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Video Review: Case-Mate Tough Case

Hey guys,
I usually post on the Int. Galaxy S II and Nexus S forums but my roommate recently picked up the Epic Touch 4G so I'm going to start with some coverage on cases for the device. The folks over at Case-Mate sent me out their Tough case for review, and I will be bringing more reviews of their cases in the coming weeks.
The Tough case is a dual layered case that offers good protection and style, although is it a little thick. You can find the full video below:

I would love to see a review of the barely there brushed aluminum case that casemate is making for the phone.
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I will be getting one then!

I have the case mate tough case, its very nice, not incredibly easy to get on and off, but nice. I came from the otterbox commuter on my evo, but am very pleased with the protection the tough case offers. Best out there I think
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sleshepic said:
I have the case mate tough case, its very nice, not incredibly easy to get on and off, but nice. I came from the otterbox commuter on my evo, but am very pleased with the protection the tough case offers. Best out there I think
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I agree! Taking it off is easy for me, however putting it back on can sometimes be a pain.

For those who may want to purchase one, I've found a deal on it - only 25$ at Accessorygeeks:
http://www.accessorygeeks.com/case-...AMSUNG&utm_campaign=CASE&utm_content=CM017002

Don't bother. I placed an order a couple days ago and it was taking my item forever to ship. I called them and they told me the item was on backorder and they won't be receiving stock till 11/30. They didn't even bother to notify me that they were out of stock so i won't be doing business with them anymore.

Really? That kind of blows...I was hoping they'd be a good company.
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I ordered mine from accessoriegeek for $22 and got it in 5 days. No problems at all.

thecrazy88 said:
I ordered mine from accessoriegeek for $22 and got it in 5 days. No problems at all.
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I can confirm the item is backordered, they are now saying 11/22, so I am cancelling my order.

I can confirm that too..a viewer told me the same thing.
On the other hand, I've got some more reviews coming so stay tuned for that

Ordered mine today.. had a Tough on my HTC Inspire and loved it.
Amazon has it for 28$ right now

jayace89 said:
I would love to see a review of the barely there brushed aluminum case that casemate is making for the phone.
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Same here.
Real curious to see how much thicker it makes the phone.
like a side by side height difference

bobturismo said:
Same here.
Real curious to see how much thicker it makes the phone.
like a side by side height difference
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I have posted some comparison shots in this review thread.
To be honest though, I didn't like the Brushed Aluminium all that much.. ended up giving it to a co-worker and ordering another TPU Matte Back Black.

Got my tough case today for Christmas. Must say that I love it. The tpu I had wasn't bad but the added protection and grip of this case is much better! Comparable to an otterbox commuter series. Not super bulky like the defender series.
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Incipio Silicrylic Case

really curious about these cases
http://www.myincipio.com/Samsung-Ga...CRYLIC-Hard-Shell-Case-with-Silicone-Core.asp
i usually use a trident but these look pretty cool as well
any feedback/experience?

I just ordered one. I'll give some feedback after some use.
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bobbyphoenix said:
I just ordered one. I'll give some feedback after some use.
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Please do I'm very interested in this case its the closest to an otter box case I've seen and want to know how well made it is

Im ordering my case today. I will report back when i get it
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Just got it in. Put it on, and it makes the phone feel so much more stable. I'll post some pics later, but it fits like a glove just like the pics on their site. Nice and snug. No gaps anywhere. The inner part is really soft touch silicon almost squishy rubber feeling, and the outer layer is a hard shell plastic, but it has that soft felt touch. Very high quality. All the holes line up perfectly. I recommend it.

Any pictures?
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Reminds me of the speck cases for the iphone, which is what i used because the iphone is a frickin egg... as an engineer, its currently the most effective design to minimize shock in the event of an impact.

Just ordered mine. Hopefully it's all it's cracked up to be!
Swyped from my iPhone eater
-BeastMOD

Video Review - SGS2 Incipio Silicrylic Case
I like the case! IMHO it's the best one available out there right now for the SGS2 for T-Mobile. Much better than the Body Glove cases they sell at the T-Mobile store (yes I've tried them all). I give it a 9/10 watch my video review (first ever, so apologies in advance) here:
youtube.com/watch?v=BqQ71HlaQDY
Copy and paste above. Admins won't let me post actual link just yet as I haven't reached the posting threshold.

kipao ,
Have you tried any holster ( belt case) that would work would this?
Incipio Silicrylic Case.
Thanks

Does the outer shell feel slippery?
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my money is on the new ballistic sg case : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3zltTaTKc
I just ordered it off ebay today for 25 bucks ill report Tuesday"hopefully" when it gets here.
http://compare.ebay.com/like/280778416757?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y

tdizzle404 said:
my money is on the new ballistic sg case : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3zltTaTKc
I just ordered it off ebay today for 25 bucks ill report Tuesday"hopefully" when it gets here.
http://compare.ebay.com/like/280778416757?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y
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it looks very durable but I am a pocket guy and that would be a ***** to get in and out IMO
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I just ordered the black one. I should have it in a couple days.
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Got the gray one in yesterday.
Easy to install, nice to the touch, looks pretty slick from the back. Sides are a little soft, but nothing major. The buttons are super easy to press, which is the complete opposite of the DSO case.
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GideonX said:
Got the gray one in yesterday.
Easy to install, nice to the touch, looks pretty slick from the back. Sides are a little soft, but nothing major. The buttons are super easy to press, which is the complete opposite of the DSO case.
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Nice! O just ordered the black one after I bought your 3DO case haaaah, dammit! I wanna pair this up with seidio's holster when they release it

Lakeshow423 said:
Nice! O just ordered the black one after I bought your 3DO case haaaah, dammit! I wanna pair this up with seidio's holster when they release it
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Lol, the DSO ain't bad, it had hard buttons but nothing manly man hands can't handle.
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Just ordered a purple one for $18 on their black friday sale. No idea when I'll be getting it though, hopefully soon. I had a silicrylic for my old galaxy tab & it was great. Hard as hell to get on, but very solid.

GideonX said:
Lol, the DSO ain't bad, it had hard buttons but nothing manly man hands can't handle.
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Yeah.....I'm actually using the black and gray D30 but wanted a all black one. I then saw this thread hahahja. Oh well $27.99 for two quality cases ain't so bad

The Silicrylic case is available for $17.99 on Incipio's website and on Amazon (sold by Incipio)
same goes for the feather case
1-day sale

SGP Crumena Leather Pouch for Galaxy Nexus

Just got this thing in and man it's sexy. I'll have a full review up in a few days on my YouTube channel so keep checking on it: http://youtube.com/BlackPrince310

Looking great How's the fit?

Make sure when you get it you give us specifics like are you LTE or GSM and if you can see how it fits with the extended battery (if you are lte.)
I want one but I am fixing to mod my gnex to work with a touchstone so I want to know that it will fit comfortably, especially for something that is 30 bucks.

Zengster6474 said:
Looking great How's the fit?
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Fits perfect. It'll fit both the GSM and LTE models.

Arcadia310 said:
Fits perfect. It'll fit both the GSM and LTE models.
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ANy clue on LTE with extended battery. I am guessing yes because of what it is an how small of a difference it is. If you don't know I may just order one and check it out myself. I just wish they had one in a darker shade of brown.

gbmitchell said:
ANy clue on LTE with extended battery. I am guessing yes because of what it is an how small of a difference it is. If you don't know I may just order one and check it out myself. I just wish they had one in a darker shade of brown.
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i just ordered one... they were nice... and i couldnt resist... i will get back to you guys =)

Arcadia310 said:
Fits perfect. It'll fit both the GSM and LTE models.
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Sounds good I'm going to wait for the tempered glass screen protector and hopefully the Nexus will fit the case when installed!
EDIT: By the way I subbed to your channel

Hows it feel in the pocket?
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alright got mine in the mail today... its really classy looking... fit is tight... like it was made for the phone but its genuine leather so it will stretch for a better fit with time... as u know leather gets better with wear... fit in pocket is really nice... same as the naked phone in pocket but more secure. for sure protects... its perfect if u prefer your phone naked, or going to a meeting or meeting someone for coffee looks really nice set on the table... i really think it was worth buying...

Hows the fit with the extended battery?
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Will a phone with the SGP Neo Hybrid case on it fit in this case?

You said it fit well, was that with the lte or GSM?
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Arcadia310 said:
Just got this thing in and man it's sexy. I'll have a full review up in a few days on my YouTube channel so keep checking on it: http://youtube.com/BlackPrince310
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How's the review going for the Crumena?

queens49 said:
Will a phone with the SGP Neo Hybrid case on it fit in this case?
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No, I do not think any case will fit in this pouch.
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Zengster6474 said:
How's the review going for the Crumena?
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Just buy the case. I have had mine for 3 days now and I think it is the best case I've had. Real quality feel with good protection. And the strap makes it so easy to get the phone out of the case.
I have a Sena Ultraslim as well, but the Crumena is much better! The only thing is that it is a little bit wider compared to the Ultraslim, so the phone will feel a little larger. But I dont mind, the overall feel is really good. Smells fresh leather too =)

I ordered one yesterday and I have an LTE with the extended battery, so I will report back how it is.

i am currently using following case and pouch
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/luckyexpress168

Thanks for the pics OP. Anxiously awaiting the review.

For those that have it - is the snugness of the case affected by the direction you put the phone in? I usually like to put it in with the top of the phone at the opening.

Just ordered a black version earlier. Wanted to go naked on the phone with this instead =).

Those who have this pouch, could you tell me what material being used inside? Is it soft cloth or leather a well? I'm a bit worried it can scratch the screen
I'm really interested in the black version, do they ship to US?
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TPU Bumper

Anyone bought the following TPU Bumper for the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPU-BUMPER-...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item905d2ca610
How is the fit for the GSM version of the GNex?
Will the TPU bumper lift the camera lens away from the surface like how I suppose the front lip (which I hope is minimal) can lift the screen away from the surface when the phone is placed downwards?
How is the gloss like? Any other similar products with matte?
Are the buttons cut-out?
Does it add a lot, width wise?
Is the tpu rubbery? in the sense that it is sometimes hard to pocket?
Wow... lots of questions lol.

Crap, I just found a thread that has the same link. Thread title: "Best Case for Extended Battery $5 (Picture)"
Sorry if I accidentally double posted, my mind filtered out any threads where extended batteries are referred to since I have the standard batt.

Looks good, I am also looking for one.
but not shipping to sg

I ordered one of these. Should be here one day next month. I hate waiting, but that's what it is when shipping from overseas.

textus said:
Anyone bought the following TPU Bumper for the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPU-BUMPER-...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item905d2ca610
How is the fit for the GSM version of the GNex?
Will the TPU bumper lift the camera lens away from the surface like how I suppose the front lip (which I hope is minimal) can lift the screen away from the surface when the phone is placed downwards?
How is the gloss like? Any other similar products with matte?
Are the buttons cut-out?
Does it add a lot, width wise?
Is the tpu rubbery? in the sense that it is sometimes hard to pocket?
Wow... lots of questions lol.
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Mine was delivered on Friday. Very nice... fits perfectly and doesn't add much extra to the phone. It easily slips into your pocket fine even with the rubber which is only very slight. The buttons are covered with the rubber giving it a nice feel while protecting them. I got the black one and the phone feels very good in the hand with it on. Looks very stylish and still retains the GNex look while protecting it.
Hope this info helps. Only issue was it took 3 weeks to get to me..... only got the postal service to blame for that though LOL

I ordered 2 last weekend. My GNEX had been the first phone that I've gone naked with for this long and I'm loving it, but get freaked out of the thought of dropping it with no protection. Hopefully this is a good compromise.
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dp92180 said:
I ordered 2 last weekend. My GNEX had been the first phone that I've gone naked with for this long and I'm loving it, but get freaked out of the thought of dropping it with no protection. Hopefully this is a good compromise.
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Definitely worth the wait. It's very stylish, keeps the GNex looking the way it was intended yet protecting it.

Yo guys check these out!!!!!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPU-BUMPER-...ccessories&hash=item256ee57164#ht_1818wt_1396
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPU-BUMPER-...ccessories&hash=item256ee572fe#ht_1818wt_1396

NICE!!!! thanks for sharing the link
Just bought one white one black for my LTE GN
2-3 weeks delivery tho =/

MFD00M said:
NICE!!!! thanks for sharing the link
Just bought one white one black for my LTE GN
2-3 weeks delivery tho =/
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All the links are for the 9250 GNex. Which one should I order for the LTE version?

ChappellHeel said:
All the links are for the 9250 GNex. Which one should I order for the LTE version?
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I think because of the way these work, they should fit both versions. I can't say for certain since mine hasn't come in yet. Damn slow boat shipping.
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Your welcome haha!
I am buying the Black one with the White front trim, and I think I want to try the Orange and white. Looks nice. Cheap too.

I just ordered this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPU-BUMPER-...ccessories&hash=item256ee572fe#ht_1818wt_1396
Hope it will come soon

ChappellHeel said:
All the links are for the 9250 GNex. Which one should I order for the LTE version?
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I ordered my case from the op's link for my verizon nexus.
Case came in yesterday and overall its a damn good fit and feel for just $4.
Bought a white one but will probably order a black one as well.
I'll post up pics in a bit.

Got the case from the OP yesterday..*FINALLY*!!
I'm using the CDMA version with the extended battery and the fit is fantastic.
I hate having a case on this phone because it just looks and feels so great in hand naked.
This case feels great AND it's minimal enough that it maintains that sexy nexxy look and feel. Seriously, it looks great in person. Couldn't be happier!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12581431/Phone Stuff/IMG_20120401_101655.jpg
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lallymonster said:
Got the case from the OP yesterday..*FINALLY*!!
I'm using the CDMA version with the extended battery and the fit is fantastic.
I hate having a case on this phone because it just looks and feels so great in hand naked.
This case feels great AND it's minimal enough that it maintains that sexy nexxy look and feel. Seriously, it looks great in person. Couldn't be happier!
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that looks really nice. congratulations on your tpu bumper

Good Stuff man I cant wait to get mine, Probably going to be a couple weeks though. So I'll update with pictures. I ended up getting the White and Orange. Try something a little different. I have 3 sgp cases and there all white and black. That kind of vibe.
Looks real nice though man.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPU-BUMPER-...ccessories&hash=item256ee57164#ht_1818wt_1396
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Ordered the b&w, will review it when I get it. Thanks a lot for the tip!

I finally received my TPU bumper last week. It's definitely for the GSM version, though I don't mind it on my VZW phone. I like it a lot. But yesterday, the black TPU portion separated away from the white plastic section at the USB port area so I can't use it anymore. Could just be a fluke in my case though. I contacted the original seller to see what they can do.

I doesn't notice it in HK!
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The Diztronic TPU case now available

Finally. An amazing TPU case without the cheesy back design.
http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=42_68
Amazon link

Lol whats so amazing about them
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The Galaxy Nexus Diztronic case is highly praised on Amazon and Reddit.
I figure the S3 case will be too.

LLStarks said:
The Galaxy Nexus Diztronic case is highly praised on Amazon and Reddit.
I figure the S3 case will be too.
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Yes, its just a very solid tpu case.
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Wond3r said:
Lol whats so amazing about them
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The quality of the plastic is superior. Once I bought one for my Galaxy Nexus I've got one for every phone since then. They are the best TPU brand for phones.
You won't regret it. It's cheap too!

My SII Skyrocket Diztronic case ended up being my favorite of the various cases I tried.
Not at all flashy. Nothing special about it.
It just "works" properly. And doesn't get beat up like cheaper cases do.
And I like that they are finally doing cutouts for BOTH the volume & power unlike on my last case.
I hate anything covering the power or volume buttons. Though some folks do like that.

I've used these cases for 2 years on Captivate, Infuse, Galaxy Nexus and Note. They're grippy, durable and fit perfectly. I just ordered one for my S3. Thanks for the heads-up.

I already have Rock Case, 4 Cruzerlite TPU cases... and a Leather pouch... Do I need/want one more....?

I have a Cruzelite...definitely sub par to the Diztronic cases I've had in the past and I'm sure it will be the same with the new one I have on the way.

jfenton57 said:
I have a Cruzelite...definitely sub par to the Diztronic cases I've had in the past and I'm sure it will be the same with the new one I have on the way.
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Damn you. I bought a Diztronic Matte Black.

komugi said:
Damn you. I bought a Diztronic Matte Black.
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Matte Black is a the best color imho
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komugi said:
I already have Rock Case, 4 Cruzerlite TPU cases... and a Leather pouch... Do I need/want one more....?
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cruzerlite is garbage. i sent it in for a refund. the cut outs dont even line up with the ports correctly lol

Sorry for the delay in getting our S III cases up guys, I was out of town and had an employee put them up. Unfortunately she accidentally set the start selling date as July 6th so the pages never went live. I said didn't you realize we weren't getting any orders?! We sent inventory to Amazon on Friday so Prime shipping options should be available either Tuesday or Wednesday.
We did include a screen protector with this release made of Japanese film. When we first started including screen protectors we were using a Korean film, which is slightly better than Chinese but still had some rainbowing and purpling. These Japanese based ones are great, very good clarity. Even though including them almost doubles our costs we've kept our prices the same for the time being. Thanks everyone for your continued support!
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Just got the matte-clear case! Looking forward to getting it in the mail

OneStepAhead, does the screen protector cover the entire front and have cut-outs?

Wond3r said:
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The company resides and manufactures in America (Madison, WI, near me!!). The customer service is absolutely OUTSTANDING. You basically end up talking to a real person who is dead set on making sure you're satisfied.
And TPU, in general, is perfect for me. Thin, adds a little grip but doesn't stick in pockets.

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cruzerlite is garbage. i sent it in for a refund. the cut outs dont even line up with the ports correctly lol
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cldn't agree more, they are indeed bad. Just ordered Diztronic for my S III . Loved it on my Nexus , was waiting for a week for it to be available in the meanwhile i thought i would try cruzerlite . Apart from the fit, i dint like the looks of it too, esp that i wanted something with a plain back matte finish . Diztronic was the perfect fit . Love it Love it!!!

Actually they are in Madison, but my EVO 4G LTE Diz TPU's specifically stated Manufactured in China.
I put them in a bowl of water and they don't sink so I'd guess they aren't full of lead.
The water did turn green and looked like antifreeze though (just kidding!)

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Actually they are in Madison, but my EVO 4G LTE Diz TPU's specifically stated Manufactured in China.
I put them in a bowl of water and they don't sink so I'd guess they aren't full of lead.
The water did turn green and looked like antifreeze though (just kidding!)
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We are in Madison, WI but unfortunately we have our cases made in China for the time being. I'm looking at potentially having them made in Akron, OH but it's not set in stone at this point. If anyone has any contacts with US based factories that can manufacturer TPU cases feel free to contact me. For now we are using the same lingo everyone else uses, "Designed in ___ Manufactured in China". Our screen protectors however are manufactured in Japan. Some of you should be receiving your GS III cases today, I know at least one XDA member received theirs on Saturday as they were in Wisconsin. I'm looking forward to seeing some feedback as my GS III from Sprint hasn't arrived yet!
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OneStepAhead, does the screen protector cover the entire front and have cut-outs?
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It doesn't have a cutout for the camera, as in my opinion I'd rather have it covered so it's protected. If someone can show me an example of diminished picture quality because of it I may be swayed to make a cutout for it in the future. As far as going all the way to the edge of the glass, from what I understand it's not possible to do so on the GS III because of the way the glass tapers on the edges, so we made the screen protector in the same way as our One X screen protector. It essentially covers the flat part of the glass. You could probably go all the way to the edge with a wet adhesive based screen protector, but with a static type screen protector they would just peel up.

OneStepAhead said:
We are in Madison, WI but unfortunately we have our cases made in China for the time being. I'm looking at potentially having them made in Akron, OH but it's not set in stone at this point. If anyone has any contacts with US based factories that can manufacturer TPU cases feel free to contact me. For now we are using the same lingo everyone else uses, "Designed in ___ Manufactured in China". Our screen protectors however are manufactured in Japan. Some of you should be receiving your GS III cases today, I know at least one XDA member received theirs on Saturday as they were in Wisconsin. I'm looking forward to seeing some feedback as my GS III from Sprint hasn't arrived yet!
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It doesn't have a cutout for the camera, as in my opinion I'd rather have it covered so it's protected. If someone can show me an example of diminished picture quality because of it I may be swayed to make a cutout for it in the future. As far as going all the way to the edge of the glass, from what I understand it's not possible to do so on the GS III because of the way the glass tapers on the edges, so we made the screen protector in the same way as our One X screen protector. It essentially covers the flat part of the glass. You could probably go all the way to the edge with a wet adhesive based screen protector, but with a static type screen protector they would just peel up.
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Great response. Its great to have good interraction with the manufacture and the end user. That makes for the best experience in both parties. Thank you.