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When I first got my desire back in July, I was over the moon with all these jam packed features and functions and that AMOLED screen not to mention my very first smart phone. That didn't last, ever since I moved to the HTC Desire it gives me nothing but grief, I can hardly use it due to its faults, either be it hardware or software based; Boot Loops, Boot Freeze, Inconsistency, On-board Low Memory, Overheating, Buggy that's just a few problems with it.
Trying to fix it by debranding to the HTC Stock ROM didn't solve any problems.
I think the time has come now to move on from my desire and chose another device other than HTC, preferably iPhone?
Please share your experiences regarding this device and what would you recommend as my next device.
-Deeco
Did you try rooting, S-OFF and installing a non-stock ROM? I know 3-4 people with a Desire and they are all stock and they all work immaculately.
I am not interested in using a Non-Stock ROM and I don't think that would make any difference. I was talking generally about the phone and the amount of flaws disadvantages it's self from reliability.
I am absolutely satisfied with HTC after using 3 different phones made by them in the past 3 years. iOS and Apple are great for dumb people.
Why didn't you bring it in for warranty? Freezes and reboots are not normal on an unrooted desire.
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Deeco7 said:
I am not interested in using a Non-Stock ROM and I don't think that would make any difference. I was talking generally about the phone and the amount of flaws disadvantages it's self from reliability.
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Maybe it's just a dodgy phone? A new ROM would amost certainly fix your issues providing they aren't hardware related. Have you tried to get it repaired using your warranty?
I came from an iPhone. iPhone get hotter than this phone.. you probably got a defective phone, mine works flawlessly...
And believe me, use this rom and you'll love it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663
If you want to move to another phone look around go in shops there are many try an iPhone, Blackberry, or another phone. It's your choice no one can make that decision for you.
Ik Desire said:
Why didn't you bring it in for warranty? Freezes and reboots are not normal on an unrooted desire.
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That would be the obvious thing to do, but I am unwilling to have my AMOLED screen replaced with a SLCD one, that's just me.
The phone is defective you guys are right but as explained I don't want the above scenario to occur.
TBH, the only reason one I metioned iPhone is because it has all the features I want 'Front face camera' etc besides the Signal Problem, I can jailbreak/mod the phone to my desire and needs.
Deeco7 said:
That would be the obvious thing to do, but I am unwilling to have my AMOLED screen replaced with a SLCD one, that's just me.
The phone is defective you guys are right but as explained I don't want the above scenario to occur.
TBH, the only reason one I metioned iPhone is because it has all the features I want 'Front face camera' etc besides the Signal Problem, I can jailbreak/mod the phone to my desire and needs.
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But you're not willing to root your Desire and flash a custom ROM?
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But you're not willing to root your Desire and flash a custom ROM?
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Like I mentioned above, I had rooted it but I consider flashing to a Custom ROM will make no difference whatsoever as my device is fault and unwilling to deliver to HTC under warranty due to screen replacement.
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Like I mentioned above, I had rooted it but I consider flashing to a Custom ROM will make no difference whatsoever as my device is fault and unwilling to deliver to HTC under warranty due to screen replacement.
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so, you're looking for an excuse to buy an iPhone, or you are making yourself a martir? You dont want to try a custom ROM, but dont want to change the phone neither... so what's the point of this thread?
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But you're not willing to root your Desire and flash a custom ROM?
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Good point. I'd rather be with an Android OS than iOS, but with that said I'm not going to go over the rigmarole of an Android Vs iOS Vs WP7 'discussion'.
If it was my phone I'd take the time to atleast root it and get Clockwork recovery installed and try a light Sense-based ROM to see if it is defective hardware or not.
What's even more simple than that is resetting the phone to factory defaults to see if the problems persist, have you given that a go?
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so, you're looking for an excuse to buy an iPhone, or you are making yourself a martir? You dont want to try a custom ROM, but dont want to change the phone neither... so what's the point of this thread?
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Look, I'm not sure if I have phrased it wrong or something, but using a custom rom hadn't made any difference.
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Look, I'm not sure if I have phrased it wrong or something, but using a custom rom hadn't made any difference.
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Aye you did, if it still persists you've got a duff phone. Warranty is the best bet, get them to replace it, then stick with it or try another phone. As it's pointless using a defective device, it'd drive me up the wall.
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... so what's the point of this thread?
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Exactly, so you've got a defective phone but won't RMA it, purely on the basis you'll get an LCD screen instead? Madness... Those early AMOLEDS are nothing to write home about too.
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Look, I'm not sure if I have phrased it wrong or something, but using a custom rom hadn't made any difference.
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I thought you didnt tried a custom ROM, my bad. Well, send it to repair, and then sell it in ebay and get an AMOLED one. If you're insterested, and if you live in USA, I got the A8181 version, and I want the A8183 (WCDMA 850), and I dont care to get a SLCD screen.
The SLCD's are actually more vibrant in colour, although I'd say the AMOLEDs are more efficient.
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The SLCD's are actually more vibrant in colour, although I'd say the AMOLEDs are more efficient.
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Yet again, I have mentioned that I don't want to sacrifice my AMOLED screen for SLCD as I the AMOLED is what I payed for and is better in comparison. The Desire battery is bad as it is and adding SLCD will not do anygood.
I don't want to drift into that, a back to my first post.
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Yet again, I have mentioned that I don't want to sacrifice my AMOLED screen for SLCD as I the AMOLED is what I payed for and is better in comparison. The Desire battery is bad as it is and adding SLCD will not do anygood.
I don't want to drift into that, a back to my first post.
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Considering you are asking people for help, you are being very short and sharp with people and really aren't being too polite. That was a statement, I was retorting generally to sarge78's post about screens.
Hello everyone,
I have just bought a Droid Incredible off of ebay. The seller said it was in mint condition and that there were no problems at all. When it arrived, it was in perfect condition. However, upon activating the phone, it would not stay on for more than 10 minutes. It just keeps rebooting itself. Also, while it is up, it does not always maintain a signal, and then it usually reboots a couple minutes after that.
It is not rooted, all of it is stock. I have been trying to find an answer for this problem all over the internet but to no avail.
I have read that where this phone is from (North Carolina) there was a lot of people with the same problem as this one.
It is the amoled version, hboot .92 and the baseband is the most recent at 2.15.00.7.28
I have tried factory resets, battery pulls, new battery, reflashing the RUU. I am at a complete loss.
Any help would be great, because I want to love this phone. I am sick of my slow Eris and this was my solution.
Thanks so much in advanced.
After some troubleshooting, I have noticed that it only occurs when the 3G service is turned on.
Any thoughts?
Have you tried a different radio?
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I'm not sure what the problem is. FYI, that's not a bootloop. A bootloop is when the phone continuously boots, but never all the way to be usable, such as to the quietly brilliant screen and then starts again.
Also, I would bring it in to Verizon. See if they'll replace it.
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Also, I would bring it in to Verizon. See if they'll replace it.
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I totally agree. If its not rooted and you've had Verizon for a bit they really should help you out. Honestly Verizon has always worked with me and been very helpful.
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I totally agree. If its not rooted and you've had Verizon for a bit they really should help you out. Honestly Verizon has always worked with me and been very helpful.
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The Incredible is EOL. You'll be lucky to find one.
Is the sd fat32?
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nismith8 said:
Have you tried a different radio?
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I tried flashing some of the leaked ones in HBOOT, but they wouldn't load. Can you point me in the direction of where I can find how to properly do this?
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I'm not sure what the problem is. FYI, that's not a bootloop. A bootloop is when the phone continuously boots, but never all the way to be usable, such as to the quietly brilliant screen and then starts again.
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Sorry, I am part retard
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Also, I would bring it in to Verizon. See if they'll replace it.
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I tried, but I bought it from a third party, and they immediately ignored me/ tried to talk me into a thunderbolt. I guess my 10 years of Verizon isn't good enough.
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Is the sd fat32?
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I am 99% sure it is. I'll go reformat it just to make sure
Thanks for all of your suggestions so far guys, I really appreciate it!:wq
Check over on incredibleforums for the radios. Wont let me post the link :/
Try bumping to an older one or the new leaked one. Not sure if those will screw with an amoled tho, can someone else clarify?
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nismith8 said:
Check over on incredibleforums for the radios. Wont let me post the link :/
Try bumping to an older one or the new leaked one. Not sure if those will screw with an amoled tho, can someone else clarify?
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I posted over there too. But actually, I am now starting to rethink that it is the 3G radios. I could've sworn this was a software issue, but it just rebooted on me while I had 3G turned off.
I guess this ebay seller really did lie to me. Well thanks for your help guys, I don't know if I should bother trying to fix this. I guess I should just hope for the seller to respond. Its been almost a week...
Same exact thing is happening to my buddy's phone. I rooted it and put CM7 on it and it was still rebooting.
I had to turn S-ON back on and downgrade back to stock so he can return it to Verizon.
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Same exact thing is happening to my buddy's phone. I rooted it and put CM7 on it and it was still rebooting.
I had to turn S-ON back on and downgrade back to stock so he can return it to Verizon.
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This is exactly what is happening to me right now. It lets me "touch the android to begin," then it reboots. I bought it off ebay and it was an unused cpo. Looks like I'll have to return it. Hey, since I bought it from somebody off ebay, should I worry about turning S-ON and going stock??
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This is exactly what is happening to me right now. It lets me "touch the android to begin," then it reboots. I bought it off ebay and it was an unused cpo. Looks like I'll have to return it. Hey, since I bought it from somebody off ebay, should I worry about turning S-ON and going stock??
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You only have to turn S-ON and go stock if you're returning it to Verizon.
http://www.incredibleforum.com/foru...s/5723-how-get-back-complete-stock-s-off.html
That's the guide I used. Works perfectly. Order of operations is:
0) make sure sd card is formatted to FAT32
1) check your radio version
2) downgrade radio if necessary
3) flash s-on
4) install RRU through HBOOT
Have you tried other ROMs with other kernals? Just shooting in the dark, here; would hate for you to just be stuck!
rfarrah said:
Have you tried other ROMs with other kernals? Just shooting in the dark, here; would hate for you to just be stuck!
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I can't even successfully root/s-off the phone. It reboots while its being rooted (and not the reboots that are supposed to occur) and it fails.
I have tried everything. I used to be adamant that it was a software issue, but after yesterday, I am beginning to think that it might just be hardware.
Anyone have any experience with getting their money back from ebay/paypal?
But seriously guys, I can't thank you enough for all of your ideas and help. I really appreciate it. Hopefully I can join you guys with the Droid Incredible one day.
PayPal is pretty good about protecting the buyer, as long as it hasn't been too long since the transaction. I would contact the seller and inform him of the problem, then contact PayPal and explain the situation.
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PayPal is pretty good about protecting the buyer, as long as it hasn't been too long since the transaction. I would contact the seller and inform him of the problem, then contact PayPal and explain the situation.
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I've contacted the seller the day I received it, asking for a refund. I then also contacted the seller two days later. A day after that, still not hearing anything, I opened an eBay case. Now eBay tells me I must wait until the 6th to escalate the case any further.
This is such a hassle, I just want my money back. Part of me wants to just get a HTC Flyer and just tether my Eris to it.
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I've contacted the seller the day I received it, asking for a refund. I then also contacted the seller two days later. A day after that, still not hearing anything, I opened an eBay case. Now eBay tells me I must wait until the 6th to escalate the case any further.
This is such a hassle, I just want my money back. Part of me wants to just get a HTC Flyer and just tether my Eris to it.
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My inc did the same thing. After about ten tries I got it to root (mine too rebooted during the process before it was supposed to). But no rom, kernal, or anything else stopped the reboots. My seller said to return it for a full refund.
Ebay is pretty good at taking care of you. Last year I bought a phone and the seller bailed on me. About a week after I opened a case I had a full refund in my paypal account. Good luck!
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Thanks for the words of wisdom. I'll hope for the best. I'll keep you guys posted on what happens. Thanks so much again. I don't know where I would be without this community.
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I am about to go to verizon and get my incredible replaced under a manufacturing defect. I just read on HTC's site that their warranty covers for 12 months... quiet generous.
the power button is stuck "on" all the time.. for example if I battery pull and put it back in it starts powering up without ever pushing the power button. I heard this was a common issue with the older incredibles.
GOOD thing I was rooted cause for now... optical track wake is a lifer saver. If it wasn't for that feature I would have to battery pull or wait for a phone call every time I wanted to use my phone.
Anyways... is it a good idea to use my backup ROMs on my old incredible on my new incredible? Or should I just play it safe and start from scratch?
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If there's a chance that your okld phone is going to be refurbed and sent out as a CLNR, then I'd advise against it. Along with your apps and data, you'll also be cloning the android_ID from the old device onto the new one. Best practice would be to simply restore apps using Titanium.
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Apps and services that utilize the android_ID as an identifier are going to push/pull data from any and all handsets bearing that identifier... something to bear in mind when restoring nandroids across devices.
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From "Nand backup on different phone?"
No is the short answer, device id is different.
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sweet. thanks for the quick reply.
I did this back in my D1 days when the audio went out and I swapped it for a replacement, was it a good idea? probly not. Did I care? nope.
I've had my evo since launch, and have tried the various root methods. Of course, being on the bleeding edge, I managed to erase my wimax keys...would anybody who doesn't use their 4g be willing to give up their keys? I realize this is a shot in the dark, but I just moved to an area with awesome 4g coverage and I'm pissed to discover that I wiped the keys out. Contact me via PM if interested, and we can discuss details.
did the same thing to my first evo. sorry to hear, man. how would you restore the key back into the phone anyhow?
I thought the keys were specific to the phone? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the only way to restore was with a backup from your own device. You don't have a nandroid backup that includes wimax?
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well if i was you, and i had insurance, i would unroot my phone. Mess up the charger port intentionally (extremely easy to do considering im on my 3rd evo from this problem) and take it back, they'll replace it for free and you'll have a brand new refurb to go crazy on lol ...its kinda sneaky but it would probably work..i know i've managed to damage two charger ports before my current evo from just everyday use and have gotten refurbs for free, no questions asked.
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I thought the keys were specific to the phone? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the only way to restore was with a backup from your own device. You don't have a nandroid backup that includes wimax?
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Very correct. The RSA keys are tied to the specific phone. Not transferable.
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Why not try to fix? Check the link in my sig.
Chopper64 said:
I've had my evo since launch, and have tried the various root methods. Of course, being on the bleeding edge, I managed to erase my wimax keys...would anybody who doesn't use their 4g be willing to give up their keys? I realize this is a shot in the dark, but I just moved to an area with awesome 4g coverage and I'm pissed to discover that I wiped the keys out. Contact me via PM if interested, and we can discuss details.
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If your keys are gone, unroot. S-off. Take it in and show them 4g isn't working. They will replace it. Did it to my brothers phone because he cracked his screen.
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Very correct. The RSA keys are tied to the specific phone. Not transferable.
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In what way are they tied to the device? By the way, I come in peace I'm not questioning your knowledge, I'm actually curious since I'm getting my Evo replaced and have an extra set of RSA keys. I thought I'd just give the other one away since the old Evo was damaged beyond repair. Is it tied to the MAC address? Thank you.
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In what way are they tied to the device? By the way, I come in peace I'm not questioning your knowledge, I'm actually curious since I'm getting my Evo replaced and have an extra set of RSA keys. I thought I'd just give the other one away since the old Evo was damaged beyond repair. Is it tied to the MAC address? Thank you.
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You can't just give away your RSA keys. I guess technically you could, but if the other phone uses your old wimax partition, it won't work. The key checker app may show that they're present, but that doesn't mean that they're functional.
I'm not sure exactly how they're tied to the phone, they may be tied through the MAC address. But I do know that the only (proven) way to get them back is to have a backup from the same device. After all of the warnings about backing up wimax I really don't see how anyone loses their RSA keys anymore.
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Just out of curiosity how do you mess up your charger port
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winterstormhaku said:
Just out of curiosity how do you mess up your charger port
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I imagine you have to be a real klutz lol
spyd312 said:
In what way are they tied to the device? By the way, I come in peace I'm not questioning your knowledge, I'm actually curious since I'm getting my Evo replaced and have an extra set of RSA keys. I thought I'd just give the other one away since the old Evo was damaged beyond repair. Is it tied to the MAC address? Thank you.
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Specialized algorithm using the phones serial number. Unbreakable unless you have a few Cray mainframes, or a massive Beowolf Cluster hanging around not doing anything.
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kf2m said:
Specialized algorithm using the phones serial number. Unbreakable unless you have a few Cray mainframes, or a massive Beowolf Cluster hanging around not doing anything.
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Now that you mention it, I've got some old P2 processors with 3D Now...lol just kidding. Thanks for the info dude, that makes perfect sense how it won't be easy to just port it over. I just thought of it because I've read on a few forums from people requesting RSA keys that aren't being used and I thought I can just give it away.
Wow, i'm honestly surprised to still see my thread show up at the top of the list. I figured this would end up buried shortly after posting it.
Here's my story:
I bought my evo the day it was released, played with it for a while, then started looking at rooting after it became available. It's been too long to remeber what exactly I did at the beginning, but things change so fast around here that I think you'll understand. Somewhere in the process of F**king with radio updates, PRI updates, flashing and reflashing and so on and so forth, I managed to overwrite my wimax partition and set myself up with the dreaded wimax MAC of DOOM! Well, since I didn't have 4g in my area, I figured "who cares" and left it go. Then i decided to clean out my computer and deleted most of the "unneeded" nandroid backups since they were old and outdated and I didn't think I needed them. Oops. Now I live in a 4g service area and have discovered that pretty much destroyed any chance of getting 4g working again.
Sooooooooo....I unrooted my phone, took it to the store and told them my 4g was broken. They sent me a refurb and everything's working great now. I would like to thank the community for being supportive and for making everything here possible, but a word of warning to n00bs...read the instructions, read them again, read them once more, and then read them again. And ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS keep your backups.
I don't feel bad about essentially lying and telling them it's the manufacturer's fault. My first evo had dark spots on the screen, and I had to exchange it and never got my $100 rebate. So everything works out in the end.
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Now that you mention it, I've got some old P2 processors with 3D Now...lol just kidding. Thanks for the info dude, that makes perfect sense how it won't be easy to just port it over. I just thought of it because I've read on a few forums from people requesting RSA keys that aren't being used and I thought I can just give it away.
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Rofles... Hope you have several hundred years to crack that... Yeah RSA is the keeper of the keys. Even hTc doesn't have the master key just the console to create them for phones that are in production. Those are very old threads you had to be looking at. Probably about a year ago when the Aug/Sept OTA hit, and a bunch of ppl lost their keys (me included) as well as a few people who used unrevoked to root.
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Rofles... Hope you have several hundred years to crack that... Yeah RSA is the keeper of the keys. Even hTc doesn't have the master key just the console to create them for phones that are in production. Those are very old threads you had to be looking at. Probably about a year ago when the Aug/Sept OTA hit, and a bunch of ppl lost their keys (me included) as well as a few people who used unrevoked to root.
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Well I decided to search the forum for a thread talking about my concern, instead of creating a new one...and on another note, being without my Evo is like a junkie going through withdrawls...1 more day...just 1 more day...
Ive had my baby Evo for 10 months (the best phone Ive had ever) but recently (due to some accidents Im guessing) the touch (digitizer) is sometimes being not responsive, some times it gets all crazy and doesnt work or chooses options without me touching the screen. I tried different roms to see if a rom or app was the problem, but it kept happening. my Q is, if I replace my Evo for a new one at a Sprint Store, will I have a hard time rooting it? Cause Ive heard of ppl replacing theirs and being unable to root or having to do some wierd procedures to get root... any help is appreciated!!
I think that depends in what hboot is sent to you and then I think you have to use htc unlock, you can see if a sprint repair store can replace the screen (i heard it can cost $35 or more,if they'll do it at the closest repair store)
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A new evo will probably come with Android 2.3.3 which means that the only way to root is to use the revolutionary root method. Googling revolutionary root should bring up some guides so you can decide if you think its worth it for you
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ok so if I had to get my phone replaced (I rlly hope not) then I can still root it? also would it be best to have the screen replaced at Sprint or buy it somewhere and replace it myself?
Yes you should still be able to root. a lot of people got stuck unrooted because of the 2.3.3 update but revolutionary root works on that Android version now. And if you have insurance then the sprint store might be the safer way to go. Just make sure you unroot first just in case
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To answer your second question, no, you will have no problems rooting, as any version is rootable with Revolutionary.
However, since your evo is 10 months old, you will not get a brand new one. You will get a refurb.
ok so if I had to get my phone replaced (I rlly hope not) then I can still root it?
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Yes, Revolutionary.io
also would it be best to have the screen replaced at Sprint or buy it somewhere and replace it myself?
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The digitizer and screen are two different parts. If you are having touch problems, thats the digitizer, and can usually be replaced in a sprint store.
sitlet said:
To answer your second question, no, you will have no problems rooting, as any version is rootable with Revolutionary.
However, since your evo is 10 months old, you will not get a brand new one. You will get a refurb.
Yes, Revolutionary.io
The digitizer and screen are two different parts. If you are having touch problems, thats the digitizer, and can usually be replaced in a sprint store.
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ok thanks for clearing dat up, still what do u mean by ill get a refurbished one and not a new one?
The phone won't be brand spanking new. It will be a rebuilt used phone
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The phone won't be brand spanking new. It will be a rebuilt used phone
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Oh ok ok now I get u, ok then thanks to all of u for the quick replies youve all been very helpful
-Rr!cAn 3v0
Sometimes little specs of dust can get under your screen and cause it to go crazy. Maybe it just needs cleaned.
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Sometimes little specs of dust can get under your screen and cause it to go crazy. Maybe it just needs cleaned.
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Wel unless their rlly rlly tiny almost invisible I dnt think dats it cuz I rlly dnt see any dust in there, but still cleaning it is an option, thnx
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