Hello,
I've tried some AOSP(maybe spelt it wrong) ROMs, and some sense ROMs, and in some I had a very, very bad WiFi signal issue. Currently I'm testing one out and it's always ar 1 dot or 2 max for 3 seconds, and then it disconnects, reconnects again. I'm barely 7m away from my router, maybe even less. I'm not sure how the signal was when I used Stock ROM, but I think I had 3-4dots all the time, now I'm loosing the connection a lot. I was searching for a good fast ROM(idc about sense really with this phone), but that issue is killing me really.
What would be the issue? A radio, kernel, ROM problem? Any tips?
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I compared quite a few ROMs with the only purpose in mind: see how the GPS works with them. What I found out is that there is a huge difference between them.
I started this, because I had issues with GPS fixing in Oxygen. So I measured the time and looked at the behaviour of Satellites in GPS Status & Toolbox. I always did a full WIPE as well as fastbooted the radio 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08, as I found out that it is the only way to remove the position and time data from the previous GPS fixes. I didn't know that the radio can learn things, but it is indeed the case, even a full wipe doesn't trigger the same coldboot process as the radio flashing does.
OK, I start with this, in Oxygen 2.1.3 after the coldboot it needed 17 minutes to have a fix! The biggest problem was the disappearing of the GPS signal (I mean all satellite bars) for a few seconds every 30 second or so. It meant that the all the satellites were staying "yellow" instead of switching to "green" in GPS Status. And even after the fix (17 mins), the accuracy was moving between 24 meters to 48 meters.
It was the same slow and "disappearing every 20-30 seconds for a moment" thing in Leedroid 3.0.6-R2. Not good accuracy either.
I tested Leedroid 2.4.1 Froyo for fun and to my surprise it was much faster. It had a stable signal and better accuracy (something like 16 m).
So far these were the bad ones (oh, one more, I tried RCMix but it froze down my system after waiting for a 15 minutes boot up...) The good experiences I had was with:
CM7 7.0.3 - This was quite quick and surprisingly stable. This was one of the two roms which could get under 10 meter accuracy. The accuracy is constantly under 10 meter, with the best beging 6 meter. Coldstart fix was about 2 minutes, Hotstart (just a reboot) was about 18 secs.
Redux 1.2 - I really don't know whats in this ROM, but it is by far far the most stable ROM for GPS use. It gets a Coldstart fix in 2 minutes, with all the Satellites being "green" instantly. I don't know how it does that, in most of the ROMs they need quite some time to go from yellow to green. Redux, on the other hand goes to green the moment it sees a satellite. The result is that coldstart fix is in 1.5-2 minutes, and hotstart fix (after a reboot) happens in 12 seconds! Whats more, it has the best GPS accuracy I have seen from desire, with the average accuracy being 6 meters, which sometime goes down to 3-4 meter! I didn't even know its possible with an Android phone to have accuracy like this!
But both CM7 and Redux are fast and reliable for GPS tracking. The biggest problem in the other ROMs is that there is something which triggers the loosing of all GPS satellites every 20-30 seconds or so. If you use GPS Status you see that all the satellites disappear for a moment at the same time!
What about Miui or the new Sense roms, like Insertcoin?
And if you try radio 5.11.05.27?
That one solved it for me, I was using a newer radio version and had the same problems in Oxygen...
Did you use the same radio for all tested roms or not? And what version?
I used 5.17.05.08 with all the ROM. I only tried different radios with Oxygen, and 5.11.05.27 was indeed better, but not that much. It got a fix in 8 minutes instead of 17, but the accuracy was still in the 48 meter range.
roderick407 said:
Did you use the same radio for all tested roms or not? And what version?
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Why a FULL QUOTE?!?
And why do you ask for the radio version, when it is written in the first post already?
I have also noticed the same...
Since switching from the Froyo ROM that was on the phone when i got it, the GPS signal/inaccuracy has been an issue... but then again i am with telstra...
Maybe the problem is in used radio. Each rom contains RIL files which must correspond to used radio. There is a description here
I use Leedroid 2.4 and radio 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14. My coldstart fix is up to 15 secs with and max 2 mins without aGPS. The GPS has stable signal and accuracy 2-3 meters (sometimes 1 meter).
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Maybe the problem is in used radio. Each rom contains RIL files which must correspond to used radio. There is a description here
I use Leedroid 2.4 and radio 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14. My coldstart fix is up to 15 secs with and max 2 mins without aGPS. The GPS has stable signal and accuracy 2-3 meters (sometimes 1 meter).
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You might be right, but I did not try ROM-radio combinations of just ROM changes. But with Oxygen, where I started, I tried the radios 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2, 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27, 32.54.00.32U_5.14.05.17, 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08, 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23. And while some worked better, they were still not as good as the better ROMs. I mean they still were "yellow" for at least 8 minutes, instead of CM7's or Redux's behaviour of being "green" instantly.
i just tested oxygen with the same radio you mentioned and it fixes fine for me in more or less 2 mins from coldstart. the accuracy is good too (5 meters) i just used gps test plus to check the satellites. also the gps has a stable signal too so i cannot conclude about your findings.
Guys gps problems are radio and region related
your answer to quick gps fix is:
~flash latest radio
~check your gps.conf file
~refresh your agps data frequently
more info here
{on summertime i will write a full guide, now i dont have time}
dexter93 said:
Guys gps problems are radio and region related
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You might be right, but I tested these ROMs after a FULL wipe and without connecting to any wireless network. But maybe they had AGPS data already set inside (but isn't that useless after a couple of days?).
I found this application for editing gps.conf:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=825717
Same with me.
GPS takes about 5-7 minutes to acquire.
Funnily, downloading GPS assist data from the web didn't seem to always help.
Results with both recommended radio and with 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23.
FasterFix did not help - same 7 minutes to obtain a fix, considering a fresh agps download and the fact that I used GPS the day before.
Now with my old WM samsung i900, I obtain a fix after a cold start and without agps in just under four minutes.
In any case, depending on internet connection to get a gps fix sucks. When I'm on the road, particularly on a vacation, internet is more often not available.
s300pmu1 said:
Same with me.
GPS takes about 5-7 minutes to acquire.
Funnily, downloading GPS assist data from the web didn't seem to always help.
Results with both recommended radio and with 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23
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Which ROM?
I get a fix reasonably quickly on Oxygen, but it drops the signal and finds it again every 2 seconds.
So I've had this problem for awhile now with the wifi disconnecting itself during standby. The other day I decided to start fresh and went did a complete wipe and reflashed CM (10.1 RC).
The problem did not present itself during the 1st or 2nd day, however yesterday I noticed the wifi signal bar went grey for a second and reconnected. So I checked my radio version and noticed it was a few months behind, downloaded the latest and flashed it. Problem didn't show up until the next day where the wifi signal briefly turned grey and reconnected.
Wifi settings are set to always stay on when screen is off and I've tried almost every combo of settings in the wifi menu to stop it. This is fairly annoying since when I have wifi turned on I do not get texts since I use GV. Yes, I can turn off wifi and use my phone's internet, but I have bad signal here and the speeds are extremely slow.
I'm not sure what the problem could be, I always thought it was a bad flash the first time I did it and it was a bug. I thought wiping everything and flashing an RC would fix the problems.
Any thoughts on what could be causing it? I'm on stock CM with no custom kernels.
Hi, I have S-ON with CM11 and few problems i cant live with.
Firstly, i have bad wi-fi signal, coin trick not working. But like, i have a signal, like 2 bars, but internet not work and I must restart wifi to work.
Second problem is with audio, sometimes, after call or whenever its so fast, so i must restart phone to work normal (normally 2x per day )
And sometimes it crashes in Google Camera, when i micro to something in fast.
And battery life is so horrible too, after 20 minutes from 100% i have 88%, it's that same with you? Im thinking about buying OneX+ battery..
Can somebody help me? Thanks guys!
Tommy.35 said:
Hi, I have S-ON with CM11 and few problems i cant live with.
Firstly, i have bad wi-fi signal, coin trick not working. But like, i have a signal, like 2 bars, but internet not work and I must restart wifi to work.
Second problem is with audio, sometimes, after call or whenever its so fast, so i must restart phone to work normal (normally 2x per day )
And sometimes it crashes in Google Camera, when i micro to something in fast.
And battery life is so horrible too, after 20 minutes from 100% i have 88%, it's that same with you? Im thinking about buying OneX+ battery..
Can somebody help me? Thanks guys!
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Install other rom near to sense this is know problems with kitkat roms try other kitkat rom and see if this fix the problems
Hi Fellas,
I have a rooted D855 on the UK 3 network (Cloudy 2.5 custom rom) and I'm experiencing an unusually high awake time when I have WIFI connected. I cannot for the life of me, work out the reason for it.
If I turn WIFI off all together I get a fairly consistent 4-5% awake time when idle, however switching it on increases that time to around 20%. This is re-producible again and again.
I've tried a couple of different modems but I get the same results, so that can't be it.
I'm just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
Does this happen on stock rom?
ClownShoes said:
Hi Fellas,
I have a rooted D855 on the UK 3 network (Cloudy 2.5 custom rom) and I'm experiencing an unusually high awake time when I have WIFI connected. I cannot for the life of me, work out the reason for it.
If I turn WIFI off all together I get a fairly consistent 4-5% awake time when idle, however switching it on increases that time to around 20%. This is re-producible again and again.
I've tried a couple of different modems but I get the same results, so that can't be it.
I'm just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
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It's normal.
Your device is listening to broadcast and service (beacons, key renewal, etc.) packets, plus it scans for other beacons regularly. Besides, if there are dropbox/bitsync/etc clients, ios devices or other clients, which like to broadcast - battery drain and awake time will be even higher.
So weird Issue.
Using Google Maps on MaximusHD 6 with the latest t-mo firmware (2.11) I get constant "GPS SIGNAL LOST" when obviously driving and using it as my nav since I got it. I'm in southern California with a pretty good LTE signal almost everywhere. The highways are pretty open so trees, mountains, buildings etc are ruled out as a probable cost.
Now today I noticed that I normally keep the phone locked/screen off when driving since it's connected over BT so there's no real need to look at it. During a normal 15-20min drive I would get the signal lost alert a lot. Upwards of 10 or so times on that single drive. While with my M8 it never happened especially when literally not 5min after getting out of the parking lot doing maybe 20mph down the street. I first I thought i messed something up since I took the phone apart to apply thermal paste to keep it from overheating.
However today on a drive back I kept the phone with the screen on. Never did it lose signal while the screen was on, but a minute after I locked the phone (screen off) did it lose GPS signal. I turned it back on and after driving 20min or so the signal wasn't lost.
So overall has anyone experience a similar issue? Full cellular coverage with frequent google maps alerts that the GPS signal was lost. Maybe a background gps process being killed or another coming up and hindering it.
Gonna wait for the Thanksgiving break to mess around with stock/custom roms and see if it's just something that can be fixed with a reflash.
I'm having the same issue, have you figured anything out? Have you tried using a different app besides google maps to see if it's the actual app doing it's power save feature, or the background powersaving process being started by the phone being screen off? Really interested because my phone starts burning up to extreme temps...
On the backup I had with the issue I narrowed It down to possibly a background process cutting it off once the screen turns back. Power saving was off and all that would stick while screen was off was maps, Google service, and social apps.
As for the cause I couldn't figure it out. I went with a stock from without issues. Then went back to custom roms and haven't had the issue again. Also I drastically lowered my app count. Barely use any apps not needed for basic functionality.
As for the temp issue you're having. I noticed gets warm just like any other device when using GPS. I have opened up the phone and applied a new thermal coat following off a thread around here.
I have another issue came up where the phone would seek out a GPS signal while battery saving was selected to even location turned off. Killed my battery in a heart beat. Hasn't happened again.
I would suggest you make a full backup and either flash a stock rom or redownload whatever custom rom your using. Do a trial run for a day or two with minimal apps and see if it improves.
Here's where it gets interesting..
I used to own a galaxy s3 i9300 and custom kernels caused exactly the same issue. Flashing a stock rom solved it and a few other issues, one in particular was gps inaccurate coordinates.
Now I have moved to an m9. This has in the past run great. It is completely stock and untouched by curious fingers.. However, recently my gps has been running at random intervals even though it is completely off in all accessable settings. I can't find the culprit and it sapped 40% in a few minutes. It was literally a short face to face conversation, jumped back in the car and went for my phone for waze.. Dead as a dodo..
Confuzzled completely as to whether this is the actual rom doing it or an app..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
shivadow said:
Here's where it gets interesting..
I used to own a galaxy s3 i9300 and custom kernels caused exactly the same issue. Flashing a stock rom solved it and a few other issues, one in particular was gps inaccurate coordinates.
Now I have moved to an m9. This has in the past run great. It is completely stock and untouched by curious fingers.. However, recently my gps has been running at random intervals even though it is completely off in all accessable settings. I can't find the culprit and it sapped 40% in a few minutes. It was literally a short face to face conversation, jumped back in the car and went for my phone for waze.. Dead as a dodo..
Confuzzled completely as to whether this is the actual rom doing it or an app..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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Android 6 should be released around here soon so maybe that'll improve/fix these issues. I wouldn't be surprised if Google services is causing this since it has in the past drained batteries and causes similar issues. If the kernel is involved then the issue has been seen on both stock and custom.
well it may be a setting from the maximums HD, try using other Rom and tell us if problem is solved, try HD Revolution or ViperOne.
Hi all, I got a Moto G3 and having issues with the gps no signal message, it is on and off, but more the time that have no signal. So have heard that Android 6 could be the guilty one.. Do any of you know if there is a fix yet? ?
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