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I had to up the contrast quite a bit for what I am talking about to show up in a photo, but you can see it here: http://i.imgur.com/TLYe4.jpg
When my screen is totally black, there are 2 "blotches" of the screen that are darker than the rest. They are not image defects, as it happens on any totally black screen.
I like this phone, but all these screen issues are annoying!
what rom kernel?
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what rom kernel?
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Completely stock Android 4.0.2
EDIT: Because you look like you know what you're talking about, I might as well ask you another question here
If I follow these instructions to flash 4.0.4 yakju on my phone currently running 4.0.2 yakjuux, must I be rooted, or will unlocking the bootloader be enough to upgrade?
I have these too. Even at exact location. But i notice it only at totally dark room.
maybe if you still have your trial period you can return it and get another one? ... ive never noticed these but those issues seem very minor
i know if you flash a kernel with colorcontrol you might be able to tune it to the way you like it.
zephiK said:
maybe if you still have your trial period you can return it and get another one? ... ive never noticed these but those issues seem very minor
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Ehh, I'm with WIND mobile here and they tend to just exchange your phone with one that someone else has returned. I am probably just gonna deal with it. It's certainly not noticeable in every day use, it's just something I noticed while looking at my screen last night in the dark.
As a workaround, you can change your wallpaper so its not dark dark dark
blackdesp said:
I have these too. Even at exact location. But i notice it only at totally dark room.
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I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.
Matt08642 said:
I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.
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Google only does the software. Samsung does the hardware.
If anything blame Samsung. There is always a chance of a defect when it comes to production.
But yeah.. it'll have updates from Google and dev support.
Matt08642 said:
I'm gonna assume it's just a defect that shows up in super low light then.
Lots of QC issues with this phone it seems. How Samsung AND Google OK'd it is beyond me, lol.
Oh well, it's better than a lot of crap out there, so I will stick with it for a few years.
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we have to suffer for these issues as early adopters for 720p super amoled screens. I think these are not QC issues. These are the known issues for a still developing technology.
blackdesp said:
we have to suffer for these issues as early adopters for 720p super amoled screens. I think these are not QC issues. These are the known issues for a still developing technology.
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If future gen screens are free of these problems I'll definitely still be all for them
that is a common manufacture defect of amoled screens not just our 720p screens. theres people on the razr forums complaining of this too and motorola said its a manufacturing defect that affects lots of amoled screens. i suspect lots of people have this problem just that they dont notice since you cant see them under normal use.
i have these black splotches too but can only see them when i put a black screen in a dark room, never see them when i use normally or watching videos.
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that is a common manufacture defect of amoled screens not just our 720p screens. theres people on the razr forums complaining of this too and motorola said its a manufacturing defect that affects lots of amoled screens. i suspect lots of people have this problem just that they dont notice since you cant see them under normal use.
i have these black splotches too but can only see them when i put a black screen in a dark room, never see them when i use normally or watching videos.
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I'm interested in what causes this problem. Any links to info/causes?
EDIT: So many things about this phone have made me want to take it back, but then I realize I already have the best phone on the best carrier in Canada! I hate the lack of selection here, lol.
Matt08642 said:
I'm interested in what causes this problem. Any links to info/causes?
EDIT: So many things about this phone have made me want to take it back, but then I realize I already have the best phone on the best carrier in Canada! I hate the lack of selection here, lol.
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you have the best phone anywhere, not just canada. other phones might be better at certain things but overall the nexus is still the best until the htc one s or gs3 comes out. You are going to find problems with any phone out there most are a lot worst than the ones on the nexus.
i dunno about Wind being the best carrier in canada though...lol i was pretty close to switching to them but just didnt want to deal with all the roaming stuff.
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you have the best phone anywhere, not just canada. other phones might be better at certain things but overall the nexus is still the best until the htc one s or gs3 comes out. You are going to find problems with any phone out there most are a lot worst than the ones on the nexus.
i dunno about Wind being the best carrier in canada though...lol i was pretty close to switching to them but just didnt want to deal with all the roaming stuff.
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I mean best carrier in the sense that everything is unlimited. I rarely ever leave the city so it's good for me.
I am currently in customer service hell. They sent me a full month's bill after 7 days of service, and I can't get a straight answer as to why. Tried calling their service center and was hung up on 3 times in a row.
From my understanding, it's due to pixel pre-charging and/or bad threshold calibration. All of the pixels are kept on just a tiny amount even on black screens to produce smoother a smoother display. It takes a lot longer to turn on an LED from rest than to just bump up the brightness a bit. The LED subpixels are held just above their on/off threshold to give relatively deep blacks with smooth light/dark transitions. In theory this works, because it assumes that each LED is perfectly calibrated and they all have an exact on/off threshold. In reality though, we know that no two LEDs are the same. Some have higher thresholds and some have lower than others. This equates to some deadspots and some bright patches on black screens.
Then again, it could just be a badly manufactured screen or some other issue.
Also, some people say that they never saw anything like pre-charging on other OLED screens like on the GSII, but that's because the GSII has a much lower resolution. The Nexus has a much higher resolution, which means a lot more pixels to push, which means there's a lot more light coming out of black screens. That's what gives some Nexus screens that LCD-Backlight look when in dark rooms. That's a non-issue.
Hi,
Bit annoyed, i'll tell you what happened.
SO ... i was happy with my One X, didn't have the screen flicker, or artifacts, or the bad battery life problems.
Then 1.29.401 came along and changed all that. Screen flickers regularly now, and the battery seems to drain a lot faster.
I called HTC, reset the phone, yada yada yada.
HTC told me to go back to where i got it from to DOA it, even though the phone was more than two weeks old. I call the store's support hotline, they said they would "probably" DOA it if the phone was "like new" ...
It's like new because it IS new, so fine.
I go to the store, wait in line for a good 1-1.5 hrs.
Then comes what we all despise.
"Well ... i can't see anything wrong with it."
That's just GREAT!
I spend another 10 minutes trying to explain that it's most noticeable on greys, etc, etc. FINALLY i get him to notice the flickering. He said we'll need your phone for 3 weeks approx. I refuse, he says tough luck. No DOA, no refund. They'll send it in for "repair".
Now ... all of you here KNOW that a phone doesn't get "repaired". If it's not software, they'll send you new hardware. Simple.
Anyway ... i walk out of the store. I Call HTC again. Same story. Dude tells me all he can do for me is to collect it, will take 10 days.
And then i got pissed off ...
This is how i got them to escalate the case:
Me: "Your update ruined my phone. I didn't have problems before, you not only sold me faulty hardware, you ruined my phone after selling it to me."
Rep: "We have to follow procedures, i cannot just give you another phone."
Me: "But you can just go ahead and break it?"
Rep: "Well ..."
Me: "You sold me faulty hardware, you broke it after you sold it to me. This is your responsibility. I am not going to take days off and incur further costs because you -as a company- are playing hide and seek. You won't 'fix' this phone at all. I don't see some poor schmuck with a soldering iron going at it on a microscopic 10 layer board. You want me to send you the phone for you to throw on a pile and then you'll have to send me a new one anyways. This is a hardware problem."
Rep: "I'll escalate the case for you."
Cue long and boring Q&A...
We'll see what happens. I hope they send me a new phone. I don't want to jump through hoops to get proper and decent service. This phone is expensive, i bought it unlocked and unbranded. They should just stop playing games!
I know you read this HTC, please treat your customers better.
Kr,
-Kevin
I'm dreading updating to 1.29 in case it ruins my phone
HTC whore said:
I'm dreading updating to 1.29 in case it ruins my phone
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The way i see it, it's already in some state of disrepair.
I think the backlight is just PWM controlled since it's leds anyway.
They are probably using some PWM capable pin off of something and some transistors. Either this line is being spiked by something (like RF, or static discharge), or it can't provide enough current to drive the transistors in a stable manner.
I dno, but the second i saw it, i was sure it's a hardware issue.
This is, I could quite conceivably have the issue but I just might not notice it - everyone's eyes are different. I mean I can read things at great distance and have perfect 20/20 vision but I've not had a single issue with my handset at all
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This is, I could quite conceivably have the issue but I just might not notice it - everyone's eyes are different. I mean I can read things at great distance and have perfect 20/20 vision but I've not had a single issue with my handset at all
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Trust me, you'll know when you have it. It's pretty obvious. It's like a pulsing stroboscope.
There are topics about flickering and HTC answers, no need to open a thousand
vegetaleb said:
There are topics about flickering and HTC answers, no need to open a thousand
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Yet, the answers all differ?
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Yet, the answers all differ?
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looky here, read the entire first post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617009
double_ofour said:
looky here, read the entire first post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617009
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Thanks!
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Yet, the answers all differ?
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That's because, in the absence of any real information, people keep making things up. Then, multiple people buy in to whatever the guess of the day is and it starts being treated as fact.
Here are some facts:
- The issue is most likely Teg3 related as it's not occuring on the One XL.
- It's not the physical display or related h/w as the One XL isn't experiencing any similar issues.
- It's most likely s/w as the Teg3-based Asus Prime had similar issues and they were resolved after multiple updates.
- Resolution is most likely out of HTC's control as Nvidia' drivers and low-level code are proprietery; meaning they have to make the revisions.
- Phone's at the height of their flickering score lower on the AnTuTu 2D test. When rebooted they score normally. This points to s/w.
- Further supporting that, the below quote if from a very well respected dev here on XDA.
designgears said:
Pretty sure this has to do with the crappy gfx drivers. The same thing that cause the camera to have issues and the notification bar. While I had the international one x, the phone benched really well while those problems weren't happening, but as soon as I was able to reproduce them and ran the tests again, score was reduced by a lot.
I could reboot the phone and the problems would go away, only to come back after some use.
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In the absence of hard fact it's normal to speculate. It's not normal to accept that speculation in place of fact when it's not provided by people with h/w or s/w engineering experience any greater than your own.
I think the At&t version has a little different screen. I keep seeing it it brighter and it has a little different coloring. Could be software controlling that, but I think its more likely just that they have improved the build quality of the display. Better quality then the first batches that came on the first batches of the Htc One X with Tegra 3. I have read that the newest batch of them have better displays.
Look around the 7:05 mark
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/0...tegra-3-quad-core-vs-snapdragon-s4-dual-core/
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I think the At&t version has a little different screen. I keep seeing it it brighter and it has a little different coloring. Could be software controlling that, but I think its more likely just that they have improved the build quality of the display. Better quality then the first batches that came on the first batches of the Htc One X with Tegra 3. I have read that the newest batch of them have better displays.
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It has the same panel ID's and vendor codes as the One X.
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That's because, in the absence of any real information, people keep making things up. Then, multiple people buy in to whatever the guess of the day is and it starts being treated as fact.
Here are some facts:
- The issue is most likely Teg3 related as it's not occuring on the One XL.
- It's not the physical display or related h/w as the One XL isn't experiencing any similar issues.
- It's most likely s/w as the Teg3-based Asus Prime had similar issues and they were resolved after multiple updates.
- Resolution is most likely out of HTC's control as Nvidia' drivers and low-level code are proprietery; meaning they have to make the revisions.
- Phone's at the height of their flickering score lower on the AnTuTu 2D test. When rebooted they score normally. This points to s/w.
- Further supporting that, the below quote if from a very well respected dev here on XDA.
In the absence of hard fact it's normal to speculate. It's not normal to accept that speculation in place of fact when it's not provided by people with h/w or s/w engineering experience any greater than your own.
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The antutu thing: when rebooted, the flicker doesn't disappear, but the benchmark score returns to normal, that would indicate that the antutu benchmark score is entirely different to the flickering
I do understand your points however, I'm just not convinced it is software. And that HTC /nvidia whoever are trying to bodge the software to make it work with crappy hardware that isn't working correctly. Personally id rather have the hardware that worked in the first place without any fixes.
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Yes, but I think they have improved on the build quality of the lcd. Sometimes it takes a couple of batches to get through before they have perfected the model.
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The antutu thing: when rebooted, the flicker doesn't disappear, but the benchmark score returns to normal, that would indicate that the antutu benchmark score is entirely different to the flickering
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My phone and other phones that don't flicker have AnTuTu 2D scores that never change. There most likely is a h/w component to the problem. Speculation is that there's some inconsitency between Teg3 chips and the range they're responding in is outside what the s/w's anticipating. Flickering is just one of the graphics issues. At this point there's nothing to indicate they all aren't related. You can assume that outside the SoC and radios, most parts are common between the X and XL to save on component and production costs. I'd also assume that most of the HTC developed s/w is common to both phones also. The fact that the XL isn't having graphics issues points to something Teg3 related. Especially because the Prime had some of the same funky issues at launch. While it may defy logic, the issues on the Prime were resolved with s/w.
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
arunjnair said:
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
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My first HOX was returned because of the screen flicking issue. Replacement is totally perfect and not had any issues with it at all. The phone gets hot after about 10 mins of continuous use but that is expected.
On the other hand my Dad just received he's One X and that has the Screen Flex issue on the left hand side. I didn't mention it to him as to be honest he prob wont notice but it just goes to show that recent batches still have this issue.
Overall Im really pleased with the phone and if you are unlucky enough to receive a faulty one then you usually have 28 days from the day you receive it to get a replacement sent. After that it's a trip to the HTC Repair center.
The only problems I have had are overheating (all the time, but I don't mind as the phone is powerful and I expect it to get warm) and the yellow marks on the screen, but they went away after a day and I haven't seen them at all (not even the tiniest bit)..
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Yeah my first HOX was dysfunctional too (camera issues, a big 'stripe' when opening the camera app), so I went back to the shop to switch my phone for a new one. So far so good, no problems with my 2nd HOX.
I'm in your same situation I want to buy the one x but all this issues scare me, I think I'm gonna wait for at least two months and then get it, hoping to get a new batch, i cannot exchange it since I would be importing from amazon
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Chad_Petree said:
I'm in your same situation I want to buy the one x but all this issues scare me, I think I'm gonna wait for at least two months and then get it, hoping to get a new batch, i cannot exchange it since I would be importing from amazon
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649943
go to the above link..read the guide there on how to spot any issues while you are inspecting the phone instore and if you do not find anything based on that guide then the phone should be perfect and you will have yourself one hell of a phone
Goku80 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649943
go to the above link..read the guide there on how to spot any issues while you are inspecting the phone instore and if you do not find anything based on that guide then the phone should be perfect and you will have yourself one hell of a phone
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yes but the above link doesnot show how to find the wifi problem before buying it. the hardware issue. any way to detect that. also what if the phone has a default battery. i cant ask the retailer to lend me the phone for a week to test. this doesnt happen in my country man. i am also afraid to to buy the HOX. today i held both HOX and S3 in my hand. and HOX looked so damn fuking good. but still very afraid to buy one.
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yes but the above link doesnot show how to find the wifi problem before buying it. the hardware issue. any way to detect that. also what if the phone has a default battery. i cant ask the retailer to lend me the phone for a week to test. this doesnt happen in my country man. i am also afraid to to buy the HOX. today i held both HOX and S3 in my hand. and HOX looked so damn fuking good. but still very afraid to buy one.
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you do not need to take the phone away to test it. you can test it there by switching it on and playing with it for a few minutes and check for any screen issues ie(flickering) or regarding the wifi you should not have any problems. is this job you buying it from are they are a well known shop were you can trust them to take it back if anything gets wrong with it?
just try and connect to a wifi connection in the store and ask the retailer if it is ok to see if that is working..
actually even better tell the retailer your fears about the One X and ask him if there has been any issues with it and he would be probably the best person to answer all your questions..
if you are still worrying about wifi though there are a few threads here in the general section which you can read upon..but i will tell you this i never had any issues with regarding wifi
arunjnair said:
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
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Check out my thread here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721727
My advice is that if you really prefer the One X over the S3 (which I guess would be your other choice) wait a month or so for these issues to be addressed. HTC is getting a lot of bad press because of these issues and sooner or later the company has to deal with them.
I did a Google search today for S3 build quality defects and surprisingly there were just one off cases..nothing as major as the WiFi death grip issues, the screen flex issue, the overheating or the yellow spot issue! Thats way too many defects for any device. If you are going to be investing a good 36k wait back and let it pass.
silenced3 said:
Check out my thread here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721727
My advice is that if you really prefer the One X over the S3 (which I guess would be your other choice) wait a month or so for these issues to be addressed. HTC is getting a lot of bad press because of these issues and sooner or later the company has to deal with them.
I did a Google search today for S3 build quality defects and surprisingly there were just one off cases..nothing as major as the WiFi death grip issues, the screen flex issue, the overheating or the yellow spot issue! Thats way too many defects for any device. If you are going to be investing a good 36k wait back and let it pass.
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As you said, I think its better to wait for 1 more month, till HTC sort out these glitches.
I've not tried S3 on hand till now, so I dont know how it is....my default option was HTC one X and I was eagerly waiting for its launch.But these issues really let me down...its like taking a huge risk as of now..so lemme wait and get it...sometimes anticipation is sweet when you are sure of outcome(Hope HTC rectify the issues)
Goku80 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649943
go to the above link..read the guide there on how to spot any issues while you are inspecting the phone instore and if you do not find anything based on that guide then the phone should be perfect and you will have yourself one hell of a phone
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I cannot return it, ill be freight forwarding the phone to my country, returning it would cost me something like 80 $ :/
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Goku80 said:
you do not need to take the phone away to test it. you can test it there by switching it on and playing with it for a few minutes and check for any screen issues ie(flickering) or regarding the wifi you should not have any problems. is this job you buying it from are they are a well known shop were you can trust them to take it back if anything gets wrong with it?
just try and connect to a wifi connection in the store and ask the retailer if it is ok to see if that is working..
actually even better tell the retailer your fears about the One X and ask him if there has been any issues with it and he would be probably the best person to answer all your questions..
if you are still worrying about wifi though there are a few threads here in the general section which you can read upon..but i will tell you this i never had any issues with regarding wifi
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Hey buddy,
here in India the story is entirely different.the retailer will have a display piece in their showroom, and the customer is allowed to use that alone for verification.
And once the customer buys the new one, and if he finds issues out if the box, the retailer wont take any responsiblities.
They will ask us to go to HTC service center, which will be miles away.The retailers really sucks in this matter here, and for the customer, its like trial and error.....
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As you said, I think its better to wait for 1 more month, till HTC sort out these glitches.
I've not tried S3 on hand till now, so I dont know how it is....my default option was HTC one X and I was eagerly waiting for its launch.But these issues really let me down...its like taking a huge risk as of now..so lemme wait and get it...sometimes anticipation is sweet when you are sure of outcome(Hope HTC rectify the issues)
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Try the S3 in the meanwhile..spend some time with it. S3 put me off primarily because of the looks.. Other things apart, One X is a more premium looking phone and for me this is a very important factor. Keep visiting your nearest retailer and see if the SH25 or HT25 series has arrived. This batch seems to be the best of the lot .. Holding back a month or so will really pay off in the end.
arunjnair said:
Dear members,
I would like to know the truth behind the issues faced by the HTC one X, which I read in many websites across the internet(and few here).I'm expecting a truthful reply from current users.
I was decided to get one for me untill last week, but the issues what I read for one X confused me.The issues that I came across was;
over heating(guess its obvious for smart phones)
Wi-fi issues(death grip issue)
screen/display flickering,
yellow spots on display,
Frequent black screens,
Restart troubles,
Music player issues(when music player stops when gallery is used)
Taiwan made phone's facing issues over Chineese made ones.
I would really appreciate if someone could give me their honest review of Htc One X and
help me decide whether to buy it or not.
Kindly address these issues ASAP, as I had already made up my mind to go for HOX, so that I can buy one with relaxed mind...
I cant think of any other smartphones as of now.
Looking forward to your responses and future phone
debates on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Arun J
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I have One X and I'm really happy with this beast ! No Problem at all
Very Fast, Huge Screen with unbelievable quality (Tegra 3 games are soo perfect), before i Had GS2 Note iPhone4 GS1, Evo3D etc... but this phone is simply amazing...
I had Overheat with some games on GS2 too... so i don't think this is an hardware issue (my opinion), Music quality is brilliant, camera is very very fast and many opportunities (HDR, Panorama, Slow motion record etc).
The only thing that i would say this phone is poor, is battery, it's not too bad, not too good ... In future we will have customs Kernels so i don't mind...
Hope I helped you
silenced3 said:
Try the S3 in the meanwhile..spend some time with it. S3 put me off primarily because of the looks.. Other things apart, One X is a more premium looking phone and for me this is a very important factor. Keep visiting your nearest retailer and see if the SH25 or HT25 series has arrived. This batch seems to be the best of the lot .. Holding back a month or so will really pay off in the end.
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I've been waiting for 3 weeks now, impatiance is growing inside me, but i guess its wise to wait n watch for another 1 month..:-(
Do you any info, wheather HTC have responded officially regarding these glitches...will they cover all issues through the updates alone or any fresh batches of HOX can be expected?
Also, is it possible to know the batch name/code, from the box itself(without opening the box), if yesm kindly let me know how...
arunjnair said:
I've been waiting for 3 weeks now, impatiance is growing inside me, but i guess its wise to wait n watch for another 1 month..:-(
Do you any info, wheather HTC have responded officially regarding these glitches...will they cover all issues through the updates alone or any fresh batches of HOX can be expected?
Also, is it possible to know the batch name/code, from the box itself(without opening the box), if yesm kindly let me know how...
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I am sure HTC is looking into these issues very seriously. They are getting a lot of bad press. When I went to the service center yesterday, I met 4 people who had different problems related to WiFi, over heating, display etc.
There is a way to identify the batch. There is a white label on the box that states the device's IMEI number and serial number (S/N). Look out for the serial number.. if it starts with a "SH25" or "HT25"..you should be good to go!
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I am sure HTC is looking into these issues very seriously. They are getting a lot of bad press. When I went to the service center yesterday, I met 4 people who had different problems related to WiFi, over heating, display etc.
There is a way to identify the batch. There is a white label on the box that states the device's IMEI number and serial number (S/N). Look out for the serial number.. if it starts with a "SH25" or "HT25"..you should be good to go!
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That info abt S/N was really helpful.
I talked with a retailer over here, and they informed me they are having SH25 black model in stock currently.I guess the SH25 is Chineese model...
lemme go there, once again have the demo piece in my model, gotta check all the things acco to the thread which showed "how to check HOX while buying"...
BTW what du think about SH25...??
I think the recent batches of the One X have relatively lesser to no issues. The death grip will be resolved in the future batches and so the ones now in the Market will most probably have it.
Other than that, the heat is obvious, but you can't play games while charging as the battery gets over heated. Also the screen flickering issues and all other issues have been resolved in the new test build 2.05 and that will be coming to us with some more improvements as well pretty soon. So most of the issues are resolved as well... I think you can go for it... You will not regret it.....
One issue is that you will face is the battery backup is not as good as the S3 but you can get through easily one day with moderate use.
Moderate Use: 3G data on full time, Auto Sync ON, FB whatsapp chatting youtube and so on for 1 hour(3G usage), calls for 1 hour, music for 2 hours.
I feel this is the best device on the market despite what the S3 lovers say... She is a beauty....
Update: I have not checked for the deathgrip issue as 90 percent of the time my phone is on 3G and I have little screen brightness adjustment bug visible when the brightness is really low.. But otherwise no issues what so ever.... I am having the HT24 model and no issues other than the deathgrip.
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I think the recent batches of the One X have relatively lesser to no issues. The death grip will be resolved in the future batches and so the ones now in the Market will most probably have it.
Other than that, the heat is obvious, but you can't play games while charging as the battery gets over heated. Also the screen flickering issues and all other issues have been resolved in the new test build 2.05 and that will be coming to us with some more improvements as well pretty soon. So most of the issues are resolved as well... I think you can go for it... You will not regret it.....
One issue is that you will face is the battery backup is not as good as the S3 but you can get through easily one day with moderate use.
Moderate Use: 3G data on full time, Auto Sync ON, FB whatsapp chatting youtube and so on for 1 hour(3G usage), calls for 1 hour, music for 2 hours.
I feel this is the best device on the market despite what the S3 lovers say... She is a beauty....
Update: I have not checked for the deathgrip issue as 90 percent of the time my phone is on 3G and I have little screen brightness adjustment bug visible when the brightness is really low.. But otherwise no issues what so ever.... I am having the HT24 model and no issues other than the deathgrip.
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Heating issue is not a big issue, i guess, untill its safe to handle(till 45-50C)....n also, i'm a moderate user, mainly for music n camera....
can you pls tell me from where you bought your HOX(retailer n address)..
I'll checking out once again the demo model from the retailer in coming days, i'll keep you guys posted what I obvserved....
arunjnair said:
That info abt S/N was really helpful.
I talked with a retailer over here, and they informed me they are having SH25 black model in stock currently.I guess the SH25 is Chineese model...
lemme go there, once again have the demo piece in my model, gotta check all the things acco to the thread which showed "how to check HOX while buying"...
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SH25 should be good... i think you can go ahead and buy it.. just dont root it and use it as much as possible for a good 7 days... just in case you face any issues declare the phone DOA by going to your nearest HTC service center within 7-14 days of purchase (earlier the better).. then you can get a replacement from the store that you brought the phone from.. alternatively just ask for a credit note from the store and wait out a month for the storm to pass
Although its very unlikely that you will face any issues with the SH25 model..Good luck!
Since HTC claims it's a software issue that will be fixed in v4.3
Here's with the HTC built in Camera (I didn't wait very long, but it quickly went from bad to worse once the photo was taken)
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dacf9/2/2/9/9/7/2/9/2013-10-03_07.39.30.jpg
And here's with the Google Camera apk (the photosphere capable one).
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dad38/2/2/9/9/7/3/0/2013-10-03_07.39.55.jpg
The problem persists (I waited longer, that's why it looks worse), so whatever "software" issue is going on, it's definitely not contained to just the camera app. it's deeper inside the phone. Unfortunately, this just makes me even more sure that it's a hardware problem.
I think the crop of the picture makes a difference too. I have some examples to share...
This picture was taken with the HTC One camera in it's default camera mode. Not Zoe. You'll notice most of the issue is in the bottom right hand corner.
September 30, 2013 105807 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
HTC recommended I try third-party apps. Here is one I had gotten from Amazon. CameraZoom FX. You'll notice there is a bit of the blue discoloration in the bottom right.
September 30, 2013 105704 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
Now this third picture is back to using the HTC Camera.. however, I changed the crop to regular. It's a software setting in the non-Zoe mode. You'll notice that the blue is still there, but it's much less. Mostly, I would imagine, because the part that wants to discolor is off of the screen.
September 30, 2013 105851 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
Finally, here is a picture taken in Instagram. An even tighter crop and the discoloration is less noticable, but still there. And the out of focus thing is something I've been getting with this too.
September 30, 2013 110222 PM EDT by one4thewings, on Flickr
It's definitely not a situation in which a third party software will fix it. But neither did the 4.3 update if early reports are to be believed.
I know it may be a long shot but 4.3 may fix it. I was on a Droid3 and all of the user had a "blue" tint issue. This issue was visible not matter which Application was used to take pictures. I also part of both SOAK tests, and it is a little fuzzy at this point but one of the OTAs made huge improvements with this issue. It went away totally on my phone. So lets hope HTC can find a fix in the ROM code, and more importantly Verizon does not hold 4.3 hostage for 2 months of testing.
Might this be as simple as the plastic piece that covers the lens? Anyone have the balls to remove it to try?
It just seems odd that when I zoom in (even though the zoom is digital), the issue gets better..
So what do I do? Exchange phone for a new one?
thankfully for all of us on VZW, we're well within the warranty period so getting the phone replaced isn't really a hassle, especially if you go to the corporate store to get the replacement shipped. those guys work commission and will do whatever they need to do to get you out of the door, including sending your replacement without asking a lot of questions and asking you to reset the whole damn phone for nothing
TidusWulf said:
thankfully for all of us on VZW, we're well within the warranty period so getting the phone replaced isn't really a hassle, especially if you go to the corporate store to get the replacement shipped. those guys work commission and will do whatever they need to do to get you out of the door, including sending your replacement without asking a lot of questions and asking you to reset the whole damn phone for nothing
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unless you are already s-off from sonic, then it is a big hassle.
TidusWulf said:
Since HTC claims it's a software issue that will be fixed in v4.3
Here's with the HTC built in Camera (I didn't wait very long, but it quickly went from bad to worse once the photo was taken)
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dacf9/2/2/9/9/7/2/9/2013-10-03_07.39.30.jpg
And here's with the Google Camera apk (the photosphere capable one).
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...24dad38/2/2/9/9/7/3/0/2013-10-03_07.39.55.jpg
The problem persists (I waited longer, that's why it looks worse), so whatever "software" issue is going on, it's definitely not contained to just the camera app. it's deeper inside the phone. Unfortunately, this just makes me even more sure that it's a hardware problem.
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I posted yesterday in the forum where someone asked if the camera issue could be solved by heat that I posted a question to the sprint users that received 4.3 to see if the issue was corrected and they said no. It's a little better but still very noticeable. Booooo
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unless you are already s-off from sonic, then it is a big hassle.
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Yep. My phone is to be delivered back from Sonic with s-off so I'm stuck with it I guess. I was talking to a guy on here yesterday and he said when he sent his in to be repaired with s-off they charged him £160 to replace the whole board in the phone. F that. I'll just deal with it. We shouldn't have to, especially since htc had several months to correct the issue before our variant launched, but it is what it is. It blows.
I've been jumping through HTC's hoops. Doing the different tasks they've required of me to resolve my camera issues.... finally, I got this answer last night. And I am not amused.
HTC Support said:
In this case, I would like to recommend you to go ahead and for the meantime use the third party camera in order to take the pictures you desire. I understand this is an inconvenience with your device and this will not allow you to use to the fullest the camera application on your device.
Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience you have experienced and appreciate your patience as we work quickly to investigate this matter. In some instances, we may be able to deploy a software update to address an issue. We recommend you regularly check your device for updates and download them when available.
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I've been jumping through HTC's hoops. Doing the different tasks they've required of me to resolve my camera issues.... finally, I got this answer last night. And I am not amused.
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Well that's great HTC "support". Basically, "Okay we know there's an issue but don't know the cause and rather than us give you some definitive information on what we plan to do to remedy the problem... Just use another camera app. Bc we couldn't give 2 ****s. Thanks for contacting HTC!"
BreakingVZW said:
Well that's great HTC "support". Basically, "Okay we know there's an issue but don't know the cause and rather than us give you some definitive information on what we plan to do to remedy the problem... Just use another camera app. Bc we couldn't give 2 ****s. Thanks for contacting HTC!"
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After a week of this back and forth I finally cracked and responded in a sarcastic manner.
So the fix for my faulty HTC One camera is to use a third-party software that still demonstrates the camera flaw - just to a lesser degree? Perhaps I am asking too much that my one month old phone be right when I purchase it but I'll play along. Could you please recommend a third-party camera application that features the ZOE software? The face swap is nice, I suppose, but it's unnecessary in my case. So pointing me toward an application that can performs ZOE functionality would be appreciated. An added bonus would be an app that auto-corrects the odd tinting issue, but I understand that one might be a pipe dream.
Your assistance is appreciated.
Signed, Me, the customer, the most important part of HTC.
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That last part, is something that they've included in all of their customer support emails.
"Remember you are the most important part of HTC and I want to thank you for your continuous support of our products and services."
one4thewings said:
After a week of this back and forth I finally cracked and responded in a sarcastic manner.
So the fix for my faulty HTC One camera is to use a third-party software that still demonstrates the camera flaw - just to a lesser degree? Perhaps I am asking too much that my one month old phone be right when I purchase it but I'll play along. Could you please recommend a third-party camera application that features the ZOE software? The face swap is nice, I suppose, but it's unnecessary in my case. So pointing me toward an application that can performs ZOE functionality would be appreciated. An added bonus would be an app that auto-corrects the odd tinting issue, but I understand that one might be a pipe dream.
Your assistance is appreciated.
Signed, Me, the customer, the most important part of HTC.
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That last part, is something that they've included in all of their customer support emails.
"Remember you are the most important part of HTC and I want to thank you for your continuous support of our products and services."
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Lol NICE ! :good:
If you talk to them again mention that based on a poll on XDA 85% of HTC One owners have this issue.
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If you talk to them again mention that based on a poll on XDA 85% of HTC One owners have this issue.
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I should have looked at this before responding.
This was the latest I got from them:
The option to download a third party app for your camera was to check if you were able to use your camera, not the Zoe feature, without any issue while we work, develop, and deploy the software update to have the issue with your camera resolved. I understand you want to enjoy the full features of your HTC One, like for example Zoe, and that this issue is causing you an inconvenience which is not allowing you to do so and for that I would like to offer my sincere apologies.
I have noticed that as we continue down this road that my tech support guy, Alejandro, is growing less proficient with English. I guess we're moving away from the pre-designed conversation templates.
I replied with this.
So this is a known issue? And a solution is being developed to address the camera issues? I would like additional information about this please.
I'll toss your percentage into my next message, since I'm absolutely certain that we'll not have this resolved in the immediate future and I'm sure not clicking the "I am satisfied with my problem resolution and would like to close my ticket" link.
one4thewings said:
I should have looked at this before responding.
This was the latest I got from them:
The option to download a third party app for your camera was to check if you were able to use your camera, not the Zoe feature, without any issue while we work, develop, and deploy the software update to have the issue with your camera resolved. I understand you want to enjoy the full features of your HTC One, like for example Zoe, and that this issue is causing you an inconvenience which is not allowing you to do so and for that I would like to offer my sincere apologies.
I have noticed that as we continue down this road that my tech support guy, Alejandro, is growing less proficient with English. I guess we're moving away from the pre-designed conversation templates.
I replied with this.
So this is a known issue? And a solution is being developed to address the camera issues? I would like additional information about this please.
I'll toss your percentage into my next message, since I'm absolutely certain that we'll not have this resolved in the immediate future and I'm sure not clicking the "I am satisfied with my problem resolution and would like to close my ticket" link.
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See the thing about their "while we work to resolve this issue with a software update" is... They didn't resolve it. The 4.3 update for sprint users didn't fix it. So I'll believe htc when we get the update and see it has, in fact, been resolved. I'm not holding my breath though.
I should have done what Sonic did and went back to verizon and had them bring out handset after handset until they got me one without the issue. I just don't have time to mess with Verizon in store for 79 hours. The average trip to verizon for me is roughly 2 hours bc I think some of their associates have severe learning disabilities. I had to show the lady how to do this upgrade on HER computer. She couldn't figure it out. It was ridiculous.
Yeah that's part of my concern too. how many dozens of mailed-warranty-replacements would I have to go thru until I get one that doesn't have the issue
Hey, I just got off the phone with a customer rep with LG.
I told him about the visible touch matrix, yellow tinted screen, and the hair line cracks I'm starting to get for no reason. I also told him about the screen vertical line flickering issue with my phone on high brightness. Thankfully, the man seemed very nice and it seemed like they are willing to fix the phone free of charge. Just repair only.
So what I was wondering, with he digitizer issue so common and the hair line cracks, do the employees know and just are not admitting or do they actually not know anything?
Sent from my LG Gangster 3
Haven't noticed any of the faults You described on mine G3 (D855). Bad unit maybe? Mine's going really strong, nothing wrong with screen, no visible lags (after disabling thermal throttling in secret menu), battery life could be better (as always), otherwise, I've got no complaints.
My phone is nearly a week old now and i check for em cracks nearly every day. Without being offensive to anyone who works at customer service usually the people are completely clueless when it comes to things. It is just like people who sell pcs in my country and phones they usually have not much of a clue. Saw a guy selling phones the other day a woman asked him where the sd slot is and he seemed helpless. Ahaha..
My guess is someone somewhere at lg knows but not all of them are informed.
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helikido said:
Hey, I just got off the phone with a customer rep with LG.
I told him about the visible touch matrix, yellow tinted screen, and the hair line cracks I'm starting to get for no reason. I also told him about the screen vertical line flickering issue with my phone on high brightness. Thankfully, the man seemed very nice and it seemed like they are willing to fix the phone free of charge. Just repair only.
So what I was wondering, with he digitizer issue so common and the hair line cracks, do the employees know and just are not admitting or do they actually not know anything?
Sent from my LG Gangster 3
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Even if LG knew, their customer service reps would be instructed to not give any sign that anything was wrong. The last thing a company wants to do is promote that there may be a problem with a product they make. They only admit it when they have to.
But I don't think there is anything wrong with these phones, we've already established in other threads that you're too picky.
bigkevbosky said:
Even if LG knew, their customer service reps would be instructed to not give any sign that anything was wrong. The last thing a company wants to do is promote that there may be a problem with a product they make. They only admit it when they have to.
But I don't think there is anything wrong with these phones, we've already established in other threads that you're too picky.
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I would think that anyone with a problem screen or especially a cracked casing has every right to complain and they are far from being picky.
I will add that I have no problems that I can see with the hardware of my G3, software wise I think it could be a little faster but that screen is something that has to be seen to be appreciated. I was a bit sceptical about how much better the screen could be over my M8 or Nokia 1520 but it really is.
It's gotta be said, and please remember, I'm only joking, but you probably cooked your poor phone with all those disabled high temperature settings.
On a serious note, I've not had any of the problems that you are reporting either. And as I said in one of the threads all those settings are already disabled on the v10j rom I'm running.
They arent issues, it's just how it has been built.
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I would think that anyone with a problem screen or especially a cracked casing has every right to complain and they are far from being picky.
I will add that I have no problems that I can see with the hardware of my G3, software wise I think it could be a little faster but that screen is something that has to be seen to be appreciated. I was a bit sceptical about how much better the screen could be over my M8 or Nokia 1520 but it really is.
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helikido is actually on his 3rd or 4th or maybe 15th G3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/t-mobile-hard-time-t2849022
He is being picky.
bigkevbosky said:
helikido is actually on his 3rd or 4th or maybe 15th G3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/t-mobile-hard-time-t2849022
He is being picky.
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Damn!! I mean...DAMN! All these issues, plus the other numerous posts, yet he STILL has the G3? "Things that Make you go hmmm"
Some people don't realize when there are a million of one thing made, there are bound to be faulty ****. The only prob I've had as of yet is it's hard to plug in the usb some times other then that this is one hell of a sexy phone
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Damn!! I mean...DAMN! All these issues, plus the other numerous posts, yet he STILL has the G3? "Things that Make you go hmmm"
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Simply put, I want to get a phone that stands out from the crowd and is unique to itself. The G3 is exactly that. At the same time I willing acknowledged that the first batch of phones may be faulty but I bought it with the intention that if any are faulty I will just exchange the phone until I get a proper functioning one. But right now I have decided to wait it out a couple of months until I send it in to LG, so that they have time to work out all the production issues.
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helikido is actually on his 3rd or 4th or maybe 15th G3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/t-mobile-hard-time-t2849022
He is being picky.
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3rd G3. The first one had dust under the display. The 2nd one was faulty right out of the box on the counter. I didn't even have to tell the employees anything. The third I got stuck with a yellow tint display.
So I basically exchanged my phone once legitly if you don't count the one that was faulty out of the box. Now stop staying stupid BS like I'm being picky and start doing your own damn research. Allot of people are having the cracks on the side issue....all it is, is just a simple Google search. And I obviously am not the only one to have a display with a yellow tint and visible digitizer. Allot of people have reported it. Lets not be ignorant.
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So I basically exchanged my phone once legitly if you don't count the one that was faulty out of the box. Now stop staying stupid BS like I'm being picky and start doing your own damn research. Allot of people are having the cracks on the side issue....all it is, is just a simple Google search. And I obviously am not the only one to have a display with a yellow tint and visible digitizer. Allot of people have reported it. Lets not be ignorant.
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I'll make you a deal, I'll stop calling you picky if you stop creating threads like this about your personal issues with the G3. We all get it, you had issues. No need to keep creating new threads whining about it.
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I'll make you a deal, I'll stop calling you picky if you stop creating threads like this about your personal issues with the G3. We all get it, you had issues. No need to keep creating new threads whining about it.
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What my threads are doing is helping people become aware that they potentially may have faulty devices. And if they do nothing about it well....$600 down the drain?
You obviously don't know anything about mechanical devices.....even the slightest issues and improper manufacturing can affect the life of your device. And if my thread helps people become aware of issues that are present and may become worse, I'm perfectly happy. Unlike you I willingly acknowledge that my G3 and so many others are having issues. But that does not mean I get to bash it. Just make people awareth that the issue exist so they don't flip out.
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Hey, I just got off the phone with a customer rep with LG.
I told him about the visible touch matrix, yellow tinted screen, and the hair line cracks I'm starting to get for no reason. I also told him about the screen vertical line flickering issue with my phone on high brightness. Thankfully, the man seemed very nice and it seemed like they are willing to fix the phone free of charge. Just repair only.
So what I was wondering, with he digitizer issue so common and the hair line cracks, do the employees know and just are not admitting or do they actually not know anything?
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Stop moaning and get on with it.
There's no matrix or screen texture. The problem with these phones is with lag and stutter not screen texture.
Maybe there's a few quality controls issues but I'd guess LG don't care too much as the G3 is..."outselling the S5 three to one..."
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/27/lg-g3-review-the-best-phablet-to-date
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jetsetwilly said:
Maybe there's a few quality controls issues but I'd guess LG don't care too much as the G3 is..."outselling the S5 three to one..."
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/aug/27/lg-g3-review-the-best-phablet-to-date
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That is one of the dumbest statistics I've seen... it is selling 3x more than a phone that was released earlier in ONE country.
The G3 is expected to sell about 10M overall, which is good - but a heck of a lot LESS than the samsung...
Selling 3x more my arse. Lol.
I guess the cavaet was in South Korea. I missed that bit off
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Don't get me wrong, though. I like my G3 much more than the couple of S5s I tried.
hellokitty goes cry cry again. LOL
even if it reaches the 100th exchange phone you aren't going to give up on G3 right? hahaha
common sense to do for us is if we still get a faulty unit on the 3rd exchange then we will ask for a refund to buy another phone and not be a crybaby here in the forum, thus end of story.
most of the people here have got good units. you seem to be the luckiest when it comes to defects be it real,nitpicked,imagined or hallucination. lol
Can I mod lock this it going to go south real fast