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[NEWB QUESTION] Non-Rooted System Optimization?

I had DC 3.2.2.1 on my phone and was running into reboot issues occasionally, FC errors, etc. (Not Reeve or DC's problem, I was causing my own issues.) and, considering that my phone is a business phone (with a little pleasure), I used the most current Sprint/HTC RUU and reverted it to stock settings. While Rooted, using AutoKiller and ATK, after boot I had approximately 200-210MB of RAM free since the "Sprint Bloat" had been removed. Now under stock settings, after a reboot, using ATK only, I have approximately 120-130MB of RAM free. I was wondering if there were any sort of non-root-friendly system optimization tools to change the boot settings (such as AutoStarts for rooted devices)... Probably not, but hey, you never know until you ask, right?
Thanks in advance for any help I can get.

Also, I'm aware that the phone is fully functional at 120-130MB free, however, I'm a PC tech and I know that using MSCONFIG to disable most startup entries directly results in a faster boot and a snappier environment, which also happens on Android.
Also, for those curious, I also reverted to stock so I can be ready for the Froyo update the moment it's ready, as opposed to waiting a day or two for a root-friendly 2.2 update to made available...

Alright, a little status update. By uninstalling Google Earth, Adobe Photoshop Mobile, Savvy Shopper, and Tesla LED, my phone now boots up with about 210MB free. I guess Earth and Photoshop are just very memory-hungry programs... Too bad they start up immediately.
Sent Supersonically by my EVO and the super awesome XDA app!

stang5litre_5.0_edition_dev_s5 downloaded and extract why next??
I'm on a galaxy s5 mm6.0.1 build QA1 I rooted my s3 a while back and was looking to do this phone to. Unfortunately I've learned it can't be done yet so I just want to change it somehow ...I downloaded and extracted stang5litre_5.0_edition_dev_s5 but nothing has changed I have the super su app and busy box that it installed but nothing else happened so I'm lost...any ino wold be greatly appreciated

[Q] Titanium Backup completely messed up EG22

OK,
I was just finished installing my phone with EG22 (meaning Gingerbread ROM, not Radio), but I had some strange issue.
I installed Titanium Backup and tried to remove (force) Amazon mp3 apk. The phone rebooted into recovery and an error appeard telling Clockwork couldn't mount /system.
The phone was bricked, couldn't do anything in recovery, any action would lead to a screen with an Android logo and a "!" sign in a triangle.
So I used odin to reinstall stock Froyo (trying to flash CWM directly failed too) and now I'm rooting again in order to reflash with EG22. Any issues like these? Did I do something stupid trying to remove the app? What if I adb with root privileges and delete the app?
Regards

I think it was just a fluke
I delete the Amazonmp3 apk all the time. EG22 was really stable for me, too. I don't think you did anything wrong. I would just chalk it up to a bad flash or random corruption.

It was indeed very strange, never had such an issue. Is it the same to remove it via Titanium Backup or via adb directly?

Get sdx app removal tool. You can backup all your bloat before deleting them. It also allows you to restore those apps.
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mschmiedel said:
It was indeed very strange, never had such an issue. Is it the same to remove it via Titanium Backup or via adb directly?
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Titanium backup works fine for me. I have to spend a few hours in it every time I install a new ROM anyway, so I just delete and freeze apps there. Never really had a problem unless I do something stupid like delete the market or the status bar, lol.

Well,
Just removed manually (with ADB) all the bloatware, Seems to have worked fine, still finding apps like:
AllShare (will see what it's for)
Free HD Game
Nascar
SprintID (there's certainly no app in /system/app that contains Sprint or sprint)??
And that should be it, from having over 20 useless apks to having 4 is a big improvement. Still wondering why Titanium messed up my device, but well, doing it manually is also fun...

mschmiedel said:
Well,
Just removed manually (with ADB) all the bloatware, Seems to have worked fine, still finding apps like:
AllShare (will see what it's for)
Free HD Game
Nascar
SprintID (there's certainly no app in /system/app that contains Sprint or sprint)??
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1. AllShare is useless, just get rid of it. I always do even though I forget what it does.
2. The free HD games APK is BS from Sprint that does nothing for you. NASCAR is Sprint's NASCAR app. If you use it, you can delete it.
3. I would keep SprintID. It is Sprint's weird theme applier/app installer. I don't use it but I always keep it.
All of these can be SAFELY removed with Titanium Backup. I have done it to all of them, I think on EG22 also.

Understanding more after root

So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.

dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.

For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.

Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice

dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.

Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?

dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.

now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?

dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.

Atmazzz said:
Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
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Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.

Can stock apps be removed?

So I got the S3 last week, finally found the root thread yesterday and rooted it last night but had already done the OTA update. I am happy with the stock ROM for the most part, just want to get the bloat out of it. I plan on putting CWM on it tonight then backing the stock ROM up.
once I have the stock ROM backed up is it possible to use Ti Backup to uninstall the bloatware without causing any issues with in the stock ROM? If I do remove the bloatware will it cause issues with putting a custom ROM on in the future? What all bloatware can be removed without and bad things happening to the stock ROM.
Sorry for the questions, picture me as that 40 year old guy who knows enough to understand and also mess things up so I try to understand and do calculated moves before I actually do them.
Thanks in advance...Todd

Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732039

sneakyws6 said:
So I got the S3 last week, finally found the root thread yesterday and rooted it last night but had already done the OTA update. I am happy with the stock ROM for the most part, just want to get the bloat out of it. I plan on putting CWM on it tonight then backing the stock ROM up.
once I have the stock ROM backed up is it possible to use Ti Backup to uninstall the bloatware without causing any issues with in the stock ROM? If I do remove the bloatware will it cause issues with putting a custom ROM on in the future? What all bloatware can be removed without and bad things happening to the stock ROM.
Sorry for the questions, picture me as that 40 year old guy who knows enough to understand and also mess things up so I try to understand and do calculated moves before I actually do them.
Thanks in advance...Todd
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you can use tibu to uninstall bloat. if you are unsure, freeze the app (in tibu) for a few days and see if you get fc's. if you don't, then you can uninstall, but it never hurts to have a backup. removing bloat will not affect custom roms

You can also just disable the applications in the built in application manager. You do have to remove any application updates first.
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DontHaveACLue said:
You can also just disable the applications in the built in application manager. You do have to remove any application updates first.
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I used to be able do that, but now I don't have a button to disable or enable an app...any ideas what could cause this? (I used tibu to freeze bunch of bloatware, must have frozen something that caused that?)

Got my S3, have some questions

alright, so my S3 is stock Rooted. Which means I have a stock ROM (LG8) and I rooted using ODIN. Basically i wanted to remove the Bloat crap that's on it so I don't keep having to run the task manager every hour to kill 56 applications that I didn't even run. So what I'm looking for is a stock ROM with ROOT that has absolutely zero bloatware. Does anyone know of one? I downloaded and flashed JellyBomb and my S3 hated it. FC, multiple installs of the apps, youtube crashed every 2 minutes and I didn't even load it.
My stock phone has recently started to lock up and FC on touchwiz now. So does anyone know how to remove the crap that I do not use? I use, Text, Voice, Chrome browser, Facebook, and the play store for games for my son. No dropbox or TALK or flipbook or any of that other useless ****. Hell I don't even use widgets as they just take up real estate on my homescreen. On my OG EVO, i just renamed the .APK in the app folder and restarted. That didn't work on this phone.
I also didn't realize I had to do some stuff with Google Wallet before flashing, when I loaded my Nandroid, my Google wallet had none of my info in it at all.

I would try team sonics freegs3. Its still a TW based ROM but during install you can choose what apps to install and the battery life is great. Another option is a cm ROM. Those are aosp so no bloat ware. As far as the Google wallet goes you are suppose to reset g wallet before you flash other wise it might be permanently damaged. I may be wrong on that subject though. That is just what I hear since I don't use it.
Good luck and make sure if you do flash wipe dalvik cache, regular cache, and factory reset.
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scothern99 said:
alright, so my S3 is stock Rooted. Which means I have a stock ROM (LG8) and I rooted using ODIN. Basically i wanted to remove the Bloat crap that's on it so I don't keep having to run the task manager every hour to kill 56 applications that I didn't even run. So what I'm looking for is a stock ROM with ROOT that has absolutely zero bloatware. Does anyone know of one? I downloaded and flashed JellyBomb and my S3 hated it. FC, multiple installs of the apps, youtube crashed every 2 minutes and I didn't even load it.
My stock phone has recently started to lock up and FC on touchwiz now. So does anyone know how to remove the crap that I do not use? I use, Text, Voice, Chrome browser, Facebook, and the play store for games for my son. No dropbox or TALK or flipbook or any of that other useless ****. Hell I don't even use widgets as they just take up real estate on my homescreen. On my OG EVO, i just renamed the .APK in the app folder and restarted. That didn't work on this phone.
I also didn't realize I had to do some stuff with Google Wallet before flashing, when I loaded my Nandroid, my Google wallet had none of my info in it at all.
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Try out FreeGS3, it's one of the most stable and great battery life. It has Aroma installer that'll guide you through the ROM installation and from there you choose which bloat apps you want installed if any. The dev also move some apps from to /system/apps, or something, that makes them uninstalable from Application Manager.
Before you install FreeGS3 you need to flash TWRP, download GooManager from the market, grant it SU and tap menu then "Install OpenRecoveryScript". Let it do it's thing... you can uninstall the app afterwards.
If there are other app you don't want or need that are included you can use Titanium Backup, found in Play Store, to uninstall the apps. Do not uninstall those apps that are highlighted in red, except Kies that can go, since these are system app and can cause problems with the phone.
Also, killing apps in task manager is not necessary since ICS (and GB as well) kill those apps that are idle or not being used to save on RAM. you could be doing more harm to the battery life than well, I never kill an app or "free memory" and all good with an average of 18hrs of battery.
Read these this write up by former member Flipz, it'll give a more insight on task management in linux and android.
Why you shouldn't be using a task killer

Thanks guys!
I'm at work now and don't have the time to do this right now but I'm downloading the ROM, and already have flashed TWRP. I will mess around with it tonight and see what I can do.

Good suggestions in the previous replies.....also might keep in mind that if for some reason you can't find a custom rom you like could always just go back to stock rooted and use Titanium or Rom Toolbox to freeze or remove any bloatware you don't want that may be taking up resources. Always good to freeze something first before removing just to make sure everything works the way you want. I usually make a backup of all apps after rooting a phone just so I can restore it later if ever need to.
Also, if you look around on the forum I believe there is a way to try and restore Google Wallet that has been successful for peeps that did the same as you.

after iestspel
there are plenty of TW roms our there, also. freezing via titanium like posted above should do the trick too!