Can someone give a laymen definition of what is what?
I think some are kernels, some are modems, and some are updates, but I can't find anywhere describing what is what...
What is the following:
EG30
EG31
EG12
EK02
Maybe just a little history of what is what would help some of the newbies coming online.
Bielinsk said:
Can someone give a laymen definition of what is what?
I think some are kernels, some are modems, and some are updates, but I can't find anywhere describing what is what...
What is the following:
EG30
EG31
EG12
EK02
Maybe just a little history of what is what would help some of the newbies coming online.
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EG30, EG31, and EK02 are all software versions for your phone.
The 1st letter is the year (E=11, F=12, ...)
The 2nd letter is the month of build (A=Jan, ..., G=Jul, ..., K=Nov, L=Dec)
The last 2 #s are the day of month.
The most important parts of these software releases are:
1) modem/radio
2) Kernel
3) ROM
Sprint/Samsung will usually include new versions of all three for each release.
While in theory you could experience incompatibilities mixing and matching different versions of the 3 parts, in practice, so far, it hasn't been an issue. This statement is regarding the stock versions. Sometimes custom kernels can make changes that make mix and matching not work.
EG12 - this is what is stored on the modem partition of the shipped EG30 phone, that partition is UNUSED. Often it is confused for EG30 because when people first pulled the modem from the modem partition, this is what showed up. Later on people realized that was a dormant partition that doesn't reflect the running modem.
EG30 - this is the software version that shipped with the phone Modem/Kernel/ROM. For the longest time we had no true "factory restore" for EG30. We had pulled the EG30 Kernel/ROM from the phone so you could restore to those, but we couldn't pull the EG30 modem (thus you couldn't restore to the EG30 modem). Right around the time of the EK02 release Przekret graciously leaked an EG30 ODIN tar update that include the EG30 Modem/Kernel/ROM.
EG31 - for the longest time we didn't have any way to do a true factory restore. sqush 7 graciously leaked a factory restore that Samsung sent to the maintenance machines at Sprint. At first we thought this was EG30, but after looking at the files we realized there were slight differences. It include the EG31 modem/baseband. It included the EG30-Rev5 Kernel and ROM, which to reduce confusion, we've been referring to as EG31 Kernel and ROM.
EK02 - this is the recently released first official Sprint OTA update for the E4GT. This is the same as the "leaked" EK02 that kingsway8605 obtained a week earlier from Sprint. It has only been released as an OTA patch update. That means it doesn't include the full Modem/Kernel/ROM. It only includes the "differences" from the EG30 release. It is meant to be applied on top of an stock EG30 installation. That is why you must be on truly stock EG30 to apply the EK02 update successfully. Some enterprising folks applied the EK02 update on top of EG30, then pulled the results off the phone to create "full" EK02 updates. Those are floating around and don't require you to be on EG30 (they are also much larger downloads) Caveat is the EK02 modem is still a patch release that must be applied on top of EG30. The modem on the phone is essentially write-only right now. The running modem can't be read or we would have a full EK02 modem pulled.
From another pretty new guy....Thanks for the excellent explanation.
Yea, excellent info. I must have changed something in my install that is causing the update to fail.
Only thing I can remember doing is deleting skype and manually updating to the beta.
Bielinsk said:
Yea, excellent info. I must have changed something in my install that is causing the update to fail.
Only thing I can remember doing is deleting skype and manually updating to the beta.
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Based on what you wrote in the other post, it doesn't sound like it is something you changed. It is unlikely you would have modified that file and that is the first file being checked by the updater, so the install virtually didn't start at all.
More likely it is something else, possibly running in CWM?
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Based on what you wrote in the other post, it doesn't sound like it is something you changed. It is unlikely you would have modified that file and that is the first file being checked by the updater, so the install virtually didn't start at all.
More likely it is something else, possibly running in CWM?
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I may have missed something, I try to check once a day for any updates on Android development, however, I haven't seen anything about EG31 until today.
Where did this come from? Is this released from Sprint or Samsung? When was it released?
It came from squshy's factory odin tar file. This post explains a little about the versions in that tar file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352725
I am wondering if the coming 2.3.6 OTA update for the Sprint E4GT will screw with a returned-to-stock nonrooted phone but has the EG31 modem update installed.
I saw that the EK02 update in the developer forum cannot be loaded on a phone with EG31, hence, my concern.
Temporary problem, possibly, permanent problem, highly unlikely.
A full update will leak eventually or they could simply ship a full modem.bin in the OTA.
It won't be a permanent problem considering Sprint corporate repair centers are using EG30 Rev5 (EG31) to flash phones that have firmware issues. I believe there will be a version of EK02 pushed to devices sporting both EG30 and EG30 Rev5 that will unite the firmware versions. That way future updates will be universal.
Well thanks both of you for easing my tormented mind. Now I just have to summon my patient s.
crzchn said:
Well thanks both of you for easing my tormented mind. Now I just have to summon my patient s.
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Thanks button dude.
I see that we've managed to get our hands on a copy of the EG30 Modem, Huzzah! See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381632
That's all well and good, but has anyone gotten the OTA update notification after flashing back? I used Odin to head back, hoping to get the official OTA. (I had previously unrooted and flashed the .tar file to go back to stock with the EG31 modem.
Looking on Sprint's site for the update (Here) I noticed that my baseband version is: S: D710.0.10S.EG30
And the Sprint website lists the official build as being: S: D710.0.5S.EG30.
Does this mean I'm still SOL on an OTA? (I don't seem to get the notification and a manual check doesn't pull anything up for me)
Or can I flash the update from recovery now that I'm on a version of EG30?
Thanks!
Sprint website has a typo. The version you have is what it should be.
They pick the MEIDs to get the update in a pseudo-random fashion.
Oh ok. Good to know. I'll just be more patient then. Thanks.
Can you provide any more insight into the selection process?
So...I was going to save my upgrade subsidy for when the Galaxy Nexus or SGS3 hit sprint later in the year but the charger in my Evo died today and it wasn't the known USB port issue (mine had gotten chipped on the little bit of plastic inside where the contact pins are) so they couldn't do a repair or swap for free. Anyway, I had kinda wanted this phone anyway and with discount and selling back my Evo it only cost me like $110 plus tax.
I had hacked and rooted my Evo every which way but I'm now back to being a noob. I got a prompt to update my software on first boot but I don't want to update anything that will make it harder to root or mod later on once I get familiarized with the new handset.
My software version is EG30 right now. Do I want to avoid any ota updates like on most devices? What should my course of action be? I see all of the different builds mentioned on the forums but I'm not sure which ones to go for and which ones to avoid. Do people recommend rooting and flashing a specific build for now? I tend to go stock for a week or so when I get a new phone and then flash a new rom once I know what's available. With the update prompts I might want to jump ahead on that process now.
By the way, my sprint store people were awesome. When they wanted to test my Evo I kinda worried about it being rooted and running cyanogen. I couldn't flash back to stock since it would not charge and I didn't have a spare battery. They just said "well htc supports unlocked bootloaders now so as long as its not a software issue we can try to fix it. If its a software issue we would just need you to flash back to stock". Turned out to be a hardware issue but I must say that was a refreshingly fair attitude. Some places won't even look at a rooted/unlocked phone even if there is no software issue.
I also came from the EVO. I love this phone!!!! Everyone here is very helpful. As far as ROMS go, I would start with Calkins with the Rogue Kernel if you plan on using TW. That is what I am running with the optional ICS theme. Love the way that it looks. I can't say enough about how great this phone is. Great performance and batterylife. I tried the EVO3D for all of 3 days and returned it for this phone. Night and Day difference. Welcome to the E4GT family
I would go take a look at qbkings videos on how to everything. and also sfhubs auto root thread.but it doesn't lock you out of being able to do anything by upgrading like htc does. by the way calkulin has the el29 rooted stock. then after getting that I would odin the el29 modem. el29 is the current update for this phone. welcome to the community tho! happy flashing!
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I would go take a look at qbkings videos on how to everything. and also sfhubs auto root thread.but it doesn't lock you out of being able to do anything by upgrading like htc does. by the way calkulin has the el29 rooted stock. then after getting that I would odin the el29 modem. el29 is the current update for this phone. welcome to the community tho! happy flashing!
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So if I let the OTA update go through I won't be screwing myself over for later in the week when I want to start trying out new roms? Just wanna make sure
On Evo it seemed to mostly consist of getting root, installing custom recovery, then you could try out any new kernel, radio, or rom you wanted. Is it relatively similar on the sgs2? Is there anything I want to avoid now to save on headaches later?
Thanks for the tips and the welcome! Between my girlfriend's brand new iPhone getting stolen on Friday and my charger breaking this weekend it's been a bad phone week for us.
nope. I however wouldn't even deal with the update. I would just odin a kernel then from the recovery you could flash any rom you want to try out. I definitely recommend calkulins 2.8.1 or blu kuban v1.1.2 odexed. they come with kernels already installed. then I would either odin or flash a modem. I used recovery to flash all my stuff. if you want a purely stock rom, then in the dev section calkulin has a stock rooted el29 rom. which is just the rom plus root. remember almmost all roms are flashed through cwm. so definitely odin a kernel first. there is a wiki sticky thread in dev section that has all the stuff. btw with odin make sure to ONLY flash kernels through pda. if you put kernels or roms in phone it Will brick it. also never disconnect your phone while odin is flashing.
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also to answer your other question once you get a kernel on your phone you can flash whatever you want. I a tually prefer it to using odin. radio kernel rom. btw unlike htc new recoveries have to be bundled in with kernels. so if you wanted a different recovery like rogue u have to grab a rogue kernel. I love the newest rogue kernel. it has a touch clockwork mod recovery in it. its called rogue "hitman"
Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
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Can you get OTA on AOKP? I switched back to EL29 Gingerbread. But it keeps saying no firmware update is available so I'm just wondering if they would of missed me or something.
I want the update they send out to the phones just incase of anything, such as modems and connection issues.
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Any of the custom ROMs built on FF18 will contain the same thing that OTA had - it has been checked against the leak already.
And no, you cannot pick up OTA on AOKP - stock (rooted/unrooted) only.
If you were still running AOPK, no you wouldn't see it. But since you flashed back to EL29 you will get the OTA. From what I've read the OTA is rolling out in waves. Your region may not have had it rolled out yet.
Why don't you just flash the rooted OTA from the dev section??? Again from what I've read there were no changes made to the OTA from the leaked version of FF18. And word to the wise, if you were to take the OTA you would have to root all over again.
If your having radio or signal issues try flashing a couple different modems till you find one the works for your area.
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