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Just had a situation occur that is having me seriously question our build quality...

I was sitting at my desk at work, and I went to get up and go to lunch. I didn't realize my phone was on my lap, but when I got up my phone fell out of my lap, and on to the carpet. The back came off and the battery came out ("big deal", I thought, since every other time I dropped a phone [not often], the battery came out). I get the battery, get the back, and go to grab the phone, when I realized that the front is basically shattered.
The phone didn't fall more than 3 feet onto carpeted floor, and I was just in awe at that. I still am. Fortunately, Sprint is going to replace it because I have insurance, and apparently there is no deductible which is nice. My EVO hasn't given me any problems though and I see about others who seem to and I hope that the refurb unit lasts longer than this one did. I might also be investing in an Otterbox or something.
Here's a pic of the carnage:
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I dropped my phone onto the street when I was getting out of my car. It was from about 3-4' high. I bobbled it as a stood up and watched it crash face down to the ground in what appeared to be slow motion. Picked the phone up off the ground and it only had a few scratches on the corners. I thought for sure the screen would be cracked. I peeled off the screen protector when I got home, and not a single scratch on the screen. I don't use a case for the phone.
I guess my point to the story is that it could just be I was lucky, and you got unlucky. After my incident, I feel pretty confident in the HTC build quality.

Forgot to mention; sucks what happened to your phone. Good thing for insurance.

ckombo said:
Forgot to mention; sucks what happened to your phone. Good thing for insurance.
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Thanks.
Yeah I dropped mine onto the wood floor at my house from a similar height as what happened today and nothing really happened, so that's why I was shocked. I dropped my Pre probably 4 or 5 times when I had it and nothing at all happened to it. The Pre was a tank for me, which is surprising since pretty much everyone else who had it complained bigtime about the build quality of it.
I'm debating on whether or not I should unroot my phone before I bring it back on Monday. The person at the store didn't even turn the screen on when I brought it in and approved it, but I didn't know if some flak would come of it running an (obviously not stock) rooted ROM when it got wherever it's going).
Or maybe they'll just toss it into the trash.

with the new what insurance is set up they should be able to fix your screen and hand it back to you IF its just the screen damaged

They'll actually just replace the screen for you at a repair center, instead ordering a refurb.
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Could also be that the screen is or works like tempered/safety glass. You can take a ball peen hammer to the center of a sheet of safety glass with little to no affect. But take the same hammer and strike the edge of the glass and the sheet will crumble like the Yankees in a playoff game.
If your EVO landed on its side when it fell, that could be the cause. It's happened in my office many times with people's iPhones. I find that my Ghost Armor works well to diffuse the smaller bumps, though mine is covered in a rubberized case 80% of the time as well.
Hopefully you get a good replacement.

jimbobcooterrooter said:
They'll actually just replace the screen for you at a repair center, instead ordering a refurb.
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They already ordered a replacement, it'll be in on Monday.

An Otterbox is a good idea ... it will help in the future.

I've said this from the beginning. All shatters start points occur from the bottom left or right of the phone!

exSD said:
I've said this from the beginning. All shatters start points occur from the bottom left or right of the phone!
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lol yep that it did.

Seriously question build quality? You're kidding, right? ANY glass will shatter when dropped, period. This has nothing to do with build quality. Would you prefer it to be plastic and have a million scratches on the screen?
Now if you were to complain about the screen separation issues, THAT would be a build quality issue. But NO phone is perfect.

I've dropped my phone dozens of times, many from 3 ft, others from 5 ft, I do have a black rubber case on it that only says htc on the back that I picked up on launch day. so far its never came apart or scratched or anything happened that would make it less than mint. I'm impressed with it and honestly don't see a way to destroy the thing unless I wanted to

zeuzinn said:
Seriously question build quality? You're kidding, right? ANY glass will shatter when dropped, period. This has nothing to do with build quality. Would you prefer it to be plastic and have a million scratches on the screen?
Now if you were to complain about the screen separation issues, THAT would be a build quality issue. But NO phone is perfect.
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Drop glass from 3 ft onto carpet, and see how often it breaks. I venture to guess it'll almost never break. I have never once broken a phone and now my EVO slides off my lap and it shatters. And I have no right to question the quality of it?
Don't get me wrong I love it and can't wait to get another so I can continue to play with it, but seriously.

I guess I fail to see the part where there's a design flaw sounds more like a memory flaw

midaseris said:
I guess I fail to see the part where there's a design flaw sounds more like a memory flaw
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Are screens getting busted to **** from a minor fall a very common occurance?

mrmylanman said:
Are screens getting busted to **** from a minor fall a very common occurance?
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The sample size is rather small but you're 1/1 so I'd venture a guess as to yes. Angle of impact seems to be the common denominator here, a flaw in the design there is not. $10 says you don't leave it on your lap and stand up to go to lunch again...but if you do report back here so we can hear about it again.

Its also possible your screen/glass might have had an imperfection in it as well . I have heard of glass windows in cars shattering with just the slightest of impacts . Granted they are rare , far and few between . Every once in a while the process of making the glass screws up causing weak points in its structure . Its possible this might be the case with yours . Glass was already weak from the manufacturing process and the small fall was enough to cause it to shatter .

I've dropped my phone from my lap getting out of my truck on asphalt. Thought for sure the screen was toast but just a few scuff marks around the plastic edge. second time it fell from waste height on concrete and that shattered the screen.
Otterbox offers good protection but I can't get over how HUGE the cases are. I ended up with Pt case. Just something to sheild the edges/corners a little better.

Thats why I'm calling bs the phone had to hit the desk or something you could slam the phone on carpet and not break the glass by the way if your at your desk why is the phone in your lap mobile porn or something
mrmylanman said:
Drop glass from 3 ft onto carpet, and see how often it breaks. I venture to guess it'll almost never break. I have never once broken a phone and now my EVO slides off my lap and it shatters. And I have no right to question the quality of it?
Don't get me wrong I love it and can't wait to get another so I can continue to play with it, but seriously.
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The Ultimate drop test

Well...had my HOX for about 4 weeks now and finally it happened. I managed to drop my phone out the window.
It's the second time I've done it with a phone. The first was my HTC Sensation, which also took the plunge from the same height onto concrete and amazingly, was fine. Well...this time was the HOX.
Like many do, I was playing with my phone at the window, the sun was out, clouds were minimal and the breeze was gentle...before i knew it, my phone somehow, jumped out of my hands. I stood helplessly as I saw the phone fall out the window in slow motion, slow enough to give me time to think about about jumping after it and also about whether it would be worth it and then coming to the conclusion it wouldn't, regardless of how much i need my phone. As i stood there in shock, I saw the phone fall to it's death, hitting the concrete hard on a corner which then put it into a death spin of what would inevitably end the phone's life if the fall hadn't already.
Once the phone came to rest, I grabbed my keys and took a slow walk down the stairs, there was no rush as i was sure my phone was now a paperweight.
I saw the phone, face down, picked it up, turned it on with little hope of it working and BANG!!! it works, wohooo, nothing wrong with the screen or the touch function. A but of a bang on the side but I see that as character building.
so you can all rest assured now, the phone can happily fall from a height of a second floor (3rd floor if you're american)fall.
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Lol I love the way you described it, should write a book!
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wow, that is a testimony on how strong the polycarbonat unibody is

endursa said:
wow, that is a testimony on how strong the polycarbonat unibody is
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I'm really surprised about it, there's a big bump on one of the corners, and a small one on another corner but that's it, it even slid on the concrete abour 75cm, face down and there's not a scratch on the screen.
I was thinking about heading the SGS3 route, but might keep this now since it can survive such a fall...i'm sure any other smart phone would've met their demise over much shorter heights of fall. The Iphone4 would definitely not survive such a collision with destiny.

One lucky bast..d
Its all I can say lol!

Just sand it down a bit and it's good as new. You're lucky it dropped on a corner.

I think I would have had a heart attack. Even when I put my HOX on my pocket I put it very slowly so it won´t get scratched against the belt surface or some other protuberance (which happened to once when I had the GS1). I will only rest when my protective case arrives.

You had two phones that tried to kill themselves? Listen to me, buy a case for any other phone you own.
I am utterly impressed, regardless on which side the phone landed on.

All o can tell u that u r lucky indeed HOX all da way
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Wow, you are lucky. Mine fell 2 ft and the screen cracked..
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wow that's amazing
i bet a bit of special sandpaper may help to disguise the mark on the plastic

I don't think there is many other phones that would survive that fall, another unibody phone might depending on the material used.
Good thing about polycarbonate though is its strength, but then that's why its used for crash helmets.

If he had fallen on the front or the back shell, you would have had to pick it up with a little spoon. So you should consider your self very lucky.

Luck of the draw.
I've seen experiments on why toast always lands butter side down on the floor. Essentially, its size and the height of a table will do that. If tables were 3m high, or toast was 10cm across, or 1m across, butter side up.
If your phone hits the deck screen side down, it's toast. Any phone.
Luck of the draw (from pocket) really.

yea guys, spread the world and let them know the true awesomeness of HTC One X I love the phone TBH!
Submit Threat as News Tip all the wayyyy!

that is awesome, and i disagree with others saying its "toast" if screen hits floor, use this for example http://www.appledaily.com.tw/appledaily/article/headline/20120528/34259363/ ... the guy hammers a nail into wood with the screen !!!!

@Barff1984
Dude that's amazing! ! Also I have the same battery charger as you!
Are you just running it normally or have you made any modifications to the unit or cable?
As you may know it only charges USB mode and not ac mode which is slower.

so many phones lost.... other stolen... other drops...
you are a very unlucky dude.... hows the love in you life ehehehehe

LaneyEFC said:
that is awesome, and i disagree with others saying its "toast" if screen hits floor, use this for example http://www.appledaily.com.tw/appledaily/article/headline/20120528/34259363/ ... the guy hammers a nail into wood with the screen !!!!
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You are most welcome to disagree. I'm sure there are others with broken screens from a 1m drop who will not share your view.

LaneyEFC said:
that is awesome, and i disagree with others saying its "toast" if screen hits floor, use this for example http://www.appledaily.com.tw/appledaily/article/headline/20120528/34259363/ ... the guy hammers a nail into wood with the screen !!!!
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I guess i can get rid of my hammer now, (this is a true multi purpose device) lol

one x fallen from work desk on floor on its screen.. Risk?

My one x fallen today from my desk on a wooden floor right on its screen...
Is it built to avoid internal damage from such crashes?

Yeah, it'll be fine... Biggest worry is always the screen smashing.

I would assume that if the screen is fine, then the internals are fine. There are not many moving parts appart from the vibrator so it should be fine
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BenPope said:
Yeah, it'll be fine... Biggest worry is always the screen smashing.
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Well screen perfectly handled it ^_^ physically internal build you say well sheilded from such things?
One more thing i noticed and unsure if i had it before.... The top of the screen got such like cut artifact like part of the picture cuts (like in bad frame sync games on pc) delay behind.... im on paranoid rom jb with custom kernel tripndtoid which i installed few hours ago....could it be the gpu drivere in this kernel?

There's a video on Youtube of a guy doing a drop test. He basically drops it from various heights onto concrete. Although the screen eventually cracks from a face down hit, it continues to work fine. I wouldn't be too worried

So no worries from drop .... Thanms
graphical artifacts (while sliding the top side of the screen was like cutting it self) its gone now after installined re-packed faux.

Dont worry about it. I have opened my HOX several times and things are pretty tight inside.

Garoto1973 said:
Dont worry about it. I have opened my HOX several times and things are pretty tight inside.
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Good to know.... the press guy at HTC i think mentioned that they built ONE X to be "hard to break" phone... and used some special plastic which knows to avoid stress and internal damages... but hopefully this engineering also smart to avoid internal damages when it falls right on the face (screen) hehe... think so?

Whenever someone mentions possible damage to their one x, it makes me cringe! Hope its all good for you
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Like others have said, if the screen is fine then internals should be fine too. The biggest risk of dropping the One X is breaking its' screen. That is why I use a thin TPU case, with a small lip around the bezel which prevents the screen touching any flat surfaces. It should protect the screen from small drops. And I also don’t have to worry much about placing it face down on a hard surface. Unless you are one of those people who absolutely hate having a case, I highly recommend using one.
The case I use looks pretty decent, better than most other TPU cases out there. The texture on it's back closely resembles the feel and look of the polycarbonate back. It also prevents the camera lens touching the table when rested on its' back. Here are couple of photos of it:
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I have dropped many time and last know drop is at function while speaking with ma friends . Hox got scratched and nothing happened . Highest drop is 5 feet when taking snap.
No worries . Phone made for droppers.
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PhoenixFx said:
Like others have said, if the screen is fine then internals should be fine too. The biggest risk of dropping the One X is breaking its' screen. That is why I use a thin TPU case, with a small lip around the bezel which prevents the screen touching any flat surfaces. It should protect the screen from small drops. And I also don’t have to worry much about placing it face down on a hard surface. Unless you are one of those people who absolutely hate having a case, I highly recommend using one.
The case I use looks pretty decent, better than most other TPU cases out there. The texture on it's back closely resembles the feel and look of the polycarbonate back. It also prevents the camera lens touching the table when rested on its' back. Here are couple of photos of it:
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impressive response! my case came free with one x...very simple and stupid case lol.... Ebay here I come!!!
But an issue find in my case and your case also..the TOP of the phone... lip seems really small and almost at same level as the glass...is it?

just ordered two of these:
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180959616738
one of them should do it's job right hehe

Garoto1973 said:
Dont worry about it. I have opened my HOX several times and things are pretty tight inside.
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You right guy to ask this lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30852366
your comment will be appreciated!

Once a HOX is dropped face down it will trigger an internal self destruct mechanism and will burst in flames in exactly 72 hours.

maxilick said:
Once a HOX is dropped face down it will trigger an internal self destruct mechanism and will burst in flames in exactly 72 hours.
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Damn!!! I should stay away from it to not get hurt?

WATERPROOF Obex case review

There is nothing to hide when I say lifeproof was my favorite case for the iphone and let me wondering ..when the heck are we gonna get some love??
Seidio did it with the OBEX . Its awesome to be able to put your phone under water!!! I cant get over it haha
enjoy
http://youtu.be/dddsu8jCaJk

Looks good. Good review. I think I'll wait for life proof to decide if I want this or that.
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the 1meter limit kills it. lifeproof will be 2 meters.
I want a case even if larger designed to be opened often with NO PORTS so it can go deeper. I would like 30ft. thats deep enough you can dive down a little snorkeling and if you drop it in shallows its not likely to go deep enough to crush.

It is actually a 2.3 meter submerge for 30 minutes but contstant 1 meter down.

ahh thats not so bad then. not like typical user will stay under that long anyway

nerys71 said:
ahh thats not so bad then. not like typical user will stay under that long anyway
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He he exactly. The way I see it even if u are in a pool floating and chilling the phone will most likely be in your pocket and that will def be less than 2 meters
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true true. but the issue is what happens when it falls out of your pocket
does it float?

nerys71 said:
true true. but the issue is what happens when it falls out of your pocket
does it float?
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Unfortunately, it doesn't float....I let my daughter play with it in the tub, sank to the bottom.

So I finally got my review finished and thought I'd share my opinions on it.
No doubt this is a beast of a case but its not perfect by any means. I've dropped it twice from about 4 feet in height with no visible damage as well as done a few underwater trials one of which was letting my one and half year old daughter play with it while she took a bath. Held up like a champ and build quality is top notch. The case is bulky but not unusable by any means, takes a few seconds getting used to it and after that you're home free. It pockets very nicely in my jeans but I can see it being a problem for people with skinny jeans.
The screen sensitivity goes down with the screen guard and tends to jerk every once in a while so I had to disable pattern unlock and stop using the swype-like feature in the keyboard I use but I'm still able to scroll through webpages and pinch to zoom in pictures pretty well. Call quality seemed great on the receiving end but on my end it was a bit muffled. Same thing happened when listening to music but something that helped was making sure the speaker volume wasn't at full 100%. It can't be completely avoided considering the sound has to travel through a water tight chamber so in my eyes its a decent trade off.
The latch that exposes the power port stopper could be a little less hard to open imo and I definitely put my nails through a bit of pain and bruising after opening it time and time again. Hard buttons worked flawlessly but the capacitive buttons took some getting used to with the lip at the bottom of the case. Overall I would recommend you add it to your arsenal and even if its not your daily driver its good to have for those family outings or outdoor adventures.
I wrote a very detailed review found here: http://bitly.com/RuocXP
Video review and unboxing found here: http://youtu.be/JdHwZa6u-Ac
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Mine was delivered yesterday. I like the case a lot however, as noted, there is room for improvement.
My biggest complaint is that the main body of the case slides easily on hard surfaces since it's is made of hard plastic. It doesn't grip to the surface if placed face up and can easily slide off an end table or night stand if bumped. The face section of the case is lightly rubberized so the phone won't slide as easily if placed face down.
My Seidio Extended case for my Thunderbolt had a rubber exterior with a skeletonized hard plastic cover. Enough of the rubber exterior was exposed to provide some slip resistance. IMO, the Obex could benefit from some exposed rubber areas on the back portion of the case to provide some anti-slip properties.
The positive aspect of the hard cover is that it does slip into my pants pocket easily.

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No floating at all
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Agreed o how slippery it is..If the material was a little more rugged or maybe have some indentations it would be different.
Also, I dont understand a little why is it that big. Between the phone and the case there is room. They could ve made it maybe smaller and keep the phone tighter but on the other hand we are already working with a large device

How does the mic and speakers portion work? Do you have to uncover flaps or something?

Some additional observations.....
The protective screen cover really affects the sensitivity of the touch screen. Using the phone is starting to frustrate me.
The screen 'jumps' a lot and registers touches when I don't intend to touch. Additionally, getting the back button to register is hit and miss.
I guess for $80 I'm stuck with dealing with this, however, the water & drop protection are more important to me, at least for now with winter weather approaching.
Consider if the reduced screen sensitivity is worth it to you before you spend the $$$ on this case.

burntrat said:
How does the mic and speakers portion work? Do you have to uncover flaps or something?
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nope. those are protector by a membrane. So sound goes out but nothing goes in.
the ports u need to open are charging and head phones

And a little more to add....
I just got a phone call from Seidio! The rep was gathering feedback on the Obex case. I relayed the observations I made in my previous two posts and he said that he would pass it on to his product development team.
I've never experienced this from a company before! I would suspect that other early adopters will get a call for product feedback as well.
It's nice to see a company reach out to its customers.

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nope. those are protector by a membrane. So sound goes out but nothing goes in.
the ports u need to open are charging and head phones
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is the sound quality affected at all? would music come out muffled/distorted or when i make a call, would i sound like im talking through a shirt or something?

CPTBeaker said:
And a little more to add....
I just got a phone call from Seidio! The rep was gathering feedback on the Obex case. I relayed the observations I made in my previous two posts and he said that he would pass it on to his product development team.
I've never experienced this from a company before! I would suspect that other early adopters will get a call for product feedback as well.
It's nice to see a company reach out to its customers.
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Yeah there's no doubt Seidio customer service is top notch. Glad you got a chance to convey the concerns, who knows maybe some adjustments will be made and they'll send you a replacement. At the very least similar products will improve moving forward

found this on Life Proof Site
http://www.lifeproof.com/shop/us_en/lifeproof-case-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s3
soon to be making it for SGS3

Wow that looks awesome! thanks for the video

OUCH!!! (the phone fell)

It fell when I tried to put Galaxy Tab Plus into my field jacket. I noticed sound cut off suddenly and my Note 2 fell from 1.2 meters.
Even a TPU case and glass screen protector applied, a scuff formed on the left top (it's not visible when case applied). Fortunately, the screen didn't have any damage.
What if I have the phone unprotected?!

mingkee said:
It fell when I tried to put Galaxy Tab Plus into my field jacket. I noticed sound cut off suddenly and my Note 2 fell from 1.2 meters.
Even a TPU case and glass screen protector applied, a scuff formed on the left top (it's not visible when case applied). Fortunately, the screen didn't have any damage.
What if I have the phone unprotected?!
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if you have insurance and if your digitier is damaged then replace a new phone or if only the glass lens is damaged then you can just buy stuff online and repair it yourself...this happened to me and ive had hard time replace glass lens it took me 2 hours with very slow movement and careful process. my heart almost stopped beating when putting on new glass lens cheers at least your phone is fine

Its like dropping an iPad. That **** shatters like crazy..
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
Its like dropping an iPad. That **** shatters like crazy..
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its even fragiler than ipad, just one drop from high distance, everything goes in pieces D

I havent dropped this phone since I got it on Dec 31st...
Not really luck but the size, weight, and my Otterbox Defender case seems to be an undroppable setup! Honestly even when the phone has slipped its just impossible to drop. Last second fingertips on the corner edge of the phone, side hand pinning to body, etc, all have ended in no drops throughout the most unsuspecting moments... or maybe I am just lucky or "? reaction-arily? gifted"
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I've managed to drop my phone with the Defender while putting it back in the holster, unbeknownst to me it tangled with my winter coat (granted, probably not much of a concern in Arizona) and some time later fell out on an elevator's tile floor. Loud thud, but nary a scratch.
It was the first time, and I've had mine since November.

Darkshado said:
I've managed to drop my phone with the Defender while putting it back in the holster, unbeknownst to me it tangled with my winter coat (granted, probably not much of a concern in Arizona) and some time later fell out on an elevator's tile floor. Loud thud, but nary a scratch.
It was the first time, and I've had mine since November.
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Hi darkshado, I have an unlocked t889v from mobilicity, and phone could work under wind and virgin mobile.
However, signal is unstable indoors, asu frequently drops to 1 or 2, or even no service at all. I would like to activate lte to take full advantage of the virgin mobile's network. Could you please to forward me a draft guide on how to do it? I know the risk but still want a try....thanks~!
btw, the baseband is T889VVLALJ4, ROM is Jedi 9...

I dropped mine in the toilet (after cleaning the toilet) last week. Without hesitation I reached in and tossed it in the laundry hamper. I yanked the otterbox defender off and started drying it off. Pulled the back off and the battery out. Pulled the s pen out and shoved a qtip in the hole. Remarkably the phone was on and functioning befire I pulled the battery. After I gave everything a good wipe down I blew water from behind the home key, power button and volume rocker. There was also trace amounts in the s pen. Phone still works flawlessly. It didnt even hiccup. Makes one wonder how water resistant this phone is. It was in water for 3 seconds or less and nothing happened.
Noted Twice then replied using SGH-T889.

After careful inspection, a tiny damage found on the top-left of the screen. However, it can be covered with a case and the touchscreen isn't affected at all.
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As odd as it sounds thank the screen protector. I had screen protector on my htc incredible and had it fall from the holster running and watched it endo beside me for a few steps with not screen damage. Only to remove it after switching carriers and getting a new phone to drop it from about 16 inched and crack the screen.
Im thinking about cutting the stock otterbox defender screen protector off and using one that adheres to the screen. This one doesnt sit flush so I get noise from it contacting the screen as I type and also dust and dirt enter from around the home key.
Note 2, yeah son!

I'm on my second note 2. Dropped the first one from about 1.5 feet without a case and goodbye screen. So moral of the story.... could have been much worse.
sent via note 2 in boss mode @ quad core 2 ghz