Lag
Blue Skies Free
Bubbles
Fire Work
Microbes
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Water
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Holo Spiral
Maps
Phase Beam
Starfield
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Blue Skies Free
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Fire Work
Microbes
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Spectrum
Water
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Starfield
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Never used live wallpapers.I avoid them like hell
Ditto. They are laggy, battery-draining pieces of crap and they should die a horrible death and be removed from Android..
I'm wondering why some live wallpapers are laggy and others are not !
Phase Beam is almost perfect and home screens are fluid...
I personally LOVE the live wall papers and that is all I use. I dont believe they are killing my battery much more at all. My phone lasts 15 hours a day and thats good enough for me. Wish the wind mill live wallpaper with night/day and weather updates from SGS2 was available on the GNexus.
I also avoid Live Wallpapers. They have caused lag issues on every Android phone I've owned. The GNex is no exception. Maybe when phones have quad core processors and 2gb+ of RAM. But even then I will probably still avoid them.
They do cause a little lag, but they are great to show off the phone. I personally use the "Beautiful weather" LWP that comes with the "Beautiful Widgets" app, and notice even less lag than the "Microbes" LWP that came stock had. And the Beautiful Weather LWP looks amazing on the screen...
I am not really interested in 'fight' between : lovers / non lovers.
I'd like to know WHY STOCK live wallpapers of G Nexus are laggy and Phase Beam NOT.
It's weird...it's unusual...maybe ics code is not 'mature'... In my old NEXUS ONE live wallpapers that came out with the phone were not laggy at all !
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I am not really interested in 'fight' between : lovers / non lovers.
I'd like to know WHY STOCK live wallpapers of G Nexus are laggy and Phase Beam NOT.
It's weird...it's unusual...maybe ics code is not 'mature'... In my old NEXUS ONE live wallpapers that came out with the phone were not laggy at all !
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Then I'm not the only one wondering why such a thing happens!
Phase Beam is the only one working flawlessly!
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Blue Skies Free
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Fire Work
Microbes
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Spectrum
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Starfield
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I have the same issue with the same live wallpapers.
A couple more that lag are:
Snowfall
NFL Teams
this is funny, people still think LWP kills battery.
download launcher pro or go launcher ex and use the same live wallpaper and see if it still lags. I use Christmas HD and it stutters a little at the end of the homepage swipe, in both Nova and Stock Launcher (which are kinda the same) but in Launcher Pro and Go Launcher they are buttery smooth
just posted this on another thread regarding the lwp lag, but then found this one...
I don't know much at all about development, but thoughts from my own observations as to WHY this happens... Something I have noticed that I thought might have an impact on performance:
all the lwp's that have lag (for me) are ones that "move" when you switch homescreens. the bubbles fly around, the nexus 'brain' slides side to side, the microbes move, etc.
phase beam doesn't move when you slide screens. and performance is perfect (for me). that leads me to believe that the lag has something to do with ics (or whatever) moving the lwp while switching home screens.
just a thought...
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just posted this on another thread regarding the lwp lag, but then found this one...
I don't know much at all about development, but thoughts from my own observations as to WHY this happens... Something I have noticed that I thought might have an impact on performance:
all the lwp's that have lag (for me) are ones that "move" when you switch homescreens. the bubbles fly around, the nexus 'brain' slides side to side, the microbes move, etc.
phase beam doesn't move when you slide screens. and performance is perfect (for me). that leads me to believe that the lag has something to do with ics (or whatever) moving the lwp while switching home screens.
just a thought...
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And i think ur maybe right!
there is no lag in the ones that move side to side with go launcher and launcher pro.
highly recommend you all give Nova Launcher a try with live wallpapers, i noticed performance improve dramatically!
not sure why thought :|
That is just unbelievable! Haw on earth this hardware could be beaten by LWP? I didn't use LWP's actually but since I found THIS and found that it lags on SGN, I nerd-rage'd
I really hope that google will figure out issues with updates and one of them will fix that damn issue.
Depending on the code written for each live wallpaper you are going to find some are better than others simply by the way they are written. This should be pretty obvious and I don't understand why you guys don't see this.
Some live wallpaper that someone writes for Android that is optimized in Froyo isn't necessarily going to run like a dream on ICS and the opposite should be true as well. It's not like you throw this in an engine with defined specs and it just churns at whatever it can based on the specs of the engine. The code matters too.
This is why sometimes you see updates vastly improve performance because optimized code can speed things up. I wonder if some of these wallpapers can't even use the 2nd core.
Some are going to be better than others. I run a Tron live wallpaper that I find to work just as well as a static wallpaper in terms of battery life right now.
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Depending on the code written for each live wallpaper you are going to find some are better than others simply by the way they are written. This should be pretty obvious and I don't understand why you guys don't see this.
Some live wallpaper that someone writes for Android that is optimized in Froyo isn't necessarily going to run like a dream on ICS and the opposite should be true as well. It's not like you throw this in an engine with defined specs and it just churns at whatever it can based on the specs of the engine. The code matters too.
This is why sometimes you see updates vastly improve performance because optimized code can speed things up. I wonder if some of these wallpapers can't even use the 2nd core.
Some are going to be better than others. I run a Tron live wallpaper that I find to work just as well as a static wallpaper in terms of battery life right now.
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You are right. Performance depends on many factors, but that is not he case here. Those LWP's work better on Nexus S with ICS :O
Yea I've seen some LWP get updates that go from laggy to smooth. I don't know what it is but devs know.
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I love my Desire and I cannot envisage swapping it for any other phone (except maybe a similar model with a keyboard!). It's obviously one of, if not THE best phone around at the moment.
The only thing I'm slightly envious of is the smooth scrolling of the iPhone. When I scroll through my "All programs" screen it's ever so slightly choppy. Same if I scroll through a long text message conversation. Hardly noticeable unless you put it next to an iPhone.
My question is this: since the Desire has so much horsepower, is it possible to optimise the interface so it's perfectly smooth like iPhone? I don't know anything about development, and suspect this is something that could only be changed by the Android designers, but is there any way a talented dev could do this in a ROM? Anyone care to explain to me yes/no, and why?
Thanks!
I tried out home++ beta yesterday, unfortunately it's not optimised for the desire yet (lots of icons missing) but the app list is silky smooth. I think its poor implementation on gooogle/htc's part rather than the phone being at fault.
Also I'm using handcent for text messaging, its smooth aswell, didnt notice any problems with stock messages app though.
I noticed the choppy scrolling on older Android phones, but I have not had that issue with the Desire yet. It's as smooth scrolling as possible. Even when I put my Desire next to an iPhone 3gs it is fast and smooth. The Desire is even a bit more responsive then the iPhone, which is very noticeable when typing.
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I would say my Desire is definitely fast, but not so smooth. When lists scroll or things open and close on the iPhone it is a definite, measured type of action - it happens at consistent speed from the beginning to the end of the action/animation. No jerking or choppyness at ALL. Whereas on my Desire, despite it's 1gig processor, it doesn't achieve that same effect in all places.
I don't know how else to describe it. It's one of the only places Desire falls down compared to iPhone (oh, apart from the lousy video playback, poor camera recording framerate, cheap touchscreen and poor screen performance in sunlight!).
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I would say my Desire is definitely fast, but not so smooth. When lists scroll or things open and close on the iPhone it is a definite, measured type of action - it happens at consistent speed from the beginning to the end of the action/animation. No jerking or choppyness at ALL. Whereas on my Desire, despite it's 1gig processor, it doesn't achieve that same effect in all places.
I don't know how else to describe it. It's one of the only places Desire falls down compared to iPhone (oh, apart from the lousy video playback, poor camera recording framerate, cheap touchscreen and poor screen performance in sunlight!).
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I noticed that too.
Menu scrolling isn't what i'd call choppy but it's just not AS smooth as the iPhone. This is especially apparent near the end of any menu for some reason.
An example of perfect scrolling speed on the Desire would be the settings menu. That is perfect, no choppiness, no lag, just perfect. Things like the app drawer and sometimes even the homescreens appear to drop a few frames from time to time.
I agree with you, is not smooth like iphone, even being faster than it. Maybe google needs to improve the ui of android to optimize it.
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I think it's rather HTC's fault, cause in the stock Android apps everything is perfectly smooth here. Only the HTC apps sometimes stutter while scrolling.
I'm on an htc hero and notice the same thing. This is something htc needs to release a fix for
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Check the clock when you scroll back to it - if an earlier time you see it for a microsecond when you scroll
yeah its definitely not anywhere as smooth as the iphone, scrolling through most lists is incredibly choppy, even my years old 1st generation ipod touch is silky smooth (even when scrolling through a list of albums with album artwork on each one)
but as someone has said, it seems to be only htc stuff thats like this (the messages app, the app drawer) other areas such as the settings scroll smoothly.
Not anywhere as smooth? Come on, don't exaggerate. It's almost the same as the iPhone, actually.
If you've ever used a Windows Mobile phone, you know what "not anywhere as smooth" means!
But still, of course, any improvement is welcomed...
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If you've ever used a Windows Mobile phone, you know what "not anywhere as smooth" means!
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LMAO!!!!
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yeah, but using live wallpapers will definitely slowdown the scrolling in the homescreen. It's not much, but noticable. Without using live wallpapers, the scrolling is as smooth as it should be.
iphone scrolls page to page, of course this is smoother. Iphone can't handle scrolling over the entire page/apps.
And an Iphone is a dump of icons, doesnt sound like a smartphone to me
Remember the iPhone screen resolution is only 480x320 as well, significantly less than the Desire. Much less screen estate to move around.
Yep, +1
I mainly see this when scrolling to the bottom of the All Program menu.
There are others with this too:
URL blocked by XDA - Search for "lag program menu htc desire" another post in XDA by other users
I emailed HTC about the small amount of lag but they said to return my phone for an exchange! Slightly unnecessary.
Hopefully more people post their lag issues here, HTC see it and do something about it for their 2.2 release.
I've tried various things to try and resolve - made sure no other programs are running, no live wallpapers, no wallpaper at all
Its not a massive problem, but there is no noticeable lag in the stock 2.1 Android Apps drawer - so we know it shouldnt be an issue.
It does stutter a bit done it on all android phones i had from htc, if you use Helixlauncher 2 though that has a much nicer scroll menu and its as smooth as butter, i would love if they could add this style into the Sense system as it looks far better.
iPhone sucks man, if you like it why don't you buy one and you'll have your A LA iPhone smooth scrolling... Jeez, i don't understand soome people.... You have a Desire and still wanting an iPhone... SUCKS!
Using MCR (Modaco Custom Rom) here, without SenseUI. Then decided to install ADWLauncher, and to be honest the scrolling on the main screen/app drawer is super smooth now. So I'd say that this probably is HTC's 'bad' programming on the SenseUI.
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Using MCR (Modaco Custom Rom) here, without SenseUI. Then decided to install ADWLauncher, and to be honest the scrolling on the main screen/app drawer is super smooth now. So I'd say that this probably is HTC's 'bad' programming on the SenseUI.
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that looks cool, I think SensUI is starting to get useless since google implemented many Sense-features into standard android too. The only thing that keeps me having SenseUI is the HTC-clock. I don't like the standard Android-clock widgets. Other than that, I think Sense is starting to get more and more useless. Last year, with android 1.5, Sense was pretty usable.
Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere but I couldnt find it.
Q1. Has anyone experienced clicking the Home button from another app or from the app drawer and seeing just the wallpaper for a few moments until the home screen widgets, folder and shortcuts are redrawn?
Q2. Also, Has anyone noticed lag when scrolling between home screens if a Live Wallpaper is used? I notice some live wallpapers make scrolling worse than some others.
If this has been posted, let me know?
Yes to Q1.
Also had lock up in gallery with a spinning circle and nothing happening.
Yes to Q2. All of the live wallpapers except one cause lag. Quite disappointing.
Yes I've noticed this which is quite disappointing considering everything is meant to be GPU accelerated and butter smooth in an iPhone-esque manner, general navigation doesn't seem any different to my HD2. Hopefully software updates can overcome these issues.
It's good to know I don't have a faulty handset but its a shame that its not as smooth as the early reviews lead me to believe (although it is very smooth once in the app drawer and other places).
Does anyone know any impressive Live Wallpapers that have little or no detrimental effect on Home Screen lag? I find Koi Free quite impressive without causing much noticeable lag (but its a bit old hat now, so I'd like something different).
Yeah I find it very hard to work out how The Verge could've given it such a high score, software in particular, and called it "blazing fast".
It's good, but it doesn't feel very fast to me.
I'm very disappointed by the live wallpaper lag, i thought ICS completely diminished any lag in the OS
all the live wallpapers make the scrolling look historic except for the one: PHASE BEAM
that one is as smooth as a picture wallpaper
anyone else? hopefully its easily fixable in a future general maintenece OTA or some custom roms
if you guys are using third party wallpapers then they probably were never updated to enable the hardware exceleration.
if your using the built in, then thats totally unacceptable IMO and is very upsetting since i was looking forward to having a device that will actually be able to run LWPs.
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if you guys are using third party wallpapers then they probably were never updated to enable the hardware exceleration.
if your using the built in, then thats totally unacceptable IMO and is very upsetting since i was looking forward to having a device that will actually be able to run LWPs.
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I have tryed the ones that came with with phone and sadly it is not smooth also.
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It feels like my Sensation with a 3rd party launcher. =(
Still love the phone but this wasn't supposed to happen.
i read in the endaget review that not all live wallpapers are HW accelerated - as of right now only "Phase Beam" (the default) one is.
Which is why you should notice theres no lag on the Phase Beam Live wallpaper (at least not for me), whereas stuff like "Nexus" live wallpaper will seem to lag
This is the paragraph i read:
"Not all the live wallpapers are fully optimized (for example, Phase Beam is, but Water isn't). Developers have to add a single line of code to their apps to take advantage of 2D hardware acceleration -- you're able to enable this as the default for all apps by checking "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer Options."
So apparently its just one line of code that devs need to add in for their apps - granted, these are GOOGLE wallpapers so im not sure why they just didnt add it in themselves.
But this also adds to the Developer options of "Force 2D rendering" - although im not sure if this will help the unoptimized live wallpaper lag
just my 2cents
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I also sometimes get lag when launching the app drawer.
Scrolling widgets also seems so stutter slightly as well.
Glad to know its not just my handset, but dissapointed as well. My GS2 was buttery smooth everywhere
Well, this is disappointing. It's a pretty basic part of the user experience, one that you'd think Google would spend a lot of time on. My GS1 running 2.3.4 suffers from refilling the launcher when I return to the home screen. I was hoping the SGN with ICS would end that experience. You guys running a lot of apps? Maybe there's something in common between those affected that isn't experienced by everyone. Will be watching this thread.
Noticed it straight after first boot, amount of apps has nothing to do with it, at least for me.
Anyone tried different launchers. Different launchers play a big role in Android user experience and smoothness. I don't think any custom launcher has hardware acceleration enabled yet, but it would be worth a shot.
It is also unacceptable that the default stock Live Wallpapers from Google weren't updated to utilize the hardware acceleration. HWA is the main feature of ICS that everyone was waiting for. EVERYTHING on the Galaxy Nexus should be setup for HWA. No excuses.
On a side note, all of my phones lagged a little when using LWPs. Even my fast G2x. The SGS2 had hardware acceleration enabled... so it could just be the launcher.
adw launcher FTW.
enable 2d doesnt fix it
has this been opened as an issue in the google aosp page
Hmm. This reminds me of the first time I took my Nexus S out of the box..
Just wait for some custom roms and such, google are apparantly horrible at optimizing performance.
I have a feeling that using GPU acceleration to certain wallpapers would cause the phone to become unstable or something, like how forcing GPU acceleration has been reported to cause instability. Google probably disabled it while they quietly work on the issue.
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perhaps
but the one live wallpaper works WONDERFULLY
I have a live wallpaper on, but it still shouldnt be that laggy. My sensation could handle a lot that was thrown at it without being all that laggy. Even with live wallpaper off it's a little laggy. Keyboard in landscape mode? Laggy. Swipe from one home screen to another? Laggy.
Any fix for this!? I just can't wait until CM9 now to fix all this stuff!
I don't know man. I came from a Sensation (running CyanogenMod 7) and the Nexus blows it out of the water in terms of speed and smoothness...and the Sensation was pretty ****in' fast running stock Android.
Well I still think my Nexus is better. I love it to death! But the sudden lag kind of kills it. I don't know what the deal is either.
I read some of the live wallpapers are laggy but not all of them
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Hi monkey hung
I too noticed some laggyness to begin with the Live Wallpaper turned on. Sounds like your last phone was an iPhone 4?
I've been playing around with settings and have a few concepts on what might be going on:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
2. Disable your Live Wallpaper, I did, it saved battery life and things are much snappier.
3. Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
4. I've noticed that dragging my finger along the screen does not give the same smooth/matte feeling of the iPhone 4. As a matter of fact, it almost jitters/vibrates across the contour glass. If I touch with a less contact force, I tend to find the performance of touch screen to be smooth, rather when I apply more force it tends to jump across the surface of the screen creating a jagged touch slide. I've also noticed the higher sensitivity of the accelerometer. If you have a very steady hand you can see the extra performance, if you hand is un-steady, it almost looks worse than the previous phone, but in reality, it was simply my inability to hold the device in one spot that gave the poor performance, really this a reflection on how responsive the phone is to my dodgy movements.
Thanks but I had HTC Sensation with CM7. I think you must have mistaken when I made topic about my girl friend having an iPhone 4 haha
berglh said:
1. First of all, under: Settings > Developer Options, there is a setting called "force GPU rendering". I haven't tried this with the Live Wallpaper on yet, but perhaps this might help the 2D UI laggyness? Let me know what you find.
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please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.
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Close your unused apps. I know ICS is meant to deal with old apps much better now, however, I find my Galaxy Nexus to be snappier when I close down the 30 odd applications I have left in a suspended state. It doesn't take long to swipe them off from the home screen using the right "Application" touch button down the right hand corner of the screen.
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This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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I agree!
Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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The rotation delay is intentional.
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I'm experiencing the same thing you are but the delay is intentional. If my screen was rotating all the time I would get really annoyed!
Also, the switching between 3G and 4G is intentional. 3G uses less battery... it kicks over to 4G when you're actually using the data connection.
My galaxy nexus is almost perfectly responsive. It lags on occasion, but I find it to be much smoother and more responsive overall than just about any other android device I've used. (including the galaxy S II)
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Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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If your phone is laggy, then it's probably something on it you're running that isn't optimized for ICS. My phone runs just fine and easily outclasses any other phone I've used (and I've used pretty much every high end gsm phone that has come out here in the states). FYI your data isn't "fading from hspa to 3g", the phone idles on UMTS and when it's transmitting data it goes to hspa. This is very normal. Do a search on it if you want to know more.
kwazi said:
please don't go around suggesting people to do this. They are developer options for a reason.
Force GPU Rendering is only likely to introduce bugs as some apps don't handle it well. Wait for the developers themselves to enable GPU rendering. In addition, GPU rendering adds extra memory overhead to the app (8MB vs 2MB).
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Wow, we are really going to miss that 6 MB with the 1 GB available to the GN. My last phone was an Xperia X10 with only 384 MB of RAM, yes it was chuggy, but comparatively this amount of allocation is small and the feature seems to work well thsu far. I hardly think they are going to miss it, but your point on the Development Settings is valid to a certain degree.
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By suggesting this, you only end up with people who post back at the forum complaining that App X or App Y no longer works.
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I would rebut this by saying that most of my paid apps either don't work at all or don't work correctly due to the fact I'm running Ice Cream Sandwich prior to turning this option on on my own phone. There are many other reasons that apps are going to fail, particularly on Android. In retrospect, a disclaimer to this effect might have been appropriate considering the ramifications of the advice, and I direct this at hung monkey:
If you are not smart enough to draw the correlation between enabling the 2D acceleration and most of your apps suddenly not working, then you should probably not turn it on.
I have turned it on, it fixed the laggyness of the default Live Wallpaper, I haven't tested how much it saps the battery yet. Turning it on has only resulted in an improvement to my phone thus far.
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Im running an Unlocked version on tmobile. Its very laggy. It takes 2 seconds for screen to rotate to landscape and back, and overall its just slow. Even the data keeps fading from hspa to 3g Im beginning to fall in love with its for its beauty but performance wise my galaxy s2 was way faster and smoother. Is an update going to address this? Any input would be appreciated.
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From what I read about your "laggy" screen rotate. That is intended so it doesn't accidentally change orientations.
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This doesn't "close" anything. It just removed the application from your app switching list. FYI.
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Don't be so sure that it doesn't. For example, if I load a relatively heavy game in to memory, such as Pocket Legends or NFS Shift, and I multitask, the app is suspended. I can use the app selection menu to resume that app, and quite quickly I might ad, much faster than the time it takes for the game to load in memory.
If I then kill it with the Task Switcher, it then has to load from the start, like the suspended session was terminated when I removed it from this list. Even Google themselves said that if you like to manage your apps, then this is how you can end them, but ICS will do a good job of managing it for you anyway, the controls are there if you want them.
This behavior does not match your allegation, would you please care to shed some light?
Cheers!
I concur with the Op - the phone by comparison with my Samsung Galaxy S2, it does seem a bit laggy when scrolling between screens - I have everything setup exactly the same way as on the SGS2.
I'm not technical but I can only hope that these reasons of laggyness come down to the apps,etc. haven't been optimised for ICS yet?
When scrolling up and down the twitter, facebook or google reader apps, it just isnt as smooth as the Galaxy S2 or even the Galaxy S1.
Otherwise, very beautiful UI.
Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.
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Live wallpapers need to die a horrible death. Worst Android feature ever.
To the OP, use a normal wallpaper instead and you'll see an improvement in the overall speed of the UI.
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I agree! This phone lags really bad with all the live wallpapers except for the Phase Beam one. TURN THEM OFF and its by far the smoothest phone.....lol
I use wp clock and havent noticed any lag versus having it off....
Hello,
I´ve just bought a Galaxy Nexus and had great expectations about it being lag free. This was even my first impression but after 2 days of use I can see there are some actions that display a clear visual lag/frame drop.
- On the home screen, if I switch panels using my finger it goes great but if I press the center button to get back to the center panel the transition isn´t smooth (frame drop)
- The blue glow animations from pressing the buttons is not smooth, I can see clearly the transition from the strong glow to black again (stage by stage). It´s even stronger in the settings app, where I press any of the options (battery, app, display, ...) and it takes 1 second to open the new activity: during this time I can see 3 stages before the glow disappears.
- In the apps/widgets list, when I scroll left I can see the panel stops and quickly starts to run smooth again.
The phone came as a yakjuzs but I unlocked the bootloader and updated to yakju 4.0.2 (bootloader, radio and os).
I ran some benchmarks and got lower results than people posted on the internet:
- Quadrant: once 1419 and once 1881. Framerate on the graphics test were: 20/25 on the ladder, 7/8 on the planet and 10/20 on the dna
- Antutu: total score 6140, 2d graphics: 265, 3d graphics: 1184
Are those numbers and behaviors normal? I expected more from the device since it has 2d aceleration (activated for all the apps by the developers settings).
Any chance my upgrade to yakju 4.0.2 is the reason of this performance?
I hope you guys can help me
Gabriel Simões
ps: after upgrading I got stuck in an infinite loop so I did a factory reset and was finally able to use the phone.
(sorry for the double post on the general android forum)
Kill quadrant with fire please as it means nothing . A lot of your issues cleared up with 4.0.3.
Also don't run live walls unless they are meant for ics. That does not include all the stock ones. Phase beam and Galaxy are the only ones from Google that are ics ready. 3rd party I have no idea.
4.0.3 drastically improved my benchmarks and overall performance, went from around your scores up to 3100 with a 4.0.3 ROM and franco's nightly kernel and rid almost all lag in the UI
I specifically remember on the planet portion of the Quadrant Standard benchmark there was a whole chunk missing out of the larger planet while I was on stock 4.0.2...flashed 4.0.3 and it runs at 60 frames a second
I'm also not sure what effect ICS has on the benchmark's accuracy, if any
I'd suggest flashing a new ROM if you were planning on rooting anyway, if not hold out for the official OTA
Attached is my newest bench (franco's 13 with bixgie's 4.0.3 build 4, OC'd to 1350 on higher score and stock clocks lower score)
Its all fake.
Planets uses software rendering on sgx gpus.The renderer was removed from your rom. Its smoke and mirrors because no other apps use that like planets does. The quadrant scores arent translating to performance, and 4.0.3 on its own doesnt improve the scores. It does clear up some graphics and performance issues though.
Its nice to know I didn´t fVck my cellphone on it´s first day!
I´ve been thinking if I should upgrade to a non official 4.0.3 since I got the nexus to have a standard plataform to develop. Audio engine changed a lot from 2.2 to 4.0 and I have to update apps.
By the other side I´d like to lower voltage to improve even more my battery (I get to the end of the day with 50% left).
How is franco's 4.0.3 working for you? Is it too modded?
Also, any idea on when 4.0.3 official will come?
Last but not least, any improvements to screen quality (colors at least)?
tnx
adrynalyne said:
Its all fake.
Planets uses software rendering on sgx gpus.The renderer was removed from your rom. Its smoke and mirrors because no other apps use that like planets does.
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Are there any more accurate benchmarks you'd recommend? (other than authentic usage of course) When I was looking Quadrant seemed to be the most popular (which I understand doesn't make it the best, but I figured it's a good starting point)
Also I've been using franco's nightly's since I got my phone and it's been excellent for me. Better battery life, performance, added features and patches are a nice touch too. Can't say it's too modded since I've yet to run into any issues with any of the changes he's made.
Link to franco's kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422956
Remember - ICS is still new. Most apps/games still aren't "optimized" for it.
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Quadrant isn't ICS optimized and only uses one core I believe.
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adrynalyne said:
Kill quadrant with fire please as it means nothing . A lot of your issues cleared up with 4.0.3.
Also don't run live walls unless they are meant for ics. That does not include all the stock ones. Phase beam and Galaxy are the only ones from Google that are ics ready. 3rd party I have no idea.
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Can you explain what you mean by "ics ready"? Do you mean that all the stock live wallpapers but 2 on the phone aren't optimized? Why would google release the phone like that?
I only ask because I was planning on using the nexus LWP
The Galaxy Nexus laggs with every Livewallpaper I've tried even with firmware 4.0.3 ...
Just don't use them
OJ in Compton said:
Can you explain what you mean by "ics ready"? Do you mean that all the stock live wallpapers but 2 on the phone aren't optimized? Why would google release the phone like that?
I only ask because I was planning on using the nexus LWP
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nobody knows why but google goofed because only 1 LWP works on the new nexus. every other one lags horribly. they must have completely overlooked it i guess.
Why do these retarded threads keep popping up, there is already tons of info on this.
Use the search son
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Using static wallpapers since day one.
Things I do like a lot right now: battery and 3g speed. For a guy that used to use a milestone + cm6, this thing flies and handles 1 day of job with spare juice.
I´d like to know what changed so much from stock 4.0.2 kernel and franco's 4.0.3
Shakes head. Goes back to superb nexus experience.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
@rbiter said:
Shakes head. Goes back to superb nexus experience.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
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That different?
Colemak said:
Are there any more accurate benchmarks you'd recommend? (other than authentic usage of course) When I was looking Quadrant seemed to be the most popular (which I understand doesn't make it the best, but I figured it's a good starting point)
Also I've been using franco's nightly's since I got my phone and it's been excellent for me. Better battery life, performance, added features and patches are a nice touch too. Can't say it's too modded since I've yet to run into any issues with any of the changes he's made.
Link to franco's kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422956
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Antutu is better but as for how accurate, I know not.
ChongoDroid said:
Why do these retarded threads keep popping up, there is already tons of info on this.
Use the search son
sent from my googletron
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So retarded that people still come here with doubts ...
I will try to improve my search skills, improve your invisibility ones ...
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I will try to improve my search skills, improve your invisibility ones ...
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LOL....sorry that was funny
deezid said:
The Galaxy Nexus laggs with every Livewallpaper I've tried even with firmware 4.0.3 ...
Just don't use them
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A lot of the lag in ICS is caused by the animated soft keys. This is fixed in cm9 by having the softkeys have no animation and simply just light up instead of lighting up and fading like before.
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A lot of the lag in ICS is caused by the animated soft keys. This is fixed in cm9 by having the softkeys have no animation and simply just light up instead of lighting up and fading like before.
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Those animatios are really instable in 4.0.2 std:
- If I open the notification bar and press home only once the animation looks great ... if I keep pressing it will lag on the 3rd or 4th time and on...
- The animation in settings menu is terrible and lags a lot ... it takes like 1 second to open the battery activity and while that I can see clearly 3 stages of animation fading out...
Hi everyone,
I have my GSM Galaxy Nexus for nearly 2 months, and I'm really pleased with this phone, which replace my old yet good Galaxy S. The device is snappy, smooth, I can play every games and watch nearly every movie files I want etc, perfect for me, especially with its huge wide screen.
That said, I always try to find a little thing to reproach to my phone. Not so easy, but even so, I find something which can be a bit annoying.
We all use our launcher a lot, obviously, it is like the core/bridge app of our Android device. I noticed that the 4.0 launcher has some performances problems, let me explain you how to easily reproduce them (close all your apps in order to have the best performance as possible) :
-The transition between the app-drawer and the desktop panels can be not so smooth as it should with such a powerful device. Try to go in and out the app-drawer, you will notice that sometimes it lag, sometimes not. I asked myself why it behave like that, and I may have found the problem. When you enter in the app-drawer or when you flip your panels on the desktop or in the app-drawer, you surely have notice this little blue bar at the bottom at the screen, which indicate you where you are. If you try to go in/out the app-drawer while this bar is on the screen, the transition will be laggy. Just wait it disappear, and it will be smooth (if not, do it 2-3 more time, and it should be good).
-When you clicked on a widget in the app-drawer, a message will pop out about how to add it to your homescreen blablabla. It also notice that if you try to flip your panel in the appdrawer or the desktop while the message is on the screen, everything will be laggy, especially in the app-drawer, it will have horrible performance, but as soon as this message disappear, everything become smooth like before.
Why ? It don't know. At first, I thought the problem comes from the launcher, but maybe not. Indeed, if messages like the one I talked about above appear anywhere while you're using your device, like in the Web Browser for example, it will lag, maybe less than in the launcher, but it will.
So what ? Maybe the launcher is not fully hardware accelerated, or it lack optimizations ? It may be the case, but I try to run CM9 on my old Galaxy S, and it doesn't have such problems (the performance will depend on the old hardware itself), it is also the same on a friend's Galaxy SII, its launcher is butter-smooth even if you do want I explain.
Is the OMAP4460 or the PowerVR SGX540 too bad to run it correctly ? I doubt it is the case, since my 2 years old Galaxy S run it good. Indeed, even if I overclocked my device to 1400MHz with the "performance" governor, only the 1st case problem will be partially solved, the 2nd one will still make your device run like crap.
Since those lags can appear everywhere if above conditions are met, the problem may be that our phone can't run correctly if there are 2 "layers" on the screen, the message on foreground and your launcher on background for example. It is probably the case, and even if I study IT, I can't explain it really well, sorry
I obviously try a lot of ROMS : Stock 4.0.2/3/4, AOKP, CM9, ARHD, with stock and custom kernels, and they all have the same problem. If you want to have better performance, try to put the minimal CPU frequence to 700MHz, you will maybe lose 30 minutes of battery, but it is globally more usable if you want my opinion.
Do you experiment the same problems ? Have you any ideas about how to solve them ? Thanks to read me !
PS : The Galaxy Nexus also has performances problems if you are using it in landscape position. Everything will be less smooth and snappy. The best example is if you use the app-drawer, it back absolutely unusable.
Since upgrading to nova launcher prime my UI is very fluid. Landscape is still choppy but less so.
bow chicka wow wow.
I forgot to say that I also tried Nova and Apex, it has the same problems