Hello everyone I need some help deciding if I should get the Photon 4G or the Epic Touch? I really want the Photon but I'm a little worried about the pentile display,the lag and random reboots I've been hearing about. I'm worried about the Epic Touch because of the weak reception, plasticky hardware, and I also don't know if the 4.5 in screen is just too big? What do you all think?
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To be honest, 4.3 in is probably the optimal size. that or 4 inches. I feel that 4.5 probably is a little too large. The superamoled screen is so much better than the photon's though. Speed wise, epic touch. Signal strength of every single radio, photon no doubt. The photon's radio is better than any sprint phones. Build quality, the photon is more sturdy and the touch is obviously thin and more plasticky. Both are great devices in my opinion.
Is the pentile noticeable on the Photon?
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Is the pentile noticeable on the Photon?
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Not unless you look for it.
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Cool. I'm not to sure about a 4.5in screen on the Epic Touch it seems to big.
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Photon is real laggy
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Is the lag a serious issue?
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Is the pentile noticeable on the Photon?
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Yep. It reaches out and smacks you right across the eyes, just like every other pentile display.
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Photon is real laggy
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No it's not. Honestly, I would have stuck with the Photon if the camera had not been so terrible compared to the GS2
I had this same debate also. I was going to get the Photon because of the radio strength but after playing with both in the Sprint store, the SGSII was just faster, brighter, more beautiful display, and I couldn't pass on it. I'm sure the Photon would've been a good choice signal wise from what I hear, but my Sprint service is not so great in my area anyway. Just not sure how much the Photon would've helped. Not to mention the development section here!
You have a 14 trial period take advantage of it. Check them out at a Sprint store and see what you like. Everyone is going to be different. I personally don't find the screen to too big. It is by far the smoothest Android device I have ever used.
I've had both phones.....
The screen on the photon is very good, the qhd resolution makes text and pictures crisper than on the epic touch. However, I love the vivid colors on the samoled+ display and I like the extra real estate so I do prefer the epic touch screen overall. Both phones way better than evo3d and the photon really isn't too far behind the epic touch.
The epic touch is significantly snappier than the photon for general usage and web browsing, I dont do any game so can't comment on that.
Radio, both are good for me, I live in Los Angeles so I have always gotten excellent reception with all my sprint phones. 3g and call performance has been equal. GPS has been much better on the photon. 4g performance noticeably better on photon as well. Wifi equal.
For my needs, I prefer the epic touch. I had the original epic 4g and that phone was a piece of ****. I feel Samsung did a much better job with the epic touch. Fwiw I haven't had LoS yet.
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No reason to get a photon unless its free.
Even my mom with an evo 4g finds the et4g better to hold. Mostly weight+thickness.
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I gave my wife my photon and got the epic touch.
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Which do you think is better? What are the pros and cons of both?
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I haven't used the Photon but I'd argue that 4.5 isn't too big at all. I first got the Epic Touch for my wife who's 5 foot nothing with tiny hands and she loves it. Then I upgraded from my Epic and love the extra screen space. Don't waste your money on a Photon. This phone is amazing! It's by far the fastest Android phone I've seen and the screen is so beautiful, I have a hard time switching to my Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Which do you think is better? What are the pros and cons of both?
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Photon has a really good radio, I got reception in places I didn't use to. The pentile display was only noticeable when was looking for it. It was a solid device. The only lag I had with it was a couple second lag after unlocking the lock screen. Only con when I gave to my wife was that the development was slow but it scenes to have picked up now.
The topic touch ok the other hand has a better screen imo, I like how thin it is even with a case on it. I don't have any reception problems. No los yet (knock on wood). The only problem I've ever had with the epic touch is I can't use youtube on 3g. It works on wifi but not 3g, its been like that for me on stock and calks rom.
In the end its all about what YOU want in a phone. Do you want good reception with a webtop experience it do you want a nice screen with lots of mods to choose from? What ever one mets your needs should be the one you get. Obviously enough for me it was the epic touch. Good luck man.
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Photon's signal strength is better and its speaker is louder. Epic touch is faster and has a better screen(but lower Res) and camera. Remember though if you want to flash custom kernels with a regular cwm recovery on the Photon , unlocking the bootloader breaks 4g. I had both phones. The Photon is a great phone, but the Touch is even better. You can pick up the Photon for less though. My bro got one for 49 at BB, compared to the Touch for 199. Both are cheaper online.
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Epic 4G Touch all the way. No problems with LOS here, and I live next to the Everglades where usually it's 1-2 bars for ALL carriers, yet my texts are always nice and fast, but the 3G speeds are slow here, not in the more urban areas, but again, that's Sprint's fault lol.
I'm not a fan of big phones, but the difference in size of the photon and the Touch is a few mm, the display just takes up a larger part of the screen.
LoS is mostly on rooted devices, so if you plan on running stock like me, you won't have much problem as 9/10 times,a Touch with LoS is rooted and running something other than stock kernel.
And just incase you do get LoS, it's much better than a laggy, random rebooting phone, and there will eventually be a fix.
Plus, battery life is amazing.
And it's $100 at the Target Mobile Store last time I checked, so no brainer.
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Webtop. Nuff said. In a year y'all are gonna have huge mp3 players while I surf the web on my photon . 'Course I'll probably have the latest gadget by then.
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Here is a quick video I made with my friend's galaxy nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEerOPs_Zvg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Nice comparison
I also like that you did the speed test on 4G
By the way I just popped your 1st "Thanks Meter" cherry. LOL..
Thanks, I wanted to show that the speed test app isn't the end all be all of Web performance, so that's why I went to the browser and opened up some websites to show that there isn't a drastic difference.
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Nice to see the E4GT more than hold its own against the Nexus. If my eyes aren't deceiving me, I'd say the E4GT renders graphics more smoothly than the Nexus.
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Here is a quick video I made with my friend's galaxy nexus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEerOPs_Zvg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I like how my E4GT stacked up against the Nexus and I'm happy with my purchase on launch day! I just can't wait to get ICS!
BTW, I like the ending (Director: Enter Your Name Here, etc!)
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Nice to see the E4GT more than hold its own against the Nexus. If my eyes aren't deceiving me, I'd say the E4GT renders graphics more smoothly than the Nexus.
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That because the nexus rendered everything in hd while the e4gt only has to render in 800x480
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That because the nexus rendered everything in hd while the e4gt only has to render in 800x480
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Can't deny the epic touch has a better Soc then the nexus does? Epic touch is a better phone it just sucks we don't get the updates.
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Some people have complained that the ET4G screen has a yellowish tint but it looked whiter than the GN to me but I did watch the video from this phone.
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I don't see a yellowish tint, but I can tell you that we both loaded a promotional samsung video of nature and the nexus screen is brighter and seems to have more colors than our phones.
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This is awesome.
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Whoops, I didn't notice that ending. Ha!
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Some people have complained that the ET4G screen has a yellowish tint but it looked whiter than the GN to me but I did watch the video from this phone.
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there's definitely some sort of color "taint" on the SGS2 screen but you get used to it.. as for the comparison vid, looking at those screens when they had the browser loaded (around the 7:10-8:05 mark espectially), i would definitely say the GN gets the "whitest whites" award. The Epic has sort of a bluish tint.
I would definitely agree, those are the words i was looking for "bluish tint".
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I should have watched the video from this phone in the first place. I like the GN alot but the 4g Speedtest surprised me. I expected it to be double that of Sprint. I get 10Mbps where I am at so the video made me much more at ease about my service. On the other hand, the ping time is impressive. I would love to have one though because if the development is anything like it has been lately on the Nexus S 4g then it will have loads of ROMs. Hell, someone already has a version of ICS from the international SGS2 booting on the NS4G.
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Agreed. I'm pretty much settled that my next device will be a Nexus. I was holding out for the Galaxy Nexus but heard the "verizon only at launch" rumors and grew sick. After comparing the specs from the GS2 and the GN though.. I really believe from a hardware perspective the GS2 is tops (bluish tint aside). The memory card slot is a must have for me and ICS is just around the corner.
Also.. i don't anywhere NEAR 10mb/s in my area on 4g. more like... 3 or 4. :-/
Pretty cool. Thanks for the vid. I can't wait for ics on our phone.
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I was sure that the GN would smoke the E4GT...but it looks like E4GT held it's own. I'll go ahead and hold onto mine until I see something that out performs it a little more impressively. Something weird I saw though. I noticed that the E4GT in that video had some serious response lag when he tapped a link. Mine has never lagged like that....even when stock. Maybe he needed to clear cache/cookies. Lol
BTW, I get 4G download speeds of between 7-11mb....but then again, I do live half a block from a tower.
If it can keep up now imagine when we get ICS
Awsome i still want the epic touch 4g becuase its on the best network and design is beautiful plus ics is around the corner
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So GN & GS2 performance are equal.
GS2 has better battery life , better camera , louder Speaker , memory card slot & GN has better display.
Title says it all. I'm up for upgrade as of right now and I think it's about time to move to a different device.
What do you suggest?
The 2 best looking phones there IMO is the evolution 3d and the epic touch the evo design my cousin and her boyfriend have and they have lot of problems. But if I had to pick I would wait a little longer because the galaxy nexus is coming to sprint if you look on their main page
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If it had to be a now thing.. can't go wrong with the Samsung Galaxy S ll, Epic 4G Touch. However... I am in the same boat (new phone time!), but I am waiting to see what they announce this quarter and the future of LTE.
Dallas, Atlanta, Houston and San Antonio are slated to be the first to go LTE, so if you are in those areas it might behoove you to see what comes out. Right now the Galaxy Nexus and LG Viper are upcoming LTE phones.
I'm leaning toward the Epic 4G Touch as LTE means nothing to me. My area doesn't even have WiMAX (now it never will). And from what I read, the E4GT will get official ICS Q1 2012 anyway. That right there pretty much evens the playing field between the two phones.
Still interested in hearing your opinions though.
Levels the playing field?
What about the fact that Gnex is pure Google without the ugly Twiz UI? And will get regular updates thru Google ?
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Levels the playing field?
What about the fact that Gnex is pure Google without the ugly Twiz UI? And will get regular updates thru Google ?
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Is that "feature" alone enough to justify a probable $100 price premium for the Gnex vs E4GT? For me, it's not.
I say if your not worried about lye e4gt is the way to go or u can join the apple fanboys and get a 4s lol
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Et4g over 3vo any day of the week and photon is a big disappointment had all 3 in my house et4g was the winner still have that crappy photon too lol it sux with its funky bootloader and borking stuff to unlock it the 3vo was a launch day and had crummy radios in it so it got traded for the photon which is a better all around phone than the 3vo just isn't great for flashaholics
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lol jk!
Anyways as of recent new phone I would pick gs2. But I'm holding off until Sprint lte hits my city.
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Epic touch 4G for sure
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wait for lte phone.
I've had so much success with the eVo og that I'd have to go with the eVo 3d.....
Galaxy S2 at the moment, although that new Nexus is coming.....
I've heard nothing but good things about the epic touch but I'm personally trying to hold out for the nexus
Epic 4G Touch has me scared now. All I read about the phone is poor signal and useless GPS. I'm not able to find any recent threads that confirm if this stuff has been fixed or not though. Can anyone help out? Maybe first-hand experience??
Wait for the Galaxy Nexus phone
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Wait for the Galaxy Nexus phone
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I might have to do that. It'll be more than $199 for sure, but hopefully it won't be a hunk of garbage like it sounds like the Epic 4G Touch is.
I moved to the photon. Only phone that has a kickstand now. And reception...I hazzzz it!
My only complaint is pentile display but its no biggie any more.
Rom dev is kinda slow but all quality stuff.
After my experience with a nexus s 4g I am gonna skip sanding as they seem to be having the same issues with the cdma radios on the big V
Good luck either way.
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I'd go with the Galaxy Nexus. Good battery life, nfc chip, and ICS without bloatware.
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I have the E4GT and I do love it to death but I have an upgrade is it worth it to upgrade to the nexus or should I hold out and wait for the galaxy sIII or perhaps the note to come to sprint?
Well no rush then. Just wait for the gs3 or the epic touch 4g Lte or what ever the hell it's going to be called.
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Well no rush then. Just wait for the gs3 or the epic touch 4g Lte or what ever the hell it's going to be called.
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Ya, thats pretty much what I thought. The E4GT is way to close in specs with the Gnexus to throw away an upgrade that could bring me a much more superior phone!
I'd be curious to hear from our recent deserters (hah!) if they've been experiencing the data issues that have been reported and what their overall opinion of the phone is in comparison to the E4GT.
We've heard from Overstew, who went over and came back, and I think his opinion would've been mine as well, but would love to hear from others.
I played with the Galaxy Nexus for 2 days. It is a great phone, but I like my Epic 4G Touch better.
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I just upgraded myself! Its a great upgrade for me at least. I LOVE THE SCREEN, design, and 50 bucks you get with Google wallet. Along with some awesome dev support. This is gonna be an awesome phone for development come jelly bean
I love the nexus....some things are better and some not... Love the resolution of the screen...love that I can put a recovery on it team win recovery and it stays...no matter what kernel I flash...the battery life is similar to what e4gt is getting on ics but the epic touch kills it with gb.... Maybe ics is just not as good battery wise.... Love boot manager as I have aokp, cm9 , miui, and paranoid android all installed.....to me as a flash a holic I love the nexus ....doesn't seem like a bad choice since sprint won't have a quad core any time soon.... to me evo lte and galaxy 3 are just not that much better than epic touch or the nexus to warrant a upgrade
The main thing better for me is the signal strength is much better than my epic touch in low signal areas...
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Went to the sprint store today to play with the nexus and I must say there was either something wrong with the one I was using or that phone is a mess. I got nothing but lock ups and force closes. Could not get into the facial unlock it just kept force closing. What do you guys say, Isolated incident or is that just how that phone is? It did not run nearly as smooth as my E4GT!
I was talking to someone today that has a lot of issues with the nexus even with trying different roms,
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I was talking to someone today that has a lot of issues with the nexus even with trying different roms,
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Thanks for the heads up I was about to waste an upgrade on that thing! The E4GT Is SOOOO much better after what I saw today. I think if I had that nexus I would end up throwing it out a window!
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I love the nexus....some things are better and some not... Love the resolution of the screen...love that I can put a recovery on it team win recovery and it stays...no matter what kernel I flash...the battery life is similar to what e4gt is getting on ics but the epic touch kills it with gb.... Maybe ics is just not as good battery wise.... Love boot manager as I have aokp, cm9 , miui, and paranoid android all installed.....to me as a flash a holic I love the nexus ....doesn't seem like a bad choice since sprint won't have a quad core any time soon.... to me evo lte and galaxy 3 are just not that much better than epic touch or the nexus to warrant a upgrade
The main thing better for me is the signal strength is much better than my epic touch in low signal areas...
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This is why I am still considering it because my ET4G isn't going anywhere. It would be my upgrade to my NS4G. I almost exclusively use my NS4G at work because of the low signal performance on my Epic Touch. I figure if I am going to pay full price for a phone I don't think the GNex, Evo LTE, and S3 wouldn't warrant it. If something truly next level comes along I would consider paying full price at the time. So the question for me is GNex or S3 with my 2nd line upgrade. My friends who upgraded from NS4G to GNex are actually really enjoying it and say the battery isn't as bad as people are saying. They tell me its equal to NS4G which I can pull 5-6 hours of screen time as well. I just know how to set up Sammys. The NS4G is known for bad battery life as well...
I just hope the trouble I saw with that thing was device related and not ICS related. If we get ICS and my phone starts acting like that nexus I may just stick with Gingerbread!
Another thread about this?
I have had a couple fc but that is to be expected as there are a lot of non optimized apps but overall really happy with nexus haven't even picked up epic touch lately....
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Anyone have both or have used both? I'm debating on which one to get. I can get a used sg2 for 200 or a evo design for 300. If I get the sg2 I'm flashing it to boost. But the design just came out and it's 300
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Are you sure the evo design cause thats been out a while the evo lte is the most recent release between the sg2 and evo design definitely the sg2. If you meant the evo 4g lte not sure boost is getting lte service anytime soon thought they were going wimax. Seems a waste to me just my 2 cents.
Evo design is mid tier, like the conquer. Gs2 hands down.
Evo design is single core, but it does GSM for outside the US. GS2 is a damn speed demon (I've owned one) and it's as fast as the newer quad core phones. It will chew up and spit out anything you throw at it. Not to mention it has an amazing camera.
My girl friend has the evo design don't get that phone.
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Evo Design is even worse than the Evo3D! Don't do it. You're saving a few bucks going with the GS2 and a few headaches too..
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Evo Design is a new 4g wimax phone for Boost. Epic Touch(GS2) is by far the better phone. I have mine flashed to boost and it works great!
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My wife has the design, and it's a decent phone-IF, you don't want to do a whole lot to it as there's not much of a community supporting it. Plus with the gs2 being $100 less, shoot it's a no-brainer!
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Yeah true. I'm planning on getting it flashed to boost. I have the Samsung transform ultra now and a epic 4g.
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S2 wins no doubt.
I've had both. I had the Evo Design for 3 weeks and decided to add another line for my daughter. Guess who got the Design and who got the SG2? Give you a hint....my daughter was pis** ed
I currently have both of these phones. Don't ask why, I just do. I got the Evo Design because it was free at the time when I started my contract and I didn't know a lot about phones at the time. The Evo is a good phone for a lower level device, it has a pretty nice and bright screen and I like HTC sense interface better than touchwizz. HOWEVER, I am a recruiter so I do alot of work on my phone on the go. The design could not keep up with the speed I needed as well as the screen size was crippling, but the touch excels in both of those categories by far. I got tired of the small screen and the lagginess of the evo, it felt outdated the second I got it so after two months I went to the sprint store looking for something better. I asked the guy what the best phone he had was and he took me straight to the epic 4g touch. I played with it and fell in love. The screen is huge compared to the design and the dual core processor makes it stupid fast compared to the design. The camera is better, the screen is bigger and more sharp, more applications are supported on it, the battery lasts longer and there is SO MUCH MORE developer support for the epic 4g touch as well. I don't think the design even has it's own section here. Hands down between the two mentioned, the epic 4g touch is a WAY better option for the money. If there are any other questions, feel free to ask.
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there is SO MUCH MORE developer support for the epic 4g touch as well I don't think the design even has it's own section here.
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I've been trying for so long to find reliable info on how to root the evo design, and can't come up with anything!
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I've been trying for so long to find reliable info on how to root the evo design, and can't come up with anything!
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I gave up, I saw that the HERO S is basically the same phone, but all of the threads I found on rooting were sketchy and complicated. Nothing like the "oneclicks" over here. My design stays off in a drawer unused. I use it every once in a while for giggles but that only lasts a few minutes until I have withdraws and start twitching for my touch.
Yeah, same story here...plus I don't understand sense for the life of me-locked bootloaders? S-off? It's all too confusing.
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Hands down sg2. I'm not a fan of touchwiz, but this has been the best phone I've ever had. I'm currently debating between the evo lte and the sg3.
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Does it still have the crappy signal/gps issues? I had it earlier this year and it was frustrating, so just want to see how things have been since then with all the updates and such....
gps sucks. it takes a long time to connect. and i have this issue where the phone fails to connect to 3g when 4g disconnects. super annoying.
get the sgs3 or evo 4g lte.
Umm no. My phone does not have those problems. Running aokp stable 4 with fh13 modem
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Umm no. My phone does not have those problems. Running aokp stable 4 with fh13 modem
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+1 mine doesn't either, of.course I never had LoS when the phone was new either like so many others did.
We are legion, for we are many.
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No GPS problems here. I get a lock in 5 seconds INDOORS and this was on touchwiz, cm9 , and jelky bean
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I don't have GPS problems, but the battery life has been pretty bad with the new ics update. It's no where near the life of gb.
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No GPS or LoS issues here running a stock ff18 Rom fg31 k/m. This phone is sick. :thumbup:
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too many variables to give you a answer lol.. ive hardly ever had any of ur issues but depends on the rom, kernel, modem, your area, and then some.. one thing im sure on is this phone beats any iphone in every way
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Keep the iPhone, easier to sell and retains value. And then buy GS3
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Never had a GPS problem anywhere indoor/outdoor. Even with my slow 3G speeds.
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I still dont know
You guys are all saying its works fine and like a million other people are complaining when I googled it lol. I'm just bored with my iphone 4 and my sister took my evo 3d, So I need something to get my android fix with lol.... no upgrade til december.
Having played with a galaxy s3 in the mall, I'd say go with that. Read that section in the forum to see what issues there are. After going from a 4s to the e4gt, I miss the 4s camera and the better quality sounding audio output. I've had this one for nine months now and the screen burn in is getting on my nerves. Going to pen tile displays was samsung's choice for screen lasting longer and less apt to burning. I didn't notice a screen door effect on the s3 either. Even though the cameras are virtually the same, I can see how having a faster focus helps in certain situations with the s3. Its low light is noisy though like lots have mentioned.
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You guys are all saying its works fine and like a million other people are complaining when I googled it lol. I'm just bored with my iphone 4 and my sister took my evo 3d, So I need something to get my android fix with lol.... no upgrade til december.
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Its the way things goes on in consumer world. More noise is created by people who's stuff is not working. I work for verizon fios and we only hear 5 to 10% customers call in to complain but some might come to wrong conclusion that fios always breaks. Thats how it is. I have had no issues with my e4gt. Love everything about it.
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