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Hi guys,
I know this is somehow a dumb question for you all gurus here. But I am new to upgrading ROM although I have been using PPC for more than 3 years already. I normally only installed softwares, but when I came across this forum, I realised that there are so many cool things that you can do with your PPC and one of them is to upgrade your ROM to make it a better device. This will definately save me monies from buying a new unit (if i am not looking for better speed or memory)
My questions are:
1. How do I upgrade the ROM? Do I need a special software to do it? Or it is a simple CAB file installation
2. Is upgrading ROM legal? I am the kind that support buying the softwares that I need rather than installing the cracked version. I believe this will help the growth of a better development.
3. When I upgrade into a new ROM, would my existing data (such as texts, contacts, other data) be gone? How do I backup these data? I am already planning to buy SPB backup software and I am not sure whether this will be able to help me when I upgrade into a new ROM.
4. How do I revert back to my original ROM if ever I am not satisfied with the new ROM?
5. I know these are basic questions and I too had searched the forum, but I can't just seem to find the right answer to my worries.
thanks guys. . .
cooldude_no1 said:
Hi guys,
I know this is somehow a dumb question for you all gurus here. But I am new to upgrading ROM although I have been using PPC for more than 3 years already. I normally only installed softwares, but when I came across this forum, I realised that there are so many cool things that you can do with your PPC and one of them is to upgrade your ROM to make it a better device. This will definately save me monies from buying a new unit (if i am not looking for better speed or memory)
My questions are:
1. How do I upgrade the ROM? Do I need a special software to do it? Or it is a simple CAB file installation
2. Is upgrading ROM legal? I am the kind that support buying the softwares that I need rather than installing the cracked version. I believe this will help the growth of a better development.
3. When I upgrade into a new ROM, would my existing data (such as texts, contacts, other data) be gone? How do I backup these data? I am already planning to buy SPB backup software and I am not sure whether this will be able to help me when I upgrade into a new ROM.
4. How do I revert back to my original ROM if ever I am not satisfied with the new ROM?
5. I know these are basic questions and I too had searched the forum, but I can't just seem to find the right answer to my worries.
thanks guys. . .
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Since you didn't give an exact make/model of your PPC, I can only give you some generic answers.
1) Depends on what device you have. Generally, you don't need any special software to do it. Generally, it is not just as simple as a CAB installation.
2) I don't really care to get into that. But, if you think about it, why would you come onto this site to get a "hacked" ROM if your device's manufacturer supplied one for you? What I'm really getting down to is, who would you pay? If you get a "hacked" ROM from here, it's most likely because your device's manufacturer has determined not to supply you with updated ROMs--why then would you send them any more money? Somebody else can try to answer that more appropriately, if they care to.
3) Generally, (again, I can't say anything specific without knowing your device) most ROM updates will format your internal storage. So, yes, you would lose any unsaved data. Backup software like SPB will backup most of your files for you. Go to their site to get the details on that. Essentially, most of your data (contacts, e-mail, tasks, etc...) are referred to as PIM data. Almost any backup software for a PPC will backup PIM data. PIM data, generally, can be restored into almost any WM version. You probably would not want to backup your system data (registry, system files, etc...) and restore it into another version of WM (if it is a major revision change...ie, WM5 -> WM6). That being said, most all of your current programs would need to be re-installed, as a general rule.
4) Did your device come with a "restore disc"? Did you happen to check with the manufacturer of your device to see if an original image (ROM) is available?
5) I'm surprised you didn't find answers to most of these questions, honestly. These are fairly common questions that would be asked in most ROM related threads on this forum. Unfortunately, there is some level of "you just have to try it for yourself" that is usually involved in a ROM upgrade.
I'm pretty sure if you throw out a make and model of your device in this thread, someone with something similar (if not the same thing) will be able to give you more specific answers to your questions.
sorry, i din realise the make and model of my PPC makes a difference. Mine is o2 Atom (black) with WM5.
cooldude_no1 said:
sorry, i din realise the make and model of my PPC makes a difference. Mine is o2 Atom (black) with WM5.
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??? Would you repair a VW Jetta the same way you would repair a Chevy Cavalier or a Passat or a Subaru WRX? Sorry to sound condescending, but of course the make and model makes a difference! But, now that we know what you have, perhaps someone can give you some more specific details to your device. I personally don't know anything about your particular device. Hopefully someone can clear up your questions for you.
cavyman said:
Since you didn't give an exact make/model of your PPC, I can only give you some generic answers.
1) Depends on what device you have. Generally, you don't need any special software to do it. Generally, it is not just as simple as a CAB installation.
2) I don't really care to get into that. But, if you think about it, why would you come onto this site to get a "hacked" ROM if your device's manufacturer supplied one for you? What I'm really getting down to is, who would you pay? If you get a "hacked" ROM from here, it's most likely because your device's manufacturer has determined not to supply you with updated ROMs--why then would you send them any more money? Somebody else can try to answer that more appropriately, if they care to.
3) Generally, (again, I can't say anything specific without knowing your device) most ROM updates will format your internal storage. So, yes, you would lose any unsaved data. Backup software like SPB will backup most of your files for you. Go to their site to get the details on that. Essentially, most of your data (contacts, e-mail, tasks, etc...) are referred to as PIM data. Almost any backup software for a PPC will backup PIM data. PIM data, generally, can be restored into almost any WM version. You probably would not want to backup your system data (registry, system files, etc...) and restore it into another version of WM (if it is a major revision change...ie, WM5 -> WM6). That being said, most all of your current programs would need to be re-installed, as a general rule.
4) Did your device come with a "restore disc"? Did you happen to check with the manufacturer of your device to see if an original image (ROM) is available?
5) I'm surprised you didn't find answers to most of these questions, honestly. These are fairly common questions that would be asked in most ROM related threads on this forum. Unfortunately, there is some level of "you just have to try it for yourself" that is usually involved in a ROM upgrade.
I'm pretty sure if you throw out a make and model of your device in this thread, someone with something similar (if not the same thing) will be able to give you more specific answers to your questions.
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cavyman;
BRAVO!!!
Very comprehensive,authoritative,justifiable and meaningful approach.
I wud just like to add here in a nutshell in my own way,no harm meant to anyone,no hard feelings plz & I quote, :-
" Hey ! ya'all ,what are you doing here,why u'all scratching you heads for,with wide opened sleepless eyes starring at the Pc monitor and jumping to your PDA's,go get some rest man,give yourself a break man ,look your wife is annoyed,your children yelling,your boss might kick you out,why you have to sneak out in the night to work on this project,just forget it,it's not worth it... WHY! cuz here I'm MR.RICHIE RICH, I got the dough, I can get every device which comes out after every six months,so why take this trouble of upgrading, with this,OH **** HACKED SOFTWARE,when we have with us Mr.Silly $ator, Long Live Micro$hoft..huh!"
cooldude_no1
With my due apologies,no harm meant to you,but how many people in the world,do you think can buy a new device which comes out with new features and new applications every year,well perhaps 10 to 20% at the give and take average.
secondly, software owner's,vendors,device manufactures and carriers who launch their products dont give a **** after the sale of products,never care and provide support and upgrades to their products,if they did than no one wud have come here and how then will they launch new products.why shud all those people suffer who had paid there hard earned money to buy these devices and than they are deprived of their rights.
We all complement all the techies,gurus and hard working staff of xda forums for their relentless,priceless,reward less and with no monitory gains,the way they are serving the community.All credit goes to them ! Infact,if you go through all of their work,applications,software and cooking of latest Roms,one must say,they are even doing a much better,perfect and excellent job than manufacturers and vendors themselves,THUMBS UP
Ok if your are really interested to upgrade your device,there's a whole thread for your device,for your guidance and upgrade.see in the link below:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=297
Good luck,have fun
Bye
Hi all
Firstly, sorry if this has been dealt with, I did spend many days searching for answers. Hopefully some of the smart people here can help me out! I've spent quite a lot of time reading through the forums here and I understand the concepts of building custom roms.
I've not found whether it's the right way to image windows mobile devices in a corporate environment. For example, if my company has 200 palm treo pro, and we just want to apply the same setup onto every device (such as sprite backup settings, and install a dot net app), does this require the itsutils, extracting the fs and then generating the nbh using kitchen or something? Is there a simpler way to do it given that I'm not trying to modify anything after it's out of the phone? I'm thinking to simply setup 1 device the way we want it, then dump the fs and push it out to all 200 devices. Am I being naive? Is it a lot more complicated than that? Also, does anyone know if doing this would void the warranty/support on the devices?
thanks
Andrew
I think you want to look into SPB Clone. It does everything that you need.
thanks ted. Looks perfect but the $300 per device price tag is pretty hefty. Any other ideas?
Are you sure it's per device? I thought it was per license. That makes it a little more reasonable. I actually hope you get it, cuz I've been wondering how the hell it worked. There description makes it sound like they're flashing a rom image, but you have to figure it's just a normal backup utility. Do me a favor-convince your boss to buy it, then report back here on what the deal is with it, lol.
Farmer Ted said:
Are you sure it's per device? I thought it was per license. That makes it a little more reasonable. I actually hope you get it, cuz I've been wondering how the hell it worked. There description makes it sound like they're flashing a rom image, but you have to figure it's just a normal backup utility. Do me a favor-convince your boss to buy it, then report back here on what the deal is with it, lol.
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I have used it before. It actually does make an image file (contained in an exe) that will duplicate itself exactly on every device. It is not just another backup program.
dwizzy130
So, are you telling me that if you hard reset, it will boot back up to the clone image, and not the stock rom? That's pretty cool.
Farmer Ted said:
So, are you telling me that if you hard reset, it will boot back up to the clone image, and not the stock rom? That's pretty cool.
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I actually don't know about that... I never tried it, but it isn't flashing a ROM so it might get rid of it. Idk.
dwizzy130
this is the response from sprite about their licensing. 300 per device is too much, but you can get a 10 day demo from them if you want to try it out.
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Dear Andrew,
The licensing for Sprite Clone is Per Device i.e. you can use “Sprite Clone 20 License Pack” to image 20 WM devices.
You can install the PC software on any number of PC’s but you can only create an image/restore the image you create to 20 devices.
You can create numerous images and restore as many times as necessary to the 20 devices.
Hope this helps,
Hi there,
I am so deeply searching a vocabulary trainer which is more or less fingerfriendly for my Touch HD.
It is unbelievable that there is no program like that available and I just need such a simple one:
I want to add "units", which store the vocabulary in German the foreign language. Then the program randomly chooses one of the words and shows the German translation and I, in my mind, think what it would be, and then I click "right" or "wrong" and go onto the next word. I don't even need a text insertion which must be compared...
Does anybody of you know such a program? Not finding this is for me now a reason to switch to Android, because in the market, they have such programs (vocablo). I would of course pay for it.
Thanks a lot!
I would love to program a thing like that. It would even be pretty easy (as far as i see it). The real problem however is creating the database for it.
I have bought the Japanese Trainer from SPB(?) of the store which isn't really great but it is okay-ish. One can even add a lot of words, although they probably didn't plan it that way, but one can simply add new folders and copy images and sound files into them to expand the library. However, if i knew Japanese well enough to create an extended database i would not need the app ... so the real problem in an app like this is always the database..
If you like you can give me an Excel-file with a hand full of words and i can set up a sample app. Unfortunately i will be away from the pc next week, but in the week after that i could give it a try...
please include at least:
Foreign Word, Native Word, Usage example, word class (I think one could then have a nice multiple choice mode, too)
Well, just checked SPBs app, but I would want a much easier program, no need for pictures, etc.
Frankly spoken, I tried to code it myself, but have the same problem with how to save the words. I thought of using a simple textfile, saving the words like that:
mothertongue#foreign language#box
Example:
Haus#house#1
Sommer#summer#3
Österreich#Austria#2
The box is the number of 5 boxes and the program needs to ask all words in the boxes 1 to 4. If I know the word, the number of the box is incremented as long as it is smaller than 5, if I don't know the word the number is decremented.
What is important to me, is that I can add new textfiles, which I then can edit, in order to add or delete words from that file.
Any other ideas?
I would also use a csv file:
word;translation;whatever
you could then easily manage your vocabulary list in excel and save it directly as csv again...
excelent program
Hello
Do you know Leitner system? Flash cards?
Read these two first!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitner_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashcard
Then download this Iranian software... { it is in English }
http://soheil86.50webs.com/Leitner Box/Leitner-Box.html
It is working based on Leitner system...
I have memorized 7k English word with it... Including GRE
Word list..... It is a very very great software
Let me know if you need any help!
Have a nice day
Thanks for the link.
But tell me, can I add units and new words in the program?
I need the program to add words when I am at university.
Did you open the link?
Pay attention to the note at the bottom of the page:
3. You can create data base with leitner box in your device, but if you like to create faster with PC, download data base editor.by editor you can convert your excel files to leitner box data base, and also you can exchange your target and source languages.
4. If you want to import data from excel data sheets, and you dont have excel 2007 installed in your system, download and install this file, first.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...36-8C28-4598-9B72-EF94E038C891&displaylang=en
Tell me if you need help... I have a program to create database....
but I think you can find everything in that link...
Please update the keywords in this thread and add :Leitner box , flash card
Thank you in advanced
Hello experts on this forum
I`m a total newbie into this technology. I got myself a nice HTC desire HD. After a while, I got aggravated, feeling monitored by Mr. Orwell, whith this Android system. To my great surprise, I believe that I managed to route the phone, and install a Linux firewall. However, I still feel a little paranoid.
I know that people like me, stumbling around on a forum like this, might be a pain in the a. because we don`t "RFTM": However I tried, but there`s so many words that I don`t understand. I`m not a computer expert, and I`m not familiar with DOS programming. However, If I get my hands on a clear list, I know I can do it.
My question is this: I Use a modern iMac, with a card reader. I`ve two separate micro sd cards. Do anyone of you know about a nice, and simple explanation that idiots like me would understand, in order to completely wipe out this Google OS, and install a "clean" Ubuntu? I`m willing to make a real effort to learn, and I have patience. I love my HDHD because of the big nice screen, but I like to keep my personal life only for myself. I can`t stand that Mr. Orwell snap up all my datapackets.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, from you experts. I fear that this might be hard with a Mac, but I do have access to full DOS- utility on my computer. (iMac with i7 processor.
Also, am I pretty safe, with Ubunto on my machine?
Thank you so much in advance.
You do realise that running ubuntu on a device that only has a touchscreen is kinda fail...
Also, i doubt Mr. Orwell - whoever he is ( The only guy i can find on google is some author) would even be able to monitor anything. Android is completely Open source, so it would be kinda suspicious to insert code that sends "Packets" somewhere.
Even if someone is somehow monitoring you through the Android OS, i doubt that they would bother monitoring a single person, out of the tens or hundreds of millions of other android users.
Regardless, following this guide, and doing a full wipe (Download superwipe from android revolution, flash it in CWM) should completely remove android. (And install ubuntu)
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You do realise that running ubuntu on a device that only has a touchscreen is kinda fail...
Also, i doubt Mr. Orwell - whoever he is ( The only guy i can find on google is some author) would even be able to monitor anything. Android is completely Open source, so it would be kinda suspicious to insert code that sends "Packets" somewhere.
Even if someone is somehow monitoring you through the Android OS, i doubt that they would bother monitoring a single person, out of the tens or hundreds of millions of other android users.
Regardless, following this guide, and doing a full wipe (Download superwipe from android revolution, flash it in CWM) should completely remove android. (And install ubuntu)
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Hi, and thank you very much for answering my question. Mr. Orwell wrote about 1984, if I`m not wrong. Today, my gut feeling tells me, that all the apps onboard my HTC sends away datapackets that I would like to stop. After installing this Linux firewall, I was amazed to see how many apps that sent away packets with headers, containing mye personalia. Even my camera stopped working properly, when activating the linux firewall.
Nix ok for me. To bad, because I found the Android system very nice and intuitive to use. My great challenge, is that I`m not a nerd. I whish a was, in a technical perspective. Many thanks for your link to the guide. As long as I can type text messages, check the web/mail, and maybe the weather forecast, I`m happy.
What I really fear, is that I will manage to mess up this machine of mine. Well, it`s just a thing, and I `ll survive, if I brake it. My economy isn`t the greatest, but heck, it`s worth a try.
Best regards!
You could always try flashing a clean install of CM7. It doesnt have any HTC Apps, just google.
Also, the packets are either log data, or sync data for HTCSense.com contact/etc backup. You can disable it by flashing ROM Cleaner and only removing the HTC Hub related and HTC "Spyware". This is only required if you want to stay on sense.
Google backup can be disabled by removing your google account, or going Settings>Privacy and untick "Back up my settings" (I think its disabled by default on CM/Miui roms)
So I've started to earn a few stripes in the world of Custom ROM's, been caught in a few boot loops, completely ruined a few ROM's because I thought I was above the instructions and so on, from my limited experience so far I've learnt one thing, these few words are my best friends right now "fastboot erase cache'"
So I come to my question. I'm using Titanium Backup. I've read and can understand why doing a system restore on a new ROM is simply bad news, even if the previous ROM was a similar type, ie, both being HTC Sense ROM's, however the most annoying and time consuming aspect of a new rom is as follows:
Entering all your account information again (Mail, Evernote, FB etc)
Losing all your SMS's
Losing all your GUI changes (The 8 folders I have on my front screen which took me ages to setup)
After restoring all your Apps from Backup, is there a quick and easy way to see what all the circa 250 system modules listed in Titanium actually are? Sure some are self explanatory, however if there were a reference somewhere where I could see which modules looked after GUI layout, SMS's and Account Information for example, it would be a nice way to save time when going from one ROM to another.
Does anyone know where I could find this information?
If I may be cheeky and slide in another question? Along the same lines. I understand that doing a system restore between different ROMS is bad news, what about when ARHD update the ROM I'm on? Would a full system restore after a clean ROM install still be a bad idea? Does the system restore touch things like the kernel and OS?
Any help would be truly appreciated and I'm very sorry if this has already been answered in another thread, I did have a poke about first.
In case you were all wondering, and I know all 4 million + registered users where all next to their computer's lying in fetal positions waiting for this problem to be solved, I did a bit of RTFM and Voila, the answers were staring me in the face.
Titanium Backup had even highlighted what I wanted In Bold Lime for all the n00bs like me!
WOOGH
That's me making a gorilla noise and typing the rest of this post with my elbows...
Thankyou and goodnight!