I know it has been asked before over here, but i would like to discuss it again:
Could it be somehow possible to activate TV-Out over the 3.5mm audio connector on the defy?
The Samsung Captivate (aka Galaxy S) has it and the devs managed to support it in their CM7 version for the captivate. Perhaps we could use some of those "drivers"?
It would be just to cool to use the defy with a bluetooth keyboard (apple wireless keyboard working flawlessly btw) and a nice big screen for browsing and writing documents...
Btw the cable looks like this.
i dont think its matter of drivers, if the headphones jack is not wired to give tv output, then it wont be physically possible without a hardware mod... just my opinion, i could be wrong tho...
Indeed. If it's not meant to output video then it's not meant to. End of story ^^
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Did anybody proof that its not wired?
At least it can give audio over 3 pins (stereo+mic) - that means all contacts needed are wired. COuld the tv-signal perhaps be "disguised" as audio signal?
shorty66 said:
Did anybody proof that its not wired?
At least it can give audio over 3 pins (stereo+mic) - that means all contacts needed are wired. COuld the tv-signal perhaps be "disguised" as audio signal?
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Do you really think that motorola would put a video-output capable 3,5mm jack in the phone, and not use it as a feature?? Things aren't free in this world. If there was one, they would have said so, simply because...they could sell more Defys thanks to it.
Putting a really awesome feature in a phone and not saying nothing about it? Come on... xD
In addition our phone isn't event meant for tv-out, forget about having it flowing out of wierd places like an audio jack x)
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Do you really think motorola wouldn`t open the bootloader even if they could? They could have sold a few defys more with an open bootloader....
You might have noticed that im not that convinced by your argument.
No **** man. Moto also advertised a gpu less omap 3610. When in all actuality we have omap 3630. Why would they do that? I think this deserves more looking into
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I think if it would be possible, chances are that a kernel tweak would be needed to activate it and thus it would not be possible with a locked bootloader.
But still, i think it could be worth it to take a look in the Captivates librarys regarding tv-out.
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Do you really think motorola wouldn`t open the bootloader even if they could? They could have sold a few defys more with an open bootloader....
You might have noticed that im not that convinced by your argument.
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Motorola wouldn't have significantly more sales if the bootloader was unlocked: over 80% of consumers don't even know what a locked/unlocked bootoader is
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Can the hdmi / vga tv out be sent via USB?
Please dont be naif, you know how much motorola lies about the defy!, i did a search about the defy hardware, the chip as you know is an omap3630 with sgx530 and IVA 2 +, this chip is capable of transmit audio and video, see the pic:
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So the probem is software related, maybe its too complicated due to the locked bootloader but i think its totally posible, its just a matter to find some device that uses the same chip, like the Droid x or milestone 2...
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Please dont be naif, you know how much motorola lies about the defy!, i did a search about the defy hardware, the chip as you know is an omap3630 with sgx530 and IVA 2 +, this chip is capable of transmit audio and video, see the pic:
b.imagehost.org/0148/tiomap.jpg
So the probem is software related, maybe its too complicated due to the locked bootloader but i think its totally posible, its just a matter to find some device that uses the same chip, like the Droid x or milestone 2...
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not really... we all know the chip is capable, but if it is not physically utilized, no amount of software tweaking will make it possible... i dont think they would have bothered to connect the 3.5mm audio jack with video out if they are not going to use it...
but u r asking the right question... think outside the box, if its even remotely possible, i would like to have this feature
Following your argument i would conclude that it MUST be possile to route a video signal through the headphone jack. Of course you would need a software wrapper which codes the video signal and puts it out as a sound. If you would do that as an app, this might be awfully slow. But i cant see a reason for this to be impossile as the headphone jack IS wired to the sound output and apps ARE capale of using that sound output.
I would really like to use an app like that as a workaround, as long as its fast enough for simple rowsing.
Edit: I just searched the marked for "Image to sound" apps and came across "Spectral" which takes an image, converrts it into a sound spectrum and plazs it. It should not e too hard to change the conversion to conformwith the component video standard.
This would still onlz convert one image and i dout it would be possible to use this with screenshots in realtime but it would be a good step towards video out on the defy.
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Following your argument i would conclude that it MUST be possile to route a video signal through the headphone jack. Of course you would need a software wrapper which codes the video signal and puts it out as a sound. If you would do that as an app, this might be awfully slow. But i cant see a reason for this to be impossile as the headphone jack IS wired to the sound output and apps ARE capale of using that sound output.
I would really like to use an app like that as a workaround, as long as its fast enough for simple rowsing.
Edit: I just searched the marked for "Image to sound" apps and came across "Spectral" which takes an image, converrts it into a sound spectrum and plazs it. It should not e too hard to change the conversion to conformwith the component video standard.
This would still onlz convert one image and i dout it would be possible to use this with screenshots in realtime but it would be a good step towards video out on the defy.
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Dude in fact, it is very hard/impossible. One thing is "transform" a digital image in a digital audio. In that case you dont need to make sense, just convert one block of image into one "la" ou "do" and you are good to go.
We have a limited range of frequencies that we can hear and software/hardware generally take advantage of that. Transport analogic video(that may take a broad range of frequencies) trought analogic audio hardware may be impossible for near anything apart form really simple scenes
shorty66 said:
Following your argument i would conclude that it MUST be possile to route a video signal through the headphone jack. Of course you would need a software wrapper which codes the video signal and puts it out as a sound. If you would do that as an app, this might be awfully slow. But i cant see a reason for this to be impossile as the headphone jack IS wired to the sound output and apps ARE capale of using that sound output.
I would really like to use an app like that as a workaround, as long as its fast enough for simple rowsing.
Edit: I just searched the marked for "Image to sound" apps and came across "Spectral" which takes an image, converrts it into a sound spectrum and plazs it. It should not e too hard to change the conversion to conformwith the component video standard.
This would still onlz convert one image and i dout it would be possible to use this with screenshots in realtime but it would be a good step towards video out on the defy.
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why not route it via the micro usb, may be it could be easier?
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Is there some software that can turn the InfraRed on Hermes for use as a remote control for things like TVs?
There is. Say, VITO Remote. But Hermes infrared port is really short-ranged (no more than a meter, I recall), so it's of little use.
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There is. Say, VITO Remote. But Hermes infrared port is really short-ranged (no more than a meter, I recall), so it's of little use.
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like every pda-ir i've ever saw^^
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like every pda-ir i've ever saw^^
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Some iPaqs have a decent range, heck even wizard has a better range than Hermes. Anyway Hermes' IR is not meant for remote controlling the TV.
Would make an interesting project to see if the ir led could be changed or boosted for a longer range. Would love to use my hermes as remote as well
you can search in the old parts of the forum for posts by me for curcirs layout extentions for boosters for ir for pda's
it's alot of work but hardware addons always are
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Is there some software that can turn the InfraRed on Hermes for use as a remote control for things like TVs?
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so why didnt you search the forums first on this topic? theres enough threads on the limited range of iRda.
Novii Remote Deluxe
My Wizard would operate the TV from the couch just fine.
No such luck on the Hermes though. It's IR port is substantially weaker then the Wizard's
the Ipaqs where designed to be used as a remote, a special IR was put in it.
Three is one other option, you can make a sound to IR adapter and "play" the ir signal from a wav file.
forgot where i read about it, but think it was from an ipod hack. gd luck
TyTN Multi Remote Controler...
Koterpillar said:
There is. Say, VITO Remote. But Hermes infrared port is really short-ranged (no more than a meter, I recall), so it's of little use.
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SHORT RANGED
I use Novii Remote Deluxe from http://www.novii.tv/pocketpc/ on my TyTN (Hermes) and it works just fine at about 10 meters with my TV, Hi-Fi Sat. decoder etc. etc.
My wife likes to hide the remote when the Game is on, so I use my "TyTN-Multi-Remote" quite often...
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SHORT RANGED
I use Novii Remote Deluxe from http://www.novii.tv/pocketpc/ on my TyTN (Hermes) and it works just fine at about 10 meters with my TV, Hi-Fi Sat. decoder etc. etc.
My wife likes to hide the remote when the Game is on, so I use my "TyTN-Multi-Remote" quite often...
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EXACTLY which version of Novii did you use and what Rom do you have installed on your Hermes?
DexterH you don't sell that software do you
which hardware and rom do you ahve?
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DexterH you don't sell that software do you
which hardware and rom do you ahve?
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ha-ha, No I do not sell anything, though I could do with an extra income... ( wife just LOVES shoes )
Anyway, I think I exaggerated a bit with the 10m (32feet), took the wife's measuring-tape-thingy-for-making-clothes and my couch is about 5m (16feet) from my TV etc.
Sorry about that, but it is still much further than most of the people I talked to said the Hermes can do, most people talked about less than 1m (3feet) I paid the odd $30 which is less than you would pay for a good hardware Universal Remote and you still can't carry it with you like a PocketPC.
My TyTN (Herm200) was bought new May 2007. I flashed the official WM6 ROM 3.54.255.3 from HTC (5.2.1437 build 17944.0.3.1).
The software version for Novii Remote Delux is 4.11 (build 2006.08.21a, IRv27), released in August 2006.
Sorry again for exaggerating, as you get older the percieved distance from one resting place to the next tends to get greater...
IR
Select models of discontinued HP's that included the Nevo remote software were specially designed with CIR that allows them to have better range etc. This is the same type of IR diode in your conventional remote controls. The Hermes has IRDA. Designed for short range transmission.
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ha-ha, No I do not sell anything, though I could do with an extra income... ( wife just LOVES shoes )
Anyway, I think I exaggerated a bit with the 10m (32feet), took the wife's measuring-tape-thingy-for-making-clothes and my couch is about 5m (16feet) from my TV etc.
Sorry about that, but it is still much further than most of the people I talked to said the Hermes can do, most people talked about less than 1m (3feet) I paid the odd $30 which is less than you would pay for a good hardware Universal Remote and you still can't carry it with you like a PocketPC.
My TyTN (Herm200) was bought new May 2007. I flashed the official WM6 ROM 3.54.255.3 from HTC (5.2.1437 build 17944.0.3.1).
The software version for Novii Remote Delux is 4.11 (build 2006.08.21a, IRv27), released in August 2006.
Sorry again for exaggerating, as you get older the percieved distance from one resting place to the next tends to get greater...
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Many thanks for getting back and supplying the info. I suspect that the hardware that one is using it on also is a factor.
I tried the exact same version of NoviiDeluxe on 2 different devices (so far). One a very cheap no name DVD player and an even cheaper Matsui TV. The maxium range I got from DVD player was ~ 3 metres and the TV barely got to 2 metres.
Anyway, it is much better than often stated. The Novvi software is very good. From their forum there might be a problem on Hermes phones with the pre-built IR codes but there is no problem learning and implementing codes.
novii is nice, but the range kills the fun with stock IR
Wam7 said:
Many thanks for getting back and supplying the info. I suspect that the hardware that one is using it on also is a factor.
I tried the exact same version of NoviiDeluxe on 2 different devices (so far). One a very cheap no name DVD player and an even cheaper Matsui TV. The maxium range I got from DVD player was ~ 3 metres and the TV barely got to 2 metres.
Anyway, it is much better than often stated. The Novvi software is very good. From their forum there might be a problem on Hermes phones with the pre-built IR codes but there is no problem learning and implementing codes.
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Don't know but I think it also has a lot to do with the quality of the signal of the original remote,
May be my imagination, but when in IR-learning mode, I got a huge difference in range if I use new batteries and press-and-hold for a few sec. the button on the original remote, instead of just a quick press. It is as if the captured code is just that little bit stronger...
As said, this may or may not help, but give it a go, you never know...
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Select models of discontinued HP's that included the Nevo remote software were specially designed with CIR that allows them to have better range etc. This is the same type of IR diode in your conventional remote controls. The Hermes has IRDA. Designed for short range transmission.
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allow me to elaborate on this, my last pda (which i kinda sat on - not as sturdy as a remote apperantly...) was the ipaq rx3715.
there are two type's of ir ports generally for pda's - sir and cir.
confused? its sipmle - Serial Infra Red and Consumer Infra red.
the ipaq had SIR on it because it was part of the "media oriented packege" that RX models sport.
TyTn seems to use CIR, short range in order to communicate with other devices. most devices these days dont even get ir ports these days. i've owned my tytn for a year now and haven't once used it.
you'l get up to three meters max on a CIR usually as far as i know - BUT I COULD BE WRONG!!
maybe it could be done something from the radio rom to increase the radio power of the IR port
Regarding 30FPS Issues this is what I got from HTC can somebody tell WTF should I reply them back
Dear Faisal Ali,
Dear Faisal, Since the HTC EVO 4G employs a unique HDMI output to deliver video in HD quality to an external display, the hardware graphics driver interface on the HTC EVO 4G uses significant resources for the HDMI output and therefore displays graphics at 30 frames per second on the integrated display. This is a hardware, and not a software, limitation. It’s important to keep in mind that content including most movies and television, are created to run at between 24 and 30 frames per second. The 30FPS is a hardware limitation. We have found that some games may be impacted by this limitation. If you have any other questions or concerns please Reply back to this email or give us a call at our HTC Technical Support Line, 1-866-449-8358. I want to thank you for contacting HTC.
Sincerely,
Lindsay
HTC
ugh.. What if I DONT want to use the HDMI... I never will...
Makes perfect sense to me, I don't think TV's will play the video if it is over 60i/30p. But I'd like to have the option anyway. Hell, if I could record 480p at 120fps that would be great... because then I could get some cool slo-mo videos. By the same token, it would also be nice to hack it to get [email protected] or something like that. On my HD Cam I can pull any frame and use it as a nice photo - good for up to 8x10 prints or for the web. Hard to miss a shot that way.
I think that's what we'd all like, flexibility.
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ugh.. What if I DONT want to use the HDMI... I never will...
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I definitely will, and have. Take video to family get-togethers and you can just jack into their TV for all to see. Terribly convenient.
I cant even find the Cables for the type d plug..
i wonder if the droid X will be the same, it also has an HDMI out
anyway this shouldn't be under accessories i think...
Do you think there will ever be a dock like this for the droid X or a mod To have the Droid X work with the Atrix because the phones are a little similar i guess 0.0?
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Do you think there will ever be a dock like this for the droid X or a mod To have the Droid X work with the Atrix because the phones are a little similar i guess 0.0?
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probably not but i do hope there will be
i would enjoy a multimedia dock(like the atrix one) as well
Without the dual core chip the laptop would be so slow... the x is great, but it just doesn't have the guts to provide a
Great docking experience.(short of overclocking it like crazy.)
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nah.. but
Probably not, BUT; theres still "some" hope.. i think its totally doable, and sooner or later, someone is gonna develop an app or a rom capable of.. or a combination of the two; that'll allow us to use the HDMI port as a video output...
Id be happy with that.
There was once an app, but got cancelled by the developer.
real hdmi lets you use the hdmi port as an output
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real hdmi lets you use the hdmi port as an output
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In my experience, realhdmi is far from a perfect solution. But so far it is the best solution.
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The concept seems simple, but I have no idea how difficult the implementation would be.
Use the HDMI as video out (it looks fine when I plug my Coby Kyros into my TV, seems a phone would be the same / better). Use the USB as a mouse - I know that Android is designed for touch screen, but I thought you could use a mouse for it.
Anyway, the concept seems simple, but perhaps my concept oversimplifies the matter.
If a 3rd party vendor could make a device independent dock, and price it reasonably, I think it would sell like hotcakes. At least, the same people that would buy the Coby (like me) to root it and do what they want with it would buy a 3rd party dock and use it with their phones.
My wife, who doesn't overly love technology, loved her driod when I finally conviced her to get it. If she could get a dock for it, she would likely never use her laptop.
A device specific dock seems ... ridiculous, for an open source platform.
I upgraded my Coby Kyros last night to Gingerbread - 2.3.1 using tipster's work over at (kyros-tablet-zone.team-talk.net).
I also did some research on the different Android offerings / versions.
Starting with 3.1, whose features were imported in 2.3.4, mice and other devices can now be attached via the USB cable.
After reading the snippet from the Android dev platform highlihts This seems good and bad in the quest for a generic dock. It looks like USB support may be app specific, and also may have hardware requirements (i.e. to use a dock, your phone may need to have some requirment for it.). I've pasted the snippet from the dev platfrom notes below.
(I'm still too new to post links)
developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.1-highlights.html
Connectivity for USB accessories
Android 3.1 adds broad platform support for a variety of USB-connected peripherals and accessories. Users can attach many types of input devices (keyboards, mice, game controllers) and digital cameras. Applications can build on the platform’s USB support to extend connectivity to almost any type of USB device.
The platform also adds new support for USB accessories — external hardware devices designed to attach to Android-powered devices as USB hosts. When an accessory is attached, the framework will look for a corresponding application and offer to launch it for the user. The accessory can also present a URL to the user, for downloading an appropriate application if one is not already installed. Users can interact with the application to control powered accessories such as robotics controllers; docking stations; diagnostic and musical equipment; kiosks; card readers; and much more.
The platform’s USB capabilities rely on components in device hardware, so support for USB on specific devices may vary and is determined by device manufacturers."
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It would be cool but I dont think the x has enough umphf for it to be worth while.
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Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).
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Thought this might interest owners and potential owners:
Incidentally, tried Splashtop after the video over 3G whilst out and about today - amazing! Watched a video with sound - playback was smooth. Hardly any lag via 3G in a reasonable coverage area. Also installed an antivirus to my laptop and did some other useful stuff while I was having a coffee at Bunnings - RDP on a 1280x800 screen is awesome.
I should be receiving a USB DAC in the coming week too, so will update as to whether that works or not...
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sorry,
can you tell me what is the model of the gamepad you use?
Thanks.
Thank you very much for this post. This pretty much seals the deal for me. I will be grabbing one soon.
After watching your video, it looks like I need to find me a nice 20"-23" LED HDMI monitor to go with my Note.
Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!
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Thank you for this awesome video.
Disappointed to the fact that USB hubs don't work, specially because someone in the forum answered me to this same question saying "yes"
In fact my question was if a SB keyboard and a USB mouse can work together using a USB hub.
Could you please confirm this case?
Thnks!
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Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.
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Hey there, sorry if it wasn't clear in the video - the hub itself works fine, its just that using the hubs external power source to power portable HDDs that the Note can't supply enough power to on its own doesn't work (it does in the SGSII). I presume that KB and Mouse would work together with a hub, but unfortunately I can't confirm as I don't own models that are compatible with the Note (or the SGSII).
If anyone in Auckland has some that are compatible I'd love to try this out for people.
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I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.
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I can confirm that Keyboard and Mouse together work well on SGS2 using powered USB hubs, however its very unstable and sometimes freezes the phone. Hope it becomes better with ICS.
Do you mean that external HDD's can be powered by SGS2? I never thought its possible, seems I need to test that again as my HDD is NTFS formatted so wasn't recognized the last time I tried.
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No, the SGSII can't supply external HDDs - I was saying that they do work with the SGSII when connected to a hub that has it's own power supply (that doesn't seem to work in the Note however...).
I don't own a hub but I was able to use a 120 gb external 2.5" USB hdd on the note with external power.
The hdd came with a y cable for additional power supply. I just used the note charger to supply power.
I had to format the hdd with fat32 of course. Win7 wouldn't do it, not with GUI and not on command line.
A app did it http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm.
Another thing was to make 1080p movies playable from the fat32 hdd. I used mkvtoolnix to split the movie into 4gb files.
https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/
With diceplayer I was able to play them without any problems.
What resolution does your laptop run at? When I installed splashtop (phone version), I get set to 1024x720 resolution (looks crappy), while my home PC is 1600x1200. I wonder if splashtop HD would allow me to use the native resolution of my PC (1600x1200)? Any way to install HD apps on the Note?
I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.
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I set my laptop to run at the same resolution as Splashtop when I'm not at home (otherwise it runs in 1080p).
Don't worry, Splashtop are working on a release version for HD phones (probably just an update to the phone Splashtop) and it'll be available soon - I've been in contact with them recently.
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Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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Thanks for the info, Ill hold off on purchasing. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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Not that I'm aware of as yet, some talented dev here needs to work it out for us!
UPDATE: USB DACs do NOT work with the USB OTG feature (as expected). Shame, because the cheapy one I got today sounds amazing compared to my laptop and desktops sound cards! The one I have is a HiFiMAN Express available from here for only $40. Not really for audiophiles, but for those who can appreciate better quality at a fraction of the price these are very good (I think Gizmodo linked to an audiophile review of them where he said they were 70% as good as the sound put out my a $400 sound card, not bad for what the HiFiMAN costs).
Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?
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Thanks for this thread. Very good information.
But I think it's a bit annoying that it's not 'real' upscaled HD, but just the resolution of the Note (1280x800) being outputted to the screen.
I think Splashtop technically looks very good. But I don't like the security - it seems there is not any encryption in the software, not even the passwords!
What bandwidth does Splashtop require over a 3G connection to be stable? And how intelligent is the streamer to figure out which quality to stream in, in order to get the optimal dynamic stream without lag/pauses ?
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Not sure what bandwidth it requires over 3G for stability, I was in a reasonable reception area at the times I've used it over 3G - may have been the amount of bandwidth on offer but the experience was really great with minimal lag (bad upload for my PC at home is the rate limiting step here).
Must be some other Splashtop users here who can chime in?
Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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+1
And if keyboard layout is other than the English version, all the special signs (%&Ç@#) works correctly?
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. Do you know if there is a way to install HD apps on the Note when the market states they are incompatible?
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yes, just use an older version of Market - pull it from an old ROM. And freeze "market updater" in Tibu.
/system/app/Vending.apk
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Great video.
Does an ordinary usb keyboard work directly on the Note?
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Yes, they do, tried one today. Some USB mice also work, will try and connect both with the hub when I get home and see how that goes.
Will also revisit HDD connectivity too, as I have a second note Rooted with CF Root - possible that the drives weren't working because of Netchips kernel (in the same way that WiFi tether was broken).
Great video
Iwas surfing around for a page that ensures this device has definitely tv-out feature. I could not be sure for it, cause at most of the pages promoting galaxy note, it is not being said exactly..
Anyway, found here, and watched your video. now I want a galaxy note even 10 times more..
Thanks man, great job..
I have a question for the developers (im not one):
Though the KF doesnt have a built-in mic, it supports an external one for audio recording. Ive been using Android devices for a little over two years, and have tried a number of audio recoring apps on them.
There are a number of stereo microphones available (from Belkin, Tascam, Blue, etc) that allow high-quality stereo recording on ipods and iphones. There are a number of apps available for recording on Android, but the quality of the recordings is not great. Why is that? Is there something inherent in the Android platform that does not permit hi quality recording?
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This link might enlighten you a bit. Along with extremely poor audio-latency it would seem that audio recording is also problematic. Strange to find this in an audio device such as a phone eh?
Thanks; I actually used to use the Rehearsal Assistant app. I posed this same question to the developer of J4T, which is a very cool Android multitrack recording app, and I just got his response:
"One reason might be that the best recording quality that is supported by most Android phones is mono, 16-bit pcm, with samplerate 44100. So to make sure a recording app runs on most most android phones, the developer should probably use those numbers and not go any higher.
But it also means it's possible to have android phones that can record at much higher quality, and maybe they are out there. But that capacity may go unused, because the apps are developed for the 'average' phone.
Perhaps on other platforms the 'average phones' have higher bitrates and samplerates.
There are actually 2 ways to do audio recording on Android, but I'm not familiar with the other way (where you can record to AAC or AMR format). Perhaps the quality using those codecs is better than PCM, I don't know.
Please don't take this as a definite answer - this is just a guess from my perspective, maybe a manufacturer (or the Android team) would give a different answer."
I've been using a Belkin Tundtalk stereo microphone with a 3rd-generation ipod nano to make reharsal recordings of my rock band; the quality is actually very good. It records in wav format, stereo, 16-bit pcm, with samplerate 44100. So, outside of the fact that Android records in mono, not stereo, the potential for decent quality is there. The lousy quality must have a lot to do with the cheesy microphones used in the Android phones. If I could find a decent quality mic that would work with my Android phone (or with the Fire), I imagine it would make a big difference.
Yeah, from what I know about Android audio going the other way, the audio-latency issues, Google really managed to screw up on a bunch of levels. The audio app market on the iPhone is pretty big and they just haven't stepped up to the plate for developers from what I can see. I see a few apps coming out like AudioSketch that claim to have custom low-latency audio drivers, but that one isn't available for the Kindle Fire so I really can't say. But, sorry, I am digressing. I'd be curious as to see what results you get from your experiences.
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Perhaps the quality using those codecs is better than PCM, I don't know.
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This man doesn't now a thing about sound encoding. PCM is uncompressed audio format so it have smallest use of CPU and it has best quality. Only problem is that is space-hungry in comparison with other codec's.
In audio, whole system is good as the weakest thing in it. You need good MIC, you need good MIC input, you need good audio driver and you need good recording app. If one link in this chain is inadequate resulting sound quality is on level of that poor part.
Hey, just a thought but you might be able to turn your question into a free Kindle Fire if you were so inclined.
Buffet_of_Lies said:
Hey, just a thought but you might be able to turn your question into a free Kindle Fire if you were so inclined.
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Now that you've brought it to my attention, I AM so inclined! That's for letting me know.
I posted my question there, and after about an hour it was Closed as "not constructive" lol.
As I said, I'm not a developer. Even before I posted the question here I googled the subject and haven't been able to come up with a definitive answer as to why this is so. I would think there would be a huge market for after-market microphones for people to use on their Android phones (as there is for iphone and ipod). If I was an iphone fanboy, this would be my first argument against Android - crappy audio recording!