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Both browsers on my Tilt2 (IE and Opera) seem to have some serious problems where the screen is at times unresponsive or extremely slow. This seems to happen in 3G and Wifi.
Actually, I saw these types of problems in a review at: http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/htc-tilt-2/10602.html which said: "Nowhere did the HTC Tilt 2 give us more trouble than in the browsers. Both the standard Internet Explorer browser and the Opera Mobile browser gave us serious trouble, with an unresponsive screen that always took numerous taps to register a click on a Web link. It was a very strange issue, as finger scrolling was much more responsive. But when we wanted to click on a link, or when we wanted to tap the address bar to change our URL, the phone would require multiple taps, which was a seriously annoying issue."
Have others experienced this? Is the phone a complete lemon? Is anyone aware of a what could be wrong and/or a fix?
Experiencing the exact same thing.
At stock, don't expect the TP2 to run flawlessly, and this device is certainly not a lemon. Flashing a custom rom to this device improves its usability, and even functionality in some areas, But of course, it depends on the rom that is installed. It would help to scour these forums as there are numerous fixes and enhancements for the WM platform that'll make you enjoy it
I am not expecting it to run flawlessly. I assume, as you are with T Mobile, that you do not have the Tilt2. My experience with the Tilt2 is that both browsers are just non-functional given the complete lack of responsiveness. I understand that there are many things that can be done to it, but it seems like it should simply not be operating like this out of the gate. I would be pleased to do what I can to increase performance, but purchasing a new product that is not functional with the goal of enhancing performance should not be acceptable. Please understand, that out of the box when I click on a link many times it simply does not work and when it does, it often takes minutes to connect (in some cases worse than a throw back to dial-up connection speeds). If this is what Windows Mobile has come to, as a consumer device it really will continue to become obsolete with a very small user base. I am hopeful that it is not WinMo as I have had Pocket PCs since they came out and hope to remain faithfull.
That said, I have done a considerable amount of searching in the forum. If there is something you would recommend for this specific browser issue, I would very much appreciate the reference. Thanks.
While I wouldn't say that Opera is "unusable", it's definitely slow. I've read on the forums that Opera Mobile 9.7, which is currently in beta, seems to be significantly faster. Though, it lacks Flash if you care about that sort of thing.
I haven't tried it yet but it seems like a worthwhile shot.
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While I wouldn't say that Opera is "unusable", it's definitely slow. I've read on the forums that Opera Mobile 9.7, which is currently in beta, seems to be significantly faster. Though, it lacks Flash if you care about that sort of thing.
I haven't tried it yet but it seems like a worthwhile shot.
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Do any of guys use skyfire(this by far the best option), also check the proxy setup, Third just heads up, when I was selecting diferent option packages from ATT they initially screwed up my data connect and I was getting block out of there proxy, once this was corrected all is well but Skyfire is still the best released product.
Skyfire works, but its not very clear unless you zoom in. I have Opera beta but you can't use the zoom slider and its only marginally better.
Iris (God rest its soul) is okay but its not fast either. I wonders why none of them are cutting the mustard.
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Do any of guys use skyfire(this by far the best option), also check the proxy setup, Third just heads up, when I was selecting diferent option packages from ATT they initially screwed up my data connect and I was getting block out of there proxy, once this was corrected all is well but Skyfire is still the best released product.
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I prefer not to use Skyfire because it's completely insecure. I went to my fantasy football website and found some other user's session logged in. Had I wanted to be a jerk, I could have dropped all of his good players and replaced them with players from the Detroit Lions.
Seriously, though...if you use Skyfire be very careful what sites you visit as all of the data is rendered remotely and will be seen by others.
CAVEAT before I begin: I had pretty good connection with Opera (on 3G) out of the box.
As others have said on this thread, first thing is to disable the AT&T proxy (Start\Tools\Proxy Manager\Disable Proxy -- then soft reset), unless you want to use AT&T's Media Mall and other bloatware that requires an Internet connection.
In Opera the proxy still sticks unless you manually edit the opera.ini file. See this post here for instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4771442#post4771442
I had to do this, or Opera would not connect at all under Wi-Fi. Speed also seems to be improved.
It sounds, though, that you're speaking more about screen sensitivity. It seems that you have to zoom in more (than on a Fuze, at least) to get a link to actually respond when touched. This may sound simplistic, but note that when the Tilt2 boots up for the first time (or after hard reset), it does not run through the screen-alignment process as the fuze and other phones do. Go to Start\Settings\System\Screen and do the alignment -- it helped a bit on my phone. And every little bit counts...
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I've very disappointed with the AT&T Tilt 2. I've tried several ROMs but the MS IE is slow in all of them. In some of them the Opera gets download speeds of over 1000 kbps. However, the MS IE is usually down around 300 kbps.
This is unacceptable. I used the same sim in my original AT&T Tilt 1 and I get 1200 kbps. What gives??
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My experience with the Tilt2 is that both browsers are just non-functional given the complete lack of responsiveness.
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That's been my experience, too. Even with an excellent 3G connection (a megabit usually, or close to it, and sometimes better than that), and with the AT&T proxy disabled, both Opera and IE are utterly unusable on my Tilt 2 with WM 6.5.
And I can't blame Touch-flo. I don't even use it.
As a result, I run Skyfire as my default browser unless I'm in a place where I can't get a strong 3G signal. Then I switch to Opera Mini. Both are fast enough to keep me very happy.
I've wasted too much time trying to get Opera to do anything other than annoy me. Try some cooked ROMs, or switch. Otherwise, you're wasting your time.
i agree
I dont even bother to tap the links anymore, i navigate through them using the arrow keys and then press enter. I find them completely unresponsive to taps.
concur that the browsers suck
Too bad that there isn't a safari port....
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While I wouldn't say that Opera is "unusable", it's definitely slow. I've read on the forums that Opera Mobile 9.7, which is currently in beta, seems to be significantly faster. Though, it lacks Flash if you care about that sort of thing.
just bought mine yesterday and it is un-usable taking 20-30 min. to access and sign into my ebay account is pretty much un-usable. My 8925 wasn't the fastest but I coud access the web w/o taking 2-5 min per page. I took my iphone back thinking this would be atleast as good as or better than my 8925,boy was i wrong.And now they tell me I only get one return(iphone) so I am stuck with this beautiful p.o.s.
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i also experience problem with it. My experience seem to be that if I have both IE and opera running together, it will cause the unit not responsive. So far, I kind of stuck with IE as it seem to work better than opear.
Try the Opera 10 Beta, it is masses better than Opera 9 as far as interface experience and speed. never liked IE mobile and skyfire has potential but still feels unfinished.
Opera 10 has a really nice tabbed browsing system and is finger friendly. haven't seen any responsiveness issues. The other thing to consider is what else you are running in background, is Opera 9 still running in background? it could be slowing everything else down.
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My browser will only let me open 4 pages. Why is this, any ideas? To prevent excessive memory usage?
I remember reading somewhere that it has something to do with how thumbnails are displayed.
The only way around it is installing an alternative browser like Opera Mini, Dolphin, Steel, etc.
Though I don't see why would you need more that a couple of tabs open on a phone.
Well I do seem to need more than 4 tabs open, just habit I suppose...
I have used Steel and Dolphin before, but I'm really liking the built-in browser, apart from a couple of niggles - the second one being that when long-pressing a link (to bring up the "open in new window" menu), half the time it launches the text highlighting tool :-(
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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Well I do seem to need more than 4 tabs open, just habit I suppose...
I have used Steel and Dolphin before, but I'm really liking the built-in browser, apart from a couple of niggles - the second one being that when long-pressing a link (to bring up the "open in new window" menu), half the time it launches the text highlighting tool :-(
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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Might want to calibrate the screen?
I'm also finding that after browsing for a while, the browser will refuse to open a new page at all, it seems to start loading the new page, then stops loading part-way through.
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I'm also finding that after browsing for a while, the browser will refuse to open a new page at all, it seems to start loading the new page, then stops loading part-way through.
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This problem is now starting to really bug me.
I'm browsing for half an hour or so, and then the browser will just freeze up, and refuse to completely load the current page, links won't work, bookmarks won't open. Clearing the cache doesn't fix the problem, and since there's no way to exit the browser then I'm having to reboot the phone.
Anyone else suffering this way?
setspeed said:
This problem is now starting to really bug me.
I'm browsing for half an hour or so, and then the browser will just freeze up, and refuse to completely load the current page, links won't work, bookmarks won't open. Clearing the cache doesn't fix the problem, and since there's no way to exit the browser then I'm having to reboot the phone.
Anyone else suffering this way?
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Hi
I have the similar issue, but it appears only when I switch from Wifi to mobile connection. The only solution I've found is kill browser. Can you please check if it's the same at your side ? if yes it's propably bug in web browser app, because market and everything else is working fine.
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I have the similar issue, but it appears only when I switch from Wifi to mobile connection. The only solution I've found is kill browser. Can you please check if it's the same at your side ? if yes it's propably bug in web browser app, because market and everything else is working fine.
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No, it's happening to me whether I'm on wifi or 3G (and not switching between the two). I don't have a task manager installed to kill the browser, so I'm having to reboot. Very annoying.
Also another persistent problem is that sometimes the browser will just quit with no warning, when clicking links. It's happened about 6 or 7 times, during (estimated) 4 or 5hrs browsing. When you restart the browser any open windows you had are gone.
I'm not at all impressed with the lack of stability of this browser. I know I could use Steel or Dolphin (with no Flash) instead.
I'm getting a replacement tomorrow, due to the "pink screen" issue, so I'm hoping this handset I have now is just a lemon.
Sadly, I'm thinking maybe they will all be the same. These issues, along with the poor calibration/recognition of where my finger is on the touchscreen sometimes, and the lack of a physical keyboard, are starting to make me re-think my decision about getting this phone.
Even more sadly, my friend's iPhones are looking increasingly more and more attractive :-(
If you don't mind for not having Flash (like iPhone), then you can download "Opera Mini 5" from the Market.
It is much faster and probably will give you better browsing experience.
I am using it for my WM device for years and cannot live without it.
The speed is just so damn fast!
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No, it's happening to me whether I'm on wifi or 3G (and not switching between the two). I don't have a task manager installed to kill the browser, so I'm having to reboot. Very annoying.
Also another persistent problem is that sometimes the browser will just quit with no warning, when clicking links. It's happened about 6 or 7 times, during (estimated) 4 or 5hrs browsing. When you restart the browser any open windows you had are gone.
I'm not at all impressed with the lack of stability of this browser. I know I could use Steel or Dolphin (with no Flash) instead.
I'm getting a replacement tomorrow, due to the "pink screen" issue, so I'm hoping this handset I have now is just a lemon.
Sadly, I'm thinking maybe they will all be the same. These issues, along with the poor calibration/recognition of where my finger is on the touchscreen sometimes, and the lack of a physical keyboard, are starting to make me re-think my decision about getting this phone.
Even more sadly, my friend's iPhones are looking increasingly more and more attractive :-(
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Hi all,
Wondered if anyone else had this problem occur or knows what is causing it, browser was fine yesterday, but this morning when starting to type in the search box on google mobile search page the characters appear, then after about a second they get hidden with a dot, like I am entering a password or something like in the attached screenshot, and it's really starting to annoy me.
It's ok if I switch to one of the other available searches like image or places search, only happening on the web search page.
I've tried switching to a different keyboard, clearing all histories/caches etc, and it's still doing it, any ideas anyone ?
same problem here..it appeared after i flashed a new ROM (RCMix S v09)..not a big problem though, since theres a search button on the desire...but still wondering what causes this bug
use opera it is way better than embedded browser
Thanks Salahfathi, not after another browser though, don't use it enough to warrant installing another one, I find the original one perfect for my use, would just like to get rid of the little annoyance in the first post.
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Know bug, reported by other users, as well.
Follow the threads, they are working on a fix.
OK - the odd thing about this is that my wife started experiencing this on her unrooted, stock froyo wildfire yesterday. One minute normal, next minute like a password. My desire is not showing this behaviour.
Now that suggests to me something is happening that is not rom dependent?!!!
Hi, i'm facing a really annoying problem.
My browser takes ages to load a page. I mean, the top div gets loaded very fast (as you expect) but the rest takes about 1 minute or more to load the rest of the page.
I have this strange problem only if working in my notebook. With my mobile everything works like a charm.
Is someone in the same situation?
Is XDA doing some maintenance stuff or something?
Thanks
Was having this issue yesterday during work but today it seems to be gone. Could have been an issue with something down the line (DNS, regional routing, whatever) that just caused a temporary slow down.
Short answer is no you aren't alone. Should be gone by now or soon.
I hope so, thanks
i have the same problem
I think I found a solution (even if it is not absolute).
Go to you profile page and set the sytle (at the bottom of the page) at xda classic
Now try to navigate... it is as fast as it should be.
At least, it is for me!
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Hi, i'm facing a really annoying problem.
My browser takes ages to load a page. I mean, the top div gets loaded very fast (as you expect) but the rest takes about 1 minute or more to load the rest of the page.
I have this strange problem only if working in my notebook. With my mobile everything works like a charm.
Is someone in the same situation?
Is XDA doing some maintenance stuff or something?
Thanks
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Yesterday in particular the site was slow because we had processed some upgrades that didn't go quite right. Things should be good now.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm still having the problem.
However, I tries my "solution" on another machine, and it works too.
If it can help other user, you can add to FAQ main page.
I hope it's only a matter of time as the 2010 theme is really pretty. The classic one is just a little bit... old-fashioned.
so many background scripts running, because too much function and too much rules.
post limit to access certain service, wth....
i got bugs to inform the developer but ending to make several useless posts here first.
xD
If xda very slow, be patient!
works well for me
I think i didn't get your point...
I just tried to understand what is happening here...
I also found out that changing theme speed-up the loading process, and i want to share this with other user that are having these same issue... if you want to wait ages to check a page you are free to do so, but please leave other do what they prefer!!
It occurred to me quite often in the last months but, probably, I was "great" enough to decide loading xda when they perform the maintenance of the forum...
Today i noticed a very slow loading here...
I checked my ping and noticed that everytime i open XDA my ping goes from 20ms to 1500-2000, even after not loading any threads and leaving the PC alone for many minutes. When i close XDA, ping goes down to normal.
Please fix it. Maybe some buggy ads or something else.
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Please fix it. Maybe some buggy ads or something else.
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I think it's media.xda-forum-com... My browsers goes stuck right there.
also cdn.viglink.com is blocking for a long time
Can you please fix it?
Fix available (at least for me):
change DNS in your router config to the ones offered by opendns...
Now everything works like a charm.
i shouldn't have posted this here! just notice what section I was in (found this thread in a search)
i'm using ie9 and when i post a reply(not quick reply) and I try to click my mouse pointer in between letters of the words I type, the mouse pointer is not displayed.
Hi,
for some time now, I can't access https://www.xda-developers.com on two different Windows machines with firefox. Trying to access the site, I will see the black bar at the top for a second or so, then the screen just turns white and firefox keeps loading to death.
Works with chrome on the phone, though. Would anybody know what might be the issue here?
Having the same problem on my PC, using Waterfox. Can load the forums but not the main site.
Updated to the latest version of WaterFox and can view the site again.
Hello
I write to Webmaster XDA and he was experiencing an DDoS attack. Now is resolved.
Best Regards
How come XDA is so slow in general?
Long ping time when clicking on a link on the site or loading a new page? Long loading times etc.
I know Leaseweb is fast because I have dealt with them in the past...but its only XDA that I find very slow to go to.
Sometimes the xda does not load and it could be the ddos as mentioned above.
But it cant have ddos attacks all the time?
The server admins have been doing a lot of work on this lately and the situation should be improving. Thank you for your patience.
Borked again for the last 2 days now.
Posted this in another thread because I didn't know where else to. Getting the same thing, some clicks are taking over 10s to even respond (they were upward of 25s yesterday). It's not a server problem, I'm 3ms to leasweb, even less to their cdn. Anything hitting that is fine.
It's like half the site is loading from India or they are having some serious capacity problems (cache hot requests fair better for example). With threads having hundreds if not thousands of pages, trying to read 8 at a time is atrocious.
Is RSS or something else available?
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Posted this in another thread because I didn't know where else to. Getting the same thing, some clicks are taking over 10s to even respond (they were upward of 25s yesterday). It's not a server problem, I'm 3ms to leasweb, even less to their cdn. Anything hitting that is fine.
It's like half the site is loading from India or they are having some serious capacity problems (cache hot requests fair better for example). With threads having hundreds if not thousands of pages, trying to read 8 at a time is atrocious.
Is RSS or something else available?
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Tapatalk or XDA Labs apps Are faster than browser s
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