Different HBOOT TYPES. - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all. I'm new to this world so asking a, may be silly, question.
I play with roms every now and then. Change my rom from one to another in couple of weeks. I found STOCK HBOOT OFFERS LESS INTERNAL SPACE THAN CM7 OR CM7r2 hboots for custom roms.
I haven't experimented yet with these things. Can someone tell me how to convert my hboot to cm7 or cm7r2? I haven't done anything with my hboot so I suppose I'm on stock hboot. Difference between cm7 and cm7r2?
Any drawbacks of doing this? And will be able to flash app2sd and data2ext normally as I do now?
Any help would be highly appreciated.
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The difference is that the hboot versions offer you a diffrent internal partition layout
you can look them up http://alpharev.nl/ <-- there
also you can download it from there
You can flash it via fastboot or via the PB99IMG.zip method or you simply use android flasher(recommanded, it´s selfexplaining)

Is there any chance of bricking my phone?
When I switch between roms sometimes I get stuck in boot loops. *no worries*
I just pull out the battery. Reboot in recovery and restore nandroid backup.
In this case I'm cautious because if I'm stuck where would I go because I'm playing with hboot. I think I won't be able to access recovery in that case, right?
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You can brick it if your downloaded hboot.img is not downloaded correcly
If you are in a bootloop you simply go into fastboot and flash the correct table(hboot) and flash your ROM
and yes you will be able to boot into recovery(if youre in a bootloop)

mohsinraza said:
Is there any chance of bricking my phone?
When I switch between roms sometimes I get stuck in boot loops. *no worries*
I just pull out the battery. Reboot in recovery and restore nandroid backup.
In this case I'm cautious because if I'm stuck where would I go because I'm playing with hboot. I think I won't be able to access recovery in that case, right?
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If your download was corrupt or you pulled the cable in the seconds during the flashing period then you'd most probably brick your phone, but during my time on this forum I have never heard of any such misfortunes occurring..
By the way instead of posting try searching... this is just common knowledge info and can be found with a quick google search or a visit to alpharev.. it really isn't hard and not really worth posting a new thread about.

bortak said:
If your download was corrupt or you pulled the cable in the seconds during the flashing period then you'd most probably brick your phone, but during my time on this forum I have never heard of any such misfortunes occurring..
By the way instead of posting try searching... this is just common knowledge info and can be found with a quick google search or a visit to alpharev.. it really isn't hard and not really worth posting a new thread about.
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I've already gone through alpharev but this question of mine about bricking the phone was never answered
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loler90 said:
You can brick it if your downloaded hboot.img is not downloaded correcly
If you are in a bootloop you simply go into fastboot and flash the correct table(hboot) and flash your ROM
and yes you will be able to boot into recovery(if youre in a bootloop)
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Thanks a million. Now this means I take a nandroid backup and download cm7r2 hboot from alpharev. Flash it and then flash a compatible rom.
Do I need a complete wipe before flashing hboot?
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One more question:
I'm on stock hboot. Will I be able to restore nandroid backup when I switch to cm7r2?
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mohsinraza said:
One more question:
I'm on stock hboot. Will I be able to restore nandroid backup when I switch to cm7r2?
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if your ROM fits

bortak said:
if your ROM fits
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Fit where and in what?
Just asking for information. I'll definitely flash a clean new rom.
I'm using Aurora for Desire. It supports both stock and cm7r2.
Will flash that rom again but then I'll have way more internal memory as compared to what I'm getting now.
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I know I'm going to ask a silly question. Sorry in advance
It's written on alpharev that check MD5SUM after downloading the hboot.
How do I check whether it's correct or not?
Don't wanna brick my phone :-(
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The nandroid needs to have the HBOOT you had, when you made that nandroid.
So if U had STOCK HBOOT when making a nandroid wich U like to go back to, then flash STOCK HBOOT - BEFORE - U nandroid back.
So for now... flash the HBOOT U want, and then right after the ROM.
And if U wanna restore your nandroid, then flash STOCK HBOOT, and then restore nandroid.
AND remember... U CAN NOT FLASH RADIO IF U ARE ON CM7R2 HBOOT,
that will brick your phone.
So flash RADIO before, OR do the procedure with ADB if U are already on CM7R2.
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MD5 checksum program: hashcalc (google it)

Jakedude2011 said:
The nandroid needs to have the HBOOT you had, when you made that nandroid.
So if U had STOCK HBOOT when making a nandroid wich U like to go back to, then flash STOCK HBOOT - BEFORE - U nandroid back.
So for now... flash the HBOOT U want, and then right after the ROM.
And if U wanna restore your nandroid, then flash STOCK HBOOT, and then restore nandroid.
AND remember... U CAN NOT FLASH RADIO IF U ARE ON CM7R2 HBOOT,
that will brick your phone.
So flash RADIO before, OR do the procedure with ADB if U are already on CM7R2.
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MD5 checksum program: hashcalc (google it)
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Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. Will flash cm7r2 and new rom as soon as I get to my PC.
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No problem. Good Luck.

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bortak said:
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Thanks buddy. I'm a hostellite. Plan to go home on this weekend.
Will give it a try then.
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MD5 SUM check
Alright so I read about the md5sum check got the software to check it as well, even though it didnt match, I still managed to get the cm7/r2 hboot & flash insertcoin. I want to know how exactly we know if md5sums have matched cos i want to change my rom & i want to know how i can check if the rom is compatible with the cm7/r2 hboot.
Insertcoin freezes a lot on my phone I have no idea why.
Lots of questions on this post from me, someone please answer. need help

gyak88 said:
Alright so I read about the md5sum check got the software to check it as well, even though it didnt match, I still managed to get the cm7/r2 hboot & flash insertcoin. I want to know how exactly we know if md5sums have matched cos i want to change my rom & i want to know how i can check if the rom is compatible with the cm7/r2 hboot.
Insertcoin freezes a lot on my phone I have no idea why.
Lots of questions on this post from me, someone please answer. need help
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This is very awkward if you still managed to flash cm7r2 even though md5sum didn't match.
I haven't tried it yet. Will give a try tomorrow.
Every rom has mentioned which hboots are compatible. You can check it from there.
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gyak88 said:
Alright so I read about the md5sum check got the software to check it as well, even though it didnt match, I still managed to get the cm7/r2 hboot & flash insertcoin. I want to know how exactly we know if md5sums have matched cos i want to change my rom & i want to know how i can check if the rom is compatible with the cm7/r2 hboot.
Insertcoin freezes a lot on my phone I have no idea why.
Lots of questions on this post from me, someone please answer. need help
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You do realise... the point of an md5 match is so that you know the thing that is uploaded.. is exactly the same thing that you downloaded... so... when it matches "hooray lets flash away"... when it doesn't "holy mother of god get the hell of my computer"... you sure you used it right?

mohsinraza said:
This is very awkward if you still managed to flash cm7r2 even though md5sum didn't match.
I haven't tried it yet. Will give a try tomorrow.
Every rom has mentioned which hboots are compatible. You can check it from there.
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if you are using cm7r2 hboot, make sure to flash market cache fix else you will face issue when you download large size apps from market.

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Help stuck in hboot

I just flashed PB31IMG.ZIP containing only hboot .79 over my hboot .77 now my phone wont reboot. Im stuck on hboot. i can go to recovery but thats it. Ive tried battery pull and everything else. Suggestions????
Is it okay to unzip a PB31IMG.zip and delete all the stuff i dont want then rezip and flash??
Im sorry, wrong section i know. This needs addressed immediately and im not getting help in the Q&A section.
blakestiffler said:
I just flashed PB31IMG.ZIP containing only hboot .79 over my hboot .77 now my phone wont reboot. Im stuck on hboot. i can go to recovery but thats it. Ive tried battery pull and everything else. Suggestions????
Is it okay to unzip a PB31IMG.zip and delete all the stuff i dont want then rezip and flash??
Im sorry, wrong section i know. This needs addressed immediately and im not getting help in the Q&A section.
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Reboot bootloader, select recovery, restore a nandroid, or flash a rom. It wipes the kernel when you change hboot
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i dont have a recent nandroid but i do have a kernel on my sdcard could i just flash it?
Just do an advanced restore of the boot partition.
blakestiffler said:
i dont have a recent nandroid but i do have a kernel on my sdcard could i just flash it?
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I haven't just flashed a kernel, but it should work
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GermanBrat said:
Just do an advanced restore of the boot partition.
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no matter what type of restore i attempt it stalls at "checking MD5 sums..."
luniz7 said:
I haven't just flashed a kernel, but it should work
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i tried flashing the kernel. That didnt work either
blakestiffler said:
no matter what type of restore i attempt it stalls at "checking MD5 sums..."
i tried flashing the kernel. That didnt work either
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How long are you waiting for the md5 check, it can take a bit sometimes
Flash a boot.img from a restore and it should work
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i had to redownload the rom and adb push it to my phone. I flashed without wiping and it worked! Thanks for the help guys! Its a work phone. And im at work! lol so urgency was important
luniz7 said:
How long are you waiting for the md5 check, it can take a bit sometimes
Flash a boot.img from a restore and it should work
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i probably waited 4-5 minutes. much longer then i ever waited before.
blakestiffler said:
i had to redownload the rom and adb push it to my phone. I flashed without wiping and it worked! Thanks for the help guys! Its a work phone. And im at work! lol so urgency was important
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word of advice, always make a nandroid backup before you do anything. When you change hboot you will have to flash a rom or a nandroid restore to get past hboot
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luniz7 said:
word of advice, always make a nandroid backup before you do anything. When you change hboot you will have to flash a rom or a nandroid restore to get past hboot
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yeah i didnt know that..
you rooted a work phone?
i guess that's a good idea.
PhillyCheez said:
you rooted a work phone?
i guess that's a good idea.
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Lol I was thinking the same but didn't say anything
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PhillyCheez said:
you rooted a work phone?
i guess that's a good idea.
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luniz7 said:
Lol I was thinking the same but didn't say anything
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my work phone is my only phone and i care more about my phone world than my work world lol

desire brick or brok?!?!?!

hi i flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806321
and now it just will start the boot img and nothing more :S but i started revocery mode and flashed my rom again but same as before, and i tried to wipe everything "and i mean everything" and flashed a rom after but same as before :S what should i do? should i flash a ruu? i tried to download some ruus from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667 but they just come to 1-15%and then they just shut down :S and can someone download http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...io_32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe and send it to me? so i can try to reflash with ruu. thanks in advance!
Have you flashing bravo-boot-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip AFTER you flashed the new ROM images? If not, could you try that, please?
If that doesn't work.. try following all the instructions in the post again, using a ROM image that you know will work.
martijn_bakker said:
Have you flashing bravo-boot-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip AFTER you flashed the new ROM images? If not, could you try that, please?
If that doesn't work.. try following all the instructions in the post again, using a ROM image that you know will work.
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i tried to flash boot.. like 10 times :S and now when im trying to flash my rom it comes up an error" error on line system/xbin" or something like that :S
Flash a ruu, it will return your device to normal! Do you have s-off? In future make sure the system partition size u set is big enough for all your /system/ data, i suggest leaving 10mb extra aswell just to be sure
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AndroHero said:
Flash a ruu, it will return your device to normal! Do you have s-off? In future make sure the system partition size u set is big enough for all your /system/ data, i suggest leaving 10mb extra aswell just to be sure
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o thanks, ye i had s-off but lost when i flashed ruu lost root and my own splath and boot animation xD
Yeah you will, just run unrevoked again and alpha rev ect
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I reckon you should leave custom ROMs alone as you seem to constantly have issues...perhaps they're not for you
EddyOS said:
I reckon you should leave custom ROMs alone as you seem to constantly have issues...perhaps they're not for you
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ye mabey but everyone have problems something thats just that i have them oftan than other user.

[Q] How to extract original stock Rom?

How to extract stock Rom? The case is that I haven't done backup of my stock Rom branded by era provider.
Now some guy told me that he just bought desire z from era and his Rom is identical to RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.2_R_Radio_12.28e.60.14 0f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF_release (available on this forum)
except radio code which is ending with fU instead f.
So if I would like to get Rom which is flashed on his device, to have exactly what was on mine on the beginning what and how it should be done?
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Searching XDA found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android#RUU_Flashing
I think it's just connect phone, run RUU*.exe
tan-ce said:
Searching XDA found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android#RUU_Flashing
I think it's just connect phone, run RUU*.exe
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Ok thanks it is for sure usefully guide but I'd like to know how to retrieve or backup stock Rom from the phone with original stock?
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Ok, if I understand you right, you currently have a phone with stock ROM, and you want to take a backup of that phone, correct?
If that's the case, I think you'll still need to root the phone in order to install Clockwork recovery. Once you have Clockwork, then you can take a nandroid backup of your phone. So I don't think you can grab a backup of stock ROM before it was rooted.
tan-ce said:
Ok, if I understand you right, you currently have a phone with stock ROM, and you want to take a backup of that phone, correct?
If that's the case, I think you'll still need to root the phone in order to install Clockwork recovery. Once you have Clockwork, then you can take a nandroid backup of your phone. So I don't think you can grab a backup of stock ROM before it was rooted.
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Yeah so this a problem. During rooting it is necessary to downgrade your soft to 1.34 what automatically force you to loose your stock Rom. :/
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Oh right, now I remember. I think if you can't find the exact RUU, you're out of luck. What do you want that backup for anyway?
tan-ce said:
Oh right, now I remember. I think if you can't find the exact RUU, you're out of luck. What do you want that backup for anyway?
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No no I wanted only to have a possibility to back to the stock Rom if my phone will have to be sent to service on warranty.
I know one guy from Poland who also bought a phone from the same telcom operator - era.
He gave me info that the stock Rom on his phone is:
12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
While on the forum can be find the same but with one difference in radio code - only f instead fU
12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 and can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879384
But what does it mean this difference mentioned above and if it is negligible or not?
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Well, unless you've flashed a custom radio, another option could be to extract everything from that RUU you found in the forum and flashing everything except the radio.
Although if you want to send your phone for warranty you'll probably have to do a bit more work to get s-on again...
tan-ce said:
Well, unless you've flashed a custom radio, another option could be to extract everything from that RUU you found in the forum and flashing everything except the radio.
Although if you want to send your phone for warranty you'll probably have to do a bit more work to get s-on again...
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I've flashed two ROMs first one was CM7-R2 and then I've decided to use Virtuous 1.0.1. I don't know if during that process also radio was flashed :/ Was it? I am new Android so I don't know some things yet.
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Sebalos said:
I've flashed two ROMs first one was CM7-R2 and then I've decided to use Virtuous 1.0.1. I don't know if during that process also radio was flashed :/ Was it? I am new Android so I don't know some things yet.
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I'm quite sure that flashing those ROMs do not change your radio. So if you need to send for warranty, I think you'll just need to flash the ROM part of the RUU (should be able to find a post somewhere which tells you how to extract just certain parts of the RUU) and then reflash partition 7 to get S-OFF. If you used gfree, it would have made a backup of that partition before it gave you S-OFF. Hopefully you still have it.
Actually, have you taken a look at this?

HBOOT CM7 r2

I used AlphaRev 1.8 to get S-OFF how do i flash HBOOT CM7 r2 ? is there a up datable .zip or is it best to use fastboot option ?
Fastboot is my fave. You can also PB99IMG.zip from hboot
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rootSU said:
Fastboot is my fave. You can also PB99IMG.zip from hboot
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okay to use Android Flasher 2.2.0.5 ? " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638 "
to flash HBOOT image ?
You can. I prefer not to but its your call
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I've only ever used Android flasher and must have changed hboot about 20 times. Works well for me.
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Whichever method you use, wipe all partitions (except FAT32 on SD) after changing.
(If you use 4ext recovery this will be done for you),
wildcardspv said:
I've only ever used Android flasher and must have changed hboot about 20 times. Works well for me.
+1 Used only Android flasher and every time it worked fine
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I have only used fastboot and never had any problems with it. at start it might seem the harder way but when you do it a couple of times it probably is the fastest and easiest way to do it.
also just a reminder, if you wanna change back from cm7r2, flash the downgrader first, then flash the other hboot you wanna go for. (i have learned this a lot later than i should have therefore i feel the need to share it)
hassand said:
I have only used fastboot and never had any problems with it. at start it might seem the harder way but when you do it a couple of times it probably is the fastest and easiest way to do it.
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Plus you're not adding an additional layer of software like these gui apps are.
hassand said:
also just a reminder, if you wanna change back from cm7r2, flash the downgrader first, then flash the other hboot you wanna go for. (i have learned this a lot later than i should have therefore i feel the need to share it)
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Do you mean, everytime one is changing to any different hboot?
I thought this is only needed if one is changing back to stock hboot.
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Personnally I'm a fan of Fastboot Commander. It can be found at the bottom of the Desire Index in the development thread.
You got a few hboots for alpharev then you can make your own layout as you need, so rom will fit perfectly. As I'm trying different Rom flashing hboot as it is required for that specific Rom.
Now I find fastboot much quicker way as fastboot commander with mouse
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malso said:
Do you mean, everytime one is changing to any different hboot?
I thought this is only needed if one is changing back to stock hboot.
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if i remember correctly, you need to use the downgrader first to switch from 387mb system hboot to cm7r2 for example
hassand said:
if i remember correctly, you need to use the downgrader first to switch from 387mb system hboot to cm7r2 for example
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You are remember not correctly. One only needs to use downgrader when one wants to flash RUU or OTA, because the new hboot versions have only overwrite protection against RUU or OTA (Source: http://alpharev.nl).
I've changed from CM7r2 to stock and back again a few times now (when trying out the ICS ROMs that are floating around on here), and have never flashed the downgrader. As MatDrOiD points out, that's only needed if you're going back onto a RUU.
Cheers.
malso said:
Do you mean, everytime one is changing to any different hboot?
I thought this is only needed if one is changing back to stock hboot.
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there are ROM's that doesn't accept a certain boot's, so if you really want that ROM, you must change your boot too

[Q] Alpharev Hboots on latest hboot?

My Dad wants to root his unlocked Desire (That used to be mine FYI) and install CM7, but when I gave it to him I installed the leaked GB RUU which un-rooted it because he didn't want root at the time. I can re-root the device with revolutionary.io but what about a custom Hboot once it's s-off'd and rooted? (more specifically CM7r2)
Matty Matt said:
My Dad wants to root his unlocked Desire (That used to be mine FYI) and install CM7, but when I gave it to him I installed the leaked GB RUU which un-rooted it because he didn't want root at the time. I can re-root the device with revolutionary.io but what about a custom Hboot once it's s-off'd and rooted? (more specifically CM7r2)
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alpharev.nl
download from there, instructions on how to flash using fastboot or zip from hboot are given there too.
alternatively programs like android flasher can do the same thing, though not used it myself.
Yes I'm on cm7r2 hboot now and everything works, plus if you plan to install cm7 rom it's even better 'cause you avoid wasting space in /system and get more space in /data, right where you need it
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Right, but this won't downgrade or brick the Desire right? it will just partition it?
Matty Matt said:
Right, but this won't downgrade or brick the Desire right? it will just partition it?
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Wrong. If you flash a corrupted hboot file, you can brick it.
stankyou said:
Wrong. If you flash a corrupted hboot file, you can brick it.
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IMHO in this case there is no "can". If one flashes corrupted, the phone WILL be bricked.
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stankyou said:
Wrong. If you flash a corrupted hboot file, you can brick it.
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Sure if it is corrupted, if it's a correct hboot taken straight from alpharev there will be less risks. Still, there is always a risk involved when you play with hboots but my experience so far was good
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Matty Matt said:
Right, but this won't downgrade or brick the Desire right? it will just partition it?
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just make sure you check the md5 sums provided before you flash them, with some tool on the net somewhere. it's possible to do so directly on the phone but i dunno how.
virtually eliminates the chances of a bad flash. i've never had any problems flashing hboots
eddiehk6 said:
just make sure you check the md5 sums provided before you flash them, with some tool on the net somewhere. it's possible to do so directly on the phone but i dunno how.
virtually eliminates the chances of a bad flash. i've never had any problems flashing hboots
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Windows tool for checking md5sums:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/MD5-Check.shtml
Linux:
Open terminal, change to directory of the file and type (assuming the filename is hboot.img:
Code:
md5sum hboot.img
Android:
MD5 Checker: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fab.md5&feature=search_result

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