Is there anyone who has made any headway in their research on cracking or unlocking the bootloader? My short research confirms that it is using a 256-bit encryption algorithm, but I've not identified the algorithm used, nor do I think it would matter, as I really have no intention of doing a cryptanalysis on something that strong and I doubt anyone else would, either. Out of curiousity, though: anyone know offhand?
I'm curious to know what methods you guys are attempting to employ and what, if any, other research has already been done. I'd like to help, where I can.
**** if i knew more about it id take a crack at it but unfortunately i lack the skills required. Guess its time to learn huh.
grayn0de said:
Is there anyone who has made any headway in their research on cracking or unlocking the bootloader? My short research confirms that it is using a 256-bit encryption algorithm, but I've not identified the algorithm used, nor do I think it would matter, as I really have no intention of doing a cryptanalysis on something that strong and I doubt anyone else would, either. Out of curiousity, though: anyone know offhand?
I'm curious to know what methods you guys are attempting to employ and what, if any, other research has already been done. I'd like to help, where I can.
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Vache and I worked on it yesterday for about 6 hours. We didn't get it cracked yet but we are making progress. Don't bother with trying to get your SBK (secure boot key) because A: you won't be able to crack the encryption & B: we have a "secret" way to extract it from the tablet (shhhhh!) (and no, we won't share it just yet, sorry )
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Vache and I worked on it yesterday for about 6 hours. We didn't get it cracked yet but we are making progress. Don't bother with trying to get your SBK (secure boot key) because A: you won't be able to crack the encryption & B: we have a "secret" way to extract it from the tablet (shhhhh!) (and no, we won't share it just yet, sorry )
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Ahh. Yes, it looks like I noticed vache's call for test in the ROOTED thread a bit late, sent him a PM a couple hours ago.
If you guys need another "Linux guy" or a fresh set of eyes, feel free to PM me. I'll keep poking about the system on my own, in the mean time, as well. Good luck on the research!
This is great news!
This is awesome. Keep up the good work.
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Vache and I worked on it yesterday for about 6 hours. We didn't get it cracked yet but we are making progress. Don't bother with trying to get your SBK (secure boot key) because A: you won't be able to crack the encryption & B: we have a "secret" way to extract it from the tablet (shhhhh!) (and no, we won't share it just yet, sorry )
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reallllyy appreciate the times you guys are putting into this.
I'm curious how the bootloader is different from the acer iconia a500? If it is not, couldn't we use the same technique from there?
will this thing never gonna get unlocked?
i think i should just sell that piece of ****
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will this thing never gonna get unlocked?
i think i should just sell that piece of ....
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Go for it, the Developers of the XDA community don't owe you anything and if this is how you are going to help (by complaining) then you are better off selling this wonderful device. Patience is a key thing with this device, just like the atrix its just a matter of time.
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I'm curious how the bootloader is different from the acer iconia a500? If it is not, couldn't we use the same technique from there?
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Yes, different bootloader, due to both having different versions of hc. The A100 is newer, has newer programming, and leaves us with a different place to start. I myself have tried putting every single script of my A100 into an emulator on my PC to attempt to "reverse engineer" the bootloader to try to decrypt it, but that was unsuccessful for many reasons.
ummmmm............ could you repeat that?
Rather new to androids but I would consider myself a Linux guru. I just picked up an A100 on an open box sale and I would like to get involved in cracking the bootloader on this device. I am a professional low level developer and I have contributed to the development of several major open source projects including Gentoo and Fedora.
I also own a new Samsung Nexus S. Whose working on this now? Is there anything you need help with?
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I also own a new Samsung Nexus S. Whose working on this now? Is there anything you need help with?
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Our biggest challenge with this device is the 256bit encrypted bootloader from hell.. if you know a cryptologist, or some one at acer, that would help a ton
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I tried not cracking the bootloader but loading a second init. This proved beyond my skills. I am more a infrastructure and SQL guy then developer.
I would love to have this thing cracked open but I must say with a few tweeks this is a fast stable tablet. I do not know what I would want changed other then the native bluetooth PAN menu.
I just received my a100 from best buy, order placed on black friday.
I would love to see the bootloader cracked.
Keep up the good work guys.
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I for one would love to see some development on the a100! If there is anything I can do to help just let me know. Im not a dev but I have been tinkering since ms-dos in 1982, and I am very eager to see some development on this tablet, especially usb host mode. good luck!!
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I tried not cracking the bootloader but loading a second init. This proved beyond my skills. I am more a infrastructure and SQL guy then developer.
I would love to have this thing cracked open but I must say with a few tweeks this is a fast stable tablet. I do not know what I would want changed other then the native bluetooth PAN menu.
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That's the route Im going as well, so far I've compiled 2nd-init and it runs, but it crashes right after initalizing the memory and reboots the tablet (I dont think I have the correct memory address of init for the hook to work properly so it reboots the device). I've also tried log's kexec hack and I dont think it works. Asks for a kernel to load, which I dont have but, I dont think our current kernel supports kexec, so a module would have to be compiled for it. Im no kernel developer (I understand how they work, and how to mod an existing one, but building onne from scratch not so much). With kexec, it requires a special kernel the starts up where your current kernel resides in memory, so it would be harder to get working than 2nd-init.
cracking the encryption
I am not sure what type of file this is but I am fairly experienced with cracking and have access to a small render farm with plenty of gpu power and john the ripper installed. I could give it a go at cracking the password. let me know if I can help.
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I am not sure what type of file this is but I am fairly experienced with cracking and have access to a small render farm with plenty of gpu power and john the ripper installed. I could give it a go at cracking the password. let me know if I can help.
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You can't really brute force this kind of thing, we need to use some sort of exploit, would take millions of years or something like that.
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You can't really brute force this kind of thing, we need to use some sort of exploit, would take millions of years or something like that.
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I have brute forced a lot before its worth a shot, I wouldn't say its our best shot but it's worth a look and gives me something to occupy my time.
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i know there isnt a root for the evo with 2.3 yet but im just curious why not
If you think you can do it..by all means...it takes a lot of work to find a root. Ways that use to work get fixed by companies...basically it boils down to detective work which cannot have a time table and takes a incredible amount of patience and brainpower..along with luck. Basically it boils down to finding a exploit...a way to somehow get foot in door...then once that is done...exploring the exploit for options to elevate privileges to get temp or permanent root. How they do this takes time..and a lot of tinkering. And once the root method is out...companies fix it and the game starts all over again.
ok cus i was just wondering if htc blocked it for some reason
Companies do block it..but mostly for security reasons..the same exploits used for rooting also can be used for malware and some nasty other type of software...spyware and so on.
ok thanks i was under the assumption that thats the best part of android, to you know mess with it and mold it and hack it .....thats why android is suppose to be better then apple as well as different....oh well we cant have everything
thanks for clearing it up though
as its been said, this stuff takes time, and luck, and sometimes not even that works,,
i believe they have made some progress, monitor the irc channel yourself during nights and you can see some chatter about it, but it looks like its not quite ready and/or stable as of yet, though i hear the hboot problem has already been beaten...
we shall see, just be patient and try to not make the mods work more by asking this questions in a separate thread, you could have very well asked this in one of the other ones talking about this
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ok thanks i was under the assumption that thats the best part of android, to you know mess with it and mold it and hack it .....thats why android is suppose to be better then apple as well as different....oh well we cant have everything
thanks for clearing it up though
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I wouldn't call it a part of Android since every non-Nexus/dev Android phones required the exploitation of the software for root to be possible.
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Actually I think its all non samsung phones. But of course I could be totally wrong.
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ok thanks i was under the assumption that thats the best part of android, to you know mess with it and mold it and hack it .....thats why android is suppose to be better then apple as well as different....oh well we cant have everything
thanks for clearing it up though
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Android itself is open, but any phone that the carriers and manufacturers have control over generally gets locked down. The Nexus phones are the notable exception, and are intended for use by developers and tinkerers. In particular, the bootloader is locked down to prevent you from tinkering. However, there's been a big push to get manufacturers to release their phones in way where the bootloader can easily be unlocked. Many have stated they will move in this direction, but it's a recent development. I'm also still not fully convinced the carriers won't try and succeed in blocking it, but getting the manufacturers to commit to it is a great start.
Until then, we have to rely on an exploit, which for almost all versions of almost all phones, they've been able to do. But it isn't necessarily easy. You still have FAR more customization and tinkering opportunities on Android even without an unlocked bootloader, but once you have that, yes, you can tinker with Android in ways you couldn't even imagine with Apple.
I don't see how this is legal. We're paying on average $300-$500 for phones, that are mini-computers. I can pay that for a laptop and get a mobile usb stick for it on the same carrier, and I have many options of Operation Systems to put on said laptop, even though it's an HP, or a Dell, or a Chinese Knockoff.
Same with Sony and XboX, such Bullcrap!
If flashtool can flash stock roms with a locked bootloader, why not the custom ones? I was thinking, what if you could fool the phone into thinking the software is stock when it's really not?
Also, regarding fastboot, if it's possible to remotely access a dongle, shouldn't it be possible to write a script that does the same thing as the dongle itself? I'd be willing to donate and start a bounty for any dev up to the task.
Another thing I thought of is this: if a hole in adb allows us to root, can it not be applied to do other things as well? If you can push system files through adb for themes, I see no reason why installing a recovery would be impossible.
Bear in mind that although I'm not a noob, I'm sure as hell not an expert or developer (though eventually in the future I want to develop) so if there are limitations preventing these things please explain what they are instead of calling me a fool.
Also, on a side note, just how difficult is the script work for Android apps? My previous coding experience is with a game server program called eAthena, if anyone is familiar and can use that for comparison.
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Nice ideas but i'm now about to disapoint you lol
1) The roms we flash with flashtool are signed by sony, if we was to try to flash an u unsigned rom, with a locked bootloader, s1 boot would politely tell us to F-off, flashtool or not ......
2) The dongle you are on about is used in conjunction with setool, afaik the dongle just contains account info but maybe im wrong. Eitherway its setool that does the hard work not the dongle.
3) This is not a new idea, i have had devices beofre where you could use adb/terminal to push a recovery image..... But we have no acess to /boot/ partition while device is booted and thus no way to replace kernel.
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So basically, we need someone to write a program similar to setool, but one that doesn't need credits, in order to unlock fastboot, correct?
Surely someone around here would have the knowledge to do it. Freedom to customize should be available to all, not just people who can buy credits, imo.
Personally, I'm poor and could only get the phone caused I saved money for 2 months and signed a contact. Surely I'm not the only user with a tight wallet.
I say we put up a bounty to encourage the developers around here. I would much rather donate some cash towards the development of a free tool for everyone, as opposed to a single unlock just for myself.
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So basically, we need someone to write a program similar to setool, but one that doesn't need credits, in order to unlock fastboot, correct?
Surely someone around here would have the knowledge to do it. Freedom to customize should be available to all, not just people who can buy credits, imo.
Personally, I'm poor and could only get the phone caused I saved money for 2 months and signed a contact. Surely I'm not the only user with a tight wallet.
I say we put up a bounty to encourage the developers around here. I would much rather donate some cash towards the development of a free tool for everyone, as opposed to a single unlock just for myself.
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blagus and the omnius team have to ability to write such a tool, as they already have with omnius, that can also unlock bootloaders, but i doubt they would be intrested as that would take away there business
Yeah I knew about them already.. I meant someone else.. Lol
Also, I don't suppose it'd be possible to spoof a ROM so s1 boot thinks it's signed, is it? (I suspect that would be illegal, and therefore not something done on these forums)
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Yeah I knew about them already.. I meant someone else.. Lol
Also, I don't suppose it'd be possible to spoof a ROM so s1 boot thinks it's signed, is it? (I suspect that would be illegal, and therefore not something done on these forums)
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I don't think it's illegal to do that, but i do think it's impossible. Otherwise someone would of done it by now.
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I don't think it's illegal to do that, but i do think it's impossible. Otherwise someone would of done it by now.
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It's not illegal but when a TFT is "Signed" it simply isn't a bit that's turned on or something, it's actually a pretty large encrypted section of code. You'd have to decrypt it which would take freaking forever if at all possible. When I had my Atrix before we got the BL unlocked we tried to decrypt the code (Which was worse than the play probably) and someone figured out how long it would take to manually decrypt it. Something like 120 years running 24/7 on an i7 (I'm not kidding it was mathematically figured to be somewhere around that). If course you could get lucky and get it tomorrow but you'd have better odds winning the lottery and getting struck by lightning on a sunny day at the same time.
If there's one thing I learned from these forums it's saying something is impossible one day,and BAM it's there the next day,no big deal...
So what I'm trying to say is,there is always a workaround,but we need someone to find it...
And by the way,cant the signature just be copied? I mean if hundreds of people downloaded and used the same .ftf file...it doesn't seem unique,or that the phone has something to compare it to...
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Read up on signing and PKI here: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Code_signing
This post also has a good explanation on encrypted bootloaders (different device, same theory): http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/113171-official-droid-x-encrypted-bootloader-efuse-thread-13.html#post1455071
The short answer is that it's theoretically possible that there could be an exploit, than would allow you to bypass and flash unsigned firmware. However, the fact that you can do it without this (via paid methods) means that it's unlikely anyone would spend so much time investigating.
Hi,
i was considering buy an A100 but was surprised to see very little or no development for this tablet. Any particular reasons for it?
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@sahilkhurana:
The particular reason is that Android 4.0 is supposed to be available on the A100 "early" in the New Year.
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@sahilkhurana:
The particular reason is that Android 4.0 is supposed to be available on the A100 "early" in the New Year.
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I really do hope deving kicks off after ICS. If not i will sell this tab despite being such an amazing specd tab at fantastic price and buy a kindle fire.
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I really do hope deving kicks off after ICS. If not i will sell this tab despite being such an amazing specd tab at fantastic price and buy a kindle fire.
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I don't think I could use a kindle fire, it doesn't have a volume rocker, Bluetooth, GPS, or a sdcard slot. I agree this needs more development, but until you we either have a super intelligent person crack the boot-loader, or acer unlocks it for us, we won't get any development going on this. After that gets open, its cake and bacon. (lawl)
It's not ICS preventing dev support... Its the locked and encrypted bootloader. It has been mentioned in several other thread topics that in order for anything "major" to be done to this device that the bootloader has to be unlocked.
With an unlocked bootloader you'll get alot more doors open, such as:
- Rom Manager
- The possibility of porting CM7 and when it comes out CM9
- Custom Kernels
- Over Clocking
- Custom Roms
The dev community can do custom roms (by way of DD'ing a system.img file), but its not the same and can be messy (definitely not something an average person would want to do.)
Some of the more talented "hacker" type devs that have good decryption skills could break the encryption on the bootloader or find a loop hole in it, but so far no one has managed to break it. It's not something every one or dev can do and takes a skilled hacker or someone with the right connections at Acer.
Until this happens this device will be just like the Atrix you won't see much done with it but if it does manage to get unlocked you'll see a flood of roms and things for it.
Thats what i thought as well. Well might sell this tab off soon then cuz i get too many force closes.
Oh and one more thing, you can't use the bootloader hack that was released for the A500. They are two separate devices and while similar the A500 bootloader doesn't have the same 256 bit encryption key.
If you are experiencing too many FC's then you may need to do a hard reset or if you have it rooted try fixing permissions in rom manager (rom manager still works for permissions, but nothing else since it can't load itself into the bootloader). I use this device every day for development work and have no problems, every once in a while the browser will FC, but it's usually because I've done something stupid. Games will FC because of our device's resolution too (all 10" tablets usually run games at 1280x800 our 7" runs at 1028x600)
Like for instance if i log onto xda and click on a link not only will it force close but also delete data as well. Annoying that
I have to agree on slow development but on the other hand i'm so glad I was able to root it quickly as soon as i opened it. Also to add I havent experience FC on normal operation. But I have encountered some when I try to install apps that werent made for the a100. Just as crossix metioned probably cause of resolution conflict.
Thanks a lot for the replies. Its such a shame that Acer has locked bootloader for this device.
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jay_993 said:
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maby you have not noticed all the things fire dose not have IE: SD card,hdmi,non over custom ROM,and more than i have time to type
I will say this though to be able to charge over USB is nice
has anybody asked the dev of safestrap, or even tried it out yet? the locked bootloader is the next big problem, i assume. and as far as i get it the "fire os" is the same on "fire"-devices.
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has anybody asked the dev of safestrap, or even tried it out yet? the locked bootloader is the next big problem, i assume. and as far as i get it the "fire os" is the same on "fire"-devices.
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JCASE demonstrated booting unsigned code from USB... so we dont NEED to unlock the bootloader although it would be nice.
What we really need is a custom recovery and a way to boot it.. perhaps JCASE will chime in now that the root is out..
last i saw his signature says he is away for an undetermined amount of time :crying:
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last i saw his signature says he is away for an undetermined amount of time :crying:
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lol his sig has said that for an undetermined amount of time
May be we can write custom recovery using dd an then boot it?
I would think anyone that is willing to test unknown methods either has money to burn or a hardware flasher.
Just checked safestrap, no luck.
May be we can port loki. Platform looks similar for me, but offsets is different.
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iRet said:
Just checked safestrap, no luck.
May be we can port loki. Platform looks similar for me, but offsets is different.
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Looks like a few people have been looking into this, but haven't seen much activity recently. Just chiming in to see if there have been any advances on this front? Either progress, or a determination that it's too difficult at this point?
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Looks like a few people have been looking into this, but haven't seen much activity recently. Just chiming in to see if there have been any advances on this front? Either progress, or a determination that it's too difficult at this point?
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So I was thinking about 2nd-init and getting SafeStrap working. I need to keep looking and figure out the best place to start the 2nd-init.
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So I was thinking about 2nd-init and getting SafeStrap working. I need to keep looking and figure out the best place to start the 2nd-init.
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Thanks for answering Happy to hear that people are still trying this. I'm wondering, once Android TV is released, the hardware on this device seems to be pretty powerful and it might be a great experience, if we can figure out how to get it on there.
Good luck, rbox! And thx for the xposed mods
Just be aware that the first thing that will stop working with an unlocked bootloader will be Netflix HD. I don't have Prime so can't comment on that.
You will be limited to 720x480 resolution - 1750kbps.
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Thanks for answering Happy to hear that people are still trying this. I'm wondering, once Android TV is released, the hardware on this device seems to be pretty powerful and it might be a great experience, if we can figure out how to get it on there.
Good luck, rbox! And thx for the xposed mods
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I was able to find the best spot to do the 2nd init, and it seemed to be working, but unfortunately I'm having some problems getting TWRP to actually display even though I'm doing exactly the same thing I did with clockwork. Luckily it's a long weekend, so I should have some time to debug it.
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I was able to find the best spot to do the 2nd init, and it seemed to be working, but unfortunately I'm having some problems getting TWRP to actually display even though I'm doing exactly the same thing I did with clockwork. Luckily it's a long weekend, so I should have some time to debug it.
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thank you for the work u put into this device. i got it a few days back and have it decked out i hope by the end of summer this device will have a working recovery and maybe a rom or 2
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thank you for the work u put into this device. i got it a few days back and have it decked out i hope by the end of summer this device will have a working recovery and maybe a rom or 2
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Summer only has a couple of weeks left... I also hope we can crack the bootloafer or at least get boot strap or something similar working, but I am not going to hold my breath. I AM very happy with how well it is working though, especially as an xbmc/kodi box! Hope we can get the mic button working in kodi.
I was so excited to get a different phone. I had been contending with the insufferable Galaxy Note 2 for 9 months. I really believed that getting the LG Optimus G Pro would be great.
Now I come to find out that there is this locked bootloader? yes before you even start typing: I already know about Freegee. I put it on my phone, it did its work. I have CWM on my phone. I cannot install a different rom. It aborts every time.
And nobody here can help. Its not like you don't see my posts. You see them. You just see them and decide to go on to something more interesting figuring that someone else will help the poor guy.
Hey guess what. I took programming in college. Only one course in VB but I did take it. And I've put up several websites back in the day. ("back in the day is a United States colloquialism")
My point is, even though I have a bit of experience with computers (linux distros, html, visual basic) I still can't figure out the quagmire that is Android.
Once the iPhone 6 comes out, I really have no reason to stick with Android anymore. I mean, if rooting and rom-ing the phone is more boringly laborious than jailbreaking, then what is the point of Android?
For example, lets say I do clear the hurdle and then flash a rom so I can get decent sound? THEN my wifi won't work. Or Some other crucial functionality will be fubar-ed. Okay okay... you say you have a fix for that? Well when its all said and done, the time/energy costs just aren't worth it, now is it?
0 #!*! Given ?
That's interesting because I never took any classes and have never had a problem rooting or doing Roms on any android phone. Sorry your experience has been bad but my questions have always been answered by somebody in the related thread. I would try asking again in the ROM's thread to see what is happening.
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G pro is the note 2 killer...... Just follow instructions of any op to the T and you should be fine.... It's simple lol
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I agree. I don't post often but I really do hate Apple. Android kicks Apple's you know what many times over. Talk about being locked down.... If I've ever had a problem with a Rom someone has always helped me figure it out. Sorry about your problems though.
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@Perry2547,
If CWM doesn't work then try TWRP, even i had problems with CWM.either install it from freegee or install this
copy this to sd card and then flash it in CWM and reboot.
I believe the OP just wanted to start a thread...
So you all may ignore him
Thanks @sukesh.
I tried the twrp you linked to and now my phone will let me flash.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Close thread please.
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I don't even remember how I rooted this phone... I know I found a thread that had comprehensive instructions, links, etc and believe it was as simple as downloading/extracting an executable file on my PC and plugging the phone into USB at the right moment. I've flashed CM, stock 4.4, Slim and always find my way back to stock 4.1.2, modded to my liking. If you can't flash something in a custom recovery, it's likely your phone is protecting you from failure to completely read/follow a prior mod or a prerequisite to the ROM/Mod you wish to flash.
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But seriously y'all, I'm just glad I have another two hours if battery life left. That means I will vhave to recharge this phone only 3 more times today.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Nobody gives a damn, get life!
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Nobody gives a damn, get life!
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Haha
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hawkwind212 said:
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
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Perry2547 said:
Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
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Oh lawdy... Then go to iPhone buddy .. Lol see ya
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But Apple has been implicated in planned obsolescence as well.
Does that matter to you?
To me, it makes me a bit upset that I could work on my vehicle twenty years ago, but now it's not possible. Planned obsolescence.
Make everything sweepstakes m disposable. Lock it down too. Keep every one buying the upgrades.
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Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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hawkwind212 said:
Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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I got a ROM to install. I indicated so in the thread. It was the E988 rom on the E980 thread.
I do a lot of whining and complaining but its for the best.
I hope that the complaining I did about Samsung's crappy products has saved a few people from buying...that is the only way that company will learn their lesson. Why pay $800 for a device only to get screen burn in.
But I never ever never ever BRICKED my Note 2.
I've bricked this OGP more times than I can count.
We should have the options to remove the locked boot loader. I would gladly sign an agreement acknowledging the risks.
We're going backwards. We're not making progress.
Same things is happening in desktop/laptop computers. I had to do something unusual to remove the UEFI on a Windows machine I bought last year just to install Lubuntu.
Speaking of Lubuntu, I had an ASUS Netbook with Windows 7 and an Atom processor. Needless to say, it ran slow. So I installed Lubuntu. Then , wow, the device ran so fast and smooth, and the already good battery life got three times better.
Why can't we have an option like that for our smartphones? I want to run the equivalent of Lubuntu on my OGP.
And another thing: Why are some custom roms dimming the display? Is it to make it appear as if the rom is giving better battery life?
Peace out bro.. but yeah, I'm not stopping my rants. If you don't like what I've got to say, simply don't read it.
This phone is not much more difficult to root than any Samsung phone I used. Also why didn't you do research before buying the phone? It was stated clearly that the boot loader was locked. However since day one of purchase I was able to follow a thread and have my phone rooted in ten minutes. It is really not that hard. Now there are a bunch of one click roots. This phone installs custom Roms every time with ease for me. I am no expert but I can read instructions. If you follow them, 99% of the time things will work. I love android for the fact that I have options. I am running a rooted stock ROM now but I love knowing that in ten minutes time I can have a new ROM flashed. This community has been so helpful and responsive.
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