I just ran across this USB Card Reader/Hub for the Samsung Tab. The device has three USB ports and a card reader. It even has a plug for a 5V power supply.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-GAL...=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item2316d2ac0e
Has anyone tried this thing? Does it perform as advertised? If it does, it may be the perfect accessory, especially when teamed with a power supply. On that subject, I wonder where one might find a compatible power supply that would provide the right amperage so it would work with the Tab.
Bob
^I would like to know also. If it works like it says, that would be the best thing ever!
I asked the company posting the device on eBay if they offered a power supply that would supply 2 amps. They said no.
Here is a question for some of the smart guys on this forum. Could the Tab be powered by a male to male USB cable plugged into the standard Samsung 110 V power plug and then in to the hub? The next question is if everything could be powered using a USB car adaptor that puts out 2 A.
Bob
Bump! Does anyone have experience with this device. If so, please post. Also, if anyone can answer the questions about the the power supply or USB charging from a car outlet, that information would be greatly appreciated.
Bob
I think you are misunderstanding the use of the power supply. I'm pretty sure the power supply doesn't charge the tab. It only powers the USB appliances (mainly for HDDs). An active USB-hub if you wish.
Regards
Achim
general1977 said:
I think you are misunderstanding the use of the power supply. I'm pretty sure the power supply doesn't charge the tab. It only powers the USB appliances (mainly for HDDs). An active USB-hub if you wish.
Regards
Achim
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I am sure you are right. I wonder if the the Tab could be charged if a male to male USB cable was plugged into one of the USB ports and then to the stock Samsung plug?
I have that actually. I just have used it for an sd card though. Anyone want me to experiment something with it?
iknighty said:
I have that actually. I just have used it for an sd card though. Anyone want me to experiment something with it?
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Great, you are just the guy I have been looking for. If you can come up with a male to male USB cable, plug one end into the device and the other into your Samsung charger puck. I am curious if the Tab will charge using this method.
Bob
dsafety said:
I am sure you are right. I wonder if the the Tab could be charged if a male to male USB cable was plugged into one of the USB ports and then to the stock Samsung plug?
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Well, that depends on the hub. How it is designed. It may block current from flowing into the USB ports.
I have to check mine when I get home...
Mind you, USB current is limited to 0.5A and that isn't enough to charge the Tab and use it at the same time.
But, let me see if I understand what you're trying to do: Connect the 110V adapter to one of the USB ports. Power/charge the Tab through a second port.
As to your earlier question,about a vehicle equipped USB port... Same answer. It depends on how the hub is designed. Since I have Sync in my Ford I have a USB port and I can check that as well. I know the Tab works connected to it... just not a USB hub.
how's the test
so... any result from your test? can it charge the tab?
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so... any result from your test? can it charge the tab?
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I can't find my male/male USB cable. (I live in Alabama, and that sort of thing is against the law. )
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Hello,
can somebody make this work on the Desire?
Would be awesome
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
I can probably do it, just need a cable to test with, maybe over the weekend.
does this work so the desire can read usb flash drives?
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does this work so the desire can read usb flash drives?
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Did you watch the vid?
deovferreira said:
I can probably do it, just need a cable to test with, maybe over the weekend.
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You are awesome.
yeah, it would be possible to attach any USB device (like on your pc) to the Phone (USB Flash Drive, Keyboard, Mouse, ......... )
cables
I could only find cables in china has anyone seen any for sale in the uk ?
you can make the micro USB to USB 'A' cable with a few bits and a soldering iron or some electrical tape. They seem to be scarce over here so thats what i plan on doing.
i have a "female - female" USB Cable here. if i plug this in my normal micro USB-Cable will this work?
Desire -> Micro-USB-Cable -> Female - Female-USB-Cable -> USB-Keyboard
I ordered from the ebay guy he adivised on his site
@kingchris
Nah this wont work. The reason he uses the powered hub and the special power cable is because the phone itself doesnt give out 5v like a normal USB port so devices are having to steal it from elsewhere.
So with your keyboard setup, the data lines will be connected but it will have no power.
so a normal Micro-USB cable to a USB-HUB and then to the keyboard?
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so a normal Micro-USB cable to a USB-HUB and then to the keyboard?
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Dont know if you even need the hub. Its the special dual ended power cable you need. Just need some way to pump 5v down towards the keyboard. *i think*
http://www.span.com/product_info.php?products_id=22810
Here a link to a company selling the power cable. Based in Surrey.
i think it will work if you don't plugin as much devices as the guy in the video.
you can use one of these to convert your existing Charging Cable to a Female Port
Amazon.de
or
Amazon.co.uk
Edit: kay, not sure if the gender changer is all you need
The most Micro USB to USB converters are not work if you want to use it for OTG converter, because the 4. pin of the micro usb plug is not connected!
The most ebay and computer shop's converters like this!
If you want to use it for working OTG adapter you have to connect the micro usb connector 4. pin to GND (5. pin).
Like this:
I made this mod on my adapter and it works!
First you have to open up the outter cover and carve the plastic around the micro usb pins. You can use multimeter to check the pinout.
After that solder the 4. pin to 5. pin with a piece of wire.
And finally glue back the outter cover.
Video:
So if you have not working adapter you can mod it, if you have suffice experience with electronic and proper tools.
Only do with your own risk!
I have this Usb converter!
With your mod works perfectly!!
just tried it it works perf, thank you!
Weird I got one off eBay from Hong Kong and it works without Modding. Can open files off a USB stick. Got it for £1
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Anyone knows how the Galaxy determines to be in home or car dock?
ALexander
hi thanks for great find just built one from a female usb cable vey nice.
WOrked for me too...thanks
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Weird I got one off eBay from Hong Kong and it works without Modding. Can open files off a USB stick. Got it for £1
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Share the link please
I buy a pair in Dealextreme.com
SKU 50774 o search OTG
It may have a resistor between pin 4 and 5, kind of like a jig,
I remember there was a fun with resistors thread for the sgs1.
I may attack tge free dock I,got from optus.
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It may have a resistor between pin 4 and 5, kind of like a jig,
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OTG has no resistor, its direct connect to GND.
i bought this one from ebay
(cant post links )
item number 260782021641
and it works with usb drives and i used a mouse in it too
OTG Cable USB (B) to Micro USB (A) Powered with AAA batteries ?
As one knows, Samsung has promised a MHL Cable
You noticed it is not only a cable but a box out of which you may plug in an extra power supply.
The obvious reason is if the passive monitor does not furnish 5V, the phone will rapidly be out of power.
Now you know that to obtain video rather than anything less, Pin 4 (sense) and 5 (Ground) of micro USB (male A) must be connected with a 365K resistance.
I suppose the dock Samsung is selling for I9100 (yes, I have it) is grounded at 1000K as it provides audio with remote, and yes, the dock provides power supply via extra micro USB as well.
I come to my point: If I want to access any USB data On the Go, I need a cable OTG with 2 ports: USB 2.0/3.0 (female, B sided) to a micro USB (male, A sided, grounded but with no resistance = 0K). Many of them exist on the market out there.
But it is quite impossible to use because of lack of power supply in the passive device (let’s say a handy 1T HDD usually powered via Host connexion !
Would it be possible to insert some sort of receptacle for AAA battery in the middle of such a cable to provide for power while you are for a long time out of access to an electric plug ? Does such a cable exist somewhere to buy ? What would be the sheme to mount this ? HELP !
Is it possible to add USB charging cable to USB-host cable? I want to use mouse\keyboard\flash and charge device in the same time.
I also interested how to add power to USB-host cable for devices "High-power device connected".
OTG and Power
thats excactly my question:
is it possible to use otg cable with a trackball or mouse and at same time charge the S2?
give power to usb mouse and charge S2 over a charger!?
Is it possible to use a game controller over usb otg? Would be pretty nice.
Wanna have a S2Play ;-)
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Is it possible to add USB charging cable to USB-host cable? I want to use mouse\keyboard\flash and charge device in the same time.
I also interested how to add power to USB-host cable for devices "High-power device connected".
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it is not possible. usb host can be used one way not two ways.
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i do have same problem..is there any suggestions to make sgs2 can read the high-power USB flashdisk via otg??
An USB hub with external power maybe ? I didn't tried this kind of setup, but it should work. I have a hub, but I don't have a OTG cable yet.
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An USB hub with external power maybe ? I didn't tried this kind of setup, but it should work. I have a hub, but I don't have a OTG cable yet.
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I've been try this, but still doesn't work for me..I'm also used electrical multi-tester, and the usb flash already has 5V voltage but in my sgs2 still nothing happen (my usb flashdisk doesn't mounted to sgs2)..
Is there any driver/apps do I need to install first before using OTG?? or, is there two kind of sgs2, the one which support OTG and the other one not??
please someone help me...One point I choose this SGS2 is the OTG feature..
PS: sorry for my english
I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM
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I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM
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you will not be able to plug in a USB peripheral (mouse, keyboard) directly into the phone. it will not work.
you can, however, purchase a +5V powered USB hub (that plugs into the wall), and use that to plug into the phone and plug your KB/mouse into the hub, and it should work. you can find such hubs at www.dealextreme.com
to further answer your question, USB-___USB converters will work as long as the converters have all four lines hooked up. many converters are 'power-only' where only the power/ground lines are connected and the other two lines (data) are not.
So if i buy an ordinary pc hub that connects to power and the plug usb-to-microusb, it will work?
Well let it alone, ill buy a Bluetooth keyboard, will spare time and cables and converters ahahha
The Micro USB plug must be OTG (USB ON THE GO) or your phone won't recognize the peripheral. Also the advice given was correct, the phone USB port can't provide power to a peripheral device and so you must use a powered hub in between the phone and the peripheral device.
A USB OTG has pin 5 and pin 4 tied together in the Micro USB connector end to tell the phone to invoke OTG mode.
Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.
elementaldragon said:
Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.
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already been stated twice.
While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
It's a first time I see such cable...All I read was people saying it's impossible in the first place. Well, hopefully in 2 weeks I'll be able answer your question
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While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Looks like it's possible on some devices, but not with Galaxy and Nexus family... But it would be great if you can confirm that, so let me know if you can try it. Thanks.
Finally got the cable.
The result - nope, doesn't charge
Maybe the "Allshare hub" could do what your asking for?
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Sonic, any luck with your friends phone? Really looking foward to your results :fingers-crossed:
Do you have part #s for the variable resistors in your samsung post or at least where you got them from? I would be willing to try some things out if I could find the right pieces. What I really want to get my hands on is the MHL adapter that was shown off with that spider laptop at IFA a couple weeks ago..
SUCCESS!!! I can confirm that this USB OTG cable (http://ebayitem.com/190710044655) DOES CHARGE MY GALAXY S3! I plugged in USB cardreader with SD card into the phone through this cable (it lit up and card is fully readable), then plugged USB cable end into PC and phone showed a charging icon! Moreover, after waiting for 5 min. with screen off (cardreader still glowing blue and working) battery has gone up from %72 to %75 (and while I was writing this, to 78%), so it is indeed charging! Yay! It probably won't get up in the car, where just phone alone is "not discharging" at best from the car adapter, but at least it should allow me to listen to music with quality DAC and use navigation without (or with minimal) discharging.
I have not tested it with USB DAC that I intend to use for my car (Behringer UCA222), because I have to go out and buy it. Hopefully it works. Anyway, this cable definitely works with simultaneously charging my north-american Samsung Galaxy S3 (from Bell Canada) while powering USB cardreader!
Somebody else has mentioned that another cable (http://ebayitem.com/120980364117) also worked in his Galaxy S2.
I bought Behringer UCA222 USB DAC and tested it in my car with the USB OTG cable with power that I mentioned. It works great! And the phone is indicating a charge. Sometimes when first playing music after plugging the device it sounds like fast forward for a few seconds (I guess clock rate mismatch or something similar), but after the presumably clock is locked it plays perfectly fine.
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SUCCESS!!! ...
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That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Jeremy.Stewart85 said:
That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
I found that this configuration works for charging while in USB HOST mode:
S3 -> standard otg cable -> Powered USB2.0 HUB -> devices (keyboard, usb dac, usb hdd...)
The only catch is that the hub must be powered before you plug in the phone or the phone will try to power the hub and will never enter charging mode. I'm using this setup in my car and it works perfectly. As long as I start the car before plugging the phone, we are good to go.
I only confirmed this works with AOKP JB builds. No idea about other roms/kernels. Hopefully this helps someone.
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The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
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I got mine in the mail today (ordered 10/16) and tried it out as soon as I could. I can confirm it charges and allows for OTG at the same time. This is the auction I bought from: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251127542280&ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:3160
Hello y'all. I'd like to ask your attention to this thread, especially but not limited to sonicboom and others, I really could use some help.
Unfortunately, I just wasted over $30 on a Valarm IoT OTG Y cable. It does not work at all as a host cable for any USB device on the G4. I was hoping to use the Valarm cable to connect a USB DAC and charge the phone at the same time. The cable will let me charge the phone but whatever I connected to the USB female port is not recognized. If anyone finds a USB host cable that allows charging, please post!
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Unfortunately, I just wasted over $30 on a Valarm IoT OTG Y cable. It does not work at all as a host cable for any USB device on the G4. I was hoping to use the Valarm cable to connect a USB DAC and charge the phone at the same time. The cable will let me charge the phone but whatever I connected to the USB female port is not recognized. If anyone finds a USB host cable that allows charging, please post!
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From what i understand otg goes one way or the other it cant act as a host and carge at the same time. It flips the charging circut to flow out instead of in. Ive been through this on a few phones tried even straight wiring a powerline to the otg itll power the usb device but not charge the phone.
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From what i understand otg goes one way or the other it cant act as a host and carge at the same time. It flips the charging circut to flow out instead of in. Ive been through this on a few phones tried even straight wiring a powerline to the otg itll power the usb device but not charge the phone.
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The manufacturer of that cable clearly states that it'll charge a samsung phone, not confirmed working on a G4 though. Here is the link, http://shop.valarm.net/products/micro-usb-host-otg-y-cable-with-micro-usb-power-for-samsung
I wish there was a way to enable charging using OTG.
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The manufacturer of that cable clearly states that it'll charge a samsung phone, not confirmed working on a G4 though. Here is the link, http://shop.valarm.net/products/micro-usb-host-otg-y-cable-with-micro-usb-power-for-samsung
I wish there was a way to enable charging using OTG.
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Yea me to i have a few devices that hook to my car that drain my tablet and phone batts and it kills me the only other way ive got it to work is hard wire a charger to the phone. But of coarse this is a old throw away gs3 that im talkin bout not my g4. I havnt tried on my g4 yet but its all phone specs has to have dual charging circuts cause they can only flow one at a time. Now some new devices i know. Do support otg with charging capabilities.