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How to S-Off ?

Hey, I am a complete and utter brain donor when it comes to this whole geek-speak rooting malarky.
Up until last week, the craziest thing I had done to my phone was changed the wallpaper and set a new ringtone from the Zedge app. I've had the phone for a good eight months or so!!
Been wanting to put a custom ROM on my phone for a while and I managed to root my desire last week and got the little Superuser App on my phone. I've been working through the Noobs guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
and I've gotten to the S-off part. And here I really come unstuck. I have attempted to go onto the alpharev website and I have no idea which out of Sense, Oxygen, Data++, Stock, etc I download.
The website itself, I dont even understand how to find out which one I am meant to download. Although, I understand that once I get the right one, its a fairly straightforward process of rejigging something on my laptop to read CDs before the hard drive, and plugging my phone in.
But anyway...is there anyone who can talk slowly and in complete base English so that I can attempt to s-off my phone? Cause I am completely useless.
Cheers!

Download this;
http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
What your looking at is the type of partition table that comes after you have s-off, what u do now is flash the above file to a usb stick using this tutorial;
http://www.miui-au.com/installation/extras/alpharev/
Make sure u have a rooted stock Rom before beginning alpharev does not like data++ or d2w roms this one should be fine;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
Anything u don't understand just reply to thread
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After u have done that u will have s-off, if u want to go further u can flash the cm7 partition table.
Personally I just have s-off stock partition with reflex 2.0.2 with d2w script giving me 1gb of internal storage
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Also, you don't even NEED to s-off and tbh if you're a n00b I wouldn't bother until you actually need it

True u only need it for the new gingerbread roms
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Jonnibravo said:
Download this;
http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
What your looking at is the type of partition table that comes after you have s-off, what u do now is flash the above file to a usb stick using this tutorial;
http://www.miui-au.com/installation/extras/alpharev/
Make sure u have a rooted stock Rom before beginning alpharev does not like data++ or d2w roms this one should be fine;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
Anything u don't understand just reply to thread
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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If you mean on my phone currently I am running my standard stock sense Rom that was on my phone when I got it.
The only thing its been done is rooted it with Unrevoked as per that previous link.
Will get back to you about the rest when I attempt it!

Jonnibravo said:
After u have done that u will have s-off, if u want to go further u can flash the cm7 partition table.
Personally I just have s-off stock partition with reflex 2.0.2 with d2w script giving me 1gb of internal storage
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Genuinely don't have a clue about what one bit of that means.. :/

EddyOS said:
Also, you don't even NEED to s-off and tbh if you're a n00b I wouldn't bother until you actually need it
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So what DO I need s-off for? And if I don't need it why is that guide tellin me to do it?
And chances are il prob want a gingerbread Rom at some point if that's the latest thing..

S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now

But you can just use A2SD or Data2SD, S-OFF isn't needed for that

Why, let him do it as process itself is as straightforward as it gets.
Later on, changing hboot are three simple commands in command prompt he can do whenever he feels to.
EddyOS said:
But you can just use A2SD or Data2SD, S-OFF isn't needed for that
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True, but a2sd with dalvik on internal provided with hboot table manipulation is more efficient than a2sd+ and data2sd scripts.

monkeon said:
S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now
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And what is a partition table? Another new one on me..
Ideally I want to do some cool stuff with my phone, maybe put new splash screens on it that other people have made of course , new roms, get free apps n stuff, n make use of my 16gb SD card..
Its more just I don't properly understand the whole s-off business in that guide, although the rest of t seems straightforwardish

monkeon said:
S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now
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You can also change splash screens and flash unsigned zips through
fastboot - useful if your phone gets screwed up and won't boot to rom or recovery!
I'm in agreement though, I did s-off a few weeks after root.

UberNoobster said:
And what is a partition table? Another new one on me..
Ideally I want to do some cool stuff with my phone, maybe put new splash screens on it that other people have made of course , new roms, get free apps n stuff, n make use of my 16gb SD card..
Its more just I don't properly understand the whole s-off business in that guide, although the rest of t seems straightforwardish
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the internal memory of the phone is 437mb
this memory is divided into different parts: system(for rom etc), cache and data(apps etc)
this is basically the partition table; how much is allocated to what.
some roms need more space than others. some roms handle the cache differently (use sd card for it). people generally want to have more memory for data.
the way the desire is when you buy it gives 250mb to the system and 40 to the cache, leaving 147mb for data
if you use the cm7 table for example (found on alpharev site) you will have 302mb for data and apps. about twice as much as a desire straight out of the box
ok, if you want to change the splash screen you will have to s-off.
free apps can be installed without even rooting i think. making use of the sd card -> put music and movies on there!
on the alpharev site, you dont need to get any of the "data++" "oxygen" etc partition tables to do the s-off part. but you need to s-off to use them!
at the top, the "alpharev 1.8 hboot reflash utility" is what you need at this point
it will be a disc image. when you've downloaded it, burn it as per the guide and follow the video (which i havent watched.. so i cant say if it will be clear). you should now be s-off'ed
if you later want to go for a new partition table, find out what would work best for your rom... Though i think it's best at this point to find out which rom you are going to want for the long term, since wiping the phone and changing the tables and all that sh*t is very tedious.

monkeon said:
the internal memory of the phone is 437mb
this memory is divided into different parts: system(for rom etc), cache and data(apps etc)
this is basically the partition table; how much is allocated to what.
some roms need more space than others. some roms handle the cache differently (use sd card for it). people generally want to have more memory for data.
the way the desire is when you buy it gives 250mb to the system and 40 to the cache, leaving 147mb for data
if you use the cm7 table for example (found on alpharev site) you will have 302mb for data and apps. about twice as much as a desire straight out of the box
ok, if you want to change the splash screen you will have to s-off.
free apps can be installed without even rooting i think. making use of the sd card -> put music and movies on there!
on the alpharev site, you dont need to get any of the "data++" "oxygen" etc partition tables to do the s-off part. but you need to s-off to use them!
at the top, the "alpharev 1.8 hboot reflash utility" is what you need at this point
it will be a disc image. when you've downloaded it, burn it as per the guide and follow the video (which i havent watched.. so i cant say if it will be clear). you should now be s-off'ed
if you later want to go for a new partition table, find out what would work best for your rom... Though i think it's best at this point to find out which rom you are going to want for the long term, since wiping the phone and changing the tables and all that sh*t is very tedious.
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Right, so basically the different partition tables on alpharev site like data++, oxygen, all just mean they will allocate a different amount of mem to your phone depending on what you want?
I've burnt it to the USB but I don't know if its done properly, there's an ALPHA zip file and some other stuff on my USB stick now so how will I know if its right n good to plug my phone in and s-off betc etc?
Btw thanks to all of you for your patience!!

UberNoobster said:
Right, so basically the different partition tables on alpharev site like data++, oxygen, all just mean they will allocate a different amount of mem to your phone depending on what you want?
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Well, to an extent...
Oxygen is a very small rom and uses the SD for cache(?), so you can have the large /data. But using the oxygen partition table for any other rom will result in the rom being too big for /system -> it wont work.
What you should have downloaded and burned will be something.ISO
Its not totally clear on the site, but there is large text near the top; " AlphaRev 1.8 HBOOT reflash utility" click that to get the ISO
The zip files (data++ , cm7 etc) come into play after you've followed the video about s-off
What roms are you looking to try?
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monkeon said:
Well, to an extent...
Oxygen is a very small rom and uses the SD for cache(?), so you can have the large /data. But using the oxygen partition table for any other rom will result in the rom being too big for /system -> it wont work.
What you should have downloaded and burned will be something.ISO
Its not totally clear on the site, but there is large text near the top; " AlphaRev 1.8 HBOOT reflash utility" click that to get the ISO
The zip files (data++ , cm7 etc) come into play after you've followed the video about s-off
What roms are you looking to try?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I downloaded a ISO file and burnt it to USB stick as per the tutorial earlier. What I've now got is am ALPHA file and a couple other files here n there so is that it good to s-off?
Haven't decided on a ROM yet, not looked properly as I thought I could s-off first then pick my ROM whenever I got round to it as the phone would still work normally though it s-offed.

Why don't you listen to more experienced members like EddyOS and just leave it well alone for the time being. Root is more than enough to try different roms and customization/modding.
It is easy to do it once you know what you are doing. BUT, if i was you, i'd just wait a bit till you get more confident with all the custom stuff.
Again, s-off is not a MUST!
What you are asking here is near enough step by step guide of how to do it, which is a clear indicator that you are not ready to do it.
erklat said:
Why, let him do it as process itself is as straightforward as it gets.
Later on, changing hboot are three simple commands in command prompt he can do whenever he feels to.
True, but a2sd with dalvik on internal provided with hboot table manipulation is more efficient than a2sd+ and data2sd scripts.
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Because, if something goes wrong, it's your fault, as you didn't mention something. He obviously couldn't sue you for that, but who needs the blame they don't deserve?
UberNoobster, i'm not saying that you are going to blame anyone if something goes wrong, but to me, if person recommends something, he is vouching for it hence takes responsibility.

I've had my phone rooted for like 8 months and I have yet to S-Off my device.
I really wouldn't recommend it for you if you have no idea what you are doing. Root is a good place to begin and right now you have the ability to customize your phone in many many ways.
Try out a new rom (may I suggest leedroid as a place to start.) Once you have a solid knowledge of the basics, then, and only then, should you make the choice if you should S-off.
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Ok thanks guys, and thank tinky and shaboola.
I see what you guys are saying, only reason I was gonna try to s-off was to get it done and dusted and out the road. But maybe I should leave it..
Do I still need to partition my SD card and take a nandroid back up and all that jazz when putting on a custom Rom, or do I need s-off for those things?
Cheers

Stock/custom Rom+SD Contents!

Hi guys also girls maybe
I am going to use the excuse of being female Haha no excuse for anything i know
After having a "Desire" i was able to root that just so i could use Aps2SD to move my apps. yada yada lol I never had the nerve to attempt to install Custom Rom.
Since that went wrong a couple weeks back i purchased a tada "HTC DHD"
I have been reading my eyes sore for the past week on how too:
1.root the DHD=success Ace Hack Brilliant
2.The Plunge..install Custom Rom.. RCMix3D"LOVE IT" using RomManager.
3. Radios-kernals etc
Now my questiones
Q.1
Having read so much about roms. Am i to believe in the later versions of the Roms.aka RCMix3D v4.0..
Do these already include the suitable radio-kernal etc?
If the latter versions do,does this applie to earlier version?
Q.2
Before i installed RCMix3D i did a rom backup of my stock rom using RomManager.
If for any stupid known reason i needed to revert back to stock. Is it a simple case of restoring the back up? Would this do the radio etc?
Also when it comes up on the backup saying the "date-time"etc can i rename the back up to easely reconise it?
Q.3
As the DHD didnt come with a SDcard i used a 2Gb i had laying about spare.Titchy size i know..
As i have now got a Kingston 32Gb "Size Does Matter "
Is it possible to transfer all the files off the 2Gb card onto my laptop then onto the 32Gb, Then inserting the 32Gb into the DHD with out any problems arrising due to a differant SdCard?
This information maybe on the forum but work is killer so im sorry for appearing lazy
Thanks to every 1 at XDA and the followers for the help in advance..
Regards Nikki

1) all roms come with the kernal. Radios are independent and would be up to you if you wanted to flash it
2) yes on both. You can name it whatever your heart desires. And restoring is as easy as hitting restore in cwr
3) yes

ok thanks. nice quick reply. all i needed to know for now

Hi - on 2), ROM Manager has an option to rename the backups - use that, don't rename it using a File Explorer app.
I'm not 100% sure if it's still the case, but in the past, on older versions of ROM Manager and CWM, if I renamed the backup inside ROM Manager it was fine. If I renamed it manually then it wouldn't restore correctly. Probably something to do with the checksums.
Also, the backup doesn't include the radio. So if you change the radio, and want to revert, you'll need to flash the previous radio back separately.
Hope that helps.

How can I check the radio I am on? On fast boot?
I havnt flashed a different one yet so hope I can make a note of mine.
Thanks
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In Android it's in Settings/About Phone/Software Inforrmation - then the exact screen depends on your ROM version. Look for "Baseband".
In the bootloader/fastboot, it's the 4th line down. Mine says
"Radio-26.14.04.28_M"

Got mine from fastboot.
Radio-26.10.04.03_M
Thanks for the reply.
Is there any other stuff I should note down before delving deeper into roms etc
Thanks
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Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.
The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.
Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.
So I'd say you're fine.

Thanks again for the useful information
I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.
Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?
Thanks..

Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.
If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say
"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
and the hboot version is
HBOOT-0.85.2007
If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.
If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.
If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)
But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.

Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.
I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.
I assume I have DHD lol
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Thanks for the link ) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens
you are a star.

Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more!
BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary.

Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
If you know that is lol.
Or a way I can check.
Thanks
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ndbubbles said:
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
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In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back.
The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.
Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:
DHD:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Inspire 4G:
HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml

Just adding my. 2 cents.
Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)
The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.

Thanks for the input.
I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire )
Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.
Thanks guys.
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Hi.
Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.
How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?
As I thought the roms included them.
I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.
Thanks for any info and help
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Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?
Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?

I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.
Maybe it has not updated the info.
I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.
As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
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Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.
To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity

[Q] Can you use the HTC Bravo(Desire) Alpharev HBOOT on HTC Buzz (Wildfire)?

Hi everyone,
Does anyone know if you can use the the HTC Bravo Alpharev HBOOT on a HTC Buzz/Wildfire?
I want to install Oxygenmod so I would like to be able to resize the partitions.
Thanks

I belive not,but if you have used SEARCH BUTTON you would came up with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
and on alpharev site there is suported devices section:http://alpharev.nl/

Ask yourself this question: Can you take an engine from an aircraft carrier, and stick it into a car?

Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery tool support HTC Buzz, check unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary#supported_devices if you mean the Hboot image no idea probably best to check buzz forums for that.

luxandroid said:
I belive not,but if you have used SEARCH BUTTON you would came up with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
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Actually it's exactly because of that thread that I asked the question.
First of all, that's not a permanent fix. Every time you want to flash a ROM update it reverts to the stock partition sizes (I know that because I've tried) so you have to run the boot patch every time.
However, what is interesting about that method is that the patch files provided are bravo-boot-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip and bravo-recovery-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip Spot the catch? Basically, they're the same files you use to resize the partitions on a HTC Desire which is also known as Bravo! Hence, I was thinking that if the same patch file works on both devices then maybe the HBOOT is the same on both devices !? And that kind of makes sense because in terms of hardware the Wildfire is simply a stripped down version of the Desire - remember that the Wildfire came out after the Desire and was ment to be a cheaper option of the same thing. Also, the internal memory of both devices (at least the bit where the system, cache and data partitions go) is the same size, i.e. 512MB. So, in simple terms it may just work!
Yet, I was wondering if anyone else has tried that before because I really wouldn't want to brick my girlfriend's phone... She would definitely kill me!
Anyway, thanks for the response and if I decide to give it a go I'll let you know what was the result.
And by the way, I've now moved this question to the HTC Wildfire part of the forum.

bortak said:
Ask yourself this question: Can you take an engine from an aircraft carrier, and stick it into a car?
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Actually the difference is not quite that big...
In terms of hardware the Wildfire is simply a stripped down version of the Desire - remember that the Wildfire came out after the Desire and was meant to be a cheaper option of the same thing. Also, the internal memory of both devices (at least the bit where the system, cache and data partitions go) is the same size, i.e. 512MB. So, in simple terms it may just work!
In very simple terms it's a bit like installing the HDD with the boot sector and partitions from a system with an Intel i7 onto a system with a Pentium 1 - will that work? It will sure do!

[Q] Can you use the Alpharev HBOOT for Desire on a HTC Buzz/Wildfire?

Hi everyone,
Does anyone know if you can use the Alpharev HBOOT for Desire on a HTC Buzz/Wildfire?
Thanks

1. No. You'll posibly brick it.
2. You can use AlphaRevX/Revolutionary

I was wondering about the Alpharev HBOOT because I wanted to resize the partitions and install the Wildfire port of OxygeN which only needs about 100MB for the system.
I've found this method to resize the partitions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340 but it's not a permanent fix. Every time you want to flash a ROM update it reverts to the stock partition sizes (I know that because I've tried) so you have to run the boot patch every time.
However, what is interesting about that method is that the patch files provided are bravo-boot-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip and bravo-recovery-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip ... Spot the catch? Basically, they're the same files you use to resize the partitions on a HTC Desire which is also known as Bravo! Hence, I was thinking that if the same patch file works on both devices then maybe the HBOOT is the same on both devices !? And that kind of makes sense because in terms of hardware the Wildfire is simply a stripped down version of the Desire - remember that the Wildfire came out after the Desire and was ment to be a cheaper option of the same thing. Also, the internal memory of both devices (at least the bit where the system, cache and data partitions go) is the same size, i.e. 512MB. So, in simple terms it may just work!
Yet, I was wondering if anyone else has tried that before because I really wouldn't want to brick my girlfriend's phone... She would definitely kill me!
Anyway, thanks for the response and if I decide to give it a go I'll let you know what was the result.

I wouldn't try the HBoot's, to be honest. Yes, the attachments on that thread are lifted from the Bravo thread, as is (I mention it in the OP), but, they only modify the CWM Recovery, unlike the HBoot, which contains boot info as well.
Anyway, if you are feeling brave, bravo (See what I did there? ), but, as I said, I wouldn't.

3xeno said:
I wouldn't try the HBoot's, to be honest. Yes, the attachments on that thread are lifted from the Bravo thread, as is (I mention it in the OP), but, they only modify the CWM Recovery, unlike the HBoot, which contains boot info as well.
Anyway, if you are feeling brave, bravo (See what I did there? ), but, as I said, I wouldn't.
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Ok... well, then maybe I won't try after all...

CDMA Users WILL BRICK their device with Alpharev HBOOTS

I'm writing this as we are seeing a lot of this going on.
CDMA users, please be aware that the Alpharev Hboots (CM7r2, Data++ etc) are not for you. These are for the GSM desire.
Flashing one of these hboots may well BRICK YOUR PHONE so please do not do it.
If you do do it, it may be your only chance is to flash your RUU. if the Hboot version in your RUU is lower than what you now have, You may even need to flash the downgrade.img from the alpharev website.
Good Luck!!!

Correct. I learned this the hard way, took me a while to find my phone's specific RUU (US Cellular) because it wasn't in the RUU post in the Development section.
I ended up running the RUU three times (out of desperation) before it finally took (it would hang at 68% or something and quit...over and over).
Step 1: find your phone's RUU.
Step 2: flash the downgrade.img from Alpharev
Step 3: run the RUU over and over again until it works.
I PMed the guy that wrote the RUU sticky with a link to where I got mine, so he could add it, but he never did.

If you still have the link, you could click the report button in the post and ask a moderator to edit the post to include it...

Hey, sorry I left this phone and haven't checked back in on the forum for a while. The link I downloaded my RUU from is down now.
I can upload the file to Dropbox and PM you a private link if you want to download and rehost it, if you think it's worth the trouble.

i'm not sure about this link to be the right RUU for USCC http://www.htc.com/us/support/desire-uscellular/downloads/

So I have a CDMA Desire from US Cell, and I was considering flashing the Cool ICS v2 Bravo. But nowhere on the cooldevs/coolroms website does it mention anything about alpharev. The only thing I noticed, and it's the reason I'm even making this reply, is because the description mentioned "Data++" (Cool IceCream Sense v2|Android 2.3.4|FAST|STABLE|DATA++/STOCK|)
And so I wanted to confirm that if I tried flashing this ROM to my Desire CDMA, it wouldn't brick.

I have a GSM Desire, but one of my friends has a CDMA one and wanted to know about flashing an Alpharev Hboot, so I'll tell him not to do it, thanks

Why does it brick CDMA

Oh my God, such a tough question. We should write Hawking, maybe he's got an answer! Oh wait... could it be because the CDMA Desire and the GSM one have somewhat different hardware thus they have different software also?

I found this out the hard way myself. It's a legitimate question however, because alot of us have/had no idea how much different the CDMA and GSM Desire's are aside from the technology.

TVTV said:
Oh my God, such a tough question. We should write Hawking, maybe he's got an answer! Oh wait... could it be because the CDMA Desire and the GSM one have somewhat different hardware thus they have different software also?
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Youre such an ass you know that?
I asked a REAL question, and youre a jerk about it?
Watch how many low rating you get on this site.
See you around, jerk.

Somebody has already done that and his desire cdma is bricked. I think you should try it if you want to know the reason about this warning thread.
If you have desire cdma and want to change your partition to be alpharev hboot cm7r2 for example, you can use firerat cmtd for your safety. Same destination, different path.
Firerat's CustomMTD link is in my complete signature.
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA using Tapatalk

faille13 said:
Youre such an ass you know that?
I asked a REAL question, and youre a jerk about it? [...]
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Right, and what kind of an answer did you expect to your "real" question? Should we have attached detailed engineering schematics detailing the differences between the two devices and maybe some 1000 page documentation on the matter? The answer is as easy as simple logic: GSM and CDMA are different enough that the GSM HBOOTS won't work an the CDMA model.

I'm sure he expected an explanatory answer, just as I did. It didn't have to be completely detailed, but a short explanation is better than none. I am not a hardcore dev but still want to have the most out of my machine, so that's why I have CM7 on it instead of Sense now. The benefits of the CM7/r2 Hboot look great, but no where did it say not to use it on CDMA, except for one thread I found where it was buried. I bricked mine 3 times before I gave up on the Hboot. Anyways, give us CDMA Desire folks a chance. We just want to understand whats up.

grillheadxl said:
The benefits of the CM7/r2 Hboot look great, but no where did it say not to use it on CDMA, except for one thread I found where it was buried.
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The Alpharev site clearly states that their HBOOTs only work with GSM phones.
alpharev.nl said:
Warning: Make sure you have read all the warnings below before attempting to run this utility!
Supported devices:
HTC Desire GSM (Bravo), all hardware models (PVT4 too)
HTC Legend GSM, HBOOT 1.0+ is NOT supported
HTC myTouch 3G Slide (Espresso)
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I believe there are few people here knowledgeable enough to give a detailed (engineer-level) explanation as to why GSM HBOOTs don't work with CDMA units.

I completely botched that when I read it and didn't think about the GSM thing. I stand corrected.

Quick question. I just got a CDMA Desire and I plan to flash BCM ICS on it, which I understand supports the CDMA Desire. But the BCM post also says that the ROM needs 180mb on the /system partition and recommends using AlphaRev Data++. If that's not an option for the CDMA Desire, what hboot should I use for BCM? Will Revolutionary 0.4pre4 provide the partitioning scheme required by BCM?
(BTW, if it matters, I originally had an N1 and loved it, then switched carriers and ended up on a CDMA Droid X, which was a pain. I'm switching to the Desire hoping it will be similar to me beloved N1, but I'm already seeing the major differences!)

theophile2 said:
Quick question. I just got a CDMA Desire and I plan to flash BCM ICS on it, which I understand supports the CDMA Desir- CDMA Desire, what hboot should I use for BCM? Will Revolutionary 0.4pre4 provide the partitioning scheme required by BCM?
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You can try firerat's cmtd to make custom partition for your bravoc. You can see the link in my signature.
Sent from my HTC Desire CDMA

theophile2 said:
Quick question. I just got a CDMA Desire and I plan to flash BCM ICS on it, which I understand supports the CDMA Desire. But the BCM post also says that the ROM needs 180mb on the /system partition and recommends using AlphaRev Data++. If that's not an option for the CDMA Desire, what hboot should I use for BCM? Will Revolutionary 0.4pre4 provide the partitioning scheme required by BCM?
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Revolutionary works fine for BCM. If you need more space for apps, CMTD is a good start, but you'll probably be better off with m2sd.
Don't partition your sd/ext in Revolutionary/CWM- Minitool will work from a PC though.

Thank you very much, this is very useful information for desire cdma user. And save our device from brick.