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[Q] Desire HD USB OTG Host cable

Hi,
I've been wanting to hook up my desire hd to usb hosting and have not been able to find a cable for it.
I was wondering would it be ok if i connected a micro usb (male) to usb b (printer version) (female) adapter
to a,
standard printer cable with usb female at the end?
This would result in one end being a micro usb male and the other end a female usb
I look forward to your answers
Thanks alot for reading

That probably wont work.
I in fact saw an article yesterday, but can't recall the link. (Will look now).
IIRC, you need to modify the USB cable somewhat to get the DHD's USB port to detect an OTG connection.
Edit:
Here we go: http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/

I think if the software supports usb host mode, with a 'micro usb type a' to 'usb type b' cable you can connect to a usb device. That is if the DHD is equiped with 'micro usb type ab' receptacle.

oh wow, ok thanks ever so much!!,
however, i just need to confirm what three cables you need so i can go out and buy them, i need:
Car charging cable (which one is this?)
Micro-usb cable (is this with the microusb male on one end and a standard usb male on the other end?)
USB extender cable (is this with one usb male and usb female on the other end?)
thanks

leppie said:
That probably wont work.
I in fact saw an article yesterday, but can't recall the link. (Will look now).
IIRC, you need to modify the USB cable somewhat to get the DHD's USB port to detect an OTG connection.
Edit:
Here we go: http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/
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oh wow, ok thanks ever so much!!,
however, i just need to confirm what three cables you need so i can go out and buy them, i need:
Car charging cable (which one is this?)
Micro-usb cable (is this with the microusb male on one end and a standard usb male on the other end?)
USB extender cable (is this with one usb male and usb female on the other end?)
thanks

I have no idea really, but if you are successful, let us know

I'm just having trouble understanding what cables are needed.
On the website you gave me, it says i need:
a car charging cable, a micro USB cable and a USB extender cable.
Is this effectively two micro usb cables and a USB extender cable?
or does one HAVE to come from a car charging kit?
please help!!
thanks

Found some more info @ http://www.tombom.co.uk/blog/?p=124

maybe this will work. www dealextreme com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774

destructor542 said:
maybe this will work. www dealextreme com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774
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Nice find! I did see the mini one only
Gonna order and try it out. No great financial loss if it does not work.
Obviously we will need a USB Host module for the kernel if not already present. Will check tonite.

i've finally made my host cable!!!
i now need micro-usb dongle host module. Is this where you have to get hold of a car charger and get the end of it and unsolder bits?

The USB Host module is software. It is loaded by the Linux kernel.

ok well i need to get that too.
Also, whats the bit with the car charging cable? what that for?

I'd be really interested in this as well. Would be awesome if i could just connect a usb drive or my camera to my phone to copy data.
So does anyone know if a host driver is available for the desire hd.
I really have no idea how it would work, but it should, as loads of tablets are able to use 3G-Sticks to connect.

Today I recieve my USB Host adapter cable for the DHD.
When I plug it into the DHD and connect a USB Hub the car panle ("Auto Bedienfeld") starts.
Connecting a USB Keyboard to the USB Hub doesn't show any impact. But this is what I have expected. Next I try to integrate the patch from sonic74 to a kernel for the DHD.
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
At the moment I use Android Revolution HD 2.0.9

Any progress?
I really like the USB host future on my Desire HD,
I want to connect my USB Drive to my DHD if this is possible? So i have 16GB More storage if needed ;D
I've ordered the converter thing from dealextreme, someone that could make a flashable zip to enable usb host functions?

Was also quite interested on this.
My wish is to connect my dSLR to the phone, and move all jpgs/nefs from there to a internal card. Or copy, and use the device for better visualisation.
As the camera has its internal battery, power shouldn't be a issue. It would be awesome

I am still working on this.
At the moment it is working for a short time, but then there a same errores.
This meens it should be possible, but same more research must be done.
My Kernel is based on the BUZZ 1.3.7 Kernel, and following patches:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694427
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751535
Here is a dmesg log:

my log file was to big

Quick Q: What did you connect? Or you didn't connect anything ?

DIY USB OTG CONVERTER FOR i9100! IT WORKS!

The most Micro USB to USB converters are not work if you want to use it for OTG converter, because the 4. pin of the micro usb plug is not connected!
The most ebay and computer shop's converters like this!
If you want to use it for working OTG adapter you have to connect the micro usb connector 4. pin to GND (5. pin).
Like this:
I made this mod on my adapter and it works!
First you have to open up the outter cover and carve the plastic around the micro usb pins. You can use multimeter to check the pinout.
After that solder the 4. pin to 5. pin with a piece of wire.
And finally glue back the outter cover.
Video:
So if you have not working adapter you can mod it, if you have suffice experience with electronic and proper tools.
Only do with your own risk!

I have this Usb converter!
With your mod works perfectly!!

just tried it it works perf, thank you!

Weird I got one off eBay from Hong Kong and it works without Modding. Can open files off a USB stick. Got it for £1
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Anyone knows how the Galaxy determines to be in home or car dock?
ALexander

hi thanks for great find just built one from a female usb cable vey nice.

WOrked for me too...thanks

skibadee said:
Weird I got one off eBay from Hong Kong and it works without Modding. Can open files off a USB stick. Got it for £1
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
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Share the link please

I buy a pair in Dealextreme.com
SKU 50774 o search OTG

It may have a resistor between pin 4 and 5, kind of like a jig,
I remember there was a fun with resistors thread for the sgs1.
I may attack tge free dock I,got from optus.
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Vairn said:
It may have a resistor between pin 4 and 5, kind of like a jig,
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OTG has no resistor, its direct connect to GND.

i bought this one from ebay
(cant post links )
item number 260782021641
and it works with usb drives and i used a mouse in it too

OTG Cable USB (B) to Micro USB (A) Powered with AAA batteries ?
As one knows, Samsung has promised a MHL Cable
You noticed it is not only a cable but a box out of which you may plug in an extra power supply.
The obvious reason is if the passive monitor does not furnish 5V, the phone will rapidly be out of power.
Now you know that to obtain video rather than anything less, Pin 4 (sense) and 5 (Ground) of micro USB (male A) must be connected with a 365K resistance.
I suppose the dock Samsung is selling for I9100 (yes, I have it) is grounded at 1000K as it provides audio with remote, and yes, the dock provides power supply via extra micro USB as well.
I come to my point: If I want to access any USB data On the Go, I need a cable OTG with 2 ports: USB 2.0/3.0 (female, B sided) to a micro USB (male, A sided, grounded but with no resistance = 0K). Many of them exist on the market out there.
But it is quite impossible to use because of lack of power supply in the passive device (let’s say a handy 1T HDD usually powered via Host connexion !
Would it be possible to insert some sort of receptacle for AAA battery in the middle of such a cable to provide for power while you are for a long time out of access to an electric plug ? Does such a cable exist somewhere to buy ? What would be the sheme to mount this ? HELP !

Is it possible to add USB charging cable to USB-host cable? I want to use mouse\keyboard\flash and charge device in the same time.
I also interested how to add power to USB-host cable for devices "High-power device connected".

OTG and Power
thats excactly my question:
is it possible to use otg cable with a trackball or mouse and at same time charge the S2?
give power to usb mouse and charge S2 over a charger!?

Is it possible to use a game controller over usb otg? Would be pretty nice.
Wanna have a S2Play ;-)

anonymous572 said:
Is it possible to add USB charging cable to USB-host cable? I want to use mouse\keyboard\flash and charge device in the same time.
I also interested how to add power to USB-host cable for devices "High-power device connected".
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it is not possible. usb host can be used one way not two ways.
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i do have same problem..is there any suggestions to make sgs2 can read the high-power USB flashdisk via otg??

An USB hub with external power maybe ? I didn't tried this kind of setup, but it should work. I have a hub, but I don't have a OTG cable yet.

blueseeker said:
An USB hub with external power maybe ? I didn't tried this kind of setup, but it should work. I have a hub, but I don't have a OTG cable yet.
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I've been try this, but still doesn't work for me..I'm also used electrical multi-tester, and the usb flash already has 5V voltage but in my sgs2 still nothing happen (my usb flashdisk doesn't mounted to sgs2)..
Is there any driver/apps do I need to install first before using OTG?? or, is there two kind of sgs2, the one which support OTG and the other one not??
please someone help me...One point I choose this SGS2 is the OTG feature..
PS: sorry for my english

Micro Usb To Mini USb to Normal USB

I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM

Lordareon said:
I've already ordered the Mine Keyboard and the Adapter to later know that atrix uses a micro USB...
this is the adapter:
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-conversor-usb-a-fmea-para-mini-usb-macho-_JM
Sure it doesnt fit in atrix. but.. if i buy this?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...-para-micro-usb-motorola-moto-q11-cpmt018-_JM
and then convert micro to mini then mini to usb normal? would i be able to plug a keyboard? Thanks
or even buy this new one?
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-195555339-conversor-usb-femea-para-micro-usb-_JM
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you will not be able to plug in a USB peripheral (mouse, keyboard) directly into the phone. it will not work.
you can, however, purchase a +5V powered USB hub (that plugs into the wall), and use that to plug into the phone and plug your KB/mouse into the hub, and it should work. you can find such hubs at www.dealextreme.com
to further answer your question, USB-___USB converters will work as long as the converters have all four lines hooked up. many converters are 'power-only' where only the power/ground lines are connected and the other two lines (data) are not.

So if i buy an ordinary pc hub that connects to power and the plug usb-to-microusb, it will work?

Well let it alone, ill buy a Bluetooth keyboard, will spare time and cables and converters ahahha

The Micro USB plug must be OTG (USB ON THE GO) or your phone won't recognize the peripheral. Also the advice given was correct, the phone USB port can't provide power to a peripheral device and so you must use a powered hub in between the phone and the peripheral device.
A USB OTG has pin 5 and pin 4 tied together in the Micro USB connector end to tell the phone to invoke OTG mode.

Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.

elementaldragon said:
Lordareon: yea... if you'd go the wired route, you'd need a powered USB hub, since the Atrix's micro-USB port doesn't work as a host port. It doesn't provide power to external devices.
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already been stated twice.

USB OTG on the Glide ?

Just that, if anybody can try this out would, it would be awesome. You can follow the steps in this article:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/determine-your-phones-usb-host-capabilities-with-usb-host-diagnostics/
I will make the test myself when I have the phone, but, I live in Argentina so, It'll take a while, I'll be making the payment trough PayPal probably next Monday, soo, that'll be 5 days for the package to be delivered to my courrier's office in Miami, next, another 3 business days for it to be delivered to my partner's house in Chile, and, with luck, another 2 or 3 days till my partner pick it up and bring it to Argentina for me XD
I f*cking hate customs !!! You damn bastards !!!

I ordered the OTG cable.
Not received yet.
Without the cable (and no USB device attached), it says:
Android API:
Claims support : No
Classes found : No
Device detected : N/A
Rooted API:
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Kernel :
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Will let you know the results, but verdict should be Glide support : No ....
BTW : I'm running Rogers ROM + Cranium Kernel. It may report different with AT&T and other kernel ....

frav said:
I ordered the OTG cable.
Not received yet.
Without the cable (and no USB device attached), it says:
Android API:
Claims support : No
Classes found : No
Device detected : N/A
Rooted API:
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Kernel :
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Will let you know the results, but verdict should be Glide support : No ....
BTW : I'm running Rogers ROM + Cranium Kernel. It may report different with AT&T and other kernel ....
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Thanks ! Sounds good to me, Device detected it's gonna be always no, if nothing it's plugged, so that's OK, and, if the Kernel claims support, I'm pretty sure it'll work, after all, this is "Kind" of a Galaxy SII device.

Are you saying that if this works we will be able to plug in a USB Key or an SDCARD via a dongle and upload files to and from our phone. Wow that would be crazy useful. Imagine plugging your friends android phone in USB mode and transferring some files to him.

If we have USB Host anybody thought about this:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Seems like we match all the Requirements:
Hardware requirements
Dual-core 1GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM

dudejb said:
If we have USB Host anybody thought about this:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Seems like we match all the Requirements:
Hardware requirements
Dual-core 1GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; Open GL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video out with secondary frame buffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM
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This is exactly what made me open this thread XD

I have the OTG cable and it works great. I've tested it with a Flash Drive, Mouse, Keyboard, even showed a co-worker how I could charge his iPhone with my phone. Haha
I did the test for you and attached a screenshot of the results.

Wow! That is cool, how did the mouse work? Do you see a mouse in android? Did the keyboard work well? With the flash drive you get to see the files on it?

dudejb said:
Wow! That is cool, how did the mouse work? Do you see a mouse in android? Did the keyboard work well? With the flash drive you get to see the files on it?
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Yes, a mouse is displayed on the screen. It works great, right click acts like the back button, scroll click like the menu button, left click acts like your finger touching the screen (including drag, click and hold). The keyboard is similar with certain keys acting like the android buttons. Also, you can view and transfer files to and from your flash drive.
It works just like it does on the SGS2, tons of videos on YouTube. It's an awesome feature!

gtdRR, thanks a lot, now I want my Glide more badly than before XD
Somebody could PM the admins so this appears in the News Page.

gtdRR said:
Yes, a mouse is displayed on the screen. It works great, right click acts like the back button, scroll click like the menu button, left click acts like your finger touching the screen (including drag, click and hold). The keyboard is similar with certain keys acting like the android buttons. Also, you can view and transfer files to and from your flash drive.
It works just like it does on the SGS2, tons of videos on YouTube. It's an awesome feature!
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Wow I can't wait to try this.....Now, how would I use an MHL cable and a USB mouse and Keyboard.... Kind of would turn my phone into a PC if I could do that. Lets see a Micro USB to USB Hub. Plug into the hub the Peripherals then plug the MHL to a Micro USB to USB converter and away I go....Of course power the MHL. I don't think the MHL connector would like to go behind a USB hub though. In theory is this not what the docking station is doing in order to run the Ubuntu on android? OK not with this phone but on the one that they are demoing it on.

dudejb said:
Wow I can't wait to try this.....Now, how would I use an MHL cable and a USB mouse and Keyboard.... Kind of would turn my phone into a PC if I could do that. Lets see a Micro USB to USB Hub. Plug into the hub the Peripherals then plug the MHL to a Micro USB to USB converter and away I go....Of course power the MHL. I don't think the MHL connector would like to go behind a USB hub though. In theory is this not what the docking station is doing in order to run the Ubuntu on android? OK not with this phone but on the one that they are demoing it on.
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It's a lot simpler than that, just use this MHL cable:
http://www.samsungcaptivateglideaccessories.com/capigpitalsdfkzlig-11.html
Just plug it to your phone MicroUSB port, then plug a MiniHDMI Cable to the MiniHDMI port of the MHL cable, then plug that MiniHDMI cable to your Monitor/TV, on the other side, plug your phone's MicroUSB cable into the Female MicroUSB port of the MHL cable, and then plug that USB cable to a Hub, then just plug every other peripheral into the Hub, and of curse, if you're going to use an External Drive or something like that, remember to buy a 9V/12V AC Adapter for the USB Hub.

santimaster2000 said:
It's a lot simpler than that, just use this MHL cable:
http://www.samsungcaptivateglideaccessories.com/capigpitalsdfkzlig-11.html
Just plug it to your phone MicroUSB port, then plug a MiniHDMI Cable to the MiniHDMI port of the MHL cable, then plug that MiniHDMI cable to your Monitor/TV, on the other side, plug your phone's MicroUSB cable into the Female MicroUSB port of the MHL cable, and then plug that USB cable to a Hub, then just plug every other peripheral into the Hub, and of curse, if you're going to use an External Drive or something like that, remember to buy a 9V/12V AC Adapter for the USB Hub.
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So your saying to plug the MHL adapter to the phone and to plug the Hub to the MHL device. I do not know if this will work as you need to Power the MHL adapter. Are you saying that powering the hub will power the hub and the MHL adapter? Have you tried this? I have the MHL adapter and I love the HDMI ability of my phone but I found I can not use to long a HDMI cable as it will not work since the HDMI cable is drawing power from the MHL adapter. 3 Feet works and 10 feet does not. I have not tested others in between yet. Oh and yes I do power the MHL adapter via another device (USB port to Power, or a Battery device to MicroUSB)

dudejb said:
So your saying to plug the MHL adapter to the phone and to plug the Hub to the MHL device. I do not know if this will work as you need to Power the MHL adapter. Are you saying that powering the hub will power the hub and the MHL adapter? Have you tried this? I have the MHL adapter and I love the HDMI ability of my phone but I found I can not use to long a HDMI cable as it will not work since the HDMI cable is drawing power from the MHL adapter. 3 Feet works and 10 feet does not. I have not tested others in between yet. Oh and yes I do power the MHL adapter via another device (USB port to Power, or a Battery device to MicroUSB)
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I have tried using the MHL and USB OTG cables at the same time and had no luck. Didn't attempt with any powered USB hubs.
What I have done is use the MHL adapter, and a bluetooth mouse and keyboard at the same time. Similar to video here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb-DICYCgg.

frav said:
I ordered the OTG cable.
Not received yet.
Without the cable (and no USB device attached), it says:
Android API:
Claims support : No
Classes found : No
Device detected : N/A
Rooted API:
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Kernel :
Claims support : Yes
Device detected : No
Will let you know the results, but verdict should be Glide support : No ....
BTW : I'm running Rogers ROM + Cranium Kernel. It may report different with AT&T and other kernel ....
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Ok.
Received the cable.
It works.
ROM : Rogers (unklocked & rooted) + Cranium kernel.
USB key is mounted in usbstorage (/sda) and content of USB key is displayed (pdf, ...).
Mouse works as well.
Results posted on USB Host Diagnostics web site (using feature embeded in tool).

I bought a generic MHL cable online and couldn't get it to work; but got it working with two other phones. So apparently you do have to buy the special Captivate Glide cable. Can anyone verify this? I'd hate to pay extra for another cable that didn't work
What did you have to do to get your MHL Cable to work?
It does look like there are several different ones, so I'll try ordering another one...

jbstanford said:
I bought a generic MHL cable online and couldn't get it to work; but got it working with two other phones. So apparently you do have to buy the special Captivate Glide cable. Can anyone verify this? I'd hate to pay extra for another cable that didn't work
What did you have to do to get your MHL Cable to work?
It does look like there are several different ones, so I'll try ordering another one...
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He is talking about OTG Cable, not MHL Cable, no one has confirm that the MHL Cable works with the Glide, only way to know for sure, it's buying an Original Captivate Glide MHL Cable, that most likely it's the same one that for all the Galaxy S II variants out there

santimaster2000 said:
He is talking about OTG Cable, not MHL Cable, no one has confirm that the MHL Cable works with the Glide, only way to know for sure, it's buying an Original Captivate Glide MHL Cable, that most likely it's the same one that for all the Galaxy S II variants out there
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I bought my MHL cable at Monoprice.com for cheap and it works great with a 3Foot HDMI cable and powering the MHL connector.
THe only reason we are talking about the MHL and USB cable is because you need both working to really use the phone on a screen with a USB mouse and keyboard. I ordered a cheap USB host to Microsub cable on ebay when it comes from China I will let you know if it works with and without the MHL.

dudejb said:
I ordered a cheap USB host to Microsub cable on ebay when it comes from China I will let you know if it works with and without the MHL.
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Did they work together?

Works for me sort of...
My micro usb port is loose & i have to hold the phone & cable tightly together to get it to connect. Because of this i can no longer charge my phone directly & have to charge spare batteries separately & swap when they run down.
I can also confirm the hdmi out works too & i have a bluetooth mouse that connects nicely at the same time for remote control.
Wished they would have used a usb mini instead of micro, as the micros tend to fail after moderate use.
Sent from my Rooted Samsung SGH-i927 Captivate Glide
Running Android ICS 4.0.4 LiteRom 0.9.0 LiteKernel 1.2.3 & ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.1.2 using xda-dev app.

[Q] USB-OTG & Charging Cable in One

Hi is it possible to sold an USB-OTG and Charging Cable in one, because OTG is draining the Battery so fast
Greeds
sPeEdX100

Sorry can't be done.

It is possible with Livedock. OTG and charging in the same time, so I belive there is chance for SGSIII too.

It is possible with a diy cable. I made mine from and old micro usb to usb A data cable (the one you use to connect a phone to pc), a hardware switch i scavenged from an old radio and a usb extender cable (you only need the part that has the female port to stick other devices in like flash drives. i use the switch to toggle from usb OTG mode and standard data/charging mode to connect to pc. I think you can't charge and use usb OTG simultaneously. for that you could wait for a wireless charging mod.

I believe this might do the trick (have a look at he video as well).
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/mobile-fun-connection-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-p35462.htm
Think amazon has the S2 "version" for a bit cheaper...

jasweb said:
I believe this might do the trick (have a look at he video as well).
Think amazon has the S2 "version" for a bit cheaper...
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That looks very interesting.....I wonder if a USB sound card would possibly work in there?
the_buzz_man

Hey total destroyer I would really appreciate if you could tell me how exactly you made that diy cable. It is very important for something I am doibg
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