding on the backup/restore process in both cwm and titanium now ) Thanks!
One more question about the MD5 ... So you can not change the name of the backup of CWM? I didn't think name change would effect how MD5 is generated.

RubenRybnik said:
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.

s9amme said:
You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.
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So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?

RubenRybnik said:
So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?
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Yes on apps and data.

Restore data with titanium across roms

Hello all,
I am running ordroid at the moment, but am willing to try venom. What options can I choice in titanium backup? Can I even restore system apps with data, or will it mess up the rom?
Another short question, is the flash boot.img included in a nandroid backup?

Guids said:
Hello all,
I am running ordroid at the moment, but am willing to try venom. What options can I choice in titanium backup? Can I even restore system apps with data, or will it mess up the rom?
Another short question, is the flash boot.img included in a nandroid backup?
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Yea you can restore app+data
Flash the boot.img then restore normally

walidhazem said:
Yea you can restore app+data
Flash the boot.img then restore normally
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Thanks for answering. And what about system apps?

System data is unique to each ROM. If you moving to a new ROM, I wouldn't risk it. You'll get a boot loop on start-up.
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System apps and data are unique to each different ROM. If you're moving to a new ROM, I wouldn't risk it. You might get a boot loop on start-up.

Stuck on Google logo after a Nandroid backup, nothing works (FIXED, TWRP+EFS issue)

I was doing normal stuff when I noticed that for some reason my google account had dissapeared from the device. It is not the first time that happens not only in my N5X, but also on an old S2 so since I'm paranoid instead of just putting it again, though of some malware and decided to restore a nandroid backup I did few days ago after reflashing august v6.0.1.
I was using @jollaman999 's multirom and it's recovery, and the recovery gave some strange errors (got an screenshot but on the device..), after reboot I was stuck on Google logo, after that, the bootanimation dots appear but they dont move, and the device resets.
I tested entering bootloader then recovery, and the original TWRP 3.0.2-1 from the backup had recovered and was working, so I decided to restore the very same backup from there. Checked md5s and all good (only a warning about a ' ' or something but all the md5s were good, it asked me to disable the md5 checking option). Restored everything without a single problem, wiped caches and rebooted.. in the very same situation.
I decided to just sideload the last full OTA from August security patches, and I sideloaded it normally. After sideload, not only the problem persisted, but also the original image that appears when turning on the phone (the warning about unlocked bootloader, which usually is orange) was red and talked about corrupted phone. I just flashed TWRP with fastboot and flashed ElementalX kernel and the turn-on screen turned to be orange ok (wtf?), but nothing got fixed and I was in the very same situation.
I decided to do a complete wipe after saving the data on TWRP, including formatting system, and then sideloaded the full OTA again, again without errors, but I appear in the same Bootanimation start-bootlop status than before.
So I have access to aboot (fastboot) and can flash TWRP and use it, but something is wrong and I am kinda lost, never been on this situation. What would you do guys? The OTA supposedly flashed Bootloader, Radio, Boot, System and Vendor and checked that everything flashed OK, yet the boot animation doesn't even start moving...
The Nandroid restore image doesn't have MultiRom.
Thanks for the help guys.
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Edit: fixed, see lower post for details.

**** the stocks
Download any rom-gapps on a USB+otg enter in to recovery wipe everything format again data then install the USB flash the ROM and will be open I suppose!
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If it opens something u doing wrong with side loads
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I'm stuck with the same issue. I suspect the power button, seems like a lot of users have problems with that.
I opened my phone and took a look, but the button seems fine..

Okay, issue fixed.
The problem was the EFS partition. When I restored the backup, it included entire backup (EFS) and for some reason EFS backup on that nandroid does not work, and kills my phone..
I tested restoring everything but EFS from that backup, and then EFS from an old copy... and SUCCESS.
I didn't think EFS could literally kill the phone, but apparently it does.
Also TWRP has some nice bugs, if you restore an entire nandroid backup, it says OK including EFS (but after reboot its stuck). If you restore only EFS, it FAILS (cause /efs2 is not found or something like that.)
@Dees_Troy this happened with both TWRP 3.0.2-0 and 3.0.2-1, I had a nandroid backup where restoring everything (including EFS) gave a success but killed the phone, while trying to restore only EFS gave something like (/efs2 not found) and made the phone not boot. In a rage impulse I deleted that backup -.-, I shouldn't probably if you needed some data, but I was so damn nervous, sorry.
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**** the stocks
Download any rom-gapps on a USB+otg enter in to recovery wipe everything format again data then install the USB flash the ROM and will be open I suppose!
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If it opens something u doing wrong with side loads
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Not needed, apparently it was all EFS problem, not any other partition, so either stock or custom roms were ****ed and nothing did boot. Thanks a lot for the help tho!! :good::good::good::good:

septix said:
I'm stuck with the same issue. I suspect the power button, seems like a lot of users have problems with that.
I opened my phone and took a look, but the button seems fine..
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If it was the problem button, you couldn't be on aboot (fastboot) or recovery and do stuff .
In my case it was all TWRP+EFS problem.

RusherDude said:
If it was the problem button, you couldn't be on aboot (fastboot) or recovery and do stuff .
In my case it was all TWRP+EFS problem.
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I thought that as well.
Well, to bad I managed to delete my backup.

septix said:
I thought that as well.
Well, to bad I managed to delete my backup.
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If you aren't in my case (didn't try to restore also EFS.. dunno why but last time), your problem isn't probably EFS.
Anyway, don't you have an old backup of EFS? It's the first thing I do when getting a phone, boot TWRP, backup EFS, then backup the rest and save those like gold.

RusherDude said:
If you aren't in my case (didn't try to restore also EFS.. dunno why but last time), your problem isn't probably EFS.
Anyway, don't you have an old backup of EFS? It's the first thing I do when getting a phone, boot TWRP, backup EFS, then backup the rest and save those like gold.
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I did a backup, but I deleted it by mistake. And I'm afraid I tried to flash the EFS backup at some point.
I was tired and stressed at the moment. Guess I'm buying a new phone

septix said:
I did a backup, but I deleted it by mistake. And I'm afraid I tried to flash the EFS backup at some point.
I was tired and stressed at the moment. Guess I'm buying a new phone
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Send it to Google for repairs lol.. (it's a Nexus, a lot of people have sent it unlocked and everything and Google covers it, it's a dev device after all).
Also, thereis a thread from bitdomo in this subforum to flash the N5X with stock LG software, that fixes bootloader problems but not sure EFS, try asking him if he could solve your problem?

I have a backup of my EFS that I made with TWRP, but my bootloader is now locked and I've flashed the LG TOT. I've been trying to fix this phone for days. It's stuck bootlooping at the Google logo/4 colored dots animation.
Is there any way for me to restore my EFS partition? Or am I screwed?

How dies TWRP named an EFS Backup?
I will search for it on my hdd. Maybe I had made one.

simondo22 said:
How dies TWRP named an EFS Backup?
I will search for it on my hdd. Maybe I had made one.
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It names it after the day and time you did the backup, but the files are named efs1.emmc.win/.md5 (at least on my mac)

Who knows, this guide is suitable for Nexus 5x?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/announcement-twrp-3-0-2-1-fatal-bug-t3453119